|
SuzukiSavage.com
/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> Struts /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1123903000 Message started by jrm8486 on 08/12/05 at 20:16:40 |
|
Title: Struts Post by jrm8486 on 08/12/05 at 20:16:40 Has anyone tried this yet, I love these struts http://www.bikepics.com/members/choppacentral I wish I could make some like that I'm not that handy. Also wondering about the stress this would bring to the rest of the bike. |
|
Title: Re: Struts Post by sluggo on 08/12/05 at 20:50:38 doesn't anyone know how to crop pictures. :o this subject has been discussed at length just this past week. i'll do some pretty wild thing but not that one. the stress on the left shock mount would be great. look at the way it's welded on. it would need some major reinforcement. here's the link to the last discussion on 8.1.05 http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=RubberSideDown;action=display;num=1122911221 i know we live in a instant gratification society, and it's easy just to ask your question, but.....it would serve new members well to read back though the posts before asking, this as many of the questions here have been asked over and over again. each time that happens there are fewer and fewer responses. by reading back you will also get to "know" forum members and how they respond to different situations. max and greg are true wrentchers. paladin, savage rob are great concept guys, perry he's a great guy, me i'm either a smart arse, or the voice of reason, it just depends on the set up. gitarzan well what can you say, a true character. lancer, he really knows carbs and exhaust, that along with slavy, and clive, btw any body heard from clive recently. this is not meant to be harsh, more a gentle reminder. |
|
Title: Re: Struts Post by WD on 08/12/05 at 21:28:15 You forgot me...the resident HD a$$hole. ;D Who happens to have been building choppers for 18 years and has seen plenty of broken Japanese frames due to struts. The ONLY Japanese frame safe to run struts on is the CB750K, pre-1980. -WD |
|
Title: Re: Struts Post by sluggo on 08/12/05 at 21:49:40 WD wrote:
like all oscar acceptance speeches, someone gets forgotten. my apoligies.. :D |
|
Title: Re: Struts Post by jrm8486 on 08/13/05 at 05:47:09 I'm sorry that we are not all perfect like you. Just trying to be friendly and asking questions about some things. Don't need to be made to feel like a chump. This will be my last posting on this site. |
|
Title: Re: Struts Post by DavidV on 08/13/05 at 07:22:59 JRM - Don't let it bug you; stuff happens. You know that bikers aren't the most sensitive types...myself included, of course. Most folk's bark is worse than their bite. |
|
Title: Re: Struts Post by WD on 08/13/05 at 07:23:02 Nobody is trying to make you feel like a chump. Many of us started out on the Heise forum. Which is dead 90% of the time now. Over abundance of repeat questions eats so much bandwidth that his server probably locked the site down. Not surprising, the site started in 1998. And the attitudes over there from a couple of old codgers make Sluggo and Greg on a rant seem as nice as neophyte Brownie Scouts. As far as I go, I calls it like I sees it. Can you strut a Savage frame? Sure. Call me when the rear downtube shatters, I've got a fullsize truck and work at a bike junkyard. I can always use spare parts. Or adapt a Triumph/BSA/Norton or Sportster bolt-on hard tail kit and make a proper rigid out of it. Mmmm, chain driven rigid thumper...for a couple hundred bucks and 2 hours of tinkering. Almost makes me want to stay at the multi-brand shop instead of taking over the parts and service departments at a Harley shop...NOT. Come over to TheHorseMag dot com and ask your strut question. You'll get the same answer, but nowhere near as civilised a response. -WD |
|
Title: Re: Struts Post by sluggo on 08/13/05 at 12:52:18 jrm8486 wrote:
dude, if i was trying to make you feel like a chump i wouldn't have answered your question, and provide a link to past discussions. i was just stating a fact every time someone new asks a question that's been discussed over and over again it gets less responses, therefore you don't get all the answers you need. btw i am certainly not perfect, as a human i make mistakes every single day, and i can own up to them. |
|
Title: Re: Struts Post by mornhm on 08/13/05 at 12:58:07 Sluggo (and others), You might want to remind people anytime you suggest that they search the site to set their browser to search back further in time than the default. I've made the mistake of searching for things that I knew existed but couldn't find because I had the setting too recent. A lot of things happened in what is considered ancient history online. |
|
Title: Re: Struts Post by sluggo on 08/13/05 at 13:55:32 mornhm wrote:
your point, like the one on top of my head is valid. when i joined the fourm i physically went to back to the begining and read all the subjects, then i read all the posts that were of interest to me. it was time well spent as i learned alot about the machine and the people who were here. people come and go, but their thoughts are left behind. so an answer can come from someone who is no longer here, that and there's been some pretty intresting/funny conversations going down. |
|
Title: Re: Struts Post by Savage_Rob on 08/13/05 at 15:56:33 jrm8486 wrote:
Hmm, the owner needs to fix the head seal/plug leak. |
|
Title: Re: Struts Post by mikedasavage on 08/13/05 at 22:02:32 is he really not going to post on this site anymore? bud if someone offends you stick up for yourself dont cry and run off. I think you have lots of good opinions and a really nice bike. but you gotta be a little more thick skinned around a bunch of bikers ;D i really hope you read this and continue posting. |
|
Title: Re: Struts Post by Savage_Rob on 08/13/05 at 22:34:36 I dunno what it is. I've seen it a few times where folks take things personally that I wouldn't have. Maybe it's just me. Anyway, I'd prefer they go somewhere and cool off and then come back to the site. If they just can't see their way to come back, it's probably for the best for all concerned. The animosity, while mildly amusing sometimes in the near-term, is really not all that much fun in the long run. Now, the struts. They do look cool but I really like my spine intact. If you have to, be sure to get a good springer seat first. Best of luck! |
