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Message started by john1652 on 01/26/07 at 10:08:17

Title: to dimple or not to dimple
Post by john1652 on 01/26/07 at 10:08:17

http://img.jpcycles.com/main/0ad2fa53-d42f-4c08-acc3-9ecc582f3d6b.jpeg I am going to buy new bars for my bike j&p has these bars in 32 and 36 inch width with or without dimples. do I need the dimples for the savage??? also which do ya think 32 or 36 inch johnhttp://img.jpcycles.com/zoom/f0cb441b-af23-4929-a93a-78e7b2203b0f.jpeghttp://img.jpcycles.com/zoom/f0cb441b-af23-4929-a93a-78e7b2203b0f.jpeg

Title: Re: to dimple or not to dimple
Post by vroom1776 on 01/26/07 at 10:20:32

the dimples are for hd style controls, I think, so no.

36" soemtiems it looks goofy on such a norrow bike, but it makes it a lot easier to steer,e sp w/ one hand.

Title: Re: to dimple or not to dimple
Post by Savage_Rob on 01/26/07 at 10:58:17

I bought the 36" set of these (http://store.wpsracing.com/wiandlowhafo2.html) for $29 and I'm pretty sure they are not dimpled. I will check this afternoon and let you know. They are knurled where the risers clamp on. I am very satisfied with them.

Title: Re: to dimple or not to dimple
Post by justin_o_guy on 01/26/07 at 12:16:55

John, you are such a big guy I think you would want the wide bars. I would consider the distance from your shoulder to the risers to decide on which angle on the bar ends will be most comfy. If its far enough to have the elbow about straight I would think the lesser bend in the bar end would be more comfy on the wrist. If the elbo will be bent pretty good, then the bigger angle would line the wrist up with the forearm better, or so it seems to me.
I can see the point made about "looking a bit odd on such a narrow bike", but I would think tyhe comfort , safety issue is big enough to cancel any worries in that area.I have the little drag bars on the 05 & it requires real serious steering input sometimes. It does allow me to feel the front end flex & I am looking forward to getting a brace on it.

The dimples you asked about, were you talking about the knurling under where the clamps go? If you get some w/o that & you feel like it needs something to make it solid in the mounts you could drill & pin the bars once you got them just where ya want them.I think thats common on apehangers because the leverage they offer is greater than the friction from the knurling can deal with,

As to width, I was thinkin again. Seems I am most comfy with a bar that is just a bit wider than I am, so my hands aren't straight in front ot between the shoulders. Grab a broomstick & mark the distances off & see what works. Keep in mind the angles the bars have will make the wrist more comfy than the stick allows.
I hope that helps,

Title: Re: to dimple or not to dimple
Post by john1652 on 01/26/07 at 12:16:56

Savage_Rob wrote:

Rob could you post a photo with the bars on your bike???? john

Title: Re: to dimple or not to dimple
Post by Savage_Rob on 01/26/07 at 13:47:51

john1652 wrote:

Rob could you post a photo with the bars on your bike???? john

http://w1.bikepics.com/pics/2006/07/25/bikepics-641550-800.jpg

Title: Re: to dimple or not to dimple
Post by john1652 on 01/26/07 at 16:16:22

Savage_Rob wrote:

http://w1.bikepics.com/pics/2006/07/25/bikepics-641550-800.jpg

HHHMMMM doesn't look goofie to me. looks like you can make it turn pretty darn easy. is tha a throttle boss i see on those iso grips???? john also your garage is so clean I may be sick.

Title: Re: to dimple or not to dimple
Post by TVR on 01/26/07 at 17:17:29

Savage_Rob wrote:

http://w1.bikepics.com/pics/2006/07/25/bikepics-641550-800.jpg

I like those a lot! Like the bib too. Where did you get that?

Title: Re: to dimple or not to dimple
Post by justin_o_guy on 01/26/07 at 23:21:07

Nice lookin Rob.. Yep, garage is a bit too neat. & the wires are absol;utely symmetrical leaving the bars. Okay Rob is a neat freak! Unless I miss my guess, Rob uses his turn signals at every turn & cancels within 50 feet of exit. Watches Monk & points out the stuff Monk misses.

Title: Re: to dimple or not to dimple
Post by klx650sm2002 on 01/27/07 at 00:37:33

V nice bars.
Clive W :D

Title: Re: to dimple or not to dimple
Post by barry68v10 on 01/27/07 at 05:02:12

Poor Rob, psychoanalysed at suzukisavage.com ;D

Bet he didn't know what he was openin' himself up to...

Title: Re: to dimple or not to dimple
Post by john1652 on 01/27/07 at 05:47:18

barry68v10 wrote:

Poor Rob, psychoanalysed at suzukisavage.com ;D

Bet he didn't know what he was openin' himself up to...

never feel bad for a multi-multi-millionaire. john

Title: Re: to dimple or not to dimple
Post by Greg_650 on 01/27/07 at 06:35:24

Savage bars are dimpled too, but you can get rid of that requirement with a dremel tool or a half round file when you take off the controls...if you want.

