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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> Question on MPH and correct gear /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1090086623 Message started by atiger on 07/17/04 at 10:50:23 |
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Title: Question on MPH and correct gear Post by atiger on 07/17/04 at 10:50:23 Will I hurt my transmission by doing 30MPH in city traffic in 2nd gear? I have a 2002 Savage. |
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Title: Re: Question on MPH and correct gear Post by Kropatchek on 07/17/04 at 16:34:23 No, it won't ;D |
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Title: Re: Question on MPH and correct gear Post by PRH111 on 07/17/04 at 21:19:21 It won't *hurt* it...yet a lower rpm (3rd gear) if you are just cruising and don't really need instant power will help the engine to last longer. More rpm = more piston speed = more wear and tear on the cylinder walls and piston rings (not like our low compression low output motor really has to worry much about it...but still). Also you will probably use more gas in 2nd at 30mph than 3rd at 30mph. In the end....its your bike and if you want to ride it that way do it! |
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Title: Re: Question on MPH and correct gear Post by wrench on 07/17/04 at 22:08:36 The LS has such a strong engine that down-shifting on city roads is often optional once you get in 3rd. It won't hurt the engine to plonk along at low revs, just don't lug it low enough to get pinging. Riding around in 2nd @ 30mph is quite unnecessary with this tractor. If you get surging or rough running at low revs, do the plastic spacer and airscrew mod. |
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Title: Re: Question on MPH and correct gear Post by Greg_650 on 07/18/04 at 04:55:04 atiger wrote:
No, it won't really hurt it, but I myself would prefer to be in 3rd or even 4th (on level road and depending on traffic). Mine will even pull along on level road at 35 mph in 5th with a nice thumper tone to it (not lugging)...but mine isn't completely stock either. |
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Title: Re: Question on MPH and correct gear Post by klx650sm2002 on 07/18/04 at 07:18:14 2nd gear at 30mph drops you right on peak torque ideal for overtaking. Clive W |
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Title: Re: Question on MPH and correct gear Post by AL_DOWN_UNDER on 07/18/04 at 14:55:14 SAVAGES HAVE A 94mmBORE AND A 94mm STROKE AND THE CAM CHAIN ADJUSTER IS AT THE BOTTOM ,AND THEY CAN BE VERY HARD ON CAM CHAINS SO ITS BEST TO KEEP THE ENGINE RUNING SMOOTH AND NOT LUMPY OR CHUGGING . 94mm STROKE IS PRETTY LONG . 4 SPEEDS WILL RUN DIFFERENT THAN 5 SPEEDS . SO SMOOTH AND LONG SEEMS TO SUIT IT BEST ;) |
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Title: Re: Question on MPH and correct gear Post by klx650sm2002 on 07/19/04 at 06:27:08 100 by 83 and 7500 red line is what You need. Clive W |
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Title: Re: Question on MPH and correct gear Post by wrench on 07/19/04 at 06:51:57 > 100 by 83 and 7500 red line is what You need. An engine like that with such a short stroke would be anemic unless the redline was much higher. |
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Title: Re: Question on MPH and correct gear Post by klx650sm2002 on 07/19/04 at 07:54:03 I view 83mm as a long stroke, it has 37mm inlet and 32mm exhaust valves, FCR41 carb and a custom made pipe. Grunts from 2500 and revs like a two stroke to the 7500red line. Clive W |
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Title: Re: Question on MPH and correct gear Post by klx650sm2002 on 07/19/04 at 08:20:45 The piston speeds of the two engines at max revs are within 2% of each other. Clive W |
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Title: Re: Question on MPH and correct gear Post by Greg_650 on 07/19/04 at 08:44:03 atiger wrote:
I just checked today (never paid attention before), and the Savage is doing right at 3500 RPMs at 30 MPH in 2nd gear. The Savage also does 3500 RPMs at 50 MPH in 5th gear, so there really shouldn't be any problem with what you ask. |
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Title: Re: Question on MPH and correct gear Post by Greg_650 on 07/19/04 at 08:47:36 AL_DOWN_UNDER wrote:
There is a difference between "can do" and "always do". Mine will do it, but of course to have decent acceleration and pull under load, I don't make a habit of it. |
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Title: Re: Question on MPH and correct gear Post by atiger on 07/19/04 at 09:24:30 Thanks for all your responses. ;D |
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Title: Re: Question on MPH and correct gear Post by Greg_650 on 07/19/04 at 13:26:43 BTW - I checked the tach again, and it seems that "chugging" begins at around 2000 RPMs..... ::) |
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Title: Re: Question on MPH and correct gear Post by atiger on 07/19/04 at 14:00:26 Greg_650 wrote:
Sorry, I'm pretty new. When you say "chugging" is that the same as lugging? |
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Title: Re: Question on MPH and correct gear Post by maria on 07/19/04 at 14:26:10 probably - mine goes chug most definately. If i'm in too high a gear she chugs, i feel it, like as if she's missing but she's not - she sounds like an old tractor. usually go around town in 3rd, sometimes down to second. |
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Title: Re: Question on MPH and correct gear Post by wrench on 07/19/04 at 19:54:26 > > > > SAVAGES HAVE A 94mmBORE AND A 94mm > > > > STROKE > > > 100 by 83 and 7500 red line is what You need. > > An engine like that with such a short stroke would > > be anemic unless the redline was much higher. > I view 83mm as a long stroke, it has 37mm inlet and > 32mm exhaust valves, FCR41 carb and a custom > made pipe. Grunts from 2500 and revs like a two > stroke to the 7500red line. > >The piston speeds of the two engines at max revs are > within 2% of each other. What ARE you smoking? |
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Title: Re: Question on MPH and correct gear Post by Greg_650 on 07/20/04 at 08:54:52 atiger wrote:
Yep ;D |
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Title: Re: Question on MPH and correct gear Post by klx650sm2002 on 07/20/04 at 10:08:09 83mm 7500rpm = 20.75 m/s 94mm 6500rpm = 20.37 m/s If you don't belive me work them out for yourself. Clive W |
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Title: Re: Question on MPH and correct gear Post by Greg_650 on 07/20/04 at 12:12:45 klx650sm2002 wrote:
SO, I guess that you weren't smoking anything :o |
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Title: Re: Question on MPH and correct gear Post by sunny on 07/21/04 at 14:16:19 your comments here about the low end of when to change gears has actually helped me alot. now i change into 5th gear around 50mph and don't worry about changing gears at the higher rates of speed. thanks! |
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Title: Re: Question on MPH and correct gear Post by Greg_650 on 07/21/04 at 14:19:37 sunny wrote:
Yep. You can use 4th all the way to 75 if you want. I have, but I am usually in 5th at about 45. |
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Title: Re: Question on MPH and correct gear Post by sunny on 07/21/04 at 15:02:09 Greg_650 wrote:
i have too, but only inadvertantly. the vibration is too much for me at that speed in 4th as the rearview mirrors become worthless. |
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