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Message started by jd06s40 on 05/06/07 at 19:52:19

Title: question on lancer carb turning
Post by jd06s40 on 05/06/07 at 19:52:19

it stats start at 1.5 turns out and says turn in 1/8 to1/4 at a time till engine slows and turn out til engine slows turn out from that point or the 1.5 turns out is the question

Title: Re: question on lancer carb turning
Post by LANCER on 05/06/07 at 20:50:51

There is a mixup somewhere.

It should be:
1.   use "1.5 turns out" as a starting point
2.  turn the adj screw 1/8-1/4 turns at a time going out  until the engine begins to slow and make note of that position.
3.  then turn adj screw "in" until the engine begins to slow and make note of that position.
4.  then go back to the midpoint between those two positions ... ex: if the "out" position was 2 1/4 turns out, and the "in" position was 1 1/4 turns out, then set the adj screw at the new midpoint of 1 3/4 turns out.  From there some fine tuning may be done if desired, +/- 1/8.

Note:  At the beginning, always turn the adj screw all the way in GENTLY, we do not want to damage the brass adj screw.  Then back it out to the starting point of "1.5 turns out".

ALSO ... never go beyond the "3 turns out" position.  The little springs on the adj screws are generally not made to hold the adj screw in position if it is turned more than 3 turns out.  The adj screw could fall out on the road ... which would make for a poor day of riding.

I hope this is helpful

Title: Re: question on lancer carb turning
Post by jd06s40 on 05/06/07 at 21:04:48

yep very helpful and thanks for responding i will do it tommorrow i dont think my neihbors would like that at 12 am


Title: Re: question on lancer carb turning
Post by LANCER on 05/07/07 at 05:34:35

You don't mean to say that you do not live in a biker community do you?
When I moved in to this house I made sure, up front, that every tree in the woods all around the place were motorcycle loving trees.  Yes sir re Bob, I do not put up with non-biker trees.  
Actually, I did find a couple of them that were trying to ride the fence on the subject ... so my wife bought me a new chain saw ... no more problem.   ;D

Title: Re: question on lancer carb turning
Post by azjay on 05/07/07 at 06:33:06

you have trees? i am so envious!  8)

Title: Re: question on lancer carb turning
Post by LANCER on 05/07/07 at 07:06:38

Yep, trees everywhere.

Title: Re: question on lancer carb turning
Post by Dr_Jim on 05/07/07 at 08:48:14

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Title: Re: question on lancer carb turning
Post by LANCER on 05/07/07 at 13:38:14


Dr_Jim wrote:



Heh! -

Just wait until Summer, when the Tree-huggers come out....

Cheers

Jim


I live too far out in the trees for the tree-huggers to bother me ... or at least for it to be comfortable for them to get here.   ;D


Title: Re: question on lancer carb turning
Post by YonuhAdisi on 05/07/07 at 21:42:17


LANCER wrote:
There is a mixup somewhere.

It should be:
1.   use "1.5 turns out" as a starting point
2.  turn the adj screw 1/8-1/4 turns at a time going out  until the engine begins to slow and make note of that position.
3.  then turn adj screw "in" until the engine begins to slow and make note of that position.
4.  then go back to the midpoint between those two positions ... ex: if the "out" position was 2 1/4 turns out, and the "in" position was 1 1/4 turns out, then set the adj screw at the new midpoint of 1 3/4 turns out.  From there some fine tuning may be done if desired, +/- 1/8.

Note:  At the beginning, always turn the adj screw all the way in GENTLY, we do not want to damage the brass adj screw.  Then back it out to the starting point of "1.5 turns out".

ALSO ... never go beyond the "3 turns out" position.  The little springs on the adj screws are generally not made to hold the adj screw in position if it is turned more than 3 turns out.  The adj screw could fall out on the road ... which would make for a poor day of riding.

I hope this is helpful



I got a quick question for you as well Lancer, when you say turns are you reffering to a full 360 degrees of the screw or 180?

Title: Re: question on lancer carb turning
Post by justin_o_guy on 05/08/07 at 04:59:54

I cant really speak for Lancer, O course, but, considering the notes come with a word of caution regarding the needle coming off the spring & getting loosa after more than 3 turns, I would expect that to be 360- degree turns. I cant imagine a setup so without adjustment as to be limited to 3 x 180 degree twists,, Might happen,, I would bet against it. Maybe a few twists on the screw to see where the spring gets loose? Count the turns?

Title: Re: question on lancer carb turning
Post by LANCER on 05/08/07 at 05:33:28

Yep ... 360

Title: Re: question on lancer carb turning
Post by tuxedo on 05/09/07 at 18:11:10

how do you get the brass adjusting screw to come out of the frickin carb?  I need to dremel a new slot in there, apparently my friend, the previous owner, didn't know the proper usage of a slotted screwdriver.


Title: Re: question on lancer carb turning
Post by LANCER on 05/09/07 at 18:41:06


tuxedo wrote:
how do you get the brass adjusting screw to come out of the frickin carb?  I need to dremel a new slot in there, apparently my friend, the previous owner, didn't know the proper usage of a slotted screwdriver.



It should just fall out at about 5-6  turns out on the screw.  If not, then use a very small set of needle nose pliers to pull it out.  If you try to drill it ... well, you best be very accurate.  If you damage the hole at all you may just as well toss the carb.

Title: Re: question on lancer carb turning
Post by justin_o_guy on 05/09/07 at 22:59:08

The head of mine fills the hole so that no pliers can reach in & grab it. I would remove the carb, buy the tiniest drill bits I could find & drill 2 holes into, but not thru the screw head. Stick a bit in each one & slip any thin, strong enough to turn that little screw, piece of metal between the bits & turn left till it falls out. This is a good place for whiteout or tape on a bit. Also, IF you are cool enugh with a drill, leaning the holes so they help the bits stay in while you back the screw oiut would be nice, example, looking at the screw head, held up eye level, the "slot" is verticaal, then the hole in the right side of the screw head would be drilled with the drill pointing up a bit & the one on the left, bit pointed down a bit. I hope that didnt complicate it too much. By tiny bits, I mean in the 1/16" inch rang, smaller would be fine, just be very gentle with the turning & stich the end that goes in the drill in the holes, not the end that drills, its stouter,

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