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Message started by steelwolf on 08/04/06 at 16:18:16

Title: The unthinkable
Post by steelwolf on 08/04/06 at 16:18:16

After the first of the year I will be purchasing a HD and though I do not want to I may need to trade in the Suzi to get the one I really want. I know, how dare I! Like I said I don't want to. Anyhow, the reason I am bringing this to the board is this. Would it be worth the time and effort to put the Savage back to stock "visually" before going for the trade or will the HD creeps even care? I just want to get maximum trade for the ole girl should the need arise. What cha think? ???

Title: Re: The unthinkable
Post by Reelthing on 08/04/06 at 16:33:01

Might bring more if you point out the "custom" features as no doubt they'll be trying to sell you on the idea that "custom" features are better - looks like trade in is around 1200 and retail around 1900 depending on where you live and such according to www.kbb.com - might should try to sell it out right

Title: Re: The unthinkable
Post by thumperclone on 08/04/06 at 16:37:35

if some of your visual mods are in sellable condition your trade in value wont be affected if you remove them and
sell them, you may be a few $ ahead..your trade in value will be lowest dealer can get away with..good luck
btw get a beemer :o

Title: Re: The unthinkable
Post by Brewbrother on 08/04/06 at 19:18:51

IMHO, sell the bike on your own. If you need the money for the HD deal, it should be in hand. Just my $.02.

Title: Re: The unthinkable
Post by enophile on 08/04/06 at 20:04:30

Why a Harley? I'm just curious, not criticizing.

I agree with others that it is better to sell than trade in. However there are advantages to the trade-in such as convenience. And if that is the route you choose then I would take it back to stock as much as possible and sell your aftermarket parts for some extra cash.

Title: Re: The unthinkable
Post by Paladin on 08/04/06 at 20:28:04

steelwolf wrote:

After the first of the year I will be purchasing a HD and though I do not want to I may need to trade in the Suzi....

If you can, keep if for the short in-city runs, assuming you are not rural. From what I've read by those with multiple bikes, the Savage is hard to match for those quick hops. Otherwise, your Suzi is a very fine looking bike. Dealer has to make a profit and will offer you considerably less than you could get selling it yourself.

So let's get to the fun part -- which Harley are you looking at? New?

Title: Re: The unthinkable
Post by Reelthing on 08/04/06 at 20:34:20

nightrod maybe ? - kinda like those

Title: Re: The unthinkable
Post by theikeman on 08/04/06 at 20:41:28

Never trade your bike to a dealer, especially one who does not sell that brand. I spent 30 years in the car business, believe me I know how it all works. If you do not want to keep your Savage, either put it up on the board, list it on ebay or put it on Craiglist. You will get much more than you will get from the Harley dealer. I recently bought a 1995 Shadow VKLX Deluxe from my local Harley dealer off the back lot for 1500.00 (do you think they lost money on that???). Go see what they're doing on ebay. Put the extra cash in your pocket, Harley dealers make plenty already.
FYI
Ike

Title: Re: The unthinkable
Post by lancer on 08/04/06 at 20:43:45

If you have time before purchase of the HD, I would definitely try to sell it myself, you will get much more $$ for it that way. It can't hurt to try. You may end up ahead.

Title: Re: The unthinkable
Post by steelwolf on 08/05/06 at 05:02:50

I appreciate all the responses guys, thnx. I would like to point out that I am in no way abandoning you guys. I want to keep my little baby. I was just curious how much if any the trade in value would be affected by the aftermarket stuff because I was considering getting rid of all my OEM parts that have been removed from the bike. The HD guys are only getting the bike if there is no other way!. I just want 2 bikes. Why a Harley? It's just something I've always wanted and never had the oportunity to have till now. I Like the new bikes but they come with nothing. For the same money I can get a used bike with lots of extras. Many times with a partial warranty still intact. As far as the model? Not really sure yet. I really like the Wide Glides and the 1200 Sportys. Oh and if I sell it outright, It would most definatly be offered to my friends here first. ;D

Title: Re: The unthinkable
Post by azjay on 08/05/06 at 06:25:52

i cant say as i blaim you for wanting HD, i LOVE mine! i ride it to work daily (6mi @ way), i use it for every trip for every reason. i ride debby's suzi when i have the HD down for maintenance. a 22yr old police bike requires some attention after 100k+ miles :o most of the big maintenance issues have been addressed, clutch, sprockets, chains, wheel bearings, tires, etc. the custom paint didn't set properly, so eventually it'll have to get some down time for that,,,again :'(
mine is an '84 fxrp(p=police) which is more like the savage/sportster than a bagger, 19" front wheel, wide glide front end, dual disc front brakes, single disc rear, 80 ci (1340cc) motor, 5spd. big motor, small bike, great combo ;D :o

Title: Re: The unthinkable
Post by Paladin on 08/05/06 at 06:49:46

steelwolf wrote:

I just want 2 bikes...
I really like the Wide Glides and the 1200 Sportys....

I WANT quite a few more than just two bikes. Bikes are like guns -- each has a particular purpose it is best suited for at at which it does far better than other bikes. For ripping around in the urban setting it is difficult to match the Savage. While capable, the highway is not the Savage's forte.

Between the Dana Wide Glide and the 1200 Sportster:
http://www.powersportsnetwork.com/enthusiasts/new_vehicle_compare.asp?vehicle2=38777&year1=2007&mfg1=5&vehicle1=38783&go2=Go

IMHO, the Sportster is a compromise between the highway cruisin' Wide Glide and the urban scootin' Savage -- if you can only have one bike and were going to do a fair amount of highway you might consider a sporty. You're only young once. Sitting in your golden years, reminiscencing your life, you will regret adventures not taken more than any bad experience you may have on those adventures.

