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Title: Super Brace Post by red2k1 on 01/11/05 at 18:27:50 A while ago I read on here about the merits or lack thereof of a fork brace. Cannot find the thread right now. The SuperBrace was recommended. I live in a small town that is also home to a state university. Sometimes the fates are supportive for a friend of mine heads the Department of Industrial Design and one of his classes was looking for a practical analytical project. I brought up the fork brace and the notion of testing perception as to whether or not the brace made any difference in handling. I will not bore you with the study design, but will say that four Savages were used with sixteen different riders. Finding sixteen riders was the most difficult part of the study. The Savages were all in the same state of tune etc. The riders did not know what they were testing nor did they know if the bike was "modified." The result: at a 0.01 level of signifigance it was the perception that the brace enhanced handling. Following the study I purchased a SuperBrace and installed it on my 2002 Savage. I engaged in the pretest, post-test thing over a measured course with various challenges and subsequent to that have ridden just under 300 miles with the brace. Conclusion: for my '02 this is the first modification I should have made. The brace turned my Savage into a different bike. Highly recommended, but pricey. Thought you might like to know this experience. |
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Title: Re: Super Brace Post by gitarzan on 01/11/05 at 21:53:12 How odd. That thread IS missing. I thought the original post was by Kropatchek. I added a link to it last weekend. (being the nerd I am, I spend several minutes going thru my old posts...) AHA! Found it. RKE wrote the initial mention. http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=RubberSideDown;action=display;num=1101565359;start=33#33 |
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Title: Re: Super Brace Post by Savage_Rob on 01/12/05 at 05:18:23 Nope. This is it... Our Accessories (http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=RubberSideDown;action=display;num=1101565359) |
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Title: Re: Super Brace Post by threezukes on 01/12/05 at 06:10:37 What was the differences in handling with and without the fork brace? |
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Title: Re: Super Brace Post by red2k1 on 01/12/05 at 12:01:43 threezukes, Over the five mile test course the following are the top four reports: 1- a sense of increased steering stability especially over challenging surfaces (tracks better and responds to driver inputs consistently) 2- improved steering feel or feedback through the handlebars 3- decrease in vibration or pull when breaking 4- a general decrease in vibration as felt through the handlebars |
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Title: Re: Super Brace Post by Savage_Rob on 01/20/05 at 05:43:21 This past weekend I happened to ride on some sections of freeway whose surface had been stripped in preparation for resurfacing. If you've ever ridden on those, you know their grooves put rain grooves to shame. I'd ridden on a different section of freeway a couple of months ago that had been stripped in the same way and there is a huge improvement in both feel and handling after installing the SuperBrace. The wobble is greatly reduced. I highly recommend this accessory (or a comparable one). |
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Title: Re: Super Brace Post by Reelthing on 02/11/05 at 20:34:51 Just put one on - if the weather holds, give it a go tomorrow - does add a rather "finished" look to the frontend http://www.mccserv.com/savage/dscf0016.jpg |
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Title: Re: Super Brace Post by PerrydaSavage on 02/12/05 at 02:14:53 8)How 'bout a pic reelthing? The more I hear about the fork-brace the more I am intrigued! |
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Title: Re: Super Brace Post by Ed L. on 02/12/05 at 06:24:46 After reading about the Superbrace on the Accessories thread I went over to the website and checked it out. Seemed like a good addition so got one in last week. Haven't had a chance to test ride yet, still too much snow around. Seems to be everything that they say it is, nicely made with a high polish. Only took 15 minutes to install. Add this in with the sportster muffler, rejetting the main jet and clubman handle bars it looks like my '02 isn't quite the way Suzuki made it ;D. Now all that is needed is a fresh tank of gas and a warm weekend. Ride Safe |
