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Message started by mmg123 on 10/22/10 at 22:15:01

Title: Clutch
Post by mmg123 on 10/22/10 at 22:15:01

I am haveing problems with my clutch.

How do you adjust it correctly and what oil should be in the engine.

Only had the bike 2 mths it had been stood 4yrs just got it running put car engine oil in it with it being a 4 stroke fitted new clutch cable .

Tried adjusting clutch cable up and down but the gears seem to clunk in and out of gears when changeing them whilst rideing the bike . ???

Any ideas please Very frustrating i am trying to learn about this lovely bike .

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Title: Re: Clutch
Post by verslagen1 on 10/22/10 at 22:41:05

10W40 OIL
Stay away from energy saving oil
rotella is good

Title: Re: Clutch
Post by verslagen1 on 10/22/10 at 22:42:06

what do you mean it goes clunk?

Title: Re: Clutch
Post by mmg123 on 10/22/10 at 22:49:20

Like hard to shift into gears its not smooth. Its shifting into gears but not smooth more like your forceing into gears . And thank you from above 10 40s oil any api rateing ? or just any 10 40s will do.

Title: Re: Clutch
Post by verslagen1 on 10/22/10 at 23:01:31

there's quite few that'll work.
search oil
diesel grade oil has the best additive package.

How do you have the clutch lever adjusted?
should have about an 1/8" gap when you take the slop out of the cable.
are you shifting at low rpms or high?

Title: Re: Clutch
Post by mmg123 on 10/22/10 at 23:34:00

Thanks on oil grade will have a shop around for the best one its got mutigrade 51w 50 in at the moment.

Has for high rpm and low whilst changeing gear its all the time. But its much easy whilst doing 30 to 40k onwards higher revs and speed its better but if your slowing down its like jerky . Jerky lower speeds. Especially if your crawling in 1st gear.

Title: Re: Clutch
Post by bill67 on 10/23/10 at 07:38:26

797973252627140 wrote:

Use a good synthetic motorcycle oil,Like Klotz,Engine will run cooler, You will use less oil,And trans will shift easier.No clutch problems if you use motorcycle oil.

Title: Re: Clutch
Post by verslagen1 on 10/23/10 at 09:31:00

7C7C76202322110 wrote:

Thanks on oil grade will have a shop around for the best one its got mutigrade 51w 50 in at the moment.

Do a search for oil, diesel oil, car oil and you'll see what been used before and what to watch out for. Wally sells rotella in the 15w40 and the T6 in the blue jug at the best price. And the T6 has the correct rating for the bike.

7C7C76202322110 wrote:

as for high rpm and low whilst changing gear, its all the time. But its much easier while doing 30 to 40 onwards. higher revs and speed its better but if your slowing down its like jerky. Jerky at lower speeds. Especially if your crawling in 1st gear.

You must be a new rider, practice, practice, practice. 1st gear will always be a bit jerky, the key is to pull in the clutch and let it roll. When you need to speed up, rev up to about 2k rpm and slip the clutch.

Title: Re: Clutch
Post by mmg123 on 10/24/10 at 09:07:02

No i am not a new rider been rideing bikes for 26 years Then i came across this suzuki savage what had been imported from the uk where i used to live then imported here by a english guy here I now live in cyprus someone mess with it and left it for dead it was stood for 4yrs i have rescued it and registered it here/

Trying to bring her back to life . I did what you said reset clutch cable 3mm gap at lever much better 100 percent better. I will be getting some oil in the morning do the oil change and let you know the outcome.

thank you so far for your help . Kind Regards mmg123 8-)

Title: Re: Clutch
Post by jrm8486 on 10/24/10 at 09:19:42

Is that rottella t-6 oil synthetic ?

Title: Re: Clutch
Post by verslagen1 on 10/24/10 at 09:24:09

There are a few others from your fine island...

202A33717373752A30430 wrote:

Hello again from Cyprus! I was trying to post some pics but i couldn't. I will post a link for my hi5 page.
http://www.hi5.com/friend/photos/displayManageAlbum.do?albumId=298069168&ownerId=78591962
About my english .... the spellchek is really working on this forum ... just need to pay some attention to the red underlines ...
I have the pics of the bike as i bought it. I think everything is stock. it rides really good, i bought it for 850 euros, it has 17000 km, an it is worthy! The weather here is great, and i am very happy with the bike!
Good luck to all the savagers!

1B21282A2D2B1B2A2D312B3D2A580 wrote:

Hello there fellow owners.

Great forum you all have here and very informative.

My names Rod im from Scotland but stay in Cyprus. I just bought a 92 Savage(but im guessing its probably older model) but only got it the day before i had to come back to Africa for work and im going to have to wait 5 weeks before i can enjoy it again :o

Theres a few things that need tidying up so looking forward to getting my hands dirty doing that.
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/732/004bd6.jpg

Title: Re: Clutch
Post by verslagen1 on 12/20/10 at 22:43:53

1st question...

Is your arm between the 2 marks on the case shown here below the arm?

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/Short_rod1.JPG

Title: Re: Clutch
Post by mmg123 on 12/21/10 at 22:04:49

Check the lever its in between the marks i would say slightly higher than the bottom one

Title: Re: Clutch
Post by verslagen1 on 12/21/10 at 22:10:01

Pull up on the lever and take the freeplay out. still between the marks?

Title: Re: Clutch
Post by mmg123 on 12/21/10 at 22:21:30

Yes i did that and a 1/8 gap at the handle bar lever I also changed the oil like you said PJ1 silverline 10-40s Ten euro a lt filled to correct level in the small rould looking glass Its a bit better but still got the jerk whilst slowing down and building speed only seems alright at a steedy 45 50 k but you get increasing speed and down speed.

Title: Re: Clutch
Post by verslagen1 on 12/21/10 at 23:34:15

I think you clutch rod is ok, bordering on the long side.
What will happen if it becomes too long is slip.
If you ever have trouble with the rpm's racing and the bike is sluggish, then I'd replace the rod for a shorter one.

Title: Re: Clutch
Post by Oldfeller on 12/25/10 at 12:03:24

If he has free play at the lever then he is good to go for a right good long while with his rod length where it is according to his case markings. He is at the "good end of things" for rod wear or cable stretch, which generally strongly outweigh plate wear effects anyway.

Keep on using DIESEL OILS, you may have residual friction star materials on your clutch plates that the diesel oil may help clear up for you.

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This user isn't able to communicate clearly enough to figure any thing else to try to tell him. So, just run it the way it is until it gets better or gets worse. One or the other is gonna happen eventually.