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Message started by John_D FSO on 05/19/10 at 20:06:00

Title: Is it just me...
Post by John_D FSO on 05/19/10 at 20:06:00

... or has the bilge pump at the Tall Table stopped working?  'Cause it sure seems to be overflowing.  I suppose I'll get blasted for this, but it seems like I'm skipping the majority of the posts these days, because I have no urge to wade through all of the political/religious debates going on around here, most likely due to spring fever.  I still check in, hoping for some amusing goodies from Gort or Serowbot, but pretty much skip the rest.

And as a parting shot, here's the guideline we were all supposed to read before posting in here:

6351465157556F625F52300 wrote:
Hope you enjoy this forum. Almost anything goes here with the following guidelines:

   * Must be work appropriate -- be kind to your fellow members and don't post stuff that would get someone in trouble if they had it open at work.
   * Keep the MAJORITY of stuff in here motorcycle related but some other stuff is ok. However, highly divisive topics (including, but not limited to politics and religion) are to be avoided.  The current divisiveness is counterproductive to the community of this site and such posts/threads will be subject to removal.
    *Personal attacks of any kind will not be tolerated.

Bring your own coffee and happy gabbing at the Cafe...   ;D

Here's the tough one:

UNLESS YOU POST IN THIS THREAD THAT YOU WILL ABIDE BY THE GUIDLINES YOUR POSTS WILL BE DELETED!

Let the me-bashing begin! :D

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by Starlifter on 05/19/10 at 20:23:45

It's just you. ;)

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by Capt._Ron on 05/19/10 at 20:31:49

Thank you John. My sentiments exactly.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by mick on 05/19/10 at 22:24:27

As far as I know the "tall table" was meant for unsavory issues like polotics ,and even more unsavory ""Religion", and that is where I go to post that kind of stuff as a rule,some times people bring up the
unsavory in our little delicate cafe,this must be avoided at all cost.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by mick on 05/19/10 at 22:43:59


5A4D4C464D4B431F1A19181A280 wrote:
... or has the bilge pump at the Tall Table stopped working?  'Cause it sure seems to be overflowing.  I suppose I'll get blasted for this, but it seems like I'm skipping the majority of the posts these days, because I have no urge to wade through all of the political/religious debates going on around here, most likely due to spring fever.  I still check in, hoping for some amusing goodies from Gort or Serowbot, but pretty much skip the rest.

And as a parting shot, here's the guideline we were all supposed to read before posting in here:
[quote author=6351465157556F625F52300 link=1202912523/0#0 date=1202912523]Hope you enjoy this forum. Almost anything goes here with the following guidelines:

   * Must be work appropriate -- be kind to your fellow members and don't post stuff that would get someone in trouble if they had it open at work.
   * Keep the MAJORITY of stuff in here motorcycle related but some other stuff is ok. However, highly divisive topics (including, but not limited to politics and religion) are to be avoided.  The current divisiveness is counterproductive to the community of this site and such posts/threads will be subject to removal.
    *Personal attacks of any kind will not be tolerated.

Bring your own coffee and happy gabbing at the Cafe...   ;D

Here's the tough one:

UNLESS YOU POST IN THIS THREAD THAT YOU WILL ABIDE BY THE GUIDLINES YOUR POSTS WILL BE DELETED!

Let the me-bashing begin! :D[/quote]
where were you when Gort and my self were being bad mouthed by some ignorant slob. "Personal attacks will not be tolerated" my a$$,not only where they tolerated ,they were completly ignored  by the censors who ever the fu*k they are.
And as for having a thread removed or deleted dream on, it will never happen. In fact I believe gort was highly insulted this very evening ,has the poster been removed ,NO he hasn't ,looks like he has awoken from his cockroach ridden bed,to spread more hate and discontent. He is religious ,so that explains alot,he is from Texas he slipped and let that out of the bag. a few more slipps could nail him.
his name tonight is Zing ex member, posted in the Acupuncture thread.
another clue.. He is not an alliance member,in his lame rebuttle he said $20 for membership,when infact it was $25,and other smaller donations for upkeep.By the way if any moderators are reading this ,and they start doing there job ,who knows people might start donating again,membership is almost impossable,6 month waiting period. not good enough.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by verslagen1 on 05/19/10 at 22:50:45


614352560C7D704D4C220 wrote:
Thank you John. My sentiments exactly.

+1

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by mick on 05/19/10 at 23:04:57

is it just me, that looked at the hits the tall table has, wow ! more than any other with 41,232

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by John_D FSO on 05/19/10 at 23:29:06

Yeah, I think it's by far the longest running thread on here.  Poked my head in once or twice out of curiosity, but that's about it.

And despite my personal stance of not getting involved in forum "politics", I did actually comment once during that whole fracas.  Spent a little time trying to see if I could find it; good grief there's a bunch of threads in here! :o  And of course I couldn't remember the name of the thread. ::)

And thank you for your support!  (I'm not gonna get sued by Bartles & James am I? (does anyone still remember those commercials, or am I dating myself?!)) :-/

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by drharveys on 05/20/10 at 09:02:21

I just read the posts "below the line" -- my blood pressure seems much better as a result!

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by Gort on 05/20/10 at 09:19:36

There are no longer any rules in this forum.  The moderators do nothing to enforce the rules, and as a result posters have posted descriptive sexual obscenities, personal attacks, and all sorts of other things in violation of the rules. Alliance members have even agreed with the scum that have made the obscene posts.  Moderators have been online when this all this goes on, and they do nothing.

This is an open forum, and anything goes.  Post whatever you want, anywhere you want.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by Starlifter on 05/20/10 at 09:21:00

Versy, if you dislike the controversial topics/threads so much, why not just avoid them? You post there often and now complain. Anyway I like to hear your points of view and enjoy countering your arguments as I am sure you enjoy countering mine. You know it's fun and intellectually stimulating, so keep on posting my friend. ;)

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by simpletonslapper on 05/20/10 at 11:25:25


1D2E2834292E5C0 wrote:
There are no longer any rules in this forum.  You post more garbage and break more rules than anyone, so blow it out your arse.The forum rules states to keep it motorcycle related and such topics that one can open at work without getting in trouble. The moderators do nothing to enforce the rules, If they did, you would have been gone months ago, dumbarse! and as a result posters have posted descriptive sexual obscenities, personal attacks, and all sorts of other things in violation of the rules. Hmmmmmm coming from someone who posted the following topics, and many many more
Dept of Defense put microchip in woman's rectum:

"Evil Clown" for hire to stalk children

Wisconsin Sex ED teachers may face arrest:

Doctors do C section on woman who was not pregnant

Controversial Japanese Rape video games

China extracts cooking oil from raw sewage:

A Child's book about homosexuality:

Toy Dog $hits on the floor

Candid Camera Changing Room # 1:

43% of Canadians Prefer Bacon rather than Sex:

1869 Steam Powered Sex Vibrator:

Police 'try' to arrest man for having sex in car

List of every Nude Beach in N. America

Machine that eats food and produces human waste
Alliance members have even agreed with the scum Well this scum and others work 40 to 60 hours a week, and don't live in their mothers basement, playing on the Internet all day, pretending to have a wife, kids, and half a million dollars. seeing we are feeding you, and keeping you online, we shall say and do as we wish. that have made the obscene posts.  Moderators have been online when this all this goes on, and they do nothing.  Once again, those who live in glass houses should not throw stones.You have to be the dumbest turd i have ever run across.

This is an open forum, and anything goes.  Post whatever you want, anywhere you want. Have you finally quit boasting about your Alliance member status, and the fact that you gave 20 dollars ONCE, and flood a forum with garbage only you and your 4 or 5 dimwit followers appreciate.


Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by Gort on 05/20/10 at 12:27:33

In the title to the thread, under "Last Post", it showed that John_D FSO posted a reply at 19.25.25. But that post does not appear.

Simpletonslapper posted his attack exactly at the same time to the second at 19.25.25, yet instead of John_D FSO's name appearing next to his post, Simpletonslappers name appears.  Both cannot post simultaneously to the second and John's post is nowhere to be found.

?

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by babyhog on 05/20/10 at 12:40:52


102325392423510 wrote:
In the title to the the thread, under "Last Post", it shows that John_D FSO posted a reply at 19.25.25. But that post does not appear.

Simpletonslapper posted his attack exactly at the same time to the second at 19.25.25, yet instead of John_D FSO's name appearing, Simpletonslappers name appears.  Both cannot post simultaneously to the second and John's post is nowhere to be found.

?


Interesting Gort, but what does it really matter??    Your post over-wrote "last post", so there is no way of anyone seeing that again.  Now mine will over-write yours, and so on...

Same sh!t, different day, if you ask me.  Its actually comical now.

But I did notice something else....  The other day there was mention of our number of members.  Earlier today, I noticed it had gone over 13000.  Right now, it is still what it was when I noticed it earlier, although we have had another "anonymous/ex-member" post.  So how is that?  I assumed it was someone creating a new membership, then immediately cancelling the membership.  But... all you have to do is change your "displayed name" and it changes.  Although I didn't realize that ex-members still had access to their ex-logons.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by mick on 05/20/10 at 12:45:41


2037363C3731396560636260520 wrote:
Yeah, I think it's by far the longest running thread on here.  Poked my head in once or twice out of curiosity, but that's about it.

