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Message started by john1652 on 01/19/07 at 17:36:38

Title: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by john1652 on 01/19/07 at 17:36:38

Well, I need info on fork oil. I installed black rubber fork boots on the savage tonight. As I was getting ready to put the forks back in I set them up against the work bench and walked away. Believe it or not the forks, having the tire still attached, rolled away from the work bench the minute my back was turned, after all I have done for them----- to treat me like that. Do I need to say more???? How much oil goes in each leg??? just stock I'm not trying to change the forks feel. thanks. Oh by the way BTW the boots look awsome, gives it that old old old school look.

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by TVR on 01/19/07 at 17:59:23

Okay, John......Why ya dorkin with the forks on a brand new bike? Maybe I don't understand what ya did.

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by john1652 on 01/19/07 at 18:20:18

TVR wrote:

Okay, John......Why ya dorkin with the forks on a brand new bike? Maybe I don't understand what ya did.

http://i2.ebayimg.com/04/i/07/ag/77/1c_1_b.JPGthese things. I put these things on my forks to give it that old thumper look this is what I was doing when the afore mentioned accident occured. john

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by TVR on 01/19/07 at 20:16:33

I see now.

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by sparkett on 01/20/07 at 04:12:18

The book says SAE 15 or dextron atf 441 cc (14.91 us oz)fill to 75mm (2.95 in.) thats with the spring out.

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by john1652 on 01/20/07 at 06:27:02

sparkett wrote:

The book says SAE 15 or dextron atf 441 cc (14.91 us oz)fill to 75mm (2.95 in.) thats with the spring out.

thanks little spark. that is what sparkett means isn't it? john

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by TVR on 01/20/07 at 08:07:39

john1652 wrote:

thanks little spark. that is what sparkett means isn't it? john

I'd guess female spark. Little Female Spark would be Sparkita (look it up) ;)

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by john1652 on 01/20/07 at 09:02:29

TVR wrote:

I'd guess female spark. Little Female Spark would be Sparkita (look it up) ;)

so then what is an asset????? a little donkey john

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by Greg_650 on 01/21/07 at 09:13:42

I understand your pain on this one. Does seem kinda silly that you have to "uncork" the forks in order to remove them from the triple tree. Doesn't it?

I like the fork boot idea though. Good addition.

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by TVR on 01/21/07 at 09:41:48

john1652 wrote:

so then what is an asset????? a little donkey john

The best assets are usually found to be female.....IMHO

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by georgekathe on 01/21/07 at 11:00:59

I seem to recall when other person on site was talking about taking forks out of yokes I related on old bikes I used to put gaiters on you could just take wheel & mudguard off (& in this case brakes) & stretch the gaiters over any protuberatances on fork bottoms & get gaiters on that way.

of course might not work on modern day bikes as think these were old bikes with drum brakes & they did not have the lugs on the lower fork pieces the brake caliper bolts onto (though think I fitted gaiters on a Yamaha SR500 with a single disc this way.

person who fitted gaiters the way john1652 did said this might have worked (too late for him, obviously & too late for john1652 too but might work for next person).

often fitted gaiters to bikes back home, not because of how it looked - "like an old bike" - but because they serve a really effective way of keeping dirt from prematurely getting in fork seals (why modern Savages have those little plastic bits on the forks & you can buy little metal do-hickeys to fit on your Superbrace - don't work as well but better than nothing.

I've thought of putting on gaiters (but don't like look) but mainly because it involves taking forks out of yokes which I've found to be a little pain, though not end of world, I'll admit - just harder than taking wheel, mudguard & brake off forks (or in my case the superbrace too, which thinking about it would likely preclude use of gaiters)

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by john1652 on 01/21/07 at 13:18:36

georgekathe wrote:

I've found to be a little pain, though not end of world, I'll admit - just harder

But, but but but ---georgekathe you seee thats the fun part of owning a Savage------------------------------------ taking the darn thing apart and seeing if it all goes back togather without too many pieces left over. come on get in the game. or better yet bring your bike here and let's have fun taking it apart. jjoohhnn

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by Greg_650 on 01/22/07 at 14:56:07

john1652 wrote:

Bike mods begin with the left over parts. I never meant to have a K&N filter until I forgot to reinstall the airbox.

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by john1652 on 01/22/07 at 19:11:39

Greg_650 wrote:

Bike mods begin with the left over parts. I never meant to have a K&N filter until I forgot to reinstall the airbox.

YO YO YO Greg 650 I got a box full of left over Hodaka parts what do ya want to build???? john

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by Greg_650 on 01/23/07 at 05:28:39

If ya got the frame, let's build a stump puller :)

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by john1652 on 01/23/07 at 14:30:37

I got the oil back in and all buttoned up. There is only one problem well actually two problems. I have these really long spring like things laying on the floor in red oil i don't know where they are from and also the forks just go right down like something is missing inside. any ideas he he he. john ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by Greg_650 on 01/23/07 at 15:04:13

Don't need 'em anyway.

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by justin_o_guy on 01/24/07 at 05:16:03

I LIKE springs. I save springs from about anything getting thrown away. Have a fair collection of them. If you aren't gonna USE em, I will pay ya for em. & Pay the freight. Like Greg says, ya don't really Need em..
Thanks for sharin that. No One woulda ever known. Takes some of the sheepish feeling I get away from my projects knowing others pull such stunts.

I DID explode my battery with grinder sparks, felt like such a genius.
I do wish I coulda seen the " What the hekkkk?" look on your face when those forks started past their normal position & headed down.

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by john1652 on 01/24/07 at 05:22:24

justin_o_guy wrote:

I LIKE springs. I save springs from about anything getting thrown away. Have a fair collection of them.

