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Title: questions from newbee Post by tommacarthur on 01/23/07 at 16:43:02 My first bike purchase. i am looking at a 91 650 savage with 6,000 miles. it has no dings, dents, scratches etc. paint is still bright (maroon) owner wants $1,200 for it. is that a fair price? will it carry my spouse and I. i am 250 she is 135. |
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Title: Re: questions from newbee Post by steelwolf on 01/23/07 at 16:46:44 The price is great. the mileage is decent for a 91 and if the paint is good as you say, I'd say buy it. It should mechanically carry the two of you, though you may be a little cramped for a long ride. JMO |
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Title: Re: questions from newbee Post by TVR on 01/23/07 at 16:48:30 That is a very good price. Lots of discussions on here about riding two up. Depends on distance you want to travel and how comfortable you/ she have to be. I wouldnt dream of riding any distance two up on mine (an 01), but piddling around is fine. Height seems to have more to do with comfort than weight it seems. I'm 5'9 and it is close to feeling too small for me, but then again, I'm not going to take off cross country on it either. |
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Title: Re: questions from newbee Post by Brewbrother on 01/23/07 at 18:10:24 The following points are JMHO: 1- price is fair for the model. 2-mileage is disturbing as it has avaeraged 375 miles per year in its lifetime. Not good for a machine that thrives on use. 3-I think your borderline for long distance two up riding. Does your better half want to ride with you often?? 4-Are you planning on using this bike for commuting purposes?? others will have alternative views. What other bikes are you considering?? |
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Title: Re: questions from newbee Post by steelwolf on 01/23/07 at 18:47:39 Brewbrother wrote:
Yea I know it's your opinion but you do have me curious. When I bought my bike(96) it only had 2700 miles on it. That's 270mi/yr. It has had no problems that the other bikes here haven't had. I'm not trying to pick a fight but please, enlighten me. Why would a low milage, air cooled bike be a bad thing? |
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Title: Re: questions from newbee Post by vroom1776 on 01/23/07 at 18:58:36 that's a pretty good price, IMO. w/ that much mass 2-up, it'll still be peppy around town (assuming it's stock), but a bit slow on the free way. SW, I agree with BB here. motorcycle like to be ridden. and maintained. low mileage bikes scare me, esp crotch rockets. 2 year old gimme a 40k mile bike. why? You can bet it was taken care of. that's how it got so much mileage. now a savage w/ the cam cahin issues might be a different story... but we all knwo that and aren't afraid to repalce the cam chain+ |
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Title: Re: questions from newbee Post by steelwolf on 01/23/07 at 19:17:59 I guess I can see the logic in that but it still seems that a low mileage bike should have no problems. If it hasn't been rode much, it's probably (but not necessarily) because the owner was scared of it or just simply didn't have time to ride it. In my case it was the latter. The previous owner had 4 other bikes in the stable and his wife (it was hers) preferred to ride with him. But like I said, I can see were it might be something to be cautious of. Maybe a reason to ask a few extra questions. Thanks Vroom. :) |
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Title: Re: questions from newbee Post by Brewbrother on 01/23/07 at 19:51:52 steelwolf wrote:
270/365=.739 per day over the life of the bike. Not what I would call cared about. I suppose if it was a museum peice, but if the PO does not care enough to ride it, what makes you think they care enough to maintain the bike?? i agree many bikes have no problem being run a few miles till someone cares enough to ride them as they were designed. But I have yet to see a bike that was designed to operate less than a mile a day. even my generator needs to be started every month and I run at least a 1/4 tank of fuel through it. I bought a 2001 with a little less than 2500 miles. i was suspect because of very low mileage. I rode it like I stole it to see what would happen. 30 miles the first run and 70 odd the second time. It seemed to be ok so I bought it for a reduced price. again JMHO. NTTAWWT. |
