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Title: muffler Post by donq on 11/07/04 at 13:25:45 does anyone have pics of super trapp or jardgin pipes. how much $$$$$$$$ how hard to do can I do it myself does it sound that mush better thanks don q |
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Title: Re: muffler Post by John Himmelberger on 11/07/04 at 22:45:03 I have the jardine and the sound is mmm mmm good. I ride with several buddies (harleys to Yamahas) and they ALL comment on my sound! I could take some pictures if you are interested in seeing it. johnh |
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Title: Re: muffler Post by Susan on 11/08/04 at 06:42:24 Sgt_Mike wrote:
Sarg - I just moved your message to this thread since donq had asked the same question in two places I wanted to delete one of the threads. |
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Title: Re: muffler Post by Greg_650 on 11/09/04 at 14:48:10 I just saw that one. No, no. Buy one to fit a Savage so you don't have to mess with adapters or brackets. |
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Title: Re: muffler Post by giom-650 on 11/17/04 at 07:49:59 I went for the SuperTrapp. It is an easy installation. The SuperTrapp is 10 pounds lighter than the stock muffler, has a greatly improved sound, and gives a noticeable power boost especially in the midrange in the higher gears. Expect to pay around $250 for the SuperTrapp, and they are easy to find. Go to their website and locate your closest dealer. The SuperTrapp is adjustable, so you can set the power and/or noise you want. However, I recommend you upjet your carb when you do this to maximize the effect, wipe out the backfiring, and to eliminate pipe discoloration. Look at the Dynojet 3107A jet kit for this upgrade. |
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Title: Re: muffler Post by Savage_Rob on 11/17/04 at 07:57:42 I just put the MAC on mine for $95 from the manufacturer and I love both the sound and the increased flow. I also used the K&N direct replacement air filter and a Mikuni 155 main jet in the carb. If you are interested, I have an MP3 sound clip I recorded of the MAC. I also have copies of sound clips of the Jardine, Raask and Supertrapp provided by Greg. If you'd like to hear them, please send me a PM (don't clutter this thread) and I'll shoot 'em to you. (I am assuming Greg doesn't mind my passing his along.) John or Susan, I think these are the four main mufflers made specifically to fit the Savage/S40 and if there's a way to host these files and provide links to them on the site, that would probably be useful for folks considering using one of them. |
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Title: Re: muffler Post by Susan on 11/17/04 at 08:26:11 Savage_Rob wrote:
I've already sent John a note to see if we can get this done. I'll let you know. |
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Title: Re: muffler Post by Paladin on 11/17/04 at 08:29:52 I asked Greg weeks ago and he said I could make the wav files, Jardine (http://savage.andruschak.net/Jardine.wav), RaaskDragpipe (http://savage.andruschak.net/RaaskDragpipe.wav), and SuperTrapp (http://savage.andruschak.net/SuperTrapp01.wav ), available to download. I can add your MAC if you wish. |
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Title: Re: muffler Post by Susan on 11/17/04 at 08:41:41 Paladin wrote:
That's cool. Can you start a topic in the tech section with them? When I hear from John we can change them over to being stored and downloading from the site (if its ok with him) but until then your files would be great! |
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Title: Re: muffler Post by Paladin on 11/17/04 at 19:30:32 Savage Rob sent me all four files in MP3 format: Savage_Jardine_Slip-On (http://savage.andruschak.net/Savage_Jardine_Slip-On.mp3) Savage_MAC_Slip-On (http://savage.andruschak.net/Savage_MAC_Slip-On.mp3) Savage_Raask_Dragpipe (http://savage.andruschak.net/Savage_Raask_Dragpipe.mp3) Savage_SuperTrapp (http://savage.andruschak.net/Savage_SuperTrapp.mp3) |
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Title: Re: muffler Post by Greg_650 on 11/18/04 at 09:21:00 We got it goin' on don't we? Pictures and sounds of the Savage..... :D |
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Title: Re: muffler Post by PRH111 on 11/18/04 at 09:26:05 Wow...fast server. I was pulling 200kB/s |