Title: Re: The unthinkable
Post by Guido on 08/05/06 at 08:15:21

That new "Street Bob" is pretty sweet. Kinda resembles a Savage on steroids! That would be my choice.

Title: Re: The unthinkable
Post by thumperclone on 08/05/06 at 08:37:50

Paladin wrote:

" he who dies with most toys wins" ::) got three in the stable always lookin...

Title: Re: The unthinkable
Post by lancer on 08/05/06 at 10:19:37

If I had the money in my pocket right now I would go to the Harley dealer right now ... well I would need to put my riding clothes on first ... and buy the 1200 sporty with the dual plug heads, perf cam and upgraded suspension. I have wanted one of those for some time now. The Savage stays here too, no trade or sale for it ... "Rex" is a member of the family.

Title: Re: The unthinkable
Post by babbalou on 08/05/06 at 11:17:03

I really like the Sportster 1200 Roadster.http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/2007_Motorcycles/2007_Motorcycles.jsp?swfsection=family&swffamily=sp&locale=en_US
I'd love to keep my S40 forever but my one income budget won't allow 2 bikes & someday (about 5 years?) I'll be moving on. Triumph, Sportster, I dunno.

Title: Re: The unthinkable
Post by torque on 08/05/06 at 15:27:04

i love riding my dads 1200c sporty, it has plenty of power.but it has nothing power wise on my yammy fz6 ;)but it way faster than the savage

Title: Re: The unthinkable
Post by WD on 08/06/06 at 00:47:49

Don't feel bad. I've been looking at a 1999 FXSTB custom we have on the lot. It is almost a decent bike (needs a seat and some real bars, I loathe drag bars). 103 cubic inch stroker engine. But, I don't think it is worth $10.4K, even if it does have only 8200 miles on it...

I did just miss out on a FREE 74 inch Shovelhead...

Oh well, the Vulcan as a daily rider and the Savage as my weekend toy will just have to suffice for now...at least until I stumble on a UL/VL big twin flathead or Indian Chief flathead, for a good price (mechanically/cosmetically fubar and dirt cheap, like basically "get that pile of scrap out of my yard" cheap).

I grew up riding OLD American iron...and HD went out of business in 1964. The Twinkie (twin cam) is a Kawasaki design.
-WD

Title: Re: The unthinkable
Post by azjay on 08/06/06 at 07:45:07

steelwolf, i just read through the posts again, everybody i know that bought a sporty, has upgraded to a big twin with in a year or two. if it were me, i'd ride away on the wide glide. do it once, and be done with it.

wd, a friend of mine has a '47 indian, in a basket, he has had longer than anybody can remember, i've been trying to capture it from him for years. i can appreciate your desires.

Title: Re: The unthinkable
Post by Keith_B on 08/06/06 at 14:58:14

:-/ WD, are you on the Vulcan site also?

Title: Re: The unthinkable
Post by bikingb on 08/06/06 at 17:12:34

I've been jonesin' for a hertitage softtail, maybe a sportster. I've heard the same thing that almost everyone that gets a sportster upgrades very soon. Maybe it is just the culture of bigger is better.

Title: Re: The unthinkable
Post by WD on 08/06/06 at 22:55:36

I'm on one of the Kawi boards, Beartooth's. I'm also on The Horse Backstreet Choppers, and occasionally Intruder Alert (where Intrud'n and Polar Pilot from the Heise site hang out occasionally. Oh, Intrud'n sold out and bought an HD by the way, Polar Pilot a 1400 Intruder).
-WD/Scruffy/LSBobber

Title: Re: The unthinkable
Post by azjay on 08/07/06 at 09:19:12

bikingb wrote:

I've been jonesin' for a hertitage softtail, maybe a sportster.

we have a lady rider friend who rode a sporty a few years ago when HD had a deal, you buy a sporty..ride it two years.. and move to a big twin free. she hated the sportster! it's light weight made the clutch and brakes very sensitive, it's tall stance made it difficult for her at stops, the higher center of gravity made it less neutral handling and more sport oriented. the small fuel capacity made longer road trips a drag, (stopping every 75-100 miles). when she moved to a softail lowered 2", she was a lot more comfortable with the package. the increased weight seemed to be less of an issue than all the sporty negatives. although the lower price of the sportster sure makes them inviting, when we move debby, it will be directly to a lowered softail.

Title: Re: The unthinkable
Post by vroom1776 on 08/07/06 at 09:20:30

Aftermarket mods and parts are worth pretty much zero on a trade in, or even a dealership selling a used bike. decent pipe MAY help but that's about it.

The street bob: I was down at the local HD place this weekend, amongst others. One salesman there, who I know a bit, Stu, told me the street bobs are more or less junk. He said "Buy a wide glide and be done w/ it. Most people who buy them like the $13k price tag, but then go drop another $3k on forward controls and a wide glide kit." With sturgis comming up/happening, he also was down to about 2/5 of his normal inventory. People were showing up and needed a new bike NOW!

Stu: "Do you care how much you pay?"
Customer: "No."
Stu: "You came to the right place!"

Title: Re: The unthinkable
Post by eglidegirl on 08/07/06 at 11:00:21

FWIW - Everyone I've talked to who has a "Skirtster", isn't completely happy with it. They say it's very top-heavy and you really feel the weight in corners, like it's gonna topple, and some of them have done just that. Given a choice, I'd LOVE to have a Heritage Softail! But alas, we already have 3 HD's (an 04 Electraglide FLHTI, a 74 FLH Shovel and a 72 Sporty). When I'm ready to move off the S40, I'll be hoppin on the Shovel!