And despite my personal stance of not getting involved in forum "politics", I did actually comment once during that whole fracas.  Spent a little time trying to see if I could find it; good grief there's a bunch of threads in here! :o  And of course I couldn't remember the name of the thread. ::)

And thank you for your support!  (I'm not gonna get sued by Bartles & James am I? (does anyone still remember those commercials, or am I dating myself?!)) :-/

John, how could you date your self ?  you are only 35 according to your profile, you are just a kid.Wasn't Bartles and james small bottles of wine ?

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by Gort on 05/20/10 at 12:47:47

Another interesting thing is that the anonymous poster mentioned a personal bit of info about me that I said to only one person on this site, Justin O Guy.  The only way the anonymous poster could have known that piece information was to have been able to access everyone's messages in the Personal Message area of this forum.  Be careful what you say in your PM messages, because the anonymous poster can read them.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by mick on 05/20/10 at 13:07:07

I think you are right Gort, JOG is from texas,he is very religious,he is not an alliance member, not been on line for 3 days, other than in his
other mode,reminds me of the uni bomber, does not show pics of his
aledged bikes,or himself. and he is rather weird.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by John_D FSO on 05/20/10 at 13:47:31


43474D455A464B4247434B572E0 wrote:
[quote author=2037363C3731396560636260520 link=1274324762/0#7 date=1274336946]Yeah, I think it's by far the longest running thread on here.  Poked my head in once or twice out of curiosity, but that's about it.

And despite my personal stance of not getting involved in forum "politics", I did actually comment once during that whole fracas.  Spent a little time trying to see if I could find it; good grief there's a bunch of threads in here! :o  And of course I couldn't remember the name of the thread. ::)

And thank you for your support!  (I'm not gonna get sued by Bartles & James am I? (does anyone still remember those commercials, or am I dating myself?!)) :-/

John, how could you date your self ?  you are only 35 according to your profile, you are just a kid.Wasn't Bartles and james small bottles of wine ?[/quote]
We have a winner!  Yep, little wine coolers.  I remember those commercials when I was a kid.  And yeah, only 35, but when I start hearing the songs from when I was a teenager on the classic rock stations, it fills me with the urge to start using words like "whippersnapper". ;D

Oh, and this is only my 3rd post in here: the first, the 8th, and this one.  Hope no one's running amok with my screen name.  Oh well, I would hope anyone would recognize any out of character posts weren't from me. ;D

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by TheSkyIsFalling on 05/20/10 at 16:38:24

Didn't Jim Carey make  a movie about you two? Ahhhh yes, "Dumb and Dumber" was the name. How a brain can be that useless and still sustain life is fascinating in itself. You guys should make a silent Slapstick Comedy. A few self induced blows to the head couldn't hurt, and may even do some good.

As amusing as your Henny-penny " The Sky Is Falling" antics are, I thought I would help you two dorks out a bit.

The both of you spend the majority of a 24 hour period online and on this website. You would think that you would at least pick up a few things. I suppose that when your IQ is smaller than your neck size, clarity in any matter is a challenge. With all the time you two leaches on society have, take a few free online courses.

In a YABB forum, if a membership is cancelled, the name belonging to the post still shows with time stamp, but the main page reverts back to the main author/creator of the thread, and also shows the same time stamp. That should keep the two of you busy scratching your heads for a week or so. Please do not eat the brown crayons! They are NOT chocolate!

In no thread or event did I ever mention that I am religious.  In fact, I am a fence sitting borderline Athiest who is somewhat disgusted by organized religion. I haven't been to church since I was a child, nor plan to anytime soon.  

In no way, shape or form have I ever said I was from Texas. In fact, I haven't even been to Texas. That's something you two numb skulls made up, to render your tales believable. If you are going to lie, then back it up.

It seems you have had so many disagreements, you are getting people mixed up.


Gort, you say I "mentioned a personal bit of info about me that I said to only one person on this site, Justin O Guy"
Was it that you claim to have half a million dollars? Or was it that you live in your mother's basement? You bragged about the $500,000 on at least 3 occasions. Once by posting a house you supposedly bought with this money. Once by claiming that Justin saved you from the clutches of the stock market crash, and yet again typing the same fabricated hogwash, while someone in the forum questioned Justin's quirky rants about the economy. You have told so many lies , you don't even remember the early ones any more. There is no half a million dollars, and never was. By the way, next time you make up a story, go for TEN million. Five hundred grand is chump change these days. of course, still living at home with your mom gives you no economic/monotary gauge to base your fairy tales on. When she gives you a buck for a hot dog, you figure you hit the jackpot, and skip down the street showing the neighbors, like the VILLAGE IDIOT you are.
No one is reading anyone's private messages, you thick skulled dork. The sky is falling...The sky is falling!!!! You set your self up every time but a compulsive liar seldom remembers his last fib. You should at least make a few notes, so you can keep track of your openly fabricated stories, your pm fabricated stories, and the factual truths, if any. If you were any dumber, you would have to be two people.
As far as Alliance member goes, I will not say whether my name carries the title or not. Lets just say I have donated more than you both combined, on more than one occasion, and have neevr bragged about it.

You two make this so easy. It's like taking candy from a baby. Set yourselves up again, I am on vacation all week and have time to burn. It's too bad it's getting boring already. YAWNNNNNNN........

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by Gort on 05/20/10 at 16:59:03

Nah, f_ckface.  It wasn't any of those things.  You said something that no one else knows about me.  You also said you do religious work with your church group, you lying dumb-f_ck.  You have been posting under a variety of fake names, for fear of getting caught.  Tell us your Savage handle.  Don't be afraid.  I won't hurt you.  You know mine.  But what I don't get is why you keep coming back?  Every time you craw out from the dirt, I make an a$s out of you, yet you still come back for more.  You have to be one of the dumbest f_cks I've ever seen.

By the way, thanks for telling me the type of posts that bother you the most.  Now I will concentrate twice as hard to find more of the same, to post.  I've already posted some today because of you.  Have you seen them? Did you enjoy them? There will be lots more.

Even a dog learns not to bite when you kick it in its face.  You've got to be one of the most stupid cowards I've ever come across.  By the way, tell your wife hello from me and Mick.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by Serowbot on 05/20/10 at 17:01:18

Regardless of who likes who's posts,... and which posts people choose to read or ignore,...
I'm sure everyone here, comes to this site for pleasure,... except you, ex-member...
You are putting an awful lot of time and effort into a purely hateful pursuit.... so psychoanalyze all you want, but don't look in the mirror...  Scary stuff in there...

...and now comes my share of the hateful, homophobic, bitter, resentful... attacks...  

Cum on, dude... look at the puppy...  :-?...
Ohhh!,.. it's a puppy... :-*...
http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx211/babyhog/stuff/Dudley1.jpg

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by Serowbot on 05/20/10 at 17:10:44

waiting.... :-/...

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by Serowbot on 05/20/10 at 17:11:09

here it comes... :-?...

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by Serowbot on 05/20/10 at 17:12:34

...any minute now,...

This guy lives on this site way more than I do... :-?...

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by bill67 on 05/20/10 at 17:16:48

Check personal message Serowbot

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by Serowbot on 05/20/10 at 17:19:06

Thanks Bill,...
done...

PS,.. he won't read it,... 'cause he's a dipwad... >:(...

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by bill67 on 05/20/10 at 17:20:56

True

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by TheSkyIsFalling on 05/20/10 at 17:22:36


0E3D3B273A3D4F0 wrote:
Nah, f_ckface. SWEET It wasn't any of those things.  You said something that no one else knows about me. BULL$HIT You also said you do religious work with your church group, you lying dumb-f_ck. I have never mentioned church in any of my posts. That's another of your enemies. You have been posting under a variety of fake names, for fear of getting caught. Fear of what? it's an Internet forum retard. A place where most people post with fake names. Tell us your Savage handle.  Don't be afraid. I won't hurt you.  Afraid of what? I doubt your mother could come up with the bus fare, even if you were to try. As lazy as you are, you probably have the muscle tone of a lasagna. Are you going to knock me down, and do my hair, girly boy?You know mine. Yes, such a display of courage, attacking people under the name GORT. Bravo! But what I don't get is why you keep coming back? For the little peanut packs, and the barf bags, of course. I also love the frequent flyer miles. Every time you craw out from the dirt, I make an a$s out of you, yet you still come back for more.Keep believing that, as the forum laughs at your stupidity, behind your back. You are the Village Idiot, and everyone knows it.  You have to be one of the dumbest f_cks I've ever seen. Oh yes, what a comeback........Did Mick write that for you or did you come up with it all by yourself...oh yes, you copied off of me.
By the way, thanks for telling me the type of posts that bother you the most.  Now I will concentrate twice as hard to find more of the same, to post.  I've already posted some today because of you.  Have you seen them? Did you enjoy them? There will be lots more. Oh goody, we have a group at work that really enjoys them. Too bad it's the lunch lady and staff and the old janitor who talks to himself while scratching his arse and sniffing his fingers.