That's a wonderful collection to have, you never know when someone in the neighbor hood might need a spring. Do you only collect coil springs or does it go to leaf springs also???? And of course you know i'm only kidding ------- right???? john

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by Five_Points on 01/24/07 at 08:23:18

@ john1652

Got any pics with the boots installed? I'm really interested in seeing this mod. Also, what size did you go with?

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by Savage_Rob on 01/24/07 at 10:49:49

Five_Points wrote:

@ john1652

Got any pics with the boots installed? I'm really interested in seeing this mod. Also, what size did you go with?

Here's one that Babbalou posted this past August in the Rubber Fork Boots thread.

http://w1.bikepics.com/pics/2006%5C02%5C06%5Cbikepics-517087-800.jpg

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by Five_Points on 01/24/07 at 10:58:31

Thanks! That looks killer, Me thinks! Any idea on the size? are our fork tubes 41mm?

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by Savage_Rob on 01/24/07 at 11:05:29

Five_Points wrote:

Thanks! That looks killer, Me thinks! Any idea on the size? are our fork tubes 41mm?

If you'll go read the thread I mentioned above, Babbalou tells you where to buy them, who makes them and what part number to look for. They also come in several colors, if I remember correctly.

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by Five_Points on 01/24/07 at 11:57:55

Thanks. Somehow I missed that.

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by john1652 on 01/24/07 at 12:46:17

Five_Points wrote:

Thanks! That looks killer, Me thinks! Any idea on the size? are our fork tubes 41mm?

here are the ones I just installed. They cost $20 on e-bay there are tons on there and they are listed for all kinds of bikes. but they are all the same measurements. Like 1 3/4 top by 2 1/2 something like that but they fir perfect. just go to e-bay and type in rubber fork boots and it will brin em up john
http://w2.bikepics.com/pics/2007%5C01%5C24%5Cbikepics-781147-800.jpg

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by Savage_Rob on 01/24/07 at 13:17:01

$15 at DennisKirk.com

Series 58 Black Fork Boots
Dennis Kirk Part #: 58626
Manufacturer Part #: F00058

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by sparkett on 01/24/07 at 14:22:10

John
Electricians are called "sparkeys" soooo, to keep my feminine side im a "sparkett" ::)

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by john1652 on 01/24/07 at 14:39:51

sparkett wrote:

John
Electricians are called "sparkeys" soooo, to keep my feminine side im a "sparkett" ::)

Dear Sparkett, how are you? I am fine. I hesitate to tell this to you but I had a female dog and her name was , uuuuhhhh ummmmmm ahhhhhhhhh, well ok I'll spit it out it was Sparkett. No kidding. She was the very best dog I ever had the pleasure of knowing. part boarder collie part great white Simoyed. she was beautiful. we were partners for 15 years. she even waited for me while i was away in the service. but anyway i guess you are an electrician. or something like that. do you make lots of money Sparkett? And would you consider letting me come to visit during the cold winter months up here??// just kiddin. I could always go live with my auntie in orlando. which i might visit her this spring could you get some people for a ride if i do???????? I am just waiting for an appointment so I thought i would type this wonderful letter. john
http://w2.bikepics.com/pics/2007%5C01%5C05%5Cbikepics-764060-800.jpg

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by TVR on 01/24/07 at 17:00:48

Go ride your bike John.....You're starting to scare me... :-/

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by john1652 on 01/24/07 at 18:00:52

TVR wrote:

Go ride your bike John.....You're starting to scare me... :-/

It has been almost a week since I have been able to feel that bike going down the street. You're right I need to go ride it is good therapy, now, where did I put those pills. ??????

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by john1652 on 01/24/07 at 18:02:29

TVR wrote:

Go ride your bike John.....You're starting to scare me... :-/

Yo TVR when did you become a SENIOR member????? ooohhh AAAHHHHHH john

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by TVR on 01/24/07 at 18:20:00

Paid the fee..... ::)

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by Digger on 01/27/07 at 20:18:49

john1652 wrote:

How much oil goes in each leg???

Getting back on task....the recommended way to add the proper amount of oil to the forks is to pour the fork oil into the tubes, with the springs REMOVED, until the oil is 75mm (2.95 inches) from the top of the fork tube.

I measure this distance with a steel ruler, the end being firmly attached to a large pair of vice grips (keeps me from dropping the ruler into the fork tube).

IHTH!

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by sparkett on 01/28/07 at 03:52:07

And dont forget to put the spring back! ;D I forgot the spring in the carb once ::)
A Bike & Breakfast- now there is an idea to save for my retirement!lol Got the weather and the rolling hilly rides here. This could be a great idea......

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by Greg_650 on 01/28/07 at 06:44:40

Digger wrote:

What angle are you supposed to hold the fork tubes, while holding the ruler, while holding the oil bottle?

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by sparkett on 01/28/07 at 08:54:54

sit on the work benck, leg lock on the fork.level ziptyed to tube cloths pin on ruler to set depth. oil and funnel in hands. ;D

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by Greg_650 on 01/28/07 at 10:01:51

Bet that next time, you'll take the wheel off first :)

Title: Re: OOOOOHHHHHHH MAAAAAAN,
Post by justin_o_guy on 01/29/07 at 02:53:30

sparkett wrote:

sit on the work benck, leg lock on the fork.level ziptyed to tube cloths pin on ruler to set depth. oil and funnel in hands. ;D

So, she grabs a clothespin, cuz its stout enough to hold the ruler & it's in her mental arsenal of tools.The guy who posted used vise grips, sure, works great, no slap down anywhere. just noting the different approach to solve the same problem.Had to smile reading this. I have to admit, I think I could do the job more easily after reading Sparkettes approach.