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Title: high handle bars Post by Bryan on 05/24/10 at 15:44:21 What's the deal with people putting really high handle bars on their bikes? I'm not complaining or anything; I couldn't really care one way or another, I'm just curious as to why people do it. I saw a guy the other day with his arms stretched out well above his head. I'd be surprised if he could've reached any higher. I can't imagine that'd be comfortable. If anything I'd think his arms would probably fall asleep like that. I think I can understand most of the other common mods people do to their bikes, but that one still stumps me... :-? |
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Title: Re: high handle bars Post by mick on 05/24/10 at 15:52:19 57404F484D4D40595553404A55210 wrote:
guys who ride like that are idiots,it's very dangerous, they think they look cool I guess, as well as being idiots they also look like idiots. Don't worry about it Bryan,they will come a cropper soon enough. |
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Title: Re: high handle bars Post by thumperclone on 05/24/10 at 15:57:09 thinkin anything above shoulder height is illegal |
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Title: Re: high handle bars Post by mick on 05/24/10 at 16:00:17 475B465E435641505F5C5D56330 wrote:
it should be,but I have seen plenty above that,I bet you have too. |
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Title: Re: high handle bars Post by Phelonius on 05/24/10 at 16:47:30 Maybe they are arm wrestlers like in stalones' movie. He had a device in the cab of a semi so that he could exercise while driving as a long haul trucker. Maybe the rider wants to do chin ups while riding. Phelonius |
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Title: Re: high handle bars Post by Serowbot on 05/24/10 at 17:08:52 I think it's a religious thing,... like self flagellation... :-?... |
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Title: Re: high handle bars Post by kimchris1 on 05/25/10 at 00:20:46 I believe in Wa the so called legal height is 36". However yes I have seen many bikes whose bars were higher than that. For what it's worth, my opinion is it would seem to hurt the shoulders and not be good for riding long distances. I guess if one likes them and the height doesn't bother them than so be it. Just not my cup of tea.. |
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Title: Re: high handle bars Post by Starlifter on 05/25/10 at 07:42:17 Torture devices. :o |
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Title: Re: high handle bars Post by earlytimz on 05/25/10 at 07:58:36 Because drag bars are for drag queens!!! :-* As long as they're not above your shoulders they are very comfortable and actually give you a lot of leverage & control. Don't knock it til you try it... You might be surprised! |
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Title: Re: high handle bars Post by mick on 05/25/10 at 12:09:30 707467796C617C786F150 wrote:
I would not had made my comment had I not ridden a bike with ape hangers, A friend had them on his old triumph bobber,looked godawfull,but I just had to try, unsafe at any speed. |
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Title: Re: high handle bars Post by earlytimz on 05/25/10 at 12:50:21 Depending on the bike, it could be unsafe with ANY bars on it... One ride don't make you an expert. Hells bells y'all... Does anything make you happy?? |
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Title: Re: high handle bars Post by kimchris1 on 05/25/10 at 17:59:33 Alot of things make me happy. I didn't realize that voicing or typing my opinion made me seem unhappy. O could it be the reprucusions of the pain pills I have taken lately? ;) |
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Title: Re: high handle bars Post by mick on 05/25/10 at 19:21:37 2327342A3F322F2B3C460 wrote:
Yes,look at the Savage cafe racer in the rubber side down,a beautiful bike for sure,and it makes me happy to look at it. |
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Title: Re: high handle bars Post by earlytimz on 05/25/10 at 19:31:40 Hey if you share, we'll all be a little happier! I wasn't really directing that question towards you, Kim. I hope you didn't take it that way. It was just a light hearted question for the grumpies out there. The OP asked about high bars, I gave my opinion. Some like 'em, some don't... I don't know & don't care if it's legal or not, as long as they're not above my shoulders I like 'em! I've seen bikes with the HUGE apes on them. I agree, it looks uncomfortable & dangerous. Mine are only 10" + risers, mini-apes actually... Very comfy Let's just try to accept & embrace the many flavors of savage. It doesn't have to be a bash-fest to be different |