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Title: Re: questions from newbee Post by georgekathe on 01/23/07 at 19:58:56 maybe it is just me, but I've always valued bikes with low mileage - to me indicates still lots of life in it yet before it will need much work (dreaded cam chain, oil seal, etc). think Kelly Blue book "penalizes" bikes with high mileage. |
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Title: Re: questions from newbee Post by tommacarthur on 01/23/07 at 20:05:31 Thank you for the fast and abundunt feedback. I have all the feed back I need Thank you all TOMMY2TICS |
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Title: Re: questions from newbee Post by steelwolf on 01/23/07 at 20:18:54 Brewbrother wrote:
Well I guess, but how much maintaining could it need with less than an oil change's worth of miles on it? :-/ |
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Title: Re: questions from newbee Post by barry68v10 on 01/23/07 at 21:28:14 Not really taking sides here, the real answer is "it depends." If the bike has low miles and the owner didn't change the oil for long periods of time for lack of miles, rust will form on the inside of the engine. This is MUCH WORSE than relatively high miles. On the other hand, with once or twice a year oil changes, and low miles, the engine should be in primo condition. The only thing is some things wear out with time, not miles, but most of those parts are cheap (i.e. anything rubber, neoprene, nylon, etc.) |
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Title: Re: questions from newbee Post by Paladin on 01/23/07 at 22:54:14 tommacarthur wrote:
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Title: Re: questions from newbee Post by steelwolf on 01/24/07 at 02:35:44 Paladin wrote:
ROFLMAO :D |
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Title: Re: questions from newbee Post by vroom1776 on 01/24/07 at 09:16:33 Paladin wrote:
you are shameless! :o |
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Title: Re: questions from newbee Post by slavy on 01/24/07 at 17:23:21 This can not be in the USA. They did not import LS650 between "88 and "96. |
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Title: Re: questions from newbee Post by Jim_R on 01/25/07 at 13:33:48 slavy wrote:
yeah they did. I had a 1995. SO NAH! |
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Title: Re: questions from newbee Post by thumperclone on 01/25/07 at 14:17:29 I have all the feed back I need Thank you all TOMMY2TICS[/quote] 8) |
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Title: Re: questions from newbee Post by Rockin_John on 01/25/07 at 21:05:49 I still think it is worth telling the OP that I rode my wife around a few miles on my Savage when we first got it. Our combined weight is more than your wife and yourself. I can say with confidence that the Savage WILL pull the two of you around, and accelerate safely to speed. But as others have said: I wouldn't want to ride in that position for a long time. Legit question on the floor: Paraphrased: What is good or wrong with an older bike with low mileage? I feel partially qualified to answer that question, because I've bought cycles more than a couple of years old, which had very few miles on them several times. Two examples with varying results: Early 90s I bought a 1978 Yamaha XS-650 Special from an old man who admitted he rode it very little every year, and that most of the 5000 miles on it had been put on it in the first couple of years by the first adult owner. Old guy said he changed the oil every spring and charged the battery and it would run fine. The bike ran great for me, but every o-ring and oil seal leaked like a sieve. After I spent a day or so changing o-rings and seals it was a great bike. Ended up buying a cheap battery for it within weeks because it wouldn't hold a charge. Wish I still had that bike. The 1987 (nearly 20 YO) Savage I bought a few months ago had a similar history. Or so I thought... But it appears that owner #2 on this bike rode it enough each year, and started it through the winters, so it didn't even have any oil leaks, until well after I got it ;) Also, the old man apparently just went through the fuel system for rust and contaminants before I got it, but that happens at a certain age regardless of mileage. Also the tires on my '87 were weather cracked upon examination with a magnifying glass. So... my overall experience with buying older low mileage cycles has been positive. Just be sure and check for: (1) Rust, especially in the fuel system. (2) Check for leaks when the bike is completely warmed from a ride. (3)Rubber and vinyl will deteriorate from extended periods of no lube from lack of use, so expect to replace those parts depending on just how neglected they have been. |
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