Even a dog learns not to bite when you kick it in its face.  You've got to be one of the most stupid cowards I've ever come across. Did you throw your computer through another wall in mommy's basement, in a fit of anger, and bust the mirror? You picture is under "Coward' in Websters Dictionary. And once again, please stop copying off me. Gosh you are an imbecile. By the way, tell your wife hello from me and Mick.

Another sick sexual fantasy with Mick involved. You creepy little man!
I just threw up a little in my mouth.

Now please come up with something a little more intelligent, and quit making an ass of yourself. I told you, i am getting bored.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by Serowbot on 05/20/10 at 17:25:10

WTF was that?... :-?...

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by bill67 on 05/20/10 at 17:26:13

  I think we have someone here very jealous of Gort and Mick there can only be one reason for him to be jealous,He feels left out

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by mick on 05/20/10 at 17:39:19

Actually I feel sorry for him,oh well,not my concern,let him rant.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by Gort on 05/20/10 at 17:44:35

He is getting desperate, and running out of material.  His rants are becoming redundant and boring.  But at least now I know what type posts irritate him.  Interesting thing is, the very posts he objects to, often get the most views.  So as I said, I will increase my efforts at posting them.  This dumb a$s just doesn't learn.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by TheSkyIsFalling on 05/20/10 at 17:48:05


4452455840555843370 wrote:
Thanks Bill,...
done...

PS,.. he won't read it,... 'cause he's a dipwad... >:(...


Speaking of living in your mother's basement, being jobless, and online al day and night, another sissyboy chimes in. Do you pansies have some sort of Gaydar that beeps when one of the Chief Queen in in distress?

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by TheSkyIsFalling on 05/20/10 at 17:49:07


6B6065653F3E090 wrote:
  I think we have someone here very jealous of Gort and Mick there can only be one reason for him to be jealous,He feels left out



Bill, you are exempt and I will overlook your comments. I am just happy you can actually use a computer. Not exactly a member of the MENSA crowd, are ya Bill? God Bless your little heart.  ;)

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by Gort on 05/20/10 at 17:58:30

You see what I mean?  He is running out of material, and trying to calm the others who have had enough and are complaining.  He will continue posting, but as you can see he feeds on responses, so perhaps the best way to handle him is to no longer comment on his posts.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by Serowbot on 05/20/10 at 18:02:42


0E323F09312313291C3B363633343D5A0 wrote:
Do you pansies have some sort of Gaydar that beeps when one of the Chief Queen in in distress?[/b]

My gaydar goes off whenever you post...

Umm?... Why is that...
:-* :-* :-*...

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by TheSkyIsFalling on 05/20/10 at 18:49:19


6754524E5354260 wrote:
You see what I mean?  He is running out of material, and trying to calm the others who have had enough and are complaining.  He will continue posting, but as you can see he feeds on responses, so perhaps the best way to handle him is to no longer comment on his posts.



No one is calming anyone.Once again, too dumb to see the sarcasm. Unreal that you are that dense. You stopped commenting on my posts ages ago....remember? Synopsis ...You try as you will to keep up, but fail miserably. Then announce to everyone to ignore my posts. LOL.....tired of smashing computers, kicking cars, and punching holes in walls? Costing mommy a fortune this week?

Speaking of running out of material, I am sorry you are so boring. This forum plays less than 5% of my life. Too bad it's 90% to 95% of yours. No wonder you repeat yourself over and over.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by TheSkyIsFalling on 05/20/10 at 18:50:35


3721362B33262B30440 wrote:
[quote author=0E323F09312313291C3B363633343D5A0 link=1274324762/30#32 date=1274402885]Do you pansies have some sort of Gaydar that beeps when one of the Chief Queen in in distress?[/b]

My gaydar goes off whenever you post...

Umm?... Why is that...
:-* :-* :-*...[/quote]


Nice try freak. we know you and what you are all about. You're an open book. Now go get a job and quit wasting my time and tax dollars.

Now I am officially bored. Settle down Sister Sledge and tighten your girdles. I will let you ladies shake your booties without commenting any further.....But seriously Gort and Serowbot.... please seek work. I have my eye on a 40 foot boat and may not be able to swing it as long as I am feeding you and keeping your Internet up to date. <Sigh>

Now lets all join Gort and Sister Sledge in song:


     WE ARE FAMILY..........I GOT ALL MY SISTERS MICK,SEROWBOT, Bill AND ME....WE ARE FAMILY....... ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by bill67 on 05/20/10 at 19:18:10


0B373A0C3426162C193E33333631385F0 wrote:
[quote author=6754524E5354260 link=1274324762/30#34 date=1274403510]You see what I mean?  He is running out of material, and trying to calm the others who have had enough and are complaining.  He will continue posting, but as you can see he feeds on responses, so perhaps the best way to handle him is to no longer comment on his posts.



No one is calming anyone.Once again, too dumb to see the sarcasm. Unreal that you are that dense. You stopped commenting on my posts ages ago....remember? Synopsis ...You try as you will to keep up, but fail miserably. Then announce to everyone to ignore my posts. LOL.....tired of smashing computers, kicking cars, and punching holes in walls? Costing mommy a fortune this week?

Speaking of running out of material, I am sorry you are so boring. This forum plays less than 5% of my life. Too bad it's 90% to 95% of yours. No wonder you repeat yourself over and over.[/quote]
 This forum is only 5% of your life,But its the best part of your life.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by Gort on 05/20/10 at 20:03:03

You know Bill, you have repeatedly demonstrated a brilliant talent for saying in one sentence, what a fool can't say in an entire paragraph.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by Starlifter on 05/20/10 at 20:26:30

I think that what we have here is a person with unaddressed mental health issues.

I believe as was suggested that the best way to handle him is to no longer comment on his posts. In other words he's crazy and it's best not to feed into his psychosis. If ignored he will eventually go away and find another way to express his low self esteem. We can only hope that eventually he will seek help.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by TheSkyIsFalling on 05/20/10 at 21:10:07


654257445A5F50425344360 wrote:
I think that what we have here is a person with unaddressed mental health issues.

I believe as was suggested that the best way to handle him is to no longer comment on his posts. In other words he's crazy and it's best not to feed into his psychosis. If ignored he will eventually go away and find another way to express his low self esteem. We can only hope that eventually he will seek help.


Oh my, I forgot, Starlifter is also part of the Special Ed class. See how he cries out for attention as he is so famous for? Forgive me for not mentioning you with the rest of the SPED's.
Does anyone remember the days when Starlifter cancelled his membership every two days because people put him in his place when he ranted on about politics and religion? Do you remember when he cried about having no real friends? Does anyone remember him coming back every 2 days saying he was suffering from S.A.D. (Seasonal Affective Disorder)  and was depressed with suicidal thoughts, and asking for another chance? Does anyone remember him e-mailing people to get the moderators to re-instate his screen name again because he cancelled it yet again in one of his tantrums, and forgot his password? I remember most of the "old gang" stopped replying to him in fear of upsetting you and being responsible for your well being.  You just described yourself, my friend. I am not the crazy one here, in fact, I am quite sane. Just because someone has a low tolerance threshold for stupidity, it does not mean they are " crazy".....it just means that I am above you in intelligence, and expectations.
I see you finally found your acceptance  group.Too bad you were forced to join the Special Ed crowd. You  are not hopeless, Starlifter.You have potential and some  limited insight. With a few antidepressants you can do much better. Perhaps if you all pool your IQ's, you can top 100, sell to the highest bidder, and buy a comic book store and make something of yourselves. Until then, join your new friends and look at the world from the back seat.  Your opinion doesn't really matter. People stopped listening to you 3 years ago during your bi-polar stage.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by Starlifter on 05/20/10 at 21:47:39

...yawn

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by cornfuzed on 05/20/10 at 22:41:57

Who is this punk? Duder yer gettin under my skin...

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by BurnPgh on 05/21/10 at 01:58:11

Okay....Lets have it out in the clear from someone not involved in this little highschool drama. So...to be blunt, guy...you're being a d1ck. No one here knows what your problem is except MAYBE (apparently) Gort, Mick, Serowbot and yourself. You sound like a 12 year old throwing a tantrum. If you ever did contribute to the forum I figure the disruption you've caused makes the tally about even at this point. And I doubt you've contributed anything useful for a while. If your goal is to disrupt the forum as a whole, it might end up working to be entirely honest, but someone would create another savage forum or two and we'd all gradually migrate there and leave you to say stupid useless irrelevent crap all by your lonesome. If you're goal is to make anyone look foolish you've only shown yourself to be at least as stupid (and this assuming you're entirely correct about every accusation about others. Only losers with no life have the time and drive to attack other losers with no lives). Basically...no one wants you here acting this way. Newbs arent learning anything from this and you're pissing off the old heads. If you are an active and useful member of the forum and you dont like it here anymore, for whatever reason, you're heartily invited to go elsewhere. If you have an issue with individual members address them individually and continue to contribute publicly for others. If you have an issue with the forumas a whole, go away. No one is gaining anything by this. Everyone pretty much thinks you suck. Im not saying to quit sucking...im just saying if you have to suck, dont do so here, in plain sight of everyone. You're obnoxious and offensive. To recap...no one responds to you're posts except to tell you directly or indirectly to go away. Please...go away.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by TheSkyIsFalling on 05/21/10 at 02:44:02


2A233D262C787F4F0 wrote:
Who is this punk? Duder yer gettin under my skin...

