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Title: obesity Post by mick on 10/09/10 at 16:25:12 Loss of productivity due to obesity costs as much as medical expenditures for the condition,according to a new study that pegs the cost of obesity among full time workers in the US @ 73.1 billion per year. |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by Serowbot on 10/09/10 at 16:55:33 I'm not obese,... but my friends tell me I'm very dense... :-?... |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by gerald.hughes on 10/09/10 at 17:32:34 I may be obese, but I put over 15,000 miles on my Savage in the last 12 months, and I will put another 15,000 on it next year, and the year after, etc. I guess that I am just "fat and happy", |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by verslagen1 on 10/09/10 at 17:39:12 I'm sure I'm short for my weight. and maybe termed 'obese' by those skinny a$$holes... But I rarely miss a days work do you suppose it's due to riding daily? |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by Lupo on 10/09/10 at 18:50:00 Everybody quit worrying. The rising unemployment numbers will bring the national obesity rate down. It's natures way ;D |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by kimchris1 on 10/09/10 at 19:25:51 I can be termed as a full figure gal.. I have never had my size effect my work. I can and have out worked many not only smaller but younger men and women. My productivity record is tops and up until my mc accident my absentee record was tops as well.' I identify with Garfield, I am not overweight, I am undertall... ;D ;D ;D kim |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by Phelonius on 10/09/10 at 19:35:03 Obesity make your bike suffer. Phelonius |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by Skid Mark on 10/09/10 at 19:47:32 Define obese. 5'4 178# is obese according to our medical Association. Personally I think their definition is a bit loose. |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by mick on 10/09/10 at 23:56:03 6A6C75666A313E070 wrote:
that is a tad OW. I am concidered portly at 5' 7" and 140. And I can still see my belt buckle and shoes. |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by mick on 10/09/10 at 23:59:31 7A697E7F606D6B69623D0C0 wrote:
Please tell me why skinny people are a$$ holes ? If you pushed your bike the last half mile you would shed those pounds easy. |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/10/10 at 00:08:27 I am concidered portly at 5' 7" and 140. Nuh uhh Mick. Thats not portly, or heavy, or chunky. Im 5'6" & weigh about 145 & I know what heavy Isnt. Ive also noticed Ive seen lots more old guys built like me than the fatso types/. |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by mick on 10/10/10 at 07:30:33 you are right there,do you remember those pics I posted of my dad ? he was 5'7" 130 # ,so I guess your right :) And lived to 95 |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by Educatedredneck on 10/10/10 at 19:01:23 I'm 6"1" and 265 lbs. If I'm obese, bite me. I can lift more that I weigh, and haven't weighed under 200 lbs since 1983. |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/10/10 at 19:04:47 Ive seen a bunch of BIG men, who could run me down in 10 yards, wad me up in a ball & toss me a long ways. Just bein heavy dont make a guy obese. Its body fat index stuff. A 5'6" guy weighing 150 pounds with pencil legs & toothpick arms & a pot belly is a slob. |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by weracerc on 10/11/10 at 07:13:47 yep i'm a lard ass.....and so? :-? .....graduated high school 300, went to college dropped 100 (got laid for the 1st time ;D), stayed around 200-230 for 5yr (got laid a lot more ;) :D ;D :o), got married hit 290, got divorced dropped back to 200 ("marketing package" needed to be updated if i was going to get laid, again)........stayed 200-230 for 3yr got laid alot more & got married # 2......been married 19yr, 230 to 420 (The Pool Hall is closed, cant shoot pool with a piece of rope :() and diabetic and all those tricks that used to work to drop a 100 in 3 months or less dont work anymore......i show up for work everyday still, sure i cant run a sub 5.0 40yd anymore or get in a 3 point stance or throw the football 60 yards anymore (torn rotator cuffs)....but i bet if I tackled you - you'd remember it for a long time......thank God someone got to Michael Vick before i did, he would not have gotten up if I had a shot at him. >:( .......am I happy being a rope tote'n lard ass? nope. do I have good days? yes.......would i have done things different if i knew then (thin) what i know now (Gi-Freakin-normous!), of course who wouldn't?....but this is where i am in life, on this side of the dirt today so it is a good day, rode the cycle to work makes it a better day.....hopefully i'll still be on this side of the dirt tomorrow and life will go on....if not the sun will rise in the east and life will go on for the rest of the population that is left on this side dirt whether