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Title: Re: muffler Post by gandalph40 on 11/18/04 at 10:48:36 Hi...first post on this board. Just bought a '99 Savage and the exhaust will need to be replaced soon. Thanks for posting this thread. Sound and performance are both important, plus cost! This is really helpful! 8) |
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Title: Re: muffler Post by Paladin on 11/18/04 at 13:37:01 Price counts also. And it, as always, comes down to personal preference. I dislike high frequencies and judging by the sound clips my muffler of choice would be the MAC -- it muffles the sharp highs while leaving the mellow lows to escape into the world. |
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Title: Re: muffler Post by Paladin on 11/18/04 at 13:52:59 PRH111 wrote:
And cheap and reliable -- sort of the exception to pcik two: fast, cheap, correct. It's hosted by jaguarpc.com, I did a one year pre-pay and got a buncha megs and 15G bandwidth for $8/mo. The current Gigadeal is 1G space, 45G bandwidth, $6/mo. At those prices you would expect slow and shoddy -- but they're not. My bandwidth hasn't gone over a gig yet, averages abour a half -- and that is for all five domains. I don't mind hosting a few pictures and sounds. |
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Title: Re: muffler Post by bassman29 on 11/18/04 at 14:35:36 Quote:
I agree that based on those sound clips the MAC sounds the best (deepest). However, to be a fair comparison, the sound clips need to be recorded with similar if not identical devices and media. It sounds to me like the MAC recording may simply have been made with superior equipment. The Raask recording sounds like a chainsaw because the recording quality is inferior (to my ears anyway). [edit]No offense intended to the person (Greg?) responsible for the Raask recording - and the others. It would be helpful to me to know how the recordings were done. Rereading other posts it appears that Greg came up with the Jardine, Raask and Supertrapp and Savage_Rob did the MAC - correct? What did you fellers use to record them? |
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Title: Re: muffler Post by Savage_Rob on 11/18/04 at 16:16:05 For the MAC, I used two 12-ft extension cords and a cheap mic to get to about 5 feet from the bike in my garage. It was recorded directly into the PC's sound card (an old Soundblaster SB16 Value card) at 16 khz using the basic Windows sound recorder. I then converted it to a VBR MP3 using a free (for personal use) conversion app called Switch. |
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Title: Re: muffler Post by Greg_650 on 11/20/04 at 04:13:50 I used a Sony Digital Recorder for my sounds files, but let's remember that none were done with the best accoustic surroundings. My pipes would most likely sound different on my recorder if I went to Robs house and made them, and vice versa. He recorded his in a garage, and mine were on a porch. Sound wise, I like the Raask for it's sheer volume. Sounds like 1/2 of any Cobra type pipe on a v-twin....yep, loud. I like the SuperTrapp, Mac, and Jardine for the mellower tones...in that order too. However, in all fairness, my recording of a Jardine was done at a rally on a Savage that wasn't really tuned right and the Jardine had a loose baffle....so that file is merely an example, but not a perfect one. Besides, comparing the Raask with the others is apples and oranges again....you can't compare a larger ID straight pipe with a stock header and a slip-on muffler. The total flow is different.... And let's not forget, we're all listening to these on different computer speakers and in different rooms, too. We just have no standard for either the recording or the playback. But what the hay....we've got more sounds than any other forum. Thanks to Paladin for posting them ;D |
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Title: Re: muffler Post by Greg_650 on 11/20/04 at 04:47:22 Anyone want a recording of a stock Savage? Didn't think so.... ::) |
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Title: Re: muffler Post by cphilip on 11/20/04 at 08:58:26 I think we should have one in there..... for shear shock value! :o ;D |
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Title: Re: muffler Post by Susan on 11/22/04 at 06:57:08 Greg_650 wrote:
You might have to boost the speaker sensitivity to capture the sound... |
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Title: Re: muffler Post by klx650sm2002 on 11/23/04 at 03:04:56 There is another silencer, the Miller. go to links, Jon's Savage Site, photos, Cool Savages and go down to the 14th image, a nice up turned silencer. Clive W :D |
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