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Title: Re: high handle bars Post by earlytimz on 05/25/10 at 19:38:20 Well that's great Mick! See, I don't really like the cafe style bikes. To me, you might as well be riding a modern sport bike with that hard seat and front-leaning-rest-position on the bars. I do appreciate the work that goes into them though! I appreciate anyone who has a vision of their bike and puts in the time & effort to see it through. From one extreme to the other, I like to see them end up unique. |
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Title: Re: high handle bars Post by mikelhsr1982 on 05/26/10 at 01:52:40 I have to say, ape hangers look good, and defiantly complete a bobber. As for drag bars, I rekon take em or leave em. When I got my bike the very first thing to go was those fugly buckhorn handlebars. I have drag bars on there for now, until I can find something better. |
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Title: Re: high handle bars Post by mick on 05/26/10 at 02:21:15 0703100E1B160B0F18620 wrote:
that is all well and good Mike,the thing is there must be 100 bobbers to one cafe racer,to me that makes it more unique,I'm sure there would be more if the Savage had a shorter wheelbase. The Savage ,because of it's wheelbase,and frame makes it Ideal for a bobber. so more of them show up.no biggee, beauty is in the eye of the beholder,Cafe racers remind of my youth,I rode nothing but. BTW Mike did you read the comments on that cafe job in rubber side down ? not one negitive comment, so I'm not a loner. |
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Title: Re: high handle bars Post by mikelhsr1982 on 05/26/10 at 03:06:04 Hold up there chief. I had nothing to say about cafe' racers. I was referring to handlebars. No clue why I got thrown in with earlytimz reply. |
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Title: Re: high handle bars Post by babyhog on 05/26/10 at 06:27:49 I think Mick just used the wrong name, Mike.... I like the looks of apes, but not really high ones. I have never ridden with any. I see alot more drag bars these days, on high, even really high, risers. That's weird to me, but to each his own. Earlytimz -- since you like your apes... a guy I work with recently changed his buckhorn style to mini-apes (terms used loosely). He said the counter-steering is different with the taller apes. Can you comment on that? |
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Title: Re: high handle bars Post by kimchris1 on 05/26/10 at 07:36:30 Kim is happy again..hahah.. Earlytimz it is ok. I accept each as they are as well as their bikes. My bike isn't or wasn't bobbed. Maybe if I were able and had the place to work on a bike and bobb it I might take on the challenge. To have the ability to take a bike and give it your own personal modification adds a special meaning to "your bike". I loved my bike and it being new only made me want to keep it looking new. Now that it has been downed and deamed totaled by the ins company I am not sure what will happen next. Again thanks for clearing up your statement and no harm done. I send you hugs and except your opinion however different from mine.. :) Kim |
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Title: Re: high handle bars Post by earlytimz on 05/26/10 at 08:45:25 Mick... Although the cafe bikes aren't as popular, you're never a loner brother! You've always got the rest of us savages here with you!! These bikes do make fine bobbers, exactly the reason I searched for one. Mike.. I agree that apes definitely complete a bob job! Some bikes look really good with drag bars. My brother's night train is one of them. Very long bike, lowered down & more of a mean, hot rod look. Some of the savages on here look good with them too. I made a set for mine, just messing around one day. I may try a set if I get bored later on... I think baby (can't bring myself to call you a hog) touched on something I also have issues with... What's up with the low drag bars on high risers? Looks goofy to me too, but like you said... !a cada uno su propio! As far as the counter-steer goes, I think you actually have better leverage with higher bars. Your body weight isn't pushing down on them at all, so when you lean into one side of the bars you're not fighting against your other hand. So yes, I definitely think counter-steer is affected but not necessarily in a bad way. I have noticed, at least on my savage, that it corners very easily. I chalk it up to a short wheelbase, skinny front tire, low seat & the high bars. I'm honestly impressed with the agility... I'm glad we're cool, Kim. I will gladly accept those hugs as well as your opinions! I'm sorry to hear about your beloved bike being totaled out. I wasn't aware of it & I hope you're ok! Is that the reason for the pain pills? I wish you a speedy recovery if so! A totaled bike and a vision sounds like the perfect recipe for a bobber to me! |