Title: Re: to dimple or not to dimple
Post by john1652 on 01/27/07 at 06:37:22

Greg_650 wrote:

Savage bars are dimpled too, but you can get rid of that requirement with a dremel tool or a half round file when you take off the controls...if you want.

what do you mean???

Title: Re: to dimple or not to dimple
Post by Greg_650 on 01/27/07 at 06:59:41

There is a nipple that goes in the dimple.

Title: Re: to dimple or not to dimple
Post by john1652 on 01/27/07 at 07:02:56

Greg_650 wrote:

There is a nipple that goes in the dimple.

A NIPPLE ????? what nipple??? is it easy to see if I go look??? and what does it do???

Title: Re: to dimple or not to dimple
Post by Greg_650 on 01/27/07 at 07:14:59

The nipple goes in the dimple to keep the controls positioned on the bar.

Loosen up the bolts on the left hand grip (easier one) to see. You'll have to get it really loose to turn the controls. They keep the assembly positioned.

Title: Re: to dimple or not to dimple
Post by john1652 on 01/27/07 at 07:21:12

OH I SEE, said the blind man as he picked up the hammer and saw. john

Title: Re: to dimple or not to dimple
Post by Greg_650 on 01/27/07 at 07:43:39

It is real easy to file off your nipples if you want.

Title: Re: to dimple or not to dimple
Post by vroom1776 on 01/27/07 at 08:55:41

I broke my dimple off with a hemmer when one of he screws holding the control box on was seized.

BUT,

I sitll don't think those are the same dimples. the dimples I am thinking of are more like gullys for wires to enter the hd control boxes.

the pic I want to post is broken up into 4 pics, so here's the link:

flanders dimpled bars (http://www.sideroadcycles.com/AmericanMotorcycles/Handlebars/Options/Dimpled.html)

Title: Re: to dimple or not to dimple
Post by john1652 on 01/27/07 at 09:39:53

vroom1776 wrote:

so for the savage do we need dimples or not???????

Title: Re: to dimple or not to dimple
Post by Savage_Rob on 01/27/07 at 10:00:47

Hmmm... I thought he was talking about dimpled bends in the bars - not the alignment holes for the switches' nipples. I just filed those nipples off with a rat-tail file.

Title: Re: to dimple or not to dimple
Post by Savage_Rob on 01/27/07 at 10:03:03

john1652 wrote:

never feel bad for a multi-multi-millionaire. john

Don't I wish....

Title: Re: to dimple or not to dimple
Post by Savage_Rob on 01/27/07 at 10:04:21

TVR wrote:

I like those a lot! Like the bib too. Where did you get that?

The bib is the Suzuki brand. From a dealership.

Title: Re: to dimple or not to dimple
Post by Savage_Rob on 01/27/07 at 10:07:04

justin_o_guy wrote:

Here's a bit more info to add to your I'm Okay, You're Okay analysis... The tank doesn't look the same anymore since I removed the decals and sprayed it with truck bed liner. I have also done the front fender and both side panels, I still have to do the rear fender. I like low maintenance.

Title: Re: to dimple or not to dimple
Post by vroom1776 on 01/27/07 at 11:48:24

john1652 wrote:

so for the savage do we need dimples or not???????

it "needs" alignment dimples, but as pointed out, you just take those off with a file. it does not need the flanders style dimples, or as I called them, gullys.

the bars do need to be knurled, though, so the rises can effectively grab them

Title: Re: to dimple or not to dimple
Post by Greg_650 on 01/28/07 at 07:19:37

Savage_Rob wrote:

Where's a pic of your truck bed tank and side covers? I wanna see :)

Title: Re: to dimple or not to dimple
Post by Greg_650 on 01/28/07 at 07:22:20

vroom1776 wrote:

To be perfectly clear, you don't take off the "dimples" with a file. It is the "nipples" that you remove with a file :)

Title: Re: to dimple or not to dimple
Post by vroom1776 on 01/29/07 at 09:50:15

no comment! ::)

Title: Re: to dimple or not to dimple
Post by Greg_650 on 01/29/07 at 09:55:12

http://w1.bikepics.com/pics/2006%5C02%5C19%5Cbikepics-525191-full.jpg

8)

Title: Re: to dimple or not to dimple
Post by justin_o_guy on 01/29/07 at 21:15:35

That's a fine "Kilroy"

Title: Re: to dimple or not to dimple
Post by Greg_650 on 01/30/07 at 05:45:15

justin_o_guy wrote:

That's a fine "Kilroy"

He's kinda cute, just peeking on the fender.

Title: Re: to dimple or not to dimple
Post by Savage_Rob on 01/30/07 at 07:38:02

Greg_650 wrote:

Where's a pic of your truck bed tank and side covers? I wanna see :)

Life is hectic these days but I'll try to remember to get a current pic and post it soon.