|
Title: Re: Struts Post by PerrydaSavage on 08/14/05 at 02:49:00 That's a fine looking LS Custom to be sure ... but my poor old deteriorated L3 lumbar winces just lookin' at those struts ... if t'was my bike, a nice set of blacked out rear shocks would replace those struts ... |
|
Title: Re: Struts Post by bobo383 on 08/14/05 at 11:45:37 WD wrote:
Yup. FAR less civilized, but that's why I like it. |
|
Title: Re: Struts Post by methom on 08/14/05 at 17:17:11 I've participated in many forums on a lot of topics besides bikes, and I hear the guy's point. Sure we need to take a deep breath when a newbie asks an old question (I'm as green as they come to this "community"), but what the hell, how long does it take to answer it? There was another post about how "patient" an experienced rider would be with a newbie rider...can't we do the same on forums? This seems like a great site for people devoted to what is frankly a marginal ride, and I like it and hope that it can stay pretty mellow. Hell, I was ready to junk my 2000 for an HD Wide Glide, but I'm pretty stoked by all the suggestions that I've found here. HD will have to wait a few more years for my $$. Live and let live and let's ride. |
|
Title: Re: Struts Post by Paladin on 08/14/05 at 17:52:49 "If you can't say something nice... don't say nothing at all." It takes less effort to ignore than it does to tell someone that they could have searched for the answer. If you don't want to answer someone then don't. Someone else will. |
|
Title: Re: Struts Post by mikedasavage on 08/14/05 at 18:40:22 ya i agree with good ole thumper :D . Although i dont think the comment was offensive or reason for him to stop posting i think if someone is going to make a comment that might make someone feel dumb why not send a private message. It doesn't really matter though i just think the kid should have been more thick skinned and should continue posting. but o well |
|
Title: Re: Struts Post by threezukes on 08/14/05 at 19:53:13 I just don't see the purpose of taking off the shocks and replacing them with metal bars, is it suppose to give it the look of a hardtail? I think hardtails are cool, but I like them because of the clean look of the frame, just putting on some metal bars doesn't seem to make that much of a difference to me. |
|
Title: Re: Struts Post by Jim_R on 08/14/05 at 20:45:23 yeah I agree with paladin too. I have searched this site on many of my problems and although I didnt feel WD's comment offensive, there is no such thing as a dumb question. If a topic has been covered a hundred times dont reply. Like an old wise man once said if I wanted to talk to a butthole I would have farted :P |
|
Title: Re: Struts Post by sluggo on 08/14/05 at 22:35:31 Jim_R wrote:
here's my follow up. if you read my original post, you will see that i did answer the question. i did provide a link to the discussion that had taken place just a few days before. i don't feel there are dumb questions, yet in this case if he had taken just a little time to look around he would see the subject was just discussed, and could have added his post to that. my point was then and is now, if new people "read" not just search, they will find a wealth of information from people who are no longer here, and they get to "know" the people at the party. is that so bad? it may take a little time yet worth the effort. " If a topic has been covered a hundred times dont reply. " your quote proved my point, the poster then wouldn't recieve the benifit of "all" the knowledge on the subject. or possibly get the one piece of info he needs to solve the problem. thats not good either. so we answer over and over, and remind people that there is more information available, that is if they take the time to do a little homework. really it's not like i said "go look for yourself" which would have been meant to make him feel like a chump, that was not my intention. |
|
Title: Re: Struts Post by Paladin on 08/15/05 at 05:16:04 My bad. Reading back you did answer by pointing out that the answer was recently available. And it's a two-way street, "if you can't say something nice" applies to "I'm sorry that we are not all perfect like you." Which leads to other quotes such "I'd like to help you out, which way did you come in?" As to the purpose of struts, it is to immobilize the rear suspension. I think that is to allow the use of a larger tire without it rubbing when the rear end bottoms out. I know that while rigid frames are a chopper standard, people make big money hiding suspension in what appears to be a rigid. Amen came out with their Saviour Frame several decades ago and are still making them. |
|
Title: Re: Struts Post by sluggo on 08/15/05 at 07:56:04 Paladin wrote:
or one of my personal favorites. i'm glad to see your back, especially after seeing your front. now, if you are looking for a good come back to f. u. here it is.. "it wouldn't be any fun, i'd just lay there" ;D |
|
Title: Re: Struts Post by mornhm on 08/15/05 at 08:57:47 Paladin wrote: Quote:
I would prefer that someone answer the question rather than ignoring the post. Putting in references to previous threads makes the answer more complete. Another suggestion that I have would be to remember that even in this day and age not everyone has lots of experience on-line and with forums and may not know how they work (or that this one works a little different than others :D ) A little explanation and direction (such as the suggestion to read through the site) will also make the answer better imho. Maybe reading posts several times before responding would also be a good idea. I know when I first read sluggo's reply I thought it was a little harsh, but after reading it again, I noticed (ignoring the first comment about cropping ::) ) that he a) answered the question, b) gave a reference to the previous thread c) made the suggestion to do a little more work before posting questions d) sort of apologized for the suggestion. |
|
SuzukiSavage.com » Powered by YaBB 2.2! YaBB © 2000-2007. All Rights Reserved. |