Well then don't read the thread, IDIOT. It's a thread for complaining about the forum. Another candidate for the SPED's I see.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by TheSkyIsFalling on 05/21/10 at 02:54:22


7D4A4D516F58573F0 wrote:
Okay....Lets have it out in the clear from someone not involved in this little highschool drama. So...to be blunt, guy...you're being a d1ck. No one here knows what your problem is except MAYBE (apparently) Gort, Mick, Serowbot and yourself. You sound like a 12 year old throwing a tantrum. If you ever did contribute to the forum I figure the disruption you've caused makes the tally about even at this point. And I doubt you've contributed anything useful for a while. If your goal is to disrupt the forum as a whole, it might end up working to be entirely honest, but someone would create another savage forum or two and we'd all gradually migrate there and leave you to say stupid useless irrelevent crap all by your lonesome. If you're goal is to make anyone look foolish you've only shown yourself to be at least as stupid (and this assuming you're entirely correct about every accusation about others. Only losers with no life have the time and drive to attack other losers with no lives). Basically...no one wants you here acting this way. Newbs arent learning anything from this and you're pissing off the old heads. If you are an active and useful member of the forum and you dont like it here anymore, for whatever reason, you're heartily invited to go elsewhere. If you have an issue with individual members address them individually and continue to contribute publicly for others. If you have an issue with the forumas a whole, go away. No one is gaining anything by this. Everyone pretty much thinks you suck. Im not saying to quit sucking...im just saying if you have to suck, dont do so here, in plain sight of everyone. You're obnoxious and offensive. To recap...no one responds to you're posts except to tell you directly or indirectly to go away. Please...go away.


You could have said the same thing in one or two lines. If you don't like the thread, don't read it...As stated before, it is a thread complaining about the forum. if you want roses and daisies, go to another thread. If I am going to be brought into discussions, then I shall defend myself. Not that it's that big of a challenge against a handful of fools. If people like you continue to give their 2 cents worth and involve yourself, then I may reply. If you can't handle that, then put a sock in it.

I have been far less offensive than many of the other posters in this thread, but you overlook that, for the sake of popularity. Another weakling that thinks he will score a few popularity points by kissing a$$. Don't like the crust, don't buy the pie, it's pretty simple.

And contrary to your claims, MOST forum members agree with me, but don't want to get involved. The nilly willies like you will whine and act all politically correct, but hey arsehole, who asked you to read it. If you don't like the content then steer away. Otherwise, shut the he!! up. My posts take up far less space than most of the crap posted on this forum.
The funny thing is, I have had many pm's sent agreeing with me. Don't speak for everyone, because a handful of fools who think bombarding a MOTORCYCLE forum with JUNK is acceptable. When others start following the rules, then i will kindly oblige. Until we reach that point, I will type as I darn well please.
So once again, fool, if you don't like the content, STOP reading the thread. It's not like I have posted in them all.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by cornfuzed on 05/21/10 at 13:41:10


370B0630081A2A1025020F0F0A0D04630 wrote:
[quote author=2A233D262C787F4F0 link=1274324762/30#43 date=1274420517]Who is this punk? Duder yer gettin under my skin...

Well then don't read the thread, IDIOT. It's a thread for complaining about the forum. Another candidate for the SPED's I see.[/quote]

Hmm makes me wonder if you would be this bold in person with me .. boy... Dont take much bravado to type... I say yer yellow with no spine..  wait.. lemme hazard a guess.. yer gonna say something putrid ... still behind a keyboard... I think Star was right... .YAWN....

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by tcreeley on 05/21/10 at 14:57:37

....who cares...it is fun to read! :D

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by verslagen1 on 05/21/10 at 16:49:32


34233225252C2539400 wrote:
....who cares...it is fun to read! :D

+1

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by thumperclone on 05/21/10 at 16:58:01


5F48594E4E474E522B0 wrote:
....who cares...it is fun to read! :D

like reading micks' or bills" posts!!

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by BurnPgh on 05/21/10 at 19:33:57

Ive got to agree. Its fun in a twisted kind of way. If it werent no one would bother responding but i have to admit its interesting in the same way a car crash is. Messed up a bit, but still interesting...to a point. As far as the original  post....I only hop on the tall table once or twice in a blue moon. Too much going on to follow. I started to get into a political discussion way back when and had a nice long reply that got deleted and i figured I wasnt going to change anyone political beliefs anyway so I just let it go and havent bothered to go back. Still...I was under the impression the tall table was for unsavory issues and the cafe for non-moto related issues. Theres very little in the cafe that bothers or offends me.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by mick on 05/21/10 at 20:14:08

As far as I know we have two moderators, one is SLUGGO and the other is SAVAGE ROB, they never intervene no matter how bad the offender is,my question "Why do we even have them?"
the only thing that comes to mind is that Sluggo and Savage Rob are in fact in this thing together as the weirdo poster. they never admit or deny, they never look at the content the weirdo's messages ,or try to delete them, being moderators they can easily find out who is ,but that would be like owning up,aint that so boys ?
I think the offender should eat dirt and die, without a priest or a vicar close by.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by verslagen1 on 05/21/10 at 20:36:27

accusing people w/o a shred of evidence is useless mick
even though they most likely capable of doing it, I doubt they would be inclined too, unless they went off the deep end.
more likely they'd toy with you by deleting your posts or editing them in humiliating ways.
and if they really got tired of you, push a button and you'd be gone.

so most likely this is someone outside the inner circle that's found a way to hack in.

so play nice or learn to live with the bigX watching you.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by mick on 05/21/10 at 20:51:40


253621203F3234363D62530 wrote:
accusing people w/o a shred of evidence is useless mick
even though they most likely capable of doing it, I doubt they would be inclined too, unless they went off the deep end.
more likely they'd toy with you by deleting your posts or editing them in humiliating ways.
and if they really got tired of you, push a button and you'd be gone.

so most likely this is someone outside the inner circle that's found a way to hack in.

so play nice or learn to live with the bigX watching you.

So Vers if they can push a button and I would be gone,why didn't they do that to "the sky is falling" ?
And who is the big X ?
And why arent they doing there job ?
Is it because I'm an athiest (and proud of it) ?
or are  they upset because I have spent more time on bikes than they have on there feet ? and can prove it with photos.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by Gort on 05/21/10 at 21:40:57

Exactly.  If they didn't approve of it, they would delete his obscenities.  This forum is wide open and anything goes.  I hope he is enjoying all my latest posts.  There are a whole lot more to come, thanks to his inspiration.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by Serowbot on 05/21/10 at 23:03:17

Calling this "ex-member",... "Big X",... just pumps more air up his grandiose arsehole...
This wussy can only call anyone out, using an alias for his alias...

"Ex-member" has stones the size of BB's...
Cornfuzed called him out,... and got more BB's in response...
Every member that has responded here, has done so without hiding under an "ex", and has called this troll out for hate monger he is...

Don't dignify his antics with a "big" anything unless it's an arsehole or ego...

Seriously,... I'm here to share and care,... and have some laughs...
WTF good are you?...

If you don't like me,.. don't click my posts...
Just let others have the option too..
Don't be such a ......... :-X...

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by SSWatchdog on 05/22/10 at 04:05:33

Lets all review for a momemt, for the mentaly challenged folks who are not getting it.

The name "TheSkyIsFalling" was made in mockery of Gort aand Mick saying people are hacking pm's and blaming random people daily.

Lets all read back and see who hurled obscenities........Pretty much everyone, with mine being the milder. May I also add, many were hurled before I even joined the discussion. But I guess it's acceptable if you have had the name GORT or Serowbot for a while, even though it's not your REAL name. Thank's for clearing that up for me.

Pretty much everyone here is under an alias. So let me get this straight......It's acceptable to disrespect others under an old alias, but make a new alias and you are a monster.....Ummmmm OK, I got it...People like confuzed call people yellow, and says they wouldn't tell him off to his face, yet he does it under the name cornfuzed.....That in itself is too darn funny. Serowbot follows along and gets his nipples all erect, making cornfuzud out to be a hero......see how ludicrous this all is.....

Once again, when you all start slinging your insults under your real names, then you matter, Until then I am doing the EXACT same thing as you are. The only difference is my name is newer, and changed often. Most of you spend so darn much time online you are seeing the world through the Internet and your rose colored glasses. Get out and get some sunshine, if your feeble bodies can handle it. I am sure some of you have been holed up in basements so long, you will need to adapt slowly.

