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Title: be prepared for a blown fuse Post by rebslb13 on 04/23/05 at 22:12:48 I was out exploring again today and was down a county road in part of Mark Twain National Forest. I was turning around in a pullout and got a little careless and killed it when I let out the clutch. It blew a fuse when it died (a surge I guess). So, I'm well off the road with no juice; no starter, lights, neutral light, anything. I had put a box of fuses in when I blew one installing the saddlebags and had practice from that event. So, I was able to pull the seat and replace the fuse. Everything was okay then, much to my great relief. It would have been a LONG walk to a phone since my cell phone was dead. The point to this woefull tale is to caution others to have a fuse and know how to install it if needed. I know others find it simple, but some others may need to learn. This was a first for me on this bike, have others had this happen? It's pretty spooky to not be able to go and have to fix it "in the field." |
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Title: Re: be prepared for a blown fuse Post by Oklahoma_Mike on 04/23/05 at 22:18:50 haven't had that happen but point well takin 8) |
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Title: Re: be prepared for a blown fuse Post by sluggo on 04/23/05 at 22:19:22 rebslb13 wrote:
a couple of fuses come with the tool kit. you are correct about learing how to do it.. there are several othere things you should learn before hitten the road. 1. how to change tire with took kit only. 2. how to push start. 3. start and ride without clutch. |
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Title: Re: be prepared for a blown fuse Post by rebslb13 on 04/23/05 at 23:01:33 Okay Sluggo, alias GOD, lay some divine wisdom on us mere mortals and explain how to do the other three items you mentioned. 1. Change tire, are you talking removal to take somewhere for repair or do you do that in the field and how do you inflate (must have some bodacious lungs!) I assume you have a patch kit, or else where do you carry the spare (as I remember your beautiful chopper didn't have one). 2. Push to start, what's the risk of blowing a fuse or other electrical damage? I assume you put in about 3rd and push hard! (preferably down a hill). Is this okay to practice without damaging something? 3. Start and ride without a clutch, the hard part must be getting started. Once going I think letting off the gas momentarily while shifting would work, but getting started? Is this good to practice without doing damage? Thanks for helping all of us out, and also you others who I know will chime in with your experiences. |
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Title: Re: be prepared for a blown fuse Post by sluggo on 04/23/05 at 23:17:28 rebslb13 wrote:
i carry my spare tire around my waist. the tire change isn't as important as the other two. it's easier to get someone in a cage to take you to a service station if you have the rear wheel off. that or you can carry it your by hand if neccessary. i see someone carrying a tire i would stop to see if i could help. 2. your pretty close on the push start. first thing to do is put in 3rd or 4th and push it BACKWARDS till you can push no more. that puts the engine in the right portion on the 4 stroke. then hold clutch push push push jump on pop clutch and go. this works well if you be out and leave the ignition on. not enough juice to start, yet enough to run. 3. there are two methods, one blip throttle pop it in first and hang on. that's the method given in owners manual. second start in neutral push the bike to get some movement jump on pop into first hang on. very seldom do i use the clutch in everyday riding just to get it started, and first to second. it is ok to do these things without damage. i've done all three of these things with both my last thumper, and learned how to do them when i got this one. it sounds radical but when you do as many miles as i have you will get stranded at some point.. |
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Title: Re: be prepared for a blown fuse Post by WD on 04/24/05 at 01:59:50 I normally only use the clutch for N-1 downshift. And to hold the bike in gear at a stoplight or stop sign. Been a few years, so I need to relearn MY bike's peculiarities again. I've never managed to pop start the Savage, no matter how hard I try. Wouldn't dare try it with the Intruder it share a parking spot with. I rode my bike 45 miles on Fix-a-flat. I usually keep a can in the tool roll. Destroy the tube, but get home? No problem. Make sure you caryy at least 4 spare fuses at all times. I've had both blow at once a couple times. And above everything else, throw out the factory pseudo-tools, buy a tool bag, and get some real tools. You'll need them sooner or later. Kinda hard to carry a roll-away toolbox on a bike. -WD |
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Title: Re: be prepared for a blown fuse Post by gazab44 on 04/24/05 at 03:11:15 been riding bikes all my life and have never broken down or had a flat tyre(out on the road)........you all getting me worried now |
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Title: Re: be prepared for a blown fuse Post by Greg_650 on 04/24/05 at 06:32:28 Technically speaking about fuses, if you stalled the bike and blew a fuse....you better carry a bunch of them because there is something else wrong. There is no reason to think that would cause an electrical surge....I suggest you get back under that seat and look for a short to ground somewhere....and check the battery connections to make sure that the positive leads are clear of the the frame too. Oh yeah, you should be able to change the fuse without removing the seat...if it is mounted in the right place. I'm not getting into the clutch thing...I use mine :P |
