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Message started by sydwyndr on 08/26/06 at 19:57:12

Title: Transmission question
Post by sydwyndr on 08/26/06 at 19:57:12

I bought my wife an 04 savage and have a question. The bike at least for her is not rider friendly so to speak. Is it possible to lower the first gear ratio?? It seems a little high for her as it is her first bike. She has a really hard time getting the bike started because it chokes down for her. I do not want to change any other gears other than first gear. I have an 04 victory vegas and the first gear on the savage is the same as on the vegas. Any suggestions??

Title: Re: Transmission question
Post by sluggo on 08/26/06 at 20:32:16

i'll be gentle here, live with it. like everyone else has, she will have to learn how to ride. it just takes practice, practice, practice. i know that's not the answere you were looking for, but around here, we call em as we see em.

enjoy
sluggo

Title: Re: Transmission question
Post by Dynobob on 08/27/06 at 03:24:26

If she's having trouble on take offs with stalling, turn up the idle speed. It's the knurled knob on the carburetor. It should take off easily without giving it any gas. It'll almost drive itself ;D

Now way to change gear ratios that I've heard of.

Title: Re: Transmission question
Post by smokey02 on 08/27/06 at 07:35:56

I let the clutch out slow, let it slip a bit as I give it a little gas. Otherwise it knocks and rattles like its gonna stall.

Title: Re: Transmission question
Post by Paladin on 08/27/06 at 07:41:06

I have the idle speed on Thumper set obscenely low. For the first five miles, before he's fully warmed up, I have a problem stalling out and have to modulate the throttle to keep him running.

Pulling from a stop involves fairly agressive use of the throttle and just a little slipping of the clutch. With my low speed maneuvers in the parking garage I am mostly coasting, clutch lever operated, with occasional partial releases to keep me moving.

A louder aftermarket exhaust helps with hearing the engine speed and whether you're near stalling.

But mainly she needs to learn the friction zone on the clutch. At the MSF Basic Rider Course they had us sitting, feet on the ground, forward, first gear, releasing the clutch until we pushed against the feet and then fully operating the clutch to rock backward. Repeat over and over until you no longer have to concentrate on slipping the clutch -- you develop a connection from the ear (engine speed) to the clutch hand so all you do is want to go and the clutch operation is automatic.

With enough money, nearly anything is possible. You could get an extremely good automotive machine shop to design, cut and install a new set of gears -- will cost more than the bike.

p.s. if you are in or near LaLaLand I'd be more than willing to ride by for a demo.

Title: Re: Transmission question
Post by thumperclone on 08/27/06 at 08:11:29

idle speed 1000 > 1200 rpm

Title: Re: Transmission question
Post by Ed_L. on 08/27/06 at 12:50:20

Set the idle up to around 1200 rpm it will help with keeping the motor from stalling when letting out the clutch.