Now as I take the family away for a few days, go ahead and whine and pregnant dog about how much of a monster I am. I won't see it, I will be out in the real world, talking to real faces with real names. I will bring  back a souvenirs of the real world for Gort and his sob sisters, to stick to their  monitors.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by mick on 05/22/10 at 06:50:40


7C7C784E5B4C474B40482F0 wrote:
Lets all review for a momemt, for the mentaly challenged folks who are not getting it.

The name "TheSkyIsFalling" was made in mockery of Gort aand Mick saying people are hacking pm's and blaming random people daily.

Lets all read back and see who hurled obscenities........Pretty much everyone, with mine being the milder. May I also add, many were hurled before I even joined the discussion. But I guess it's acceptable if you have had the name GORT or Serowbot for a while, even though it's not your REAL name. Thank's for clearing that up for me.

Pretty much everyone here is under an alias. So let me get this straight......It's acceptable to disrespect others under an old alias, but make a new alias and you are a monster.....Ummmmm OK, I got it...People like confuzed call people yellow, and says they wouldn't tell him off to his face, yet he does it under the name cornfuzed.....That in itself is too darn funny. Serowbot follows along and gets his nipples all erect, making cornfuzud out to be a hero......see how ludicrous this all is.....

Once again, when you all start slinging your insults under your real names, then you matter, Until then I am doing the EXACT same thing as you are. The only difference is my name is newer, and changed often. Most of you spend so darn much time online you are seeing the world through the Internet and your rose colored glasses. Get out and get some sunshine, if your feeble bodies can handle it. I am sure some of you have been holed up in basements so long, you will need to adapt slowly.

Now as I take the family away for a few days, go ahead and whine and pregnant dog about how much of a monster I am. I won't see it, I will be out in the real world, talking to real faces with real names. I will bring  back a souvenirs of the real world for Gort and his sob sisters, to stick to their  monitors.

now this is strange, at 6:30 AM I logged on and saw that the last poster was John D fso, so I clicked on it ,low and behold it was the whacko,weirdo.   I went back to make sure ,and the same thing happened,and at exactly the same time right to the second.
So being a nice guy I will not accuse him of being the coward,(I use my real name,whats your excuse?), So what is going on John ?
you post very early in the morning ,I click on YOUR NAME "John D FSO" and up came the ex member, blasting all he doesn't like,in a very cowardly way, well you live in the next state to me,and you know were I live,you said you are going away with your family,pop down to
McMinnville drop in for a drink,no booze I'm afraid,just tea or coffee or juice.Try not to be afraid it's just me ,with one paralyzed hand.see you soon.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by Serowbot on 05/22/10 at 07:24:35


Quote:
I am doing the EXACT same thing as you are. The only difference is my name is newer, and changed often.


'Fraid not, Buttwipe...  You use information you've gathered here about others to attack them, but hide your own information behind your false identity...  and you seem to spend a huge amount of time piecing these gossipy tidbits into a distorted fantasy of others real lives... (me thinks you could use a little sunshine too!)
You like to fight with an unfair advantage...
You are a coward...

... and what is with you and these homo-erotic references?... (erect nipples?)...
Just quit repressing and let your freak flag fly...

Clue,... I'm not gay... and I'm not intimidated or afraid of you calling me gay... because I'm not a homophobe or a closet case either...
You, on the other hand, clearly have a real problem with some repressed sexual issues...
Now hurry over to rentboy.com and release some of this pent up frustration you have...
Go on,... you know where it is... it's in your bookmarks...

;D...

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by Serowbot on 05/22/10 at 07:41:59

The entertainment value of this is fading fast...

Dipwad can't stop,... so I think I may have to...
What pisses me off,... is he'll think he's the victor, when really he's just tiresome...
:-?...



Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by bill67 on 05/22/10 at 09:09:40

Some day John Doucebag will come out of the closet.fairy soon,Maybe next week.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by BurnPgh on 05/22/10 at 10:56:45

What gets me is that the constant name changing. If it were two regular members with their regular handles arguing like this it would be a bit different because it could be clearly seen and traced back what exactly happened to start the arguing. People pick sides by nature, and knowing the reason behind the squabble would allow one to make a relatively educated decision about who is "right" or "wrong" in the dispute. As it is though...its just some guy that no one has any known connection to jumping in at random to act like an a$$ for no apparent reason. And it isnt even "this is why Im mad and why you're wrong". Heated arguements like that have taken place here that were no less disruptive and it evetually calmed down and was worked out or members agreed to disagree. This instance though is just "you're an idiot, and a loser, and a f*g, and now Im going to switch my name and say all the same things over again". Doesnt make sense.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by Serowbot on 05/22/10 at 11:15:39

Exactly right Burn,...
...and,.. sadly, we are probably nice and friendly to this two-face in his hidden identity, because we don't know what a hateful person he really is...
He knows full well, if he said these things openly he would be despised by all...  yet he doesn't want to leave... so he hides his hate in the closet...
What a cockroach...

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by Gort on 05/22/10 at 11:58:17

Here are some clues to his ID:

1.  He has brought up many things that go back 2 years.

2. He has stated that Verslagen is one of the kindest people you
   could meet.

3. He has complained that Bikemom was brought to tears over
   posts that exposed her.  He has stated that she and he are good
   friends.

4.  He has consistently done and said things that reveal that he
    has a considerable technical knowledge of how this site works
    and how to manipulate it.  He has demonstrated that he can
    access the PM section of this site, and has read other member's
    PMs.
   

5.  He displays a good command of vocabulary, and a talent for
    creative writing, usually not found in someone unless they
    are well educated.  It is also useful to note that some of the
    members who have been on this site for 2 or more years,
    often post using a folksy slang and misspelling, while in their
     other posts (especially when they are angry), they write
     using proper English with good sentence construction.  This
     member may be posting most of the time using sloppy
     folksy English while using his real Handle, and then using proper
     English when hiding behind a fake name, in order to mislead.
     
     

6.  He violated every rule of the Forum, and was first to use
    highly descriptive sexual attacks and sexual obscenities,
    without deletion by the moderators.  He therefore has
     their approval and cooperation.              

   It is reasonable to conclude that he has been a member
   for at least 2 years, acting alone or helping a less
   able malcontent.  He is fairly well educated.  He has a
   detailed knowledge of how to manipulate this site, or
   is working with a moderator to accomplish this.  Or, he
   is a moderator.  In any case, he hides behind his
   many fake names because if he used his member name,
   he would expose himself to the scorn of other members
   who are disgusted with his hatred and obscenities.

   The field of candidates could be narrowed down by looking
   at the member list of names of everyone who has been
   here for at least 2 years.  

   


Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by BurnPgh on 05/22/10 at 12:03:57

who ever it is at least they're gone for the weekend. I still dont understand the why. Im more interested in the why than the who. Im also bored of discussing it at the moment.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by verslagen1 on 05/22/10 at 12:15:06

gee that would narrow it down to... 8000 members

You might further narrow it down to a dozen members that've at least said they've managed a forum.

But I think it's someone who's talents are newly found.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by Gort on 05/22/10 at 12:17:28

The why is simple.  He started his nonsense after the Bikemom
controversy, and bitterly ranted about that for some time.  That issue took up parts of his posts.  He then later moved on to various other random attacks.   Somehow he is connected with the Bikemom issue, and is friends with those involved with it.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by verslagen1 on 05/22/10 at 12:21:29

he keeps sayin' you live in your mom's basement,
I don't recall you sayin' it so must be either before my time or missed it.
Who was active at that time?

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by Gort on 05/22/10 at 12:38:44

Play your games with someone else.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by bill67 on 05/22/10 at 12:57:58

He's divorced and he has his kids for the weekend,It can only be one person and his name has already been said here,And he did say on one post that  he was divorced and didn't seem to happy about it.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by mick on 05/22/10 at 13:46:22


505B5E5E0405320 wrote:
He's divorced and he has his kids for the weekend,It can only be one person and his name has already been said here,And he did say on one post that  he was divorced and didn't seem to happy about it.

Ok bill who is your guess ?

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by bill67 on 05/22/10 at 13:53:31

John D FSO  Just wait and see if he posts this weekend.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by mick on 05/22/10 at 14:00:00


616A6F6F3534030 wrote:
John D FSO  Just wait and see if he posts this weekend.

It's a wise man that you are Billy boy, go to the top of the class.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by verslagen1 on 05/22/10 at 14:34:45


7D76737329281F0 wrote:
He's divorced and he has his kids for the weekend,It can only be one person and his name has already been said here,And he did say on one post that  he was divorced and didn't seem to happy about it.

just to be clear (which I know you excel at) can you quote the references that you site?
That way he won't be able to edit out the incriminating evidence.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by bill67 on 05/22/10 at 14:45:31

 I just have a good memory.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by verslagen1 on 05/22/10 at 15:23:37


000B0E0E5455620 wrote:
 I just have a good memory.

sorry that ain't gonna do.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by Serowbot on 05/22/10 at 15:23:40

Nope. it's not John,... he seems like a nice enough guy...
... and he had the guts to complain, right up front on this post...

..and he also said this... so he don't hate me and Gort...

