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Message started by Nightrain on 04/25/05 at 11:57:09

Title: Kickstand kill switch
Post by Nightrain on 04/25/05 at 11:57:09

If I want to delete the kill switch on the kickstand, can I just cut the wires and twist them together?
Thanks  ;)

Title: Re: Kickstand kill switch
Post by tekxtc on 04/25/05 at 13:44:43

Also how do you bypass the clutch lever start switch?

Let us know!!

Title: Re: Kickstand kill switch
Post by slavy on 04/25/05 at 14:21:50

The clutch lever switch- just put a jumper wire between the 2 terminals of the subharness and tape it with an electrical tape.
If You do that the side stand switch doesn't matter, because the computer "thinks" the clutch is "in"

Title: Re: Kickstand kill switch
Post by Nightrain on 04/25/05 at 15:07:32

so you are saying that if we cut the 2 wires from the sidestand kill switch and twist them together then it will also delete the cluctch kill switch as well??  ???

Title: Re: Kickstand kill switch
Post by sluggo on 04/25/05 at 15:17:07


Nightrain wrote:
so you are saying that if we cut the 2 wires from the sidestand kill switch and twist them together then it will also delete the cluctch kill switch as well??  ???


slavy, i just jumped the clutch wires, and on my 2004 the kickstand switch is still functioning.


Title: Re: Kickstand kill switch
Post by dannimal on 04/25/05 at 15:45:02

I like that Idea Nightrain thought of about the kickstand kill switch removal and then TEKXTC with the clutch switch bypass idea in addition to it as well. That would effectively remove all the saftey feautures on starting the bike I believe. It has positives and negatives to making these mods and maybe thinking about it first and what can happen (i.e. bad things) before doing it should be considered.

1. Forgetting to put kickstand up and you are riding along taking a corner like 30 or 40 mph and it gets snagged like a fish on a hook.

2.Starting the bike and forgetting it is in gear and are totally unprepared or thrown off balance and bike lands on ground with one of your legs to help cushion the fall. ( just hope it's not the hot exhaust or muffler side!!)

3.Maybe someone else who you trust (of course) is riding the bike and forgets or does not know about either one of the mods.

4.Kids love to sit on bikes I hope the key isn't in the ignition (Possibly the 3rd saftey mod to come) when little Johnny pushes that RED "START" button.

I probably would have done all of these mods as well in the past without any second thought of it but now I got too much to lose by doing this stuff. I thought of those 4 in only like a minute I'm sure others will think of more as well.

It's your choice guys just be carefull if you do.

Title: Re: Kickstand kill switch
Post by Nightrain on 04/25/05 at 15:47:43

I am all for safety, but I am fabricating a set of forward controls and there is no place in the design for the kill switch :-/  

Title: Re: Kickstand kill switch
Post by rkutzner on 04/25/05 at 16:29:12

.......let's get rid of the neutral safety switch too !!!

I'm with dannimal here.......... ;)

Title: Re: Kickstand kill switch
Post by WD on 04/26/05 at 00:34:14

Cut the sidestand wires and wire-nut the ends together on the bike side. Bypass the clutch switch. Anyone on my bike without permission deserves whatever rude surprise the bike gives them. I'm trying right now to figure out how to wire in micrswitches under the seat and get rid of ALL the handlebar wiring. Followed closely thereafter by a foot clutch hand shift conversion. Sure wish I could add a functional kicker and magneto...then I could delete over 1/2 of the "spaghetti" the bike is cluttered with.  I realize I should have bought a Beezer or Trumpet thumper...I couldn't find one (and won't own one with Lucas electrical parts...  :P)
-WD

Title: Re: Kickstand kill switch
Post by Kropatchek on 04/26/05 at 02:52:50


Nightrain wrote:
I am all for safety, but I am fabricating a set of forward controls and there is no place in the design for the kill switch :-/  


See this picture of the LH forward control of the Seeger's. The switch is mounted on the protusion on the lh side.
http://img132.echo.cx/img132/7734/fc69bo.jpg

If you still want to delete the switch, follow the wires up to the LH sidepanel. There's the connector, disconnect there and you can always reverse the procedure.

Greetz
Kropatchek ;D

Title: Re: Kickstand kill switch
Post by Greg_650 on 04/26/05 at 14:21:48

To get rid of the side stand and clutch switch?  Does that mean you want to completely remove them and the wires?  

First go to the Technical Corner and get the electrical schematic (or I'll email a scanned copy to you).

Now remove the tank....

