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Message started by tfrawg75 on 05/24/05 at 17:15:14

Title: clean up blueing
Post by tfrawg75 on 05/24/05 at 17:15:14

I saw in a previous posting they were talking about that it had been covered that bluing could be taken off.But I saw nothing on what actually does that.If I could find out I could salvage my slip on thanks

Title: Re: clean up blueing
Post by gazab44 on 05/25/05 at 04:09:24

i use Blue Job...it comes in a tub with an applicator cloth.
You need alot of elbow grease also, but it does the trick :)

Title: Re: clean up blueing
Post by tfrawg75 on 05/25/05 at 05:25:16

alright, hopefully I can find that at the bike shop if not do you know if you can order it online? Thanks for your help

Title: Re: clean up blueing
Post by Savage_Rob on 05/25/05 at 05:41:21

Blue Away (http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemType=PRODUCT&RS=1&itemID=1033&keyword=13193) also works but also requires quite a bit of elbow grease and patience. I've even seen this stuff at the local dealer.

Title: Re: clean up blueing
Post by tfrawg75 on 05/25/05 at 05:45:15

thanks again both of you for being so helpful

Title: Re: clean up blueing
Post by gazab44 on 05/25/05 at 05:53:52

I got the blue job from here

http://bluejob.shop-utopia.com/

Title: Re: clean up blueing
Post by Savage_Rob on 05/25/05 at 05:59:40

I did a quick search on Blue-Job (http://store.yahoo.com/classic-motoring/blchpo.html) and found it seems to run $11-$12 + S/H. It looks to be a powder you either mix with water to form a paste of use a wet cloth to do the same. The Blue Away is a liquid similar to Ajax liquid but the abrasive is much finer. I'd bet the two products are very similar.

Title: Re: clean up blueing
Post by gandalph40 on 05/25/05 at 07:20:33

I think you can walk into any reputable (??) stealership and they'll have something that will do this. If you ask for BlueAway, they'll know what you're looking for. One of the local Harley dealers had a whole kit including an orbital polisher wheel (I didn't get that one).

Tom

Title: Re: clean up blueing
Post by hellstorm on 05/25/05 at 09:48:14

Just got some Blue Job the other day at the local dealer, 11.65 plus tax. It comes with a strip of velour type of material to use with it. Don't be surprised when you open the container, there is only about a teaspoon and a half of powder inside. If you look up the patent # on the net it tells what is in it: 20 lbs. aluminum oxide powder mixed with 8 oz. of ground walnut shell powder. You can try caswellplating.com, under buffing and polishing, they have a product called blue be gone, haven't used it yet, but it seems like a better value. I used 0000 fine steel wool instead of the applicator in the jar, it works faster and absolutely no scratches. Good luck!

Brian

Title: Re: clean up blueing
Post by tfrawg75 on 05/25/05 at 09:50:02

thanks just wondering on some opinions.When I put new pipe on within 4 hours or less it was discoloring so I figure it was extremely lean. I have the mixture screw turned out 3 full turns and my stock setup was a 145 main and 52.5 pilot. think I would be safe to go with a 152.5 main and 57.5 pilot? Just looking for some input

Title: Re: clean up blueing
Post by Reelthing on 05/25/05 at 10:25:49

Here's that jet article I remember -

http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com/jetting/default.htm

Title: Re: clean up blueing
Post by Savage_Rob on 05/25/05 at 10:33:23

Man I can't get over this filter... It doesn't like p00n so it turns teasp00n into teasthingy. Pleh!

Title: Re: clean up blueing
Post by Reelthing on 05/25/05 at 10:37:55

Teasp00n ! - I was trying to firgure what the he77 a teasthingy was! - need another cup of coffe I guess.....

Title: Re: clean up blueing
Post by WD on 05/26/05 at 00:54:48

Doesn't matter what you use to remove the blue...unless you correct the lean operating parameters, it will just come right back. Spend your money on carb tweaks, and see pipe blue as a point of pride. Blue pipes equals ridden bike equals well loved bike (and in my particular case, substitute dirty bike for blue pipes). I refuse to waste time washing the bike or polishing the pipe if I'm just going to ride it the next day anyway. Leave the "shiny new look" for the butt-jewelry trailer queen posuer set. FWIW, blue job and related can/do remove chrome with each application, and Savage chrome is already hyper-thin, soft, and low grade as is.
-WD