Quote:
I still check in, hoping for some amusing goodies from Gort or Serowbot, but pretty much skip the rest.


He likes,.. he really likes me!... ;D ;D ;D...


PS,.. let's not start a witch hunt,...  the Dipwad would just love it if we did that...
Don't give him the satisfaction, and it's not fair to all the good people here...
Dipwad will either have to grow a pair and fess up,... or remain as the bottom-feeder of the site... and live with himself...

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by RidgeRunner13 on 05/22/10 at 15:45:17

I knew a guy that I thought was a good friend. Brought his car to me for repairs, acted really nice to my face. He was on the zoning board & was trying to get the zoning changed where it would be impossible for me to keep my business open, even though where I am is zoned commercial. >:(
Some one else clued us in on what was going on & we were able to go before the board & get his nonsense stopped. ;D

In another instance, a guy who was a close friend for over ten years, sabotaged 2 bikes & tried to do the same to my truck. He stole a gun, some of my tools, half a dozen business checks, & a car I was trying to sell & disappeared. He did this on the same day my wifes' boss died. :-?

I don't know who is doing this crap & don't really care. I find the rantings of a lunatic don't have any real effect on my life.
Now, if this idiot wants to add me to his list of people to insult, that's just fine by me. It will only become a REAL problem if he shows up at my door.

BTW, I vote for HIM to "leave the island'.
Maybe someone can set up a poll & he can see who approves of his actions.

Makes you wonder just who you can trust. :-/

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by mick on 05/22/10 at 19:36:42



And contrary to your claims, MOST forum members agree with me, but don't want to get involved. The nilly willies like you will whine and act all politically correct, but hey arsehole, who asked you to read it. If you don't like the content then steer away. Otherwise, shut the he!! up. My posts take up far less space than most of the crap posted on this forum.
The funny thing is, I have had many pm's sent agreeing with me. Don't speak for everyone, because a handful of fools who think bombarding a MOTORCYCLE forum with JUNK is acceptable. When others start following the rules, then i will kindly oblige. Until we reach that point, I will type as I darn well please.
So once again, fool, if you don't like the content, STOP reading the thread. It's not like I have posted in them all.[/quote]
.....................................................................................................
How do we PM you ? you say you get many PMs, but you have no profile. by the way I use my correct name ,why don't you ? are you just a coward ,or as I suspect gay as a lark,being gay would explain allot,ex member ,mmmmmmmm couldn't handle a bike ,did you quit SS.com because fell off and hurt yourself,little people like yourself should stay away from big bikes,get something with peddles on it next time.
You know my name,you know where I live ,just pm me and I will give you my exact address and phone number. you live close to me ,so drop on by,I would just love to meet you. my 5 kids are coming to visit you can get to meet them as well,would you like that,oh sh1t I hope you not a pedophile on top of all your other problems,my kids are all grown but I do have a sh1t load of grandchildren, I'm afraid I cant risk having you near them ,so perhaps another time .
just pm me.come on down,to my basement, it's only 75 feet deep.             Mick aka Michael,Dayton Or.
now lets see you act like a big boy,quit being so scared,I'm 72 years old I cant hurt you  ;)

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by BurnPgh on 05/22/10 at 21:40:00

72? And your dad just turned 90 right? Man he was a young little pup when he had you wasnt he?

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by John_D FSO on 05/24/10 at 22:01:32

Wow, I don't check in for a couple days, and all of a sudden, I'm fingered as the "bad guy".  Gee thanks guys! ::)  And a genuine thank you to 'bot, as long as I've been posting on here, he's apparently the only one who's paid enough attention to my posts to be able to judge a little of my character.  Yeah, you're all gonna say "but you can post any kind of character you want".  You'd be giving me way too much credit.  I post it like I see it, to mangle a phrase.  I don't even know how to make a fake ID on here, and I wouldn't anyway.  I've always tried to live by the Golden Rule, and that includes how I treat people online.  I came on here originally to learn about my first bike, and I've stayed on here because I liked the quality of people that are on here.  Don't go making me change my mind about that last one.
Oh, and from what my understanding on the matter is, if someone creates a new name, posts on a thread, and then closes that account, the "last post" is credited to the thread creator.  Anyone know if I'm right?  'Cause I'm getting sick of being accused of stuff by people I've always treated with respect.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by babyhog on 05/25/10 at 06:54:19


3324252F24222A7673707173410 wrote:
Wow, I don't check in for a couple days, and all of a sudden, I'm fingered as the "bad guy".  Gee thanks guys! ::)  And a genuine thank you to 'bot, as long as I've been posting on here, he's apparently the only one who's paid enough attention to my posts to be able to judge a little of my character.  Yeah, you're all gonna say "but you can post any kind of character you want".  You'd be giving me way too much credit.  I post it like I see it, to mangle a phrase.  I don't even know how to make a fake ID on here, and I wouldn't anyway.  I've always tried to live by the Golden Rule, and that includes how I treat people online.  I came on here originally to learn about my first bike, and I've stayed on here because I liked the quality of people that are on here.  Don't go making me change my mind about that last one.
Oh, and from what my understanding on the matter is, if someone creates a new name, posts on a thread, and then closes that account, the "last post" is credited to the thread creator.  Anyone know if I'm right?  'Cause I'm getting sick of being accused of stuff by people I've always treated with respect.


Dang John, I was gonna post in your defense, and agree about the "last poster" thing too, but you beat me to it.  I'm sorry.

John_D is not one of the people I would suspect.  I haven't been around that long, but I think you are barking up the wrong tree with John.  

Mystery poster doesn't bother me in the least.  Makes me think... but doesn't necessarily change my opinion of anyone either.  I make up my mind about people for myself.  He/she has a right to his/her opinion, and this is a public forum.  Have at it...  But I don't like attacks on individuals that you don't have facts to back up with.  The truth will come out eventually, or the mystery person will disappear.  I'm ok either way. 

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by BurnPgh on 05/25/10 at 12:53:25

My bet is on bikemom herself. She did say she had some mental issues going on. Which is a shame because I do think Gort and Mick were out of line in speaking to her the way they did, but she did leave voluntarily and theirbehavior at the time is no excuse for out mystery posters behavior now.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by mick on 05/25/10 at 12:57:28


192E29350B3C335B0 wrote:
72? And your dad just turned 90 right? Man he was a young little pup when he had you wasnt he?

my Dad turned 95 on the 10th of may,born 1915. he was 21, when I was born,

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by Gort on 05/25/10 at 13:13:09


4A7D7A66586F60080 wrote:
My bet is on bikemom herself. She did say she had some mental issues going on. Which is a shame because I do think Gort and Mick were out of line in speaking to her the way they did, but she did leave voluntarily and theirbehavior at the time is no excuse for out mystery posters behavior now.




Bikemom was taking member's $ and lying about her need for it.  I quoted the posts in which she kept contradicting herself about her true situation.  I got involved because Verslagen sent a PM to the members and me, asking us to send her $.  When I got attacked for doing that, I responded in like to my attackers, no matter who they were.  Just reading her posts shows that she has some type of depression and she admitted to severe anxiety attacks.  But that doesn't excuse taking people's $ when clearly by her own contradicting posts there was no need.  Furthermore, her husband was involved with all this and if he had any consideration for his wife's serious mental condition, he would never have allowed her to continue in any controversial discussions on any Internet site.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by mick on 05/25/10 at 13:15:52


5641404A41474F1316151416240 wrote:
Wow, I don't check in for a couple days, and all of a sudden, I'm fingered as the "bad guy".  Gee thanks guys! ::)  And a genuine thank you to 'bot, as long as I've been posting on here, he's apparently the only one who's paid enough attention to my posts to be able to judge a little of my character.  Yeah, you're all gonna say "but you can post any kind of character you want".  You'd be giving me way too much credit.  I post it like I see it, to mangle a phrase.  I don't even know how to make a fake ID on here, and I wouldn't anyway.  I've always tried to live by the Golden Rule, and that includes how I treat people online.  I came on here originally to learn about my first bike, and I've stayed on here because I liked the quality of people that are on here.  Don't go making me change my mind about that last one.
Oh, and from what my understanding on the matter is, if someone creates a new name, posts on a thread, and then closes that account, the "last post" is credited to the thread creator.  Anyone know if I'm right?  'Cause I'm getting sick of being accused of stuff by people I've always treated with respect.

It was partly my fault I was becoming convinced you were not the SSWatchdog before serowbot intervened ,first let me apologise I'm very sorry, I like to think serobot is a friend and if he says its not you
that is good enough for me.
Please let me explain, I logged on early one morning (last friday) you had posted something at 5 something am, I just clicked on your name to see what you had written,and up popped the SSWatchdog, I tried it again ,same thing happened ,I was about to write to this piece off garbage ,so I tried a third time this time your posting came up???
what was I to think ? then both Gort and Serowbot told me that this wierdo can slide in on anyones posting after he is finished it always reverts back to the origional poster.Once again I'm sorry for jumping the gun,I hope you accept my apology.
This creep is making me sick. I have offered to meet him,but alas he is a coward , believe it or not I have been in this country almost 50 years this guy is the first AMERICAN  COWARD. I have ever known.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by Serowbot on 05/25/10 at 13:37:26

BTW,..  John,...  I've been wondering,...
I think FSO is supposed to tell me something,.. I've seen it after a few peoples names...
So I did a search...