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Title: Re: high handle bars Post by babyhog on 05/27/10 at 08:01:54 7470637D6865787C6B110 wrote:
Thanks for the steering input. Interesting. I might just have to try a little higher set... I know HOG is a term for Harley Owners Group, but to me, a hog was a motorcycle, period. Friends of my husband said my bike looked like a little baby hog the day he bought it, and I couldn't think of an ID when I signed up for this site.... so that's what I went with. If you are thinking of the hog animal, then I appreciate that you don't want to call me a hog! heehee I'm lucky to weigh 115 pounds in full gear, and wet! That's why some call me "Piglet", and that's what I christened my bike - piglet. So feel free to call me piglet. I'm cool with whatever really, as long as its not the dreaded female C-word. No, don't go there! LOL Bryan, sorry for drifting off-topic. |
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Title: Re: high handle bars Post by earlytimz on 05/27/10 at 08:12:07 Piglet it is!! LoL I figured there was a story behind your name, but I can't imagine why you wouldn't want to me to call you "Cutie"??? LoL I was wondering.. What exactly did your co-worker say about his new bars and how they affected his bike? What's he riding? |
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Title: Re: high handle bars Post by babyhog on 05/27/10 at 08:31:31 He rides a Dyna Low Rider, (actually he is riding as we type -- To the Wall in D.C.!) He didn't explain completely, he just said he noticed a big difference. (And he probably didn't add maybe 4 inches in height) He said the normal push to counter-steer was more of a pull now, I think. I'll pick his brain more next week. signed, Cutie... LMAO |
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Title: Re: high handle bars Post by WD on 05/30/10 at 21:56:33 Geez, every board has the same question about apehangers... Most "riders" install them for the look at me ain't I cool on my bagged out Road King garbage barge with 24 inch rise bars (and a wimpshield at least half the time). Same sad sack group of goof balls who decided a station wagon/van hybrid body on a 1 ton 4 wheel drive farm truck frame and running gear made a perfect in town status symbol grocery getter. The same idiots who make lowriders out of 1 ton duallies. Who think you need a 300 horsepower outboard and 500 pounds of glitter to go catch a fish (that they throw back). That said, I ride a lifted 98 Savage with 15" apehangers. My wife rides a lowered 800 Intruder with 10" mini apes and a windshield (with lowers). Why? Comfort and control. I was hurt (bad) on a job site in Feb 2002, to the point I was told I'd never ride again. With the stock pullback bars I wouldn't have, the Savage is a tiny bike when you clear 6"2" and at the time 250+ pounds. A set of 13.5" apes got me back in the wind, then my stepson technically totalled out the Savage. A couple years of reworking the bike, a set of Intruder shocks (my Savage shocks are on Lisa's 800 Intruder), custom fit seat, 15" bars and the Savage is almost comfortable. It handles better than it ever did stock, much more responsive to steering inputs, stops better with more weight on the front end. Are there drawbacks to higher bars? Sure, if I wear a daypack to carry what won't fit in the saddlebags, my metal plated left shoulder slows my entire arm down. If I hadn't drilled and pinned the riser caps to the bars they would change position with every bump. And my fuel economy went from 77mpg in town to around 36mpg, and 85mpg highway to 48mpg. I do have a low bar height bike, the remnants of a 250 Scrambler (1963 CL 72). Before my left shoulder got destroyed in a crash it was getting the full cafe racer treatment. Now, who knows, I can't handle the bar position. I also have a bike with 8 inch rise pullbacks, a very rough 1957 Panhead barhopper, rigid frame, kick only, with stock Knuckle springer. With the 4" Flanders dog bone risers the height is perfect, the width is insufficient. No biggie, bars are cheap ($40 or less, VTwin Mfg). Ride what is comfortable for you. I wouldn't ride clubmans or clip-ons on a dare. Painful and no control. |
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