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Message started by RocksimusMaximus on 08/08/05 at 11:17:53

Title: 500 mile checkup
Post by RocksimusMaximus on 08/08/05 at 11:17:53

So I just bought my bike a couple of weeks ago and am just about to hit the 500 mile mark. The dealer told me that it is important to get it checked out after that initial break in period. Which from what I've read on here seems to hold true. But here's my dilemma. The dealership is gonna charge me 150 bucks to do the checkup. Now I'm fairly handy with a wrench, but I've never worked on a bike before. I've kept a 1963 studebaker hawk running for the past 4 years (which is no small task), so I'm pretty sure I could handle most of what the bike can throw at me. Is it worth the 150 bucks to have a "proffessional" look at it... or should I just grab a Clymer shop manual and go for it?

Title: Re: 500 mile checkup
Post by vroom1776 on 08/08/05 at 13:22:20

If you have a warranty, it may be worth paying the dealership to do it.  If not, and you are comfortable with your skills, spend the money on chrome or beer. just my 2 cents, worth about 1/20th a cent.  Me, I'm cheap; the only thing I'll let the dealership do is put on a tire.

Title: Re: 500 mile checkup
Post by CHRIS on 08/08/05 at 17:35:09

The first one is very important!!! The main thing is changing the oil & filter, gets the metal and assembly oils out of the engine before they start working against it. Otherwise it's just checking valve clearance, belt condition and tightness, spokes for tightness, bolts torqued to proper specs., cable routing, fluid levels, tire wear for alignment issues, brake adjustment and visual check of pads, basically, things you should be doing ocassionally anyways. This is what I do for the first service at the dealership I work at. If you're handy with a wrench, taking it to the dealer is probably just putting money in their pocket.

Title: Re: 500 mile checkup
Post by slavy on 08/08/05 at 20:08:38

The first service is basicaly an oil change. The most complicated part is to check and adjust the valves. If You know how to do it, don't waste money. If You don't know how to adjust the valves, better lurn how, because there will be many valve checks and adjustments ahead.

Title: Re: 500 mile checkup
Post by rkutzner on 08/09/05 at 18:24:09

Take a few hours to take off the tank and adjust the valves.  After the first adjustment at 500 miles, I just did it again in an hour at 2000 miles......and will do it every 4000 miles from here on out.  That hour was 'taking my time'.  Here's what I can remember off the top of my head:

Remove seat (2 bolts on side, one in back)

Remove Gas line at petcock, rubber vacuum line from petcock at the other side of the bike, and the speedo connection at the crankcase.

Remove tank (2 bolts in back, one white connector up front....pull up in the back and slide back and to the left a hair.)

Remove Big Disk on left of crankcase (Big washer in a pair of vise grips works well).  Line up mark with notch in crankcase (at 3 oclock).    
Check if there is a gap at the valve adjustment spot, if not turn the engine over to 3 oclock again.

Remove access covers and anything else in way like that big rubber tube on the right side of the engine at the top.
Loosen nut with 10mm box end wrench
Hand snug the screw down on a .004 gapper
Tighten nut.
Do other 3.
Recheck.

Put back together.

Title: Re: 500 mile checkup
Post by Savage_Rob on 08/09/05 at 20:21:47

When turning the engine for TDCC, turn it in the normal direction of operation.  The Suzuki manual has the correct directions; the Clymer manual is backward.

Title: Re: 500 mile checkup
Post by rkutzner on 08/10/05 at 04:07:52

I believe you turn it clockwise,  can someone confirm as I don't have a manual and my 'other' Suzuki manual (Z400 sport quad) doesn't say what direction either.  I believe the the force needed to turn the motor is a lot less than the torque setting on that bolt so it probably doesn't really matter.  An easy way to tell with the cover off (remove plug boot) is to bump the motor.... ;)

Title: Re: 500 mile checkup
Post by Kropatchek on 08/10/05 at 04:27:32


rkutzner wrote:
I believe you turn it clockwise,  can someone confirm as I don't have a manual and my 'other' Suzuki manual (Z400 sport quad) doesn't say what direction either.  I believe the the force needed to turn the motor is a lot less than the torque setting on that bolt so it probably doesn't really matter.  An easy way to tell with the cover off (remove plug boot) is to bump the motor.... ;)


NO, the normal rotation is Anti-clockwise e.g. in the same direction as your wheels turn  when you'r  riding foreward.
What more can I say?