Quote:
Acronym      Definition
FSO      Free Space Optics
FSO      File System Object (Microsoft)
FSO      Free Space Optical
FSO      Full Scale Output
FSO      Federal Statistical Office (Germany)
FSO      Foreign Service Officer
FSO      Floating Storage and Offloading (supertankers usually used for oil shipping)
FSO      Fire Support Officer
FSO      Flag Service Organization (Scientology)
FSO      Fund for Special Operations
FSO      Freesmartphone
FSO      Fabryka Samochodow Osobowych (Poland passenger automobile factory)
FSO      Family Support Organization
FSO      Floating Storage Offloading
FSO      Flotilla Staff Officer
FSO      Field Security Operations
FSO      Flight Safety Officer
FSO      Flagstaff Symphony Orchestra (Flagstaff, Arizona)
FSO      Financial Services Officer
FSO      Forum Support Organisation
FSO      Field Security Office
FSO      Flint Symphony Orchestra (Flint, Michigan)
FSO      Food Service Officer
FSO      Field Security Officer (United Nations)
FSO      Full Spectrum Operations
FSO      First Star Online (game)
FSO      Fox Sports Ohio
FSO      Federalnaya Sluzhba Okhrany (Russian: Federal Security Organization; successor of GUO and SBP)
FSO      For Services Of
FSO      Field Service Office
FSO      Field Service Officer
FSO      Financial Services of Ontario
FSO      Family Service Ontario
FSO      Fleet Support Operations
FSO      Full Service Office
FSO      Facilities Service Office (USPS)
FSO      Field Sales Office
FSO      Fail-Safe Open
FSO      Firewall Security Officer
FSO      Flight Surgeon's Office
FSO      Fleet Support Officer
FSO      Fuel Service Option (automobile rental)
FSO      Fuel Supply Office
FSO      Facilities and Services for Older Persons
FSO      Facility Security Officer/Supervisor
FSO      Form, Space, and Order
FSO      Facility Support Operator
FSO      Field Service Orders (accounting software)
FSO      Freshman Scholarship Options
FSO      Factory Shipping Order
FSO      Free Standing Option (new vehicle option that is not sold as part of a package)
FSO      For Spares Order
FSO      Force Structure Option
FSO      Fixed Site of Operation
FSO      Financial Sanctions Officer

;D ;D ;D...

Okay?... I give up... What's it mean?... :-?...

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by verslagen1 on 05/25/10 at 13:56:57

FSO = Former Savage Owner
and in some instances...
      = Former S40 Owner

since you have to own a savage or s40 to be somebody, sooo...

FSO = Former SOmebody

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by Serowbot on 05/25/10 at 14:26:30


667562637C7177757E21100 wrote:
FSO = Former Savage Owner
and in some instances...
      = Former S40 Owner


Cheezy whilickers!...  
That wasn't even on my list... :-?...

My guess was he worked on a boat... ;D ;D ;D...

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by BurnPgh on 05/25/10 at 19:51:11


5A696F736E691B0 wrote:
[quote author=4A7D7A66586F60080 link=1274324762/75#83 date=1274817205]My bet is on bikemom herself. She did say she had some mental issues going on. Which is a shame because I do think Gort and Mick were out of line in speaking to her the way they did, but she did leave voluntarily and theirbehavior at the time is no excuse for out mystery posters behavior now.




Bikemom was taking member's $ and lying about her need for it.  I quoted the posts in which she kept contradicting herself about her true situation.  I got involved because Verslagen sent a PM to the members and me, asking us to send her $.  When I got attacked for doing that, I responded in like to my attackers, no matter who they were.  Just reading her posts shows that she has some type of depression and she admitted to severe anxiety attacks.  But that doesn't excuse taking people's $ when clearly by her own contradicting posts there was no need.  Furthermore, her husband was involved with all this and if he had any consideration for his wife's serious mental condition, he would never have allowed her to continue in any controversial discussions on any Internet site.[/quote]

I didnt really follow the whole thing too closely. I did see the request for funds and I did see the allegations of contradicting herself but I didnt read too deeply into it. Having had mental issues in the past myself I was sympathetic to a point. Its easy for someone with depression and anxiety to contradict themselves or even become so confused in your own life that one thing said is just as true as the opposite. Im not saying what you did was the wrong thing necessarily ( i geuss I did say that but it wasnt quite what I meant) but that it was done in an agressive manner that can be very damaging and less than productive to one who is mentally ill. The result could be (and I think ended up being) vengeful outbursts, or worse. Even if you were entirely wrong I certainly wasnt sending any money. No one sent me any money when I went nutty. Basically, I dont think she was a scam artist. Just messed up. And I dont think that she shouldve asked for money. I also think the situation was a lot of gray and no black and white and that it couldve been handled more tactfully by all those involved. Kind of irrelevent at this point but I wanted to explain myself. Hopefully we've got no bad blood between us now. Different perspectives is all.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by Gort on 05/25/10 at 21:22:34

Of course there is no bad blood between us.  I always enjoy your posts.

The coward poster has pursued an ongoing attack of several people including me, using out of context partial quotes, mis-quotes, false quotes, numerous lies, and exaggerations concerning this issue.  He does all this with considerable skill, and those unfamiliar with the details of this matter might be confused as to the truth.  That is why I responded to your post.  

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by mick on 05/25/10 at 21:43:14

And please Gort and Burnphd, do not forget our moderators who don't.
Mr Sluggo and Mr Savage_Rob,who can at there discresion remove it
or stop it ,they also know who the offender is,by name .
So they are going along with it and happy to do it. In my haste to find out who this coward is I have accused others just for just seeming suspicious,I have apologized. I should not have to do that, the moderators  know who the offender is,why don't they give him up,
Probably they are scared because the offender has something on them. or they are also cowards. there is one more person who knows who this wierdo is,the mysterious John, I don't know if he would sink this low,but I suppose it is possable.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by BurnPgh on 05/25/10 at 22:54:51

I doubt its the mods. They dont moderate anything and Ive only seen either of them once or twice. Maybe. I might just remember seeing their posts reading way back which I tend to do come winter. My geuss is whoever owns this site and pays for it to operate has it taken out automatically from their account and maybe stops in every now and then to make sure the place is still active. The site's been here a good while. People's priorities change. I dont think the official mods hang around much anymore and didnt bother to pass along the position when they drifted off. The "mods" anymore pretty much include maybe a dozen people who've been here long enough and done enough with this bike to have authority in what they say because they know what they're talking about and have contributed to the community. Thats Old Feller, Lancer, Verslagen, Bill 67, Paladin, Mick, Gort, Ed L, John_D, Serowbot, Jerry Eichen-something and a few others I cant think of right now. IMO. The forum has a unique blend of personalities that tends to keep everything in balance for the most part. Very tribal and very successful thus far.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by mick on 05/26/10 at 02:44:30

in that case Burnpgh I think the moderators should hold an election and let us pick out two new moderators, sound like a plan ?
that way hopefully there will be no old cronieship,I guess first thing would be to have a vote on this idea.  I bet "sky is falling" is getting nervious as we speak.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by John_D FSO on 05/26/10 at 04:53:27

Thanks Mick, appology accepted. [smiley=beer.gif]  I'd have thought something funny was going on in that situation too.  Just glad there's no bad blood between me and everyone, because I really enjoy coming on here to see what the latest jokes and goings on are.

And thanks to you too Piglet!  I'm glad I wasn't just imagining things about that last poster thing, I know I saw it on here somewhere.  Dangit, I'm not old enough to start forgetting things!  Now where'd I put that dang remote... :-/

And yep 'bot, FSO is for Former Savage Owner.  Or I guess it could also be Future Savage Owner too, because I told myself when i traded it in, I'd get another someday.  Just couldn't stop with it as my first bike though, I wanna try a bunch! ;D

And thanks BurnPgh, I actually consider it pretty neat to be considered one of the people who "knows what he's talking about".  Whether or not I fit that description is certainly up for debate! ::)

Anyway, thanks everyone.  Seeya in the funny pages (Kenny's posts! ;D).

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by SSWatchDog on 05/26/10 at 15:02:40

Goodness, you housebound losers just get dumber and dumber as time passes. I am away for nearly a week and now I have hacked a forum? LOL, too funny!  Have none of you been outside at all? Lots of time to dream up different scenarios?
That is too sad...really, it is. It does shock me that I have made that much of an impact on your pathetic little lives though. I will always remain a legend, and you people will ramble on for weeks or months after I am gone. Maybe as you hang on my every word and re-read my posts, brain osmosis may occur and some of you may actually have some hope for a  future.

