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Message started by Greg_650 on 04/19/05 at 20:04:57

Title: Cool Links for Bike Parts
Post by Greg_650 on 04/19/05 at 20:04:57

Well, I bought 3" coil springs for my solo seat, but like Sluggo, I don't see how to fit them without riding downhill foreward all the time. They are stiff and only compress 1" under my mass, so that means the seat will be higher. Hmmmm. The seat mount and the frame don't match quite right either and as I was thinking about brackets to fabricate to adapt them together, I found another source and a new idea...and maybe a topic to save for sources of bike goodies....

Here is J&P Cycle....

J&P Cycles (http://www.jpcycles.com/index.aspx)

And here are the new springs that I just ordered...Wish me luck, the spouse thinks that I'm spending too much money :)

http://www4.jpcycles.com/zoom/1e39dd13-2b56-4bd5-8593-0b67e7f39085.jpeg

Title: Re: Cool Links for Bike Parts
Post by sluggo on 04/19/05 at 20:39:21

Greg_650 wrote:

actually mine has a different bracket so it is level it just leaves much space underneath. but it's much better than mounting to frame, that was way to hard on butt.

also the springs have bent somewhat as i've ridden it, making it a little lower...

i was thinking about the springs you show. i'll send close up on mounting.

Title: Re: Cool Links for Bike Parts
Post by WD on 04/19/05 at 21:28:05

Both styles are adequate. I never got more than a couple seasons out of either style. But they still beat the stock seat hands down. ::) Of course, since the Savage HAS rear suspension from the factory, the seat springs will probably last a good while.
-WD

Title: Re: Cool Links for Bike Parts
Post by Greg_650 on 04/20/05 at 05:30:20

sluggo wrote:

Thanks for the pic. Are your springs 2" or 3"? I think that's the problem. My seat is also wider than that one and the hole mounting is 6 1/2" on centers and wider than the frame holes. So I'm looking at an offset bracket arrangement.

I have the same front seat mount, but I haven't worried about fitting that end because it is simpler.

Title: Re: Cool Links for Bike Parts
Post by sluggo on 04/20/05 at 08:52:01

i believe they are three inches, i got them off an old schwinn bicycle seat. mine too are wider then frame.

they mount to a steel bar that sits on frame with hardended bolts that run through the old fender mount holes they then hold the fender bracket in place on the bottom.

Title: Re: Cool Links for Bike Parts
Post by Greg_650 on 04/21/05 at 05:33:38

I sat on my seat with the coil springs, and they only compress 1" which puts the static height at 2". I thought about a bar across the frame for a mount but that only adds more distance.

Then I thought about two offset brackets to lower the springs on the outside of the frame, but decided that simple was getting more complex.

We'll see how the new springs look when they arrive.

Now, where can I find motorcycle type electrical connectors? 2, 3, and 4 way? I started redoing my wiring last weekend. The rectifier goes under the battery, behind the engine...I have wires to shorten and lengthen.

Title: Re: Cool Links for Bike Parts
Post by Oklahoma_Mike on 04/21/05 at 16:07:28

Thanks for the site. 8)

Title: Re: Cool Links for Bike Parts
Post by Greg_650 on 04/22/05 at 08:46:55

Oklahoma_Mike wrote:

Thanks for the site. 8)

Most welcome...

Here is another one...they have motorcycle type electrical connectors, but shipping from England more than doubles the price of the connectors I need....need one in the US.

British site (http://www.inter-bike.co.uk/default.asp)

Title: Re: Cool Links for Bike Parts
Post by WD on 04/23/05 at 01:40:36

Greg, check with a GOOD chandlery (boat supply store in American). If it will work on a boat's electrical system, it will work fine on a bike system. And probably for a better price. I get electrical bits for the bike, both vintage trucks, and both cars at West Marine.
-WD

Title: Re: Cool Links for Bike Parts
Post by Greg_650 on 04/23/05 at 07:40:35

WD wrote:

Like new "multi-way" terminals? I'm trying to avoid the use of individual spade or bullet connectors, and for example, I've got about 18" to shorten the 3 phase wiring (yellow wires) to the rectifier.

I know that you can usually take these multi-ways apart and resolder or crimp, but I've got a whole lot of wiring to hide and it has to be done right....

I spent about 2 hours searching the web yesterday, and the best options that I could find were sources in the UK and India ::), and I'm wanting to avoid the shipping costs.

(this also shows me that we don't manufacture anything in the US anymore)

Title: Re: Cool Links for Bike Parts
Post by Greg_650 on 04/23/05 at 08:01:43

Well, I got the new seat springs from J&P Cycle. Not bad, and will certainly be a different look.

Time to go to the garage and get to work :)

http://home.comcast.net/~gmdinusa/SeatSprings01web.jpg

Title: Re: Cool Links for Bike Parts
Post by WD on 04/23/05 at 14:42:37

You'd be amazed at the stuff you can find at a boat supply store. Be ready to spend a couple hours hunting the bits though, electrical conectors are in general electrical, lighting, engine, radio sections at the local shop. I need to go get a bunch of wiring and fittings for mine. I'm going to hide the wiring in the frame and bars as much as possible, so, I'll end up deleting the factory junction blocks. Now if I could just figure out where to relocate the compression release solenoid...I want to run a custom tank, and it mounts a lot higher than the stocker...
-WD

Title: Re: Cool Links for Bike Parts
Post by Greg_650 on 04/24/05 at 06:24:55

I'll tell you what, I wish that I had a handful of them right now, but I just got to get this bike back together...so I'm out of time.

Plus I have opened up a can of worms too. Since I have an open frame with a springer seat, I decided to redo the wiring harness such that I can create a neat layout of the wires through the frame (not like the mess that is normally hidden under the stock seat)....and to that I have unwrapped most of the wiring harness. Wow, what a cluster f***, and the harness is full of factory wire splices too...with blue electrical tape. I never have undone a harness to this extent before, and I gotta say it looks just as screwed up as the schematic...:)

Well, anyway, I gotta go out to the garage early and start working. I am having to pull the spades out of the stock connectors, cut the old wire and resolder each connection new...it would have been so much easier to just crimp a new wire in a new connector but I'm getting behind.

Title: Re: Cool Links for Bike Parts
Post by sluggo on 04/24/05 at 08:53:50

thats why i made a sheet metal piece that covers the mess.

Title: Re: Cool Links for Bike Parts
Post by Greg_650 on 04/25/05 at 05:27:10

I was giving thought to a piece of leather across the frame, but still it is a challenge to try to make it look organized....I've hated that mess of wires since I first removed the seat

I have the rectifier mounted below the battery and behind the engine on the swingarm pivot....I was able to shorten the alternator wires 18 inches, and all of the tail section wiring has a bullet connector directly under the tail light.