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Message started by Jesse Cremeans on 02/16/06 at 17:53:23

Title: where to buy carburator rebuild kit?
Post by Jesse Cremeans on 02/16/06 at 17:53:23

someone mentioned that since my 87 carb has sat on the bike unused for atleast 6 years, that i should buy a "carburator rebuild kit" that includes all new gaskets? Any advice on htis? and if this is what i should do, where do i buy them and how much will it cost me?

I have cleaned the carb, but it may still have issues..

Title: Re: where to buy carburator rebuild kit?
Post by Jim_R on 02/16/06 at 19:05:21

goto a site like bikebandit.com or ronayers.com

and pay like $386

13200-24B01 - CARBURETOR ASSY

Part Number: 13200-24B01
Description: CARBURETOR ASSY
Source: SUZUKI
Price: $386.28

or
buy a used carb on ebay

Title: Re: where to buy carburator rebuild kit?
Post by babbalou on 02/16/06 at 19:46:35

If you've cleaned all the jets & bleedholes, the float level setting is correct & the float valve moves freely & isn't rounded off at the tip, I wouldn't spend any money on it yet. If it doesn't leak & runs OK I wouldn't worry about it. Might just need a float bowl gasket, maybe nothing. Good luck with it.

Title: Re: where to buy carburator rebuild kit?
Post by Jesse Cremeans on 02/16/06 at 19:49:54

how do i properly clean the jets and bleed holes, im going to attempt a thorough cleaning before i put it back on the bike.

also, no leaks and float doesn't stick and i believe its not rounded off.

Title: Re: where to buy carburator rebuild kit?
Post by babbalou on 02/16/06 at 20:02:43

A Clymer manual helps a lot for that. When I had mine off last year, I just looked it over & everywhere I saw a pinhole I made sure it wasn't plugged up. Poked through them all with a tiny straight pin. Then took out the jets & looked through them. Check in the Tech section & you'll see some good pics & info on the carb.

Title: Re: where to buy carburator rebuild kit?
Post by lancer on 02/16/06 at 21:03:40

Get a large can of carb cleaner and submerge the carb in it for a couple of days. When you take it out completely disassemble it and blow all of the passages out with compressed air. If no air, then at least use some aerosol cans of carb cleaner. Be very careful when taking it apart and try to save all gaskets, note where all parts go and which way they go...make notes and drawings and lay parts out in order of disassembly. It is good to have a magnifier to see the small things and inspect everything.

Give it a try, if nothing else it will be a great learning experience. With a little practice you will be able to disassemble and reassemble a carb in about 5 minutes.

If you want modification tips we can do that as well.

Title: Re: where to buy carburator rebuild kit?
Post by Jesse Cremeans on 02/17/06 at 04:57:11

i was told that since my carb is from an 87 i shouldnt modify? any advice lancer?

Title: Re: where to buy carburator rebuild kit?
Post by lancer on 02/17/06 at 09:24:32

Anything can be modified, and I do not see why an '87 model carb should be any different. Those early model years did not come from the factory tuned quite as lean as the '95 and on model years, but there is still room for improvement...especially if the exhaust has been changed. A muffler swap changes the the fuel/air ratio, and that is compensated for by adjusting the carb/filter side of things in order to bring the fuel/air ratio back to where it should be.

Go back to the basics of carb tuning, follow the steps for tuning/adjusting each of the fuel circuits...choke/idle, low range (pilot circuit), midrange (jet needle/needle jet), and high range (main jet), and as you go through the process be sure to check the plug for the evidence of what is going on inside the engine.

While going through the process and checking the performance with various sized jets, you will find the best jetting for each range, and therefore the best performance . This is a time comsuming process, so be patient.

For a CV type carb there are some additional performance inhancements that can be made to the carb. One is to enlarge the air passage in the bottom of the carb slide, this will quicken the response time when the throttle is turned. It does not take much, so you need to be careful with this one. I do not remember the exact measurements on the stock carb, so that would need to be measured with a caliper or even a drill bit.
For example: if the hole is 1.5mm, then you might go up to 1.6mm.
Also, the dial-a-jet system is an excellent performance add-on (can be picked up for cheap on ebay)...but since they do not make the float bowl adapter for the stock Savage carb you will have to drill & tap into the side of the bowl to get the fuel source. It is easy to do and works just fine. The dial-a-jet works from 1/4 to full throttle, so the idle and pilot circuit still need to be done.
Also, the slide spring can be changed to improve throttle response.

**Keep in mind though, that with all the things that can be done to improve a CV carb, it has limitations because of its basic design. There is no way it will perform like a carb designed/built for performance from the get-go.

SO..... What do you want? If on a budget and needing to use the stock carb, then get some jets, drill a little hole, make sure everything is VERY CLEAN, and go through the tunig steps...put on good air filter..and/or get cheap dial-a-jet on ebay.
If you have more money available...buy a new performance carb.

Just a few ideas...take what you want out of it.

Title: Re: where to buy carburator rebuild kit?
Post by vroom1776 on 02/17/06 at 09:28:42

you can get the float bowl gasket from a suzuki dealership. they are cheap, like $5.

or get some uncolored posterboard, trace out your old one, and cut.

Title: Re: where to buy carburator rebuild kit?
Post by Jesse on 02/17/06 at 12:58:31

ok i follow you guys so far.. here is where my inexperience comes in.. when you tell me to check the plug, what exactly am i looking for.. too much gas on the tip etc.?

Title: Re: where to buy carburator rebuild kit?
Post by Savage_Rob on 02/17/06 at 13:57:24

Jesse wrote:

ok i follow you guys so far.. here is where my inexperience comes in.. when you tell me to check the plug, what exactly am i looking for.. too much gas on the tip etc.?

Check out the Reading Spark Plugs thread in the Tech Reference forum.