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Title: Take care out there ! Post by DangMan on 08/19/06 at 00:54:19 I just stumbled over this site, just wanted to share it with you ppl ! http://home1.gte.net/res0ak9f/bike.htm Take care out there :-/ Dont look at this page if you cant stand grapich material. |
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Title: Re: Take care out there ! Post by steelwolf on 08/19/06 at 05:20:53 DangMan wrote:
Ride to Die . com WARNING! Don't look at this site if you can't stand VERY VERY graphic material. I found this site 2 weeks after I bought my Savage. I almost sold it the next day. Then I realized that I wasn't going to live by the mistakes of others. I have control over how I ride and as far as "the other guy", well even if I was in a semi I could possibly be killed by some nut in a cage. |
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Title: Re: Take care out there ! Post by Island_Biker on 08/19/06 at 07:34:17 What the stats don't separate out are the crashes by the squids and the crashes by more cautious drivers. It is very difficult, if not impossible to avoid everyone who is aiming for you, but driving cautiously definately helps. Perhaps it's time for a campaign to educate cagers about motorcylists. Most of us aren't outlaws or squids, were just average people commuting or out for a spin. Our deaths count too. |
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Title: Re: Take care out there ! Post by babbalou on 08/19/06 at 09:06:06 Lots of crazy drivers out there. Maybe I'm getting old but I'm beginning to wonder how any rider can safely use 160+ horsepower on the street too. Anyway, I've been putting off my last piece of safety gear but I think I'll get it today. Looking for protective pants with armored knees & shins that won't feel like sandwich wrap in the summer. Any recommendations? Ride safe. |
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Title: Re: Take care out there ! Post by DangMan on 08/19/06 at 10:14:01 Ill admit that that site made me choke a little, but ill "use" it to remind myself to ride more safe ! All cage drivers should be "forced" to ride a mc for a period, then they might have more understanding and look a little better ! |
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Title: Re: Take care out there ! Post by Paladin on 08/19/06 at 10:31:38 That site is 99.94% pure Bandini Mountain. It blends out of context statistics with "well DUH" to build an extremely biased picture. As to the statistics: http://www.dslretorts.com/Paladin/archives/000840.html Per mile, on AVERAGE, a motorcycle is three and a quarter times more likely to be involved in an accident than a cage. But those who ride are not the same people as the average cage driver. They tend to be risk takers. Plus, at an annual 1,854 miles, they are not getting in enough practice to be proficient riders. Alcohol and excessive speed on the part of the motorcyclist is a factor in the vast majority of motorcycle accidents. If you want to convince me that motorcycles are involved in an excessive number of crashes then show me the statistics for comparable cages -- high performance sport cars, Corvettes or such. As for the DUH part -- IF you have an accident of course you are going to suffer greater injuries than in a cage. This is why I tell people that if they have a record of crashing into things with a cage they might want to reconsider getting a motorcycle. I have an extreme dislike for liars. There are three types of lies -- lies, darned lies, and statistics. This site is in the third class. They cite: "In Florida, for example, fatalities increased by 81% during a three-year period after the state repealed its law in 2000. " Hey, guess what -- motorcycle ridership jumped by about 80%. This is another "Well DUH!" If ridership jumps 80% then of course fatalities will also jump 80%. "An unhelmeted rider is far more likely to suffer a fatal head injury" Well DUH! What is the fatality rate, per mile, between helmeted and unhelmeted riders? Hey, guess what -- they don't say! Just more meaningless out-of-context statictics. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Yes, you need to take care out there. But you also need sites such as this one which warps statistics in an effort to show that motorcycles are far more dangerous than they actually are. Yeah, a LOT of blood and gore. But without knowing what the rider was doing to get into the accident it is meaningless. If the rider was doing something I don't do then I do not carethat they got killed -- their death does not mean I am at any risk whatsoever. |
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Title: Re: Take care out there ! Post by steelwolf on 08/19/06 at 11:56:18 DangMan wrote:
I said the same thing about big trucks when I started driving a semi. |
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Title: Re: Take care out there ! Post by Guido on 08/19/06 at 12:47:37 Well, there is no way my wife or mother should look at that. Yes, I'll be 40 next year. No I'm not going through a mid-life crisis. I've seen my fair share of gore. I was in the fire service for 15 yrs. The way this site portrays is that motorcycles are unsafe. Not true. Under-skilled reckless, innatentive or intoxicated riders, and the same kind of cagers are responsible for most accidents. As compared this way, there are very few " dumb luck " situations. I'd like to see the statistics on that! Maybe it will help some riders to realize the consequences of certain actions. But it would help to explain the details or what led up to these accidents instead of trying to use scare tactics. I didn't feel this way when I was 16, but I believe riders and drivers should be better educated and tested before being turned loose to ruin some one's day. End of Speech! |
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Title: Re: Take care out there ! Post by Ed_L. on 08/19/06 at 18:30:49 Man that guy is sick. He must be interested in the shock factor and not promoting safe riding. There are better ways to teach safe riding, all those pictures do is gross you out. |
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Title: Re: Take care out there ! Post by DangMan on 08/20/06 at 10:04:48 steelwolf wrote:
I drive semi to, but here we have a lot bigger problems with pedestriens "crawling" under the rig, resently the state required that a new mirror had to be installed so we now have 4 mirrors on the right side of the rig, but it havent helped, the only thing that will help is that ppl would realise that there are BIG blind angels on a rig and stay out of them ! And i totaly agree with you |
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Title: Re: Take care out there ! Post by YonuhAdisi on 08/20/06 at 20:20:24 I am NOT showing that site to my wife. She doesn't really like me having a bike in the first place, if she saw that she would never let me live it down "How dangerous bikes are" A Bike is only as dangerous as the person riding it. If the person riding it uses safe riding practices, then it is a very safe mode of transportation. |
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Title: Re: Take care out there ! Post by torque on 08/21/06 at 00:48:12 more examples of why a leather jacket wont save your life >:( |
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Title: Re: Take care out there ! Post by 911radioman on 08/21/06 at 04:26:38 A leather jacket isn't intended to save your life, they are intended to help save some of your skin. ::) Then again, the more skin you have your odds of surviving increase... |
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Title: Re: Take care out there ! Post by Paladin on 08/21/06 at 13:54:12 It is not so much the scraping of the skin as the embedding of dirt, gravel, etc. into your flesh that is so painful. The Pyramid of death is built upon unsafe acts (numbers pure guess but you get the idea): 10 major injuries 100 minor bumps and cuts 1000 unsafe acts, wandering attention, etc. The leather is used at the next to bottom level -- the level that does not even get reported as an accident. The leather is used 10 to 100 times as often as the helmet. |
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