I see Gort is still whining and obsessing over me as usual. Everyone darn well knows that he is the sexually deviant pervert here in which I have posted a LONG and incomplete list of your descriptive sexual posts. In fact, if one goes to his photobucket account and searches the ID he uses there, they will come across several Straight, bisexual, and gay  forums and websites in which he belongs to, or was chased out of. Many of these forums containing explicit sexual content and him begging for members to send you pictures or links of content you cannot access without a credit card, in which he clearly do not have. Of course he would need a job and an income to apply for credit. I am sure he will run and change or alter his ID  on photobucket now, as he sweats like the greasy little slime-ball he is. Seems Gort's afternoon and evening is pre-planned for him.........LOL
.
So Gort,if you are going to blame someone else for your sick aggression, at least cover your darn tracks before you do it. By looks of some of these forums you belonged to, you caused lots of trouble in many of them also, and were run out of most of them.

The reason I have NOT been banned from this forum is I have broke far less rules than you. If you care to hit the "register" button and read the terms of service" page, you have in fact broken EVERY rule, multiple times, and for months and months. So why haven't you been banned????? You have name called, harassed women, posted sexual content almost daily, created sexually explicit pictures of your latent homosexual fantasies about Mick, and other infractions too numerous to mention. So why would a moderator ban me and not you and Mick and your little whiny effeminate friend sore-o-butt? You and Mick are notorious for cursing, attacking women, name calling, etc....So, should I ask that you be banned? You have been far more offensive than I ever dreamed of being.
Nowhere does it state that I cannot change my name as I see fit. Once again, fool, MOST of us are under an alias. Whether one uses the same alias or 500 aliases, it's still an alias. I don't need any one's permission to do so, and when you all start posting under your real names, then I will also. What are you not getting?  YOU ARE DOING THE SAME THING AS ME, ONLY YOU ARE FAR MORE CONSISTANT AT IT AND FAR MORE BRUTAL! If the moderators find reason to ban me, then they find reason to ban several others. This place would be an Internet ghost town.
In the event that a moderator even gave two $hits who I was, what are they going to do? I have not threatened anyone nor done anything against the law. Nothing any different than many of you. Are they going to scold me and ban me from the site?...Even if they were capable, which they aren't,I can just come back 2 seconds later if I wish. Today I am in the UK, last week I was in Australia, and I could be in Canada tomorrow if I so choose.
News flash People, exposing creeps, woman abusers, perverts, bullies and a$$holes is NOT against the law.If you are on a public forum and fighting with someone, scream harassment all you wish, and the police will just tell you to get a life, and hang up in your ear, as they laugh their heads off. After all, even if it was investigated, they would soon see that it was just a free for all with NO innocent parties. By the way, I guess I will back up particular threads on disk, so when Gort deletes content, as he often does, I have the posts.

By the way, BIKEMOM did NOT ask anyone for money. Another lie you made up. Members tried to help her by taking donations and she made it clear several times that she just needed to vent and donations were not necessary. She was a very popular member until you spun your web of lies and distorted facts, twisted truths, altered posts, and basically screwed her over....The same thing you accuse others of doing. You exploited this and attacked the poor gal, when she was weak and vulnerable. Anyone that witnessed this,speaks to you, or calls you a friend, needs their head examined.

And as a side note to Mick, you're a functionally illiterate moron. How someone can be that dumb and not realize it is beyond comprehension. You sling accusations as the wind blows.The fact that you can actually use a computer is very shocking. If I were half as stupid as you I would take a swan dive off the first bridge I found. I wonder how many people here have seen your criminal record sheet which dates back several years and 4 towns in California. No wonder you were married 5 or 6  times. A little slap happy while intoxicated were we?  Net Detective is a wonderful site! Keep up your crap and I wouldn't be shocked if it leaked into the forum. I of course would not look or read it, as it would be a darn shame that anyone would do such a thing!  What would people think? Oh of course, that person would be called a liar!  

I am done trying to reason with people who refuse to listen . I have far more important things to do than try to educate those that refuse to see the forest for the trees. You keyboard- kooks have stolen far too much of my  valuable time.

It would seem that Gort's life span on a public forum averages 6 to 8 months before he is chased out. He is overdue for a major blow up..........Don't say I didn't warn you.

PS: If any of you basement dwelling losers want a day out, I will gladly donate a few bucks in the name of charity,  so you can at least stuff street-side hot dogs into your face for half an hour, until you're asked to move on, as mothers hide their children;s eyes and tell them not to stare.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by bill67 on 05/26/10 at 15:45:30

+1

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by mick on 05/26/10 at 17:27:59


072534306A1B162B2A440 wrote:
Thank you John. My sentiments exactly.

if you took the time to notice you would see that John did not write the above. it was Savage_rob

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by verslagen1 on 05/26/10 at 18:36:30


4040447267707B577C74130 wrote:
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

we have enough of those around here already.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by mick on 05/26/10 at 19:26:18


4D5E4948575A5C5E550A3B0 wrote:
[quote author=4040447267707B577C74130 link=1274324762/90#96 date=1274911360]LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

we have enough of those around here already.[/quote]

                                           ?

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by BurnPgh on 05/26/10 at 19:43:40

Mick...how you do you figure it's Rob based on "John"? If it were Rob why wouldnt he just show up as Rob? If he disliked the forum as it is he's a mod...so why wouldnt he just moderate? If he didnt like the forum in general why not just stay disappeared?

D!ck - No one cares if Gort's a pervert or if Micks got a rap sheet. They usually arent purposefully irritating. They might post something offensive but it's generally for entertainment. Not to intentionally pis$ someone off as you do.

My name is Devin. I live in Penn Hills Pennsylvania. Im 22 years old. I watch porn. I break the law. And you're still a d!ck.
So now who are you? Got a real name?
Im not too proud to take your money. Cash, check, M/O. PM me and I'll send you my address. Surely someone so succesful and intelligent as yourself has a spare $100? $150? I really like street vendor hot dogs.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by John_D FSO on 05/27/10 at 00:35:32


4473746856616E060 wrote:
Mick...how you do you figure it's Rob based on "John"? If it were Rob why wouldnt he just show up as Rob? If he disliked the forum as it is he's a mod...so why wouldnt he just moderate? If he didnt like the forum in general why not just stay disappeared?

Actually, I think he was talking about the quote from SavageRob that I put in my original post.  It was from the beginning of the Guidelines thread that we're all supposed to say "yea or nay" to.

Oh, and I don't think I've ever had street vendor hot dogs, but Costco has some dandy ones in their concession stand! :D

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by BurnPgh on 05/27/10 at 00:44:22

Never yet met a dirty dog I didnt like. Actually...in NYC. Too scared to try any when I was there. Plus when its cheaper to get a huge slice of pizza than an old hot dog whats the point?
Anyway...dirty dogs, expired ketchup packets, and a blue slushie is the best lower middle class suburban soul food I can imagine except maybe mac & cheez with ketchup on it.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by John_D FSO on 05/27/10 at 00:57:17

Now you're making me want to go thaw out some dogs and throw 'em on the grill.  I usually go to bed around 8 am, so I've been seen grilling around 3 to 6 am.  Wonder if my neighbors think I'm nuts? :D

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by bill67 on 05/30/10 at 08:46:35

I think our buddy hung him self he is no where around :(

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/30/10 at 08:49:24


6374757F74727A2623202123110 wrote:
Now you're making me want to go thaw out some dogs and throw 'em on the grill.  I usually go to bed around 8 am, so I've been seen grilling around 3 to 6 am.  Wonder if my neighbors think I'm nuts? :D




Why should they? Theyre in bed when you get started & youre in bed when they get up, they dont even know you exist!

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by Serowbot on 05/30/10 at 10:02:57

http://eero.info/misc/Net_Troll.jpg

Trolls and Shills

Trolls and Shills have certain skills
They use with dark intent.
To undermine and obfuscate
With sophistic talent.

Truth they turn upon it’s head
Love they turn to hate
Hate they love and truth despise
Destroy but ne’er create.

They’ll ridicule and call the fool
The man who dares to seek
Truth, justice, honesty
And for these causes speak.

“Truth” they cry and “Facts” demand
But when they are provided
The proof ignored, belittled,
The facts they’ll be derided.

For Trolls and Shills will use their skills
To see that truth remains
Hidden, kept for keepers
In shadowy domains.

There’s little hope for reason
With souls as dark as they.
For Trolls and Shills are truly lost
And lost they’ll surely stay.

Hate them not, but pity them
For what these poor souls lack
Love and truth they’ll never know
While demons ride their back.

Title: Re: Is it just me...
Post by John_D FSO on 05/31/10 at 07:17:13


2B343235282F1E2E1E26343873410 wrote:
[quote author=6374757F74727A2623202123110 link=1274324762/90#104 date=1274947037]Now you're making me want to go thaw out some dogs and throw 'em on the grill.  I usually go to bed around 8 am, so I've been seen grilling around 3 to 6 am.  Wonder if my neighbors think I'm nuts? :D




Why should they? Theyre in bed when you get started & youre in bed when they get up, they dont even know you exist![/quote]
;D  Good point!  I've rented this house for 8 years now, and about half of my neighbors I've only talked to once or twice.

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