they be fat or thin and somewhere tween......Fat Boy - out :P |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by DangMan on 10/11/10 at 08:45:14 I am overweight without seeming lanky :D |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by mick on 10/11/10 at 09:08:44 Hey guys please don't get upset ,I saw the report and lets be honest because I'm considered normal weight for my hight,I posted it. I just get pissed off when I see these lard assed people going round and round the parking lot at the grocerie store looking to get as close as they can to the front door,rather than walk,and then they get in the store and snag one of those electric riders with the big basket on the front,And there asses hanging over both sides of the seat,not a pretty sight ,then you have lard asses who's only problem is there lardassness they pull into the hanicapped parking get out and waddle into the store and get on the mini golf cart. And that is what I call Obese ,and I bet there arent any that bad on this site. |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by weracerc on 10/11/10 at 10:13:04 yes the ones who make no effort to change and only keep getting bigger make me mad too.....sure some might have legit medical issues that keep them from loosing (thyroid problems for one, middle age spread for another) but doing nothing about the problem and expecting society to make exceptions for them is just wrong.....The first thing i asked wifey when i got the cycle was do I look stupid on it - meaning I am I too big for the bike - she is brutally honest and she said no...when she could have said yes and i would have sold it the next day - which would have made her happy - |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/11/10 at 19:23:44 People EAT when theyre hungry. People are hungry when they need nutrition. Unless people eat good, healthy food, they stay a bit hungry, because something is lacking in the diet. Couple that with the MSG & high fructose corn syrup ( walk down the aisle & read the contents in items for sale) in about everything in the stores, the understand that not everybody HAS a body that will metabolize that crap. Natural Spices???? Thats MSG |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by mick on 10/11/10 at 23:52:47 Justin,it get's harder and harder to find food that does not have additives,I guess fruit is ok, the bread I buy will go stale if I don't eat it on the first day I bring it home,One French baggette,very crusty.I often make my own in the winter,flour,water,salt,yeast, it warms the house up.I don't like veggies so I never eat them.farm raised fish,and rabbit once in a while. And porrage for breakfast. |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/12/10 at 04:07:00 Youve got enough room to have a chicken tractor. Im sure youre not squeamish. Rasie your own chickens & have eggs, too. I hear Muscovy is a good meal.. |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by weracerc on 10/12/10 at 05:58:53 my wife read somewhere that when Europeans come to the US they gain 10-20 lbs and when Americans go to Europe the loose 10-20 lbs - because of the food supply - we have nothing but junk that puts weight on you and over there they eat a much more healthy diet. |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/12/10 at 06:30:08 & when another country starts to adopt the "western diet" ( Think, Burger King, Pizza Hut, etc) their life span starts to drop. |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by bill67 on 10/12/10 at 06:32:24 The life span has increased over the last 50 years. |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by bill67 on 10/12/10 at 06:38:04 I love KFC.Arbys roast beef,and Long John Silvers. |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/12/10 at 06:53:17 656E6B6B3130070 wrote:
wrong,,, its started to decline. & the Western DIET has caused those long living folks in other [places to die off soner. Stop just running your mouth on what youve been told. I THOT the same thing too, since thats all we hear about how wonderful OUR country is, then a doctor wised me up to the facts. |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by weracerc on 10/12/10 at 07:35:01 i take drugs that cancel cheeseburgers........My Dr. is always amazed my A1C is always between 5.0 & 6.0 and my cholesterol is 130 or less......Glipizide, Actos, Allopurinol, Losartin.......i refused to take cholesterol meds - they put my total cholesterol at 70 and i felt like crap.....I told my Dr "the way i see it, i have two choices - walk 2 miles or eat 2 double cheeseburgers - i know which two i am going to choose everytime!" I eat lots of fruit, vegs, chicken, pork & steak occassionally, eggs, bacon, 10 carb per slice whole grain/wheat bread in moderation, green tea and water - no coffee, or sodas or sweet tea, limited potatoes, sugar, rice (anything white is bad for you, carb wise) if it comes in a bag it is probably bad for you (chips, cookies etc)....... so even though I cant walk the 2 miles or more anymore (knees & ankles totally