Then jumper the O and O/B wires at the right side harness connector going to the starter button.  This will jumper the relay contacts which are closed by the side stand switch....you'll find that the wires run up behind the battery box too :)

Now go to the left side harness connector for the clutch switch....you have a Y/G wire in 2 places because it goes to the switch and back again.  Put a jumper on the clutch switch side of that connector.  This will close the connection needed for the decompression module.

There you go.  Now you are free to grind the side stand or amuse your friends and start the bike in gear  :P

Title: Re: Kickstand kill switch
Post by Nightrain on 04/26/05 at 16:27:44

Thanks for the techincal info. I will most likely get around to doing it the right way. But for now, I figure I'll cut the wires, twist em, tape em, and keep it from draggin' on the ground with a zip tie ;)
real high tech.

Title: Re: Kickstand kill switch
Post by Nightrain on 04/26/05 at 16:31:46

actually, now that I think about it, this would be a great chance to put in a theft deturrent toggle switch. Divert the wires to a toggle switch in a hidden location. if you forget to flip the switch and try to drive away, the bike will stall out.  ;D Or not... Depending on how saucy I feel.

Title: Re: Kickstand kill switch
Post by Greg_650 on 04/26/05 at 16:49:00

Yes, that side stand switch would work for that....of course, if they do as they did to my old XL 350 (RIP), they'll just pick it up and throw it in the back of a truck and haul it off  :'(

Title: Re: Kickstand kill switch
Post by Oklahoma_Mike on 04/26/05 at 17:07:00


Greg_650 wrote:
Yes, that side stand switch would work for that....of course, if they do as they did to my old XL 350 (RIP), they'll just pick it up and throw it in the back of a truck and haul it off  :'(


In a situation like that I have 6 little buddys (in my 357) that can run a hell of a lot faster than they can!


Title: Re: Kickstand kill switch
Post by Red_Wine on 04/27/05 at 09:17:28


Oklahoma_Mike wrote:


In a situation like that I have 6 little buddys (in my 357) that can run a hell of a lot faster than they can!


Here I have six .38 in a short-barrel S&W (shhhh, donīt tell my neighbors  ;)  )

RW


Title: Re: Kickstand kill switch
Post by Oklahoma_Mike on 04/27/05 at 16:37:05

 
Red_Wine wrote:


Here I have six .38 in a short-barrel S&W (shhhh, donīt tell my neighbors  ;)  )

RW



no worrys friend. I hate to ask but how the weather been raining here >:(      8)

Title: Re: Kickstand kill switch
Post by Red_Wine on 04/28/05 at 13:20:25


Oklahoma_Mike wrote:
 


no worrys friend. I hate to ask but how the weather been raining here >:(      8)


Fall here in Chile has been tricky, it rained cats and dogs Tuesday evening  >:( and I got home completely soaked from the waist down  :o  Wednesday was hot and sunny,  8) but this morning it was raining again  >:(
and at noon, it was sunny again  ???

I just want the F*ck*ing weather to make its mnd up!!

Besides that, everything is OK.

RW


Title: Re: Kickstand kill switch
Post by shawn_b on 04/28/05 at 21:59:44

same thing hear in cincinnati rain rain rain and then snow :-[ ???


shawn

Title: Re: Kickstand kill switch
Post by PerrydaSavage on 04/29/05 at 02:22:31

Wow ... northeastern North America is sure getting a crappy "Spring" (so far); seems like cold, wet & snow has been hangin' on from the mid-west on east?? ... after a not-so-bad Winter here in Nfld., Spring kinda sucks ... still gettin' a dusting of snow most every night and though it's gone by 10:00am, the daytime remains unusually cool ... only been for a brief Ride twice in past 2 weeks ... hope it warms up fpr everyone soon!

Title: Re: Kickstand kill switch
Post by Savage_Rob on 04/29/05 at 11:08:10

North Texas just has mood swings.  Yesterday it was 92 F and they are predicting 46 F tonight.

Title: Re: Kickstand kill switch
Post by lancer on 04/29/05 at 18:39:14

South Carolina has been in the 50's at night and the 70's during the day, a little rain, a few clouds, some blue sky...all in all, not too bad.

Title: Re: Kickstand kill switch
Post by Red_Wine on 05/02/05 at 08:40:21


Red_Wine wrote:


I just want the F*ck*ing weather to make its mnd up!!

Besides that, everything is OK.

RW


And to top it all, after a gorgeous sunny, and warm weekend, we'll get rain in Tuesday and Wednesday...  :(   :'( come'on.....

RW


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