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Message started by Aviler on 06/16/06 at 06:30:04

Title: Push start.
Post by Aviler on 06/16/06 at 06:30:04

Well, yesterday I got to get first-hand experince with push starting a Savage. Turned key to park position instead of off for my 10 hour work shift :). Not real hard to push start, though, so didn't turn out too badly.

Title: Re: Push start.
Post by vroom1776 on 06/16/06 at 08:26:28

I've only had success doing that once.

Title: Re: Push start.
Post by DaddySauce on 06/16/06 at 11:17:00

I made that key positioning problem as well... but I had a brain fart and still rode the bike to work thinking "Oh, battery will be charged by then!".... NOT! :P

Title: Re: Push start.
Post by Jagndeke on 06/16/06 at 17:12:02

Aviler wrote:

Turned key to park position instead of off for my 10 hour work shift :).

Don't want to threadjack here or anything but your comment got me thinking. I have no idea what the park position on the ignition is for. Anyone help me out with an explanation?

Title: Re: Push start.
Post by Aviler on 06/16/06 at 17:19:03

No problem. My thought would be, and I don't know if this is correct or not, is that it is kinda like hazard lights on a car. If you are stopped by a road and want to give drivers a chance to notice you before they hit you, you flip it into the parking light position. Tail light and license plate light stay on. Headlight goes off.

Title: Re: Push start.
Post by Keith_B on 06/16/06 at 20:18:09

YEP!

Title: Re: Push start.
Post by GaThumper on 06/19/06 at 11:01:43

I've had to roll mine off once, but I have a steep driveway & gravity did all the work :-)

Title: Re: Push start.
Post by necropsy on 06/19/06 at 11:52:13

Aviler wrote:

The S40 has hazard lights for what you described.
The parking light is for parking in or at the end of a driveway, so other vehicles don't smash into you as they pull in.

Title: Re: Push start.
Post by savage777 on 06/21/06 at 17:37:24

Before I got a new battery not too long ago i had to "pop" start mine every morning before work...... If you put it into 2 nd gear and then push it backwards until you reach top dead center it makes it alot easier to start... I think there were a few threads about this before.

Title: Re: Push start.
Post by Chench53 on 06/28/06 at 05:43:10

A few weeks back I had the bike in for service, and they didn't tighten the battery screw enough. I got to work, but dead at night, so two fellas pushed me, but it didn't turn over, but the motion was enough to make the battery contact and I saw the green neutral light come on. BUT, by now, I'm rolling into the intersection and slowing down, so I "Fred Flinstone-power walked" it, pulled in the clutch and pushed the starter button and it started.

Not a true push start, but I was amazed at how easy it was to get motion going with my feet. Those first few feet are slow, but once you're moving, it seems to get really easy. :)

Gerry

Title: Re: Push start.
Post by loopedguru on 06/28/06 at 09:11:39

Ok,

This topic is just the one I needed to see today. Being the newbie that I am I have a couple of questions on this topic and it is quite relevant today since I rode the bike into work and I am experiencing issues.

1) Does the battery being just about dead from the parking lights being left on cause you to sputter and lose power in lower gears?

2) I've gotten it to push start twice, but not sure if I was just lucky? What is the step by step method for push starting since I might have to do so to get home today.

3) Will the loose battery connector cuase the sputtering as well? I tipped the bike to the right and the power came on so wondering if this is actually a loose connector issue instead of battery charge issue. Also will the loose connector cause sputtering and loss of power during riding as well?

4)Does anyone on here have the Clymers manual in PDF or Word format so I can load it onto my pocket PC for easy reference while stuck (like I might be today)?

I appreciate any and everyones help with these questions!!!

Title: Re: Push start.
Post by DaddySauce on 06/28/06 at 10:03:34

Lesson #1:
There is a section on the forum called Technical Reference/Documents. Check it out cuz it will help in some of your problems.
In fact... here is a link to the 2002 Savage manual thread... http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1138554254

Lesson #2:
If you have a loose connector, fix that first. If you aren't sure, start wiggling some wires and see what you find. Kinda sux, but it's a free fix.

Lesson #3:
I have no idea if it will cause sputtering in only lower gears. May be something other than a loose connection.

Lesson #4:

Quote:

Start with that... make sure the bike ignition is "on", hold the clutch and push away till it's fast enough... pop the clutch and hang on. ;D

Title: Re: Push start.
Post by loopedguru on 06/28/06 at 12:23:51

Sorry,

Wrote those questions while multi-tasking. I've done some searching and probably loose connectiona is the best place to start. I also bought a trickle charger, so will be utilizing it this evening. The power loss at low speeds was an incorrect statement. It's just that I was on the surface roads, so it's probably happening at higher speeds as well.

Thanks for the link to the OM. That will be quite helpful when I step outside later. Hehe, especially since I don't even know how to take off the seat to check the wires.

:-/

Title: Re: Push start.
Post by loopedguru on 07/02/06 at 07:14:37

Update -

Neutral battery connector. Looks like the previous owner stripped the screw hole, not totally but there is a lil gap there. So I'll have to either use a lil brainwork to (fill in the gap) or by a new cable. How much are Neutral cables for the savage?