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Title: Time Traveler... Post by Serowbot on 10/30/10 at 10:02:52 What do you think?... :-?... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6a4T2tJaSU[/media] |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by jef.savage on 10/30/10 at 10:43:04 Even if you had a mobile phone back then what good would it be without a network of towers, satellites, etc? |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by Phelonius on 10/30/10 at 11:08:25 She is the person who originated the phrase, "Can you hear me now?" Phelonius ;) |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by Lupo on 10/30/10 at 11:08:29 5D525119445458415E5B5B52370 wrote:
About the same as AT&T is now :) |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by Phelonius on 10/30/10 at 11:35:39 232C2F673A2A263F2025252C490 wrote:
Capt. Kirk didn't need no stinking towers when he showed up in the 1920s. Phelonius ::) |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by mpescatori on 10/31/10 at 03:15:48 History is full of "out of their time" characters, from Leonardo to Raimondo di Sangro (wiki him!) to Jules Verne to H.G.Wells. I am confident one day Man will master time travel. To the skeptics: in the late 19th Century, it was scientifically proven (???) that trains and automobiles could not speed beyond 20mph (36 Km/h = 10 meters / second) because the wind would have caused death to the crew and passengers through asphyxia. ::) Uh, yea, sure... ;) So, they said, a plane cannot fly faster than sound. ::) Uh, yea, sure... ;) And, you can't go in outer space because the vacuum would suck you into shrivels. ::) Uh, yea, sure... ;) Any more for any more ? [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X02WMNoHSm8[/media] 8-) See you yesterday !!! |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/31/10 at 05:27:07 Aww, Now, I dunno,,, I dunno if I WANT to go running down that road. Ive been known to get lost on roads I can see, where I can find someone & ask for directions. Sounds like a pretty scary idea, be out there, zipping along thru time, & wind up somewhere & no one could help That "Lost TRaveller". |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by mick on 10/31/10 at 06:53:54 I would love to time travel back to 01 BC then hang around the "Holy Land" see who show's up,and I bet it wont be the late great JC. But even I could proove without doubt that he never excisted as the son of God,their would be people (on this site) who would not believe it. |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/31/10 at 07:53:39 43474D455A464B4247434B572E0 wrote:
Im starting to wonder just who you are trying to convince. You seem so focused on something you are just sure doesnt exist..you trying to convince yourself? You sure arent having any luck with me, because I KNOW better. |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by LostArtist on 10/31/10 at 21:56:09 heard about this on the radio and a couple of guys called in saying it was http://www.hearingaidmuseum.com/gallery/Carbon/WesternElectric/info/westelect34a.htm which makes enough sense to me |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by mick on 10/31/10 at 22:58:40 0D2E3235003335283235410 wrote:
Are you making a statement ? Or trying to sell antique hearing aids ? Or is this a trick because I didn't give you candy ? |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 11/01/10 at 06:02:22 The only interests I would have in time travel would have are two fold: 1. To be present at some of the really important dates in history, like hearing the Gettysburg Address in person, or some of the debates in the Continental Congress over the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution - that sort of thing; and 2. To relive some of the really important days in my lifetime. Maybe a fun day like the Friday night that my high school football team won our league championship, or with my Dad at a baseball game when I pitched really well and seeing the smile on his face again. I'd like to relive my wedding day, and see the look on my wife's face as we exchanged vows - I can remember it, but I'd really like to see it again. Maybe my first solo flight. The night my daughter was born. Then there are a few days that I'd change what I did that day, as I'm sure we all would. Just a day here and there, nothing permanent. But I would have no desire to actually live my life in a different time - I like this time - no time in history is perfect, but right now suits me fairly well. I would have no desire to live before modern medicine, and a few modern conveniences like air conditioning, modern automobile and airline travel. Even modern eyeglasses - at my age now, I'd be a visual cripple if I had to live 400 years ago. |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by Arnold on 11/01/10 at 12:31:16 That? That's just Biff trying to get the Sports Almanac again... |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by mpescatori on 11/01/10 at 13:00:20 Imagine having the possibility to "invest" a few thousand dollars (I really mean "a few", 2000, 3000, max 5000) and go back to... the '50s and enjoy a looong holiday on that kind of money ! Imagine living a "quasi-real life" adventure, go back to when Apollo 11 took off and filming everything on a digital camcorder, snapping pictures on a digital camera, sporting an LCD watch on your wrist etc... Maybe even driving a Prowler or a Viper, equipped with GPS and a few other items of technological "Wizardry"... ...maybe even enjoy a high-speed chase with the local Sheriff egged by "Men in Black" etc. in "Smokey and the Bandit" style... Yeah, I know, I'm just daydreaming, but it could be an idea for the basic plot of a TV serial. 8-) |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by Arnold on 11/01/10 at 14:02:55 Like Bruce Campbell in Evil Dead. |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by youzguyz on 11/01/10 at 14:11:58 Army of Darkness was my favorite. "Alright you Primitive Screwheads, listen up! You see this? This... is my boomstick! The twelve-gauge double-barreled Remington. S-Mart's top of the line. You can find this in the sporting goods department. That's right, this sweet baby was made in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Retails for about a hundred and nine, ninety five. It's got a walnut stock, cobalt blue steel, and a hair trigger. That's right. Shop smart. Shop S-Mart. You got that? " |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by bill67 on 11/01/10 at 14:13:21 I would like to go back and watch Sarah Palin when she played baskeball. ;D |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by mpescatori on 11/02/10 at 01:08:23 53465D5E5E57465740320 wrote:
Sorry, never seen the show. Please consider that, other than the occasional one week business trip, I haven't been living in the US as a "resident" since 1973 - that's a looong time ago. In those days, dinosaurs roamed the earth, and scorched traffic lights : vicious man-eaters such as the Cobra, the Barracuda, the Cougar, Wildcat, the Firebird and the irresistible Chargers and GTOs... ...even apparently tame animals posed a threat to that emerging weakling, MAN... You could risk your life just wanting to stroke an Impala or a Mustang, or wanting to feed the Super Bees and the Road Runners... Why, I heard of a little boy being literally hipnotized by a fire-breating Pinto (it seems some ordinary Pinto fillies mated with Mustangs and bred this hybrid animal that lived in caves and would only come out at night...) ;) |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by Arnold on 11/02/10 at 05:06:03 Haha, Shop S-Mart, havent heard that in a while, Klaatu Barada Nikto to you... |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by mick on 11/02/10 at 22:48:59 5D56535309083F0 wrote:
I know you Bill ,you want to hang out in the girls showers,after the ball game. |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by PerrydaSavage on 11/03/10 at 00:58:25 I've been a life-long fan of Science Fiction ... Time Travel stories have always been a fave of mine. If I could travel in time?? Well, I really wanna go back and find out just what the hell went wrong with my marriage of 22 years ... I thought my wife and I had a good relationship, but last Feb. she literally got up one morning, declared that she didn't want to be married anymore and left without so much as an explanation why and still refuses to discuss it? Been a rough Ride for me ever since ... I'm a skeptic when it comes to UFO's, but the Roswell story has been amazingly persistant over the years ... I wouldn't mind havin' a peek at that to see what the actual history of that incident was all about. Oh yeah ... had to have my beloved 13 yr old dog put down yesterday afternoon ... I'd like to back and give her one more hug before the doc placed the needle in her leg ... :( Quote:
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by mpescatori on 11/03/10 at 01:39:33 I feel for you, Perry :-[ I've been close to seeing the end of my family as well, not through any fault of mine but simply because after 5 consecutive years of unaccompanied service my wife had had enough of being a full time Mom and a weekend Wife. Sorry for the dog, too, had one myself as a teenager, 20 years after he died I still expect to hear him huff and puff at the door when I go see my parents... :-/ Roswell ? Can't, won't comment. Is there life out there ? An Italian Physicist, Nobel Prize winner Carlo Rubbia summed it up in his "goldfish bowl" theory: There's a goldfish in a bowl, and to it that's the universe. It can swim all over, and explore, forget and find again, but that's as far as it can go. It doesnn't matter how many fish there are in that bowl, and how big or small the bowl itself may be, THAT is the universe. Now, if somebody could only tell him there's another bowl a few feet away... and another near the window, and a few more in the next room... not to mention the neighbors... ...who's gonna tell him about the entire neighborhood ? Man, there are so many fish bowls, you could lose count !!! But the goldfish can only go as far as its own bowl, until it learns to jump and look around. Unfortunately, space travel as we know it with our current technology will only allow us to go and walk on the Moon, even Mars requires a veritable Magellanic Voyage... ::) |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by mick on 11/03/10 at 08:41:44 Perry,I'm so sorry about your dog,13 years is a long time to love something for him to die on you,our buddy Serowbot was saying the other day that he would never have another dog because he cant stand losing it. The wife,no biggy go get another one You just have to get another dog. |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by serenity3743 on 11/03/10 at 13:45:46 7B5844437645435E4443370 wrote:
The problem with the hearing aid theory is that the hearing aid has an earpiece which fits inside the ear, attached by the wire at the main unit which is like a microphone. Ordinarily, the user would not hold the main unit; it would be clipped on at the chest area. |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 11/03/10 at 14:00:16 Col. Pescatori - You are so right about space travel. The distances are so great, I have no idea how we'll ever go beyond our own solar system at best. Even if we do invent a propulsion system that can power a spacecraft far faster than we can with with only reaction rocket power, we then bump up against Einstein's theory. Assuming the old boy to be right, you cannot go even as fast as the speed of light, so you can't go to a place a thousand light years away, let alone go the real distances in space that are needed to get into other solar systems and galaxies. We don't live long enough to make the trip. Now if we can figure out how to transistion from matter to energy, and back again, maybe Capt. Kirk's warp drive might be feasible. |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by mick on 11/03/10 at 14:57:58 Jerry can you emagen trying to stear that ship going at light speed. It will never happen, the only way would be to go with males and females and keep having babies and train them en-route,when you get were you are going your ship will be a few hundred years old and in dire need of an overhaul, So you will have to land near a rocket ship jiffy lube. I think this requires a little more thought. :-/ |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by verslagen1 on 11/03/10 at 15:15:36 Given the current level of improvement, each new generation would be met by the ones that stayed on earth and built a new space ship. |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 11/03/10 at 15:28:12 Mick - If mankind could figure out how to transