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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1111424288 Message started by cphilip on 03/21/05 at 08:58:08 |
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Title: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by cphilip on 03/21/05 at 08:58:08 Been rather busy with this and not been on much. Just wanted to brag a bit here. I finaly got this Scooter completed and went down to Madison Georgia this weekend to a Rally/Show with it. It was held at the Weiner Microcar Museum in Madison. About 60 scooters there I would say, maybe more. Four categories, Best Vespa, Best Lambretta, Best Rat bike and Best Custom. I walked away with the Trophy for Best Custom on this Black and Chrome T5. Some of you may remember me posting progress pictures. Here it is finished and sporting it's first win. http://scoot.net/gallery/bbs/T5fistcitywin1.jpg http://scoot.net/gallery/bbs/T5fistcitywin10.jpg http://scoot.net/gallery/bbs/T5fistcitywin9.jpg ...end brag.... :-D |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by sluggo on 03/21/05 at 10:06:03 sweeeeeeet. ;D |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by Savage_Rob on 03/21/05 at 10:41:33 Very cool. Congratulations! |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by PerrydaSavage on 03/21/05 at 13:31:48 8)That is one cool scoot man ... congrats! |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by Michael on 03/21/05 at 16:00:44 cphilip Glad to see all your hard work paid off. You have a right to be proud! Still wish the Savage had that seat....lol.It's bigger than my sofa ;D cheers Michael |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by bentwheel on 03/21/05 at 16:21:28 Dam fine job on the scoot. Well deserved. |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by WD on 03/21/05 at 16:32:10 I normally wouldn't look twice at a step through. May have to start changing my opinion... That is one fine looking machine. -WD |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by cphilip on 03/21/05 at 18:00:18 Thanks guys... It was a bunch of work and a lot of fun. This is now my fifth one so its kinda coming easier in some ways. However this was a pretty difficult one for the parts end of it. A lot of little bits from England and Germany and even a place out in San Diego to get it where I wanted it. Its finished as far as suspension and body and trim... but its not finished performance wise! I am kitting it up to 172 cc with a Malossi top end. Nikasil lined with plated rings. I have already added a performance exhaust. Not a real high end wild one... but some better anyways. Sounds like a dirt bike now, LOL. And I am upjetting it slightly when that kit arrives. Currently waiting on a head to be profiled for it so I can do that. Increase in speed? Reportedly now 85 mph. Currently in the 124cc configuration it clocks at 65 mph. Gonna be dam scary on 10" wheels. I am currently redoing the brakes in the rear with some "Performance Pads". Figure I gonna need em! "/ Hey yea... these are dam fun rides. Good complement to the Savage. I use the Savage for the longer runs and this about town and such. Realy freaks the people out when you blow by em at 65 on "a dam moped"! The reactions are priceless. Worth every penny. Most vintage scooterists consider this "the ugly one" with its mid 80's attempt at modernization. This model was never imported into the US directly. But a few have been brought in. This one is from Italy. It however is the fastest most agressive motor one they ever built from the factory. So I tried to work within that theme of what it was. Basicaly a racer. The black and chrome seemed to fit its style. That black is actualy very finely speckled with chrome flake within it. It lights up in full sunlight. But is stealth when in subdued light like that. My current new project is something really special. One your going to love. Its a 1961 Allstate Vespa and it will be accompanied with a matching period Sidecar. Its for the wife. I got a splendid solid 61 here I am currently going through before I break it down for paint. And I am negotiating on the sidecar now. This one will be slower... but very early 60's period look to it. Bubble butt round things. Very cool. |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by cphilip on 03/21/05 at 18:42:11 Forgot to tell you the coolest part of the weekend! The place that hosted this is the Weiner Microcar Museum in Madison GA. He is into scooters too. He is decendant of the Dubble Bubble gum family. Inherited it all it seems. Owns all the cars you will see there and in this link. Privately owned that is. He let us use his farm and opened his Museum to us plus he has a lot of Motorized toys he gave us free use of. His own private track runs round the field we camped in. We drove all sorts of stuff all day and night. He had the local Police escort us on our ride. And we stretched for a mile I would guess. It is reported that he recently sold out the Gum business for a cool $250 Million! http://www.microcarmuseum.com/ Would be a nice bike ride and great place to visit if you get a chance. |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by Kropatchek on 03/22/05 at 03:18:55 That's something different than we see in this form. BTW :congrats with your price, hope you have room to store all the trophies comming ::) Kropatchek ;D |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by Greg_650 on 03/22/05 at 05:28:50 Very good, Dude. Ever thought about doing something with an old Cushman? |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by cphilip on 03/22/05 at 06:25:13 Greg_650 wrote:
I have never been that attracted to them. They certainly have thier following and unfortunately a fairly well to do following at that. Sort of nostalgic followers that had them as a kid. And want one again. They get rather pricey to obtain these days for what they are. But they always lacked style and performance. After all it was a small engine company just sticking their engine into a box of a scooter to increase motor sales. Never much styling or performance thought to them. And the followers seem willing to pay overly much for one. Did you know Cushman imported Vespa's for a few years and placed their name on them? Yep... there are Cushman Vespa's. Not for a very long period mind you. And of course they made Cushmans under the Allstate name as well. But that whole crowd is a different group of collectors. And I am not that enamored with that style of bike. I have studied them a bit. But would have to stumble on a real deal before I would consider it. I can find some fairly complete and running (or almost) Vespa's out there for $500. Not easily but I do now have a network of people that will tell me about them. And since I am going to have to sink another 6 or 7 hundred into them I can afford to do that. Not so Cushman scooters rarely do you find for under 1500. And Vespa parts are still readily made as they are still making them in eastern countries just alike. Cushman parts are not. If they are remade they are small custom shops and or NOS parts someone has horded. And the very late ones are not even Scooter style. They are small motorcycles. Mini bikes more or less. And another thing that turns me off about them is the lack of ability to make them perform past stock. Most of them are one speed and a few of them are simple two speed. And their speed is very limited. And so is their suspension. There is not much you can do to them to improve that. What you end up with is a odd looking mini bike most times with a simple go cart type performance. |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by cphilip on 03/22/05 at 06:29:36 Kropatchek wrote:
Not sure I follow you? Typo? Ah... well I probably will not show it again. And you don't actualy "enter" it in these things. Its done by the host club whom sort of recognise and secretly ballot through the day. Every scooter that shows up is technicaly "entered" and it has to be something that catches thier eye and they all are enamored with. Most times you win one and your basicaly off the list after a win. Not technically but practicaly. So the trophy's get shared around if there is a few nice scooters there. Unless its at another major national rally you might get back in the hunt there. Probably would. And I don't really intend to attend one of those because they are so far away from me. Mainly in Vegas once a year. If anything I might get a small spread in Scoot Quarterly out of this one. Thats about it. |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by Paladin on 03/22/05 at 11:01:44 cphilip wrote:
I might be getting back to you on that. Amanda expressed interest in two wheels to commute to college. I mentioned that I had picked out the Vivo125 and was told that I had no business picking anything out for her and that she wanted a Vespa. Can I get a clean and reliable Vespa (125cc+) for about $2G? |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by Nightrain on 03/22/05 at 13:41:48 Hey C Phillip, I just saw your pics on scoot dot net. I didnt know you took honars at the fist city rally. Those guys really know their sh*t! I had the privledge of meeting all those guys at Tampa 2 stroke sleep away camp last year. My cousin "Flib" lives in athens and runs with all of those guys. He rides a silver sprint with a yellow and black checkerd flag on the cowl. Small world. Sweet T5! Now that its fine tuned, will it suck the headlights out of a P200? |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by cphilip on 03/22/05 at 14:34:02 Nightrain wrote:
It will when I get done with it. It goes head to head with them now! Paladin, no problem at all getting into something thats a good runner and looks good too for that price. Now.... remember, these shift. Three and four speed. They are not twist and go. The Vino was a good choice. but what do you know... your just a Dad! ;D But contact me and I start throwing some ideas at you and we go from there. I can find you something and do it up for you or we put you onto someone safe and honest in your area. No problem. If a shift scooter is her thing. If not we put you onto a good twist and go for that money. Easy to do. thats a very fair budget and we can meet or beat that. Oh and be very carefull on ebay or anyone you deal with. Due to the popularity of them now there are tons of worn out junk coming over from Southeast asia now. Junk and some dangerous. We find you a solid low mileage USA barn scooter or something. I know of a few and I know places you can trust. Within your budget too. |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by Paladin on 03/22/05 at 16:09:51 It'll be a while -- she started driving school last Thursday, has yet to apply for her learners' permit, and I'll require the Basic Rider Course before she'll even allowed to think 2 wheels. But it is good to know that the Vespa is an option if she still wants one later. |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by cphilip on 03/22/05 at 16:19:30 Check your Message box Paladin. Important contact for you. |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by Greg_650 on 03/23/05 at 05:31:53 cphilip wrote:
Oh well....yeah, as a kid, I always wanted one.... http://home.comcast.net/~gmdinusa/Cushman_Eagle_51.jpg |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by Greg_650 on 03/27/05 at 06:44:05 How about this scooter? I think these are kinda neat :D http://powersports.honda.com/assets/images/model/model_hero_shot/Scooters/2005/large/Big_Ruckus.jpg |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by bobo383 on 03/27/05 at 20:12:15 The Ruckus is cool. |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by Greg_650 on 03/28/05 at 05:26:39 Looks like something out of Mad Max :o |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by Savage_Rob on 03/28/05 at 05:53:59 The first time I saw one I thought "Xterra scooter". You know, those SUVs that look like a waterproof walkman with wheels... I like the way the Ruckus looks utilitarian but I would prefer another color - maybe flat black or olive drab. |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by cphilip on 03/28/05 at 09:29:26 That the "Big" Ruckus they call it. New model. Only comes in Yellow. 250cc 4 stroke water cooled and is also very pricey... 6k by the time you get out the door. Still want one? :o |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by Red_Wine on 03/28/05 at 11:55:08 cphilip wrote:
Wow!! that's expensive... :o No way I'm paying that much for such a little scoot... :oI can get a full size savage for $2500 here in Chile... ;D and I can buy my 7-year old boy a Chinese mini bike for as much as $1500, so I'd still save around 2 grands, no bad, eh? ;) KTRSD, RW |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by Susan on 03/28/05 at 11:56:40 Congrats cphilip! Good for you! |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by Greg_650 on 03/30/05 at 05:43:13 cphilip wrote:
Expensive, yes. But the darned thing looks like it is built to take a beating too. ::) |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by cphilip on 04/01/05 at 12:53:22 I bring this back up because I thought one of you guys up in the NJ area or round abouts might be interested in this. The guy just posted a Yamaha Riva 200cc with some dam low mileage for sale for $1200. These are about the uglyest things but they are like little tanks and automatic and fast. http://scooterbbs.com/board/DCForumID4/5924.html His sale post is at that link. I don't know him or anything. But looks like a nice deal. |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by Greg_650 on 04/02/05 at 09:03:49 cphilip wrote:
Will it really do 70 mph? |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by Paladin on 04/02/05 at 13:41:38 A 200cc bike doing 70mph -- probably. I did an indicated 65mph keeping up with freeway traffic on a 100cc Twinjet. My DT175 with the tall sprocket would do an indicated 65mph. |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by Greg_650 on 04/02/05 at 14:45:19 Paladin wrote:
I'm just thinking about the scooter's smaller wheels. They gotta turn quite a few more rpms to do 70.... |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by Paladin on 04/02/05 at 15:11:08 Think Mini Cooper (original, not the bloated BMW.) 10 feet long on 10 inch wheels and unbeatable at many courses. |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by Greg_650 on 04/02/05 at 15:47:19 And of course, the gearing is tall and engine turns a few extra revs... |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by cphilip on 04/02/05 at 17:21:17 Well this T5 is hitting 65 mph now at 124cc... so should be easy as pie to get 70 out of that. Let alone a 200cc. I expect 80 - 85 from this T5 when its kitted up to 172. But its got tall gears and short high rev stroke too. It will most likely be hitting close 9K rpm or better when it gets there. But its designed to do so. Now remember this Yamaha would be belt and variator not gearing per say. Its an automatic. And yea... I bet it will do it. I bet it will take a long run to get there though. But should be able to indeed do it I think the speed record of a 10" wheel scooter is like 114 mph or something like that. |
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Title: Re: Begin Brag now: cphilip takes the trophy! Post by klx650sm2002 on 04/03/05 at 01:26:19 We had a 970 mini cooper S when I was a kid, they only made about 500 of them. later we had a 1293. Clive W :D |
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