f'd up from football)...and i eat relatively healthy the weight does not fall off like it did in my 20's and 30's...now at 50 metabolism just aint what it used to be. |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/12/10 at 07:36:40 bicycles are easy on old joints, swimming even more so |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by weracerc on 10/12/10 at 08:03:58 i have a recumbant exercise bike - need to use it more regularly....walking laps in the pool is good, and hard but very worth-while......cant afford YMCA membership right now though. |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 10/12/10 at 08:26:31 I'm a bit pudgey too - 5' 11" and 190. One thing I notice in my travels, and I do travel quite a bit in my work - people who live in big cities liike Chicago or NYC, and who have the kinds of jobs where they have to go to other places or offices during the work day aren't nearly as fat as people are around around here. Becasue they walk - I deal with lawyers in Chicago and NY a lot. When we go to court, or to another office for a deposition, it's always a few blocks away, and we walk unless the weather is rainy. Same for lunch. Here in my suburban office in Columbus, I get in the car and drive a couple of miles. In the big cities, we walk a few blocks to an eatery. One piece of conventional wisdom is that if you walk 10,000 steps per day, you may be a little over weight, but you won't be morbidly obese. Figuring a 2.5 foot stride for most men walking at a normal pace, 10,000 steps would be 25,000 feet, or 4.73 miles. Normal walking speed is about 3 mph. That's not hustling, but it's not slogging along either. So, 4.73 miles would take about 1.5 hours, or 90 minutes, in a day to accomplish. Quite a bit, but not as much as you think, as every step that you take during the day counts. As Mick said, the fat ones hunt the parking spots closest to the door - when I go to the grocery, I park at the far side of the lot and walk about 300 feet to get to the door. Same for going to the bank, or everywhere else. I take two walks per day - mid morning and mid afternoon, each about 20 miles long. That's 40 minutes of the 90 minutes that I need to walk. Try walking more - it works. |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by bill67 on 10/12/10 at 08:33:48 Thats pretty fast walking 60mph. |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 10/12/10 at 08:48:17 OK, Bill - You got me on that one <g>. Meant to say each walk is about 20 minutes long. |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by buttgoat1 on 10/12/10 at 09:35:37 IMO, Too many people head to the fries, rice, potatoes, and breads first. That and serving size, a kids meal has enough calories for an average person, gimme the bigger burger and no fries please, or the KFC double down, 2 chicken breasts with bacon and cheese between, maybe next time I will take in my own burger to put in there. mmmmmmmmmmm Seriously, I try to hit fruit and veggies first, lean meats, carbs last. my fittest was 175# at 5'8" tall. I had the cardio of a runner when I had a treadmill test. I got about 25 more pounds now. |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by mick on 10/12/10 at 09:43:29 26296C7E697E787A717C2E1F0 wrote:
spuds and rice are not bad for you ,It's what you put on em that counts. |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by bill67 on 10/12/10 at 16:48:22 4F5056514C4B7A4A7A42505C17250 wrote:
wrong,,, its started to decline. & the Western DIET has caused those long living folks in other [places to die off soner. Stop just running your mouth on what youve been told. I THOT the same thing too, since thats all we hear about how wonderful OUR country is, then a doctor wised me up to the facts. [/quote] JOG you believe what one doctor told you.Americans life span is as good as most other countries,When I was in school 62 Years for a man and man now its 75. I would say medicine has the most to do with it,like heart pills and high blood pressure. |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by Tanker2Biker on 10/12/10 at 17:39:13 06094C5E495E585A515C0E3F0 wrote:
I hear you friend. I have fought my weight all my life. I weigh less than my Savage, but not a whole lot less. And that's after dropping 80 pounds over the last 2 years.(Started when the last thing my Son said to wife & I when we dropped him off for college was "I want you and Mom to work on that, because I want you around to see me graduate". Kids!!)And yet I still go to work every day, and still complete all tasks assigned, and take some of the load for my co-workers who can't finish their work. Would I like to be smaller, He11 yes, but I still enjoy every day above ground |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by bill67 on 10/12/10 at 18:17:25 2 women just died in my county this week one 101 the other 106 |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by Serowbot on 10/12/10 at 19:11:13 3F3431316B6A5D0 wrote:
You're in Wisconsin... You spend 8 months a year frozen in suspended animation... ;D... |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by verslagen1 on 10/12/10 at 21:12:53 4D46434319182F0 wrote:
gee, they sure were skinny. |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by mick on 10/12/10 at 23:55:27 160512130C0107050E51600 wrote:
gee, they sure were skinny.[/quote] must have been Olive Oyle and her Sister Castrol |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by Southpaw on 10/13/10 at 10:09:15 Been off the site for awhile so pardon a late two cents... Bear with me, and I'll try to get to my point as quick as possible! I've watched a lot of co-worker who used to work construction and like me, changed careers for their health, gain a lot of weight in the first few years. To me, you have to change your eating habits in relation to the calories you burn. I'm a 6'1'' former "Salamander" (Commercial Steam Pipe Insulator) who used to run up and down ladders, work the sides of chemical tanks on pole scaffolds, or crawl around under floors in four foot square tunnels repairing insulation after pipe fitters did their repairs. Needless to say this job burned a lot of calories and I stayed somewhere around 170-180lbs. Heck, anything more, I probably wouldn't have fit in some of those tunnels. I quit in 2001 after my second knee surgery and a bout of what was later diagnosed as chronic asthma. I don't exactly "pig out" when I eat, but I never changed my eating habits when I quit construction and IMMEDIATELY gained 20-30 pounds to around the 200lb mark. I probably walk 2-3 miles every day at the store if those pedometers are any kind of accurate but my metabolism dropped from not having to pull my weight up and down ladders and not having to deal with the outside elements or sweating off pounds when working in a hot boiler room for 8 hours at a time. Last year I got this diverticulosis thing in my guts and it slowed me down even more for 6 months and I went up to 220 lbs. :P Now being 6'1" and 220lbs doesn't SOUND huge, but that's a 30% increase over what I'd been most of my life and those extra 50 pounds were proving he// on my knees! That's when I finally realized I was headed for trouble. I had to change my diet anyway for the stomach problems and I started back to the gym trying to get into shape to be a bone marrow donor for my brother. (they say its almost as hard on the donor as it is on the patient for a couple of days. Don't know it thats true, but I wasn't taking any chances!) I'm back down in the 190s and the knees feel better again! My point is, when life forces change on you, your appetite doesn't immediately recalibrate, and you don't always notice the change until you're WAY off your mark. I thought those first 20-30 pounds were just "turning 40" finally catching up to me. I was still very "active" but walking isn't the same as climbing a ladder and working in a nice air conditioned building isn't the same as being on a rooftop in the summer or freezing your but off outside in the winter. Our bodies are very efficient machines and they turn off systems to conserve resources when they aren't used. A combination of convenient excuses and a lack of understanding of this can put you down in a hurry. My 300 pound laborer friend who was so strong he moved credenza file cabinets LOADED, by himself, died 3 years later after a back injury retired him. He was well over 400 lbs when he died. One of my old shop stewards from a prior job was an all district linebacker in school is one of those "Walmart Express" riders you're talking about. Asking him how it happened he still doesn't really have a clue! My wife and my brother are both fighting health issues but at least see the warning signals and are trying to change things now! Awareness and good sound advise at the start are the keys. If you wait until you KNOW you have a problem, you've got a longer fight ahead of you!...just my two cents... |
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Title: Re: obesity Post by babyhog on 10/13/10 at 10:36:08 I totally agree with you Southpaw. I have always been tiny, never more than 115-120# (except pregnancy). I'm maybe 110# now. High metabolism naturally, I guess. Eat anything I want, as much as I want. Always had "desk" jobs, but still always about the same activity level, I walk a lot, and I walk fast. Not purposeful, just to walk for exercise. I've just always had to walk from room to room, building to building, floor to floor, wherever I have worked. Anyway, my hubby has changed jobs a few times and when he quit walking and "laboring", he has picked up probably 25 pounds. He drives around more now, on the phone, more paperwork... not nearly as active as he used to be. And it shows. We are building a cabin, he started last week. Since he has been working on it, he has noticed the difference in his stamina. Its not all about getting old. I'm 7+ years older than him. Its because his activity level changed and mine hasn't much. Well, he eats ALOT too. Anyway, just wanted to reinforce what you said. |
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