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Title: Re: Super Brace Post by Reelthing on 02/14/05 at 21:10:00 Well, we managed a great weather day, so out for a test of the superbrace. It seems to me steering becomes more precise, much more so on roads with an irregular surface, just feels better stuck to the pavement. I'll give it :) :) :) on performance and :) :) :) :) :) on looks |
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Title: Re: Super Brace Post by rke on 02/15/05 at 04:24:44 I've had my forkbrace for 14 years now. Before I bought the Savage I used to ride bikes with more performance. I've loved the handling of my Suzuki GT250 (in the 80-s, my second bike), and I hated the handling of my Honda CB750KZ, which I bought after I had an accident with the GT250. The dealer where I bought the Honda advised me a fork brace, so I bought one for my Honda. It was really a great improvement..... Many years later my wife said to me: Let's buy a motorcycle, something like a Savage...... >:( After riding on performancebikes like the Triumph Trophy, the Savage was a real nightmare. It steered like there was a piece of rubberband between me and my front-wheel. But I remembered the improvement made with the forkbrace, so I bought the Savage. And I ordered a forkbrace too. And..... I've never regretted this purchase...... Nor the Savage or the forkbrace ;D ;D ;D Edit: typo's |
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Title: Re: Super Brace Post by Red_Wine on 02/15/05 at 04:37:55 Reelthing wrote:
Hi Reelthing, I like the look of that front end, and those highway pegs... any chance to publish or send pics of them? I'm planning to make some arrangements and any ideas are welcome... Thanks, and ride safe. RW |
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Title: Re: Super Brace Post by Reelthing on 02/16/05 at 05:39:52 Another pic of the highway pegs/superbrace http://www.mccserv.com/savage/dscf0025.jpg |
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Title: Re: Super Brace Post by gitarzan on 02/16/05 at 11:56:24 Looks good. After what RKE said I may well have to get one. My last bike, the RD350, handled like it was part of me. It really did exactly what I expected it to do. The Savage, while I've gotten used to it, still surprises me around tight turns and I've slowed my act down quite a bit. I know it's supposedly a great handler for a cruiser, I've never really ridden a big cruiser to compare it to. Makes me wonder... |
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Title: Re: Super Brace Post by Ed L. on 02/17/05 at 16:07:44 Does anybody have an idea what the four small screws that are on the top of the Superbrace are for? Thanks |
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Title: Re: Super Brace Post by Reelthing on 02/17/05 at 21:21:41 Ed L. wrote:
Great question - the instructions that came with it certainly didn't say.... |
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Title: Re: Super Brace Post by klx650sm2002 on 02/18/05 at 00:13:28 On my SR500 fork brace (TZR250 forks) which bolts to two lugs on each fork leg there are four holes for mudguard mounting. Standard TZR brace is 2mm thick, the one I have is a one off 6mm thick one Clive W :D |
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Title: Re: Super Brace Post by Savage_Rob on 02/18/05 at 05:45:50 Ed L. wrote:
Those are for the optional Stainless Steel Fork Protectors (http://www.superbrace.com/product.php?part_num=6004). |
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Title: Re: Super Brace Post by River on 02/18/05 at 10:44:53 Heya Reelthing- Where'sd ya get the highway bar/pegs? They look sweet and I want 'em! ^o^ |
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Title: Re: Super Brace Post by Greg_650 on 02/18/05 at 11:32:58 Reelthing wrote:
Does the highway bar/pegs stay nice and rigidly mounted or can it turn on the u-bolt mount? |
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Title: Re: Super Brace Post by thehoghunter on 02/18/05 at 12:24:39 If it's like the Highway Hawk Deluxe bar I put on my wife's - they have two u bolt attachments - so it doesn't move around. Goes on right after the downtube splits into two. |
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Title: Re: Super Brace Post by Reelthing on 02/18/05 at 19:14:38 Reelthing wrote:
I doubt that it can move - if you look at this picture you can see the u-bolts go through a flat plate that is pulled against the frame. Certainly feel planted. On the bike when it followed me home - no idea where he got them. -G-rated edit- |
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Title: Re: Super Brace Post by gitarzan on 02/19/05 at 06:12:05 Quote:
Ewww. Yuck. |
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