Greetz
Kropatchek ;D

Title: Re: 500 mile checkup
Post by GaThumper on 08/10/05 at 04:31:49


rkutzner wrote:
I believe you turn it clockwise,  can someone confirm as I don't have a manual and my 'other' Suzuki manual (Z400 sport quad) doesn't say what direction either.  I believe the the force needed to turn the motor is a lot less than the torque setting on that bolt so it probably doesn't really matter.  An easy way to tell with the cover off (remove plug boot) is to bump the motor.... ;)



You are on the left side of the motor, so turn it counterclockwise.  If in doubt, put it in 5th gear and rotate the tire in the direction it would turn if you were riding - counterclockwise from the left-hand side.


Title: Re: 500 mile checkup
Post by Savage_Rob on 08/10/05 at 05:41:21


Kropatchek wrote:


NO, the normal rotation is Anti-clockwise e.g. in the same direction as your wheels turn  when you'r  riding foreward.
What more can I say?

Greetz
Kropatchek ;D

I thought I said the same thing by specifying it should be turned in the normal direction of operation but I guess the normal direction of operation isn't as inherently obvious as I thought.  Kropatchek is correct.  If you are on the left/port side of the bike and facing the bike, you would rotate it counterclockwise (or anticlockwise in European parlance).  I believe another slightly more archaic/obscure term to describe the direction of rotation would be widdershins.

Rob

Title: Re: 500 mile checkup
Post by diesel on 08/10/05 at 22:38:13

what the H is widdershins??

Title: Re: 500 mile checkup
Post by Savage_Rob on 08/11/05 at 05:45:25


diesel wrote:
what the H is widdershins??

Widdershins is counterclockwise.
Deosil  is clockwise.

Title: Re: 500 mile checkup
Post by WD on 08/11/05 at 07:06:22

Could have sworn I was the only member of the SCA on here...
-WD

Title: Re: 500 mile checkup
Post by Savage_Rob on 08/11/05 at 07:29:51


WD wrote:
Could have sworn I was the only member of the SCA on here...
-WD

Hmmm, that's not where I learned it but I did participate in a few events with the Barony of the Western Seas when I was stationed on a ship out of Pearl Harbor.  There's nothing quite like a few rounds of clenchwench after a day of battle, is there?

Title: Re: 500 mile checkup
Post by rkutzner on 08/13/05 at 16:33:29


Boy, you go on vacation and everyone starts talking a different language... ;D

So, didja check the valves yet?

Title: Re: 500 mile checkup
Post by Paladin on 08/13/05 at 17:30:19


rkutzner wrote:

Boy, you go on vacation and everyone starts talking a different language... ;D


http://www.sca.org/

I would expect that the mindset that would accept the Savage would also tend toward SCA.    The Society for Creative Anachronism was, as far as I know, first mentioned in print in "The Warlock in Spite of Himself."  

it is best to back slowly away from SCA, it tends to alter one's thoughts and mode of attire.

Title: Re: 500 mile checkup
Post by WD on 08/13/05 at 19:24:42

It isn't just Savages you'll see at SCA events...

Lisa and I got married at an event. Legally. By a legally ordained pagan priest who happens to be a fullpatch Hell's Angel.

At least you (Paladin) live in Caid, the ONLY SCA kingdom where jousting is permitted (and encouraged, at least formerly).

I get SCA members into the shop all the time. Seems like they are drawn to bikes like flies are drawn to...um,  ::).

Been riding since July 1987 (on the street), Been in the Society since October 1991.

To get back on topic...naw, why bother? The subject's been covered.
-WD

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