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Message started by Kent on 04/20/06 at 19:20:50

Title: Post Valve Adjust Question
Post by Kent on 04/20/06 at 19:20:50

Recently did a valve adjustment.  Afterward I heard more tapping than before, but have always heard "a tappy valve is a happy valve."  However, even for a thumper, the bike used to have a throatier, manly, sound.  Now, it's very much more treble.  Is that to be expected?   Will the sound deepen as the valves tighten up?  Or is the change in sound totally unrelated?

And ideas?

Title: Re: Post Valve Adjust Question
Post by Reelthing on 04/20/06 at 19:56:41


Kent wrote:
Recently did a valve adjustment.  Afterward I heard more tapping than before, but have always heard "a tappy valve is a happy valve."  However, even for a thumper, the bike used to have a throatier, manly, sound.  Now, it's very much more treble.  Is that to be expected?   Will the sound deepen as the valves tighten up?  Or is the change in sound totally unrelated?

And ideas?


Not really - correct set valves make a little tap'n but not very much.

are you real sure you got the clearence correct?

what do you mean by "as the valves tighten up" - on this engine they get looser not tighter over time like a shim'd valve.  


Title: Re: Post Valve Adjust Question
Post by Savage_Rob on 04/20/06 at 21:08:41

Also that it was at TDCC.

Title: Re: Post Valve Adjust Question
Post by Kent on 04/20/06 at 22:50:20

1. I'm very sure the adjustment is correct.  
2. On my inline 4 cylinder, the tappets tighten over time, I wasn't aware this engine was different.  Dangit!
3. I'm wondering, I just added a windshield.  Maybe that is routing the noise upward instead of dispersing it like before.  Maybe it's all my imagination.

All I know is when I was testing it, my wife said "why does my bike sound like a girl?"  

Argh!  But at least the oil leak is gone.

Title: Re: Post Valve Adjust Question
Post by Kropatchek on 04/21/06 at 01:58:28


Kent wrote:
3. I'm wondering, I just added a windshield.  Maybe that is routing the noise upward instead of dispersing it like before.  Maybe it's all my imagination.

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The motor makes a different sound with windshield on and off , my experience.

And as general remark: was the engine at TDC in the compression stroke?

I use a feelergauge 0.005" for in- and exhaust, works for me.

Greetz
Kropatchek ;D


Title: Re: Post Valve Adjust Question
Post by Kent on 04/21/06 at 17:22:43

It was either at TDC or BDC, LOL!!!  I'm sure I had it right.  It runs fine, just sounds funny.

Title: Re: Post Valve Adjust Question
Post by red2k1 on 04/21/06 at 19:22:07

Just adjusted the valves on my '02 and the exhaust note is definitely higher.

Title: Re: Post Valve Adjust Question
Post by babbalou on 04/21/06 at 19:22:19

My S40 sounded a little different with the windshield on too. Might be that.

Title: Re: Post Valve Adjust Question
Post by Savage_Rob on 04/23/06 at 00:32:35

The only reason I mentioned TDCC (not TDC) is that the first time I adjusted mine, I had think I had it at TDC but not on the compression stroke as the existing gaps didn't seem right.  Fortunately it was pointed out to me that it must be TDCC and I readjusted before running it.  The only reason I hadn't run it by then was that I'd done the plug fix and snapped off a bolt and hadn't received its replacement yet.  Anyway, as long as you're sure it was on the compression stroke, cool.  I just thought I'd mention it.

Title: Re: Post Valve Adjust Question
Post by Kent on 04/23/06 at 17:39:45

I used the manual and lined up the mark as it showed.  Should that be enough to get it TDCC?

Title: Re: Post Valve Adjust Question
Post by diesel on 04/23/06 at 21:47:42

NO

Title: Re: Post Valve Adjust Question
Post by Kropatchek on 04/24/06 at 03:35:44


diesel wrote:
NO


That's not enough.

Check the rockers have play ( meaning both inlet- and exhaust valves are closed).

Greetz
Kropatchek ;D

Title: Re: Post Valve Adjust Question
Post by Savage_Rob on 04/24/06 at 06:44:20


Kropatchek wrote:
Check the rockers have play ( meaning both inlet- and exhaust valves are closed).

Absolutely.

I also liked the idea of using a piece of wooden dowel inserted into the sparkplug hole to help you see when the cylinder is rising and then aligning the timing mark in concert with that.  I haven't done it yet but I plan to then next time I adjust the valves.

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