Title: Re: clean up blueing
Post by Odar on 05/26/05 at 02:40:43

Hi WD
I have tryed both Blue Away and Blue Job and all I can say is that BlueJob works very good, no scratches at all.
Blue away is more like Autosol it scratch the crome, not much but it scratch.
Go for the BlueJob!!!!
Odar

Title: Re: clean up blueing
Post by lancer on 05/26/05 at 06:35:33

tfrawg75 wrote:

The rule of thumb on pilot jet adjustments is when you reach 3 turns you need to step up to the next size. So if you are running a #52.5 now then go to a #55 and start with the screw back at the beginning and work your way out again. I have some #55's, so if you want one I will drop it in the mail. Email your address if you want one.

Title: Re: clean up blueing
Post by tfrawg75 on 05/26/05 at 08:36:05

sure that would be great. I went up to a 150 on the main should I go 0ne more on it also?

Title: Re: clean up blueing
Post by vroom1776 on 05/26/05 at 10:14:00

WD wrote:

Blue pipes equals ridden bike equals well loved bike (and in my particular case, substitute dirty bike for blue pipes). I refuse to waste time washing the bike or polishing the pipe if I'm just going to ride it the next day anyway. Leave the "shiny new look" for the butt-jewelry trailer queen posuer set.
-WD

The savage is a great bike to not wash. Mine is filthy as hell. I've taken to spraypainting over the dirt on it (in some spots) instead of cleaning it. And I haven't spraypainted over the yellow header on it either...

Title: Re: clean up blueing
Post by Ed_L. on 05/26/05 at 17:30:41

I've tried different types of polish including silver polish and aluminium polish trying to remove the blue with no luck. Ended up deciding that the gold and blue pipe makes the bike look good so am keeping it that way. Nice to have a bike that looks like it has been ridden, not just rolled out of the garage to show off. Always like a little bit of rat in everything I own, kind of personalizes the ride. Ed L.

Title: Re: clean up blueing
Post by steelers4ever on 05/26/05 at 18:22:24

have to agree Ed..i like the look of the gold pipe. It adds a bit of class to our rides!!

Title: Re: clean up blueing
Post by lancer on 05/26/05 at 18:49:56

Have you noticed lately that some of the mufflers or pipe tips on sale for cars have the blue/gold color already on them?

Title: Re: clean up blueing
Post by -=G-Star=- on 05/26/05 at 19:01:32

gazab44 wrote:

I got the blue job from here

http://bluejob.shop-utopia.com/

It would be more fun to the ask the girl behind the counter for it.

And, you never know...

Title: Re: clean up blueing
Post by -=G-Star=- on 05/26/05 at 19:02:58

tfrawg75 wrote:

Here's a prescription:
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=Market;action=display;num=1117080342

Title: Re: clean up blueing
Post by Savage_Rob on 05/27/05 at 06:28:06

tfrawg75 wrote:

You also have to be sure to clean off all skin oils after installation before heating it up. I made the mistake of not cleaning my MAC muffler thoroughly and can see where I didn't wipe it down well. I'm going to try the Blue-Job but am not all that concerned. So far as I'm concerned, it's just cosmetic.

Title: Re: clean up blueing
Post by tfrawg75 on 05/27/05 at 06:32:02

yeah, I agree but this is my first bike for a couple of years so I wipe it down everyday and wax and polish it once a week just want it to look good. Just the way I am LOL

Title: Re: clean up blueing
Post by Savage_Rob on 05/27/05 at 06:44:41

Pro Honda spray cleaner & polish is really great for daily wipedowns.

Title: Re: clean up blueing
Post by bobo383 on 05/28/05 at 08:19:40

While I had the pipes off, I used my 6" buffing wheel and white rouge. Worked fine. SOMEBODY will tell me I messed up the "finish", but I can't tell it.

I actually like the gold color on the head pipe, but the spot-blueing on the muff was kind of ugly. I don't care enough to polish the pipe with it on the bike, but if I have it off for some reason I will hit it with the 6" wheel and rouge. That lets me know how my jetting changes are working, if it blues right back up I'm too lean.

That's it, though, no hand-polishing. I have some blue-job if anybody wants it. Should be less than $5 for the postage. Too much work for this redneck.

Title: Re: clean up blueing
Post by tfrawg75 on 06/01/05 at 07:57:33

I'm interested in getting that stuff off of you let me know what needs to be done