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Title: Re: be prepared for a blown fuse Post by LondonThing on 04/24/05 at 08:17:04 sluggo wrote:
FYI I always run TWO clutch and throtle cables and tape them together with black electrical tape, after much bother trying to get through London with no clutch on another bike... I learned the trick from a courier.... 8) |
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Title: Re: be prepared for a blown fuse Post by slavy on 04/24/05 at 09:13:47 Here we are pretty spoiled. The cell phone fixes everything. The gas stations are 24 hr and everywhere. In some places every biker carries on a long trip a pump, patches or a spare tire/or both/,spark plug, el. tape , piece of wire so he can pull strings to fix the fuses, and a real tool kit. Years ago all therussian bikes, MZ and JAWA and CZ came with a pump . |
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Title: Re: be prepared for a blown fuse Post by Oklahoma_Mike on 04/24/05 at 09:28:24 Thanks for the info all 8) |
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Title: Re: be prepared for a blown fuse Post by Jazzdude on 04/24/05 at 13:36:15 WD wrote:
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Title: Re: be prepared for a blown fuse Post by Kropatchek on 04/24/05 at 13:53:04 Jazzdude wrote:
See the post http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1108327792 for the factory toolboz contents. Dont throw all of it away ( acc WD). You'l love the sparkplug socket. the rest gives you a very good idea what to carry around in your toolbox beside your celphone. Greetz Kropatchek ;D |
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Title: Re: be prepared for a blown fuse Post by Jazzdude on 04/24/05 at 14:12:05 Kropatchek wrote:
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Title: Re: be prepared for a blown fuse Post by WD on 04/24/05 at 15:20:10 I run a non-Suzuki plug, so I carry a 5/8" spark plug socket, 6" extension and ratchet. Metric open end wrenches, real philipps and flathad screwdrivers, and at least one of every socket size needed for the bike. Plus the factry axle wrench, because I can't afford a 24mm socket right now. And a pocketknife style metric hex key (allen wrench) set. I've still got (most of) the factory tools if anyone is desperate to acquire them. The Intruder 800 that is my Savage's stablemate came with real tools from the factory. Except for the screwdrivers, same cheapo part as the savage kit. -WD |
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Title: Re: be prepared for a blown fuse Post by rebslb13 on 04/25/05 at 00:13:57 Thanks for all the information. I will practice some on push starting and starting/shifting without a clutch. I will also check out the wiring for possible shorts, especially where I connected my saddlebag lights. One other problem, one of those Duh! things, I was checking the oil and couldn't see any so I added. Still couldn't see any so I reached out and cleaned the glass off and Duh! now there's too much, I'll have to drain off some. Seems the glass catches dust off gravel roads and I couldn't see the oil that was there. At least it is a relief that it wasn't low after all. One of those simple, dumb things that could cause big problems, especially since the glass is so $#@%$#@ hard to see! |
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Title: Re: be prepared for a blown fuse Post by WD on 04/25/05 at 02:23:59 Been there, done that, NOT a fan of sight glasses for the oil, on any bike. Simplecureforthe over fill is a few inches of surgical tubing and a turkey baster. Looks funny, works great. If you like the factory tools, fine, keep them. But, you're still going to need a toolbag with sockets, wrenches and hex keys. Ever try to pull the seat with the stock tools? You'll definitely appreciate a socket, extension and ratchet. You should also carry money for a pay phone in your tool bag. Cellphones still don't work everywhere. I don't even own a cellphone anymore. A year's worth of bills for a phone that rarely got used? Cellphones are evil. Also, join B.A.M. or a related orginization. Bro's club is a good one, if they haven't gone back to HD only. Both offer a member aid list of riders across the USA who'll help if you break-down, get in a wreck, etc. There's bound to be a European version of some sort. Call the club, they send someone out to help you. At little or no charge for the club or the services. -WD |
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Title: Re: be prepared for a blown fuse Post by Setral on 04/25/05 at 06:44:10 Pulling the seat is easy on mine at least. It has a phillips slot in the bolt head. ;D |
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Title: Re: be prepared for a blown fuse Post by bentwheel on 04/25/05 at 08:02:50 I have changed mine to allen head. |
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Title: Re: be prepared for a blown fuse Post by rebslb13 on 04/26/05 at 22:00:46 Changed my screws to Phillips, screwdriver works easy. |
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Title: Re: be prepared for a blown fuse Post by sluggo on 04/26/05 at 22:22:59 ya all know what i did with mine, chopperseat. i moved the fuse to a place that i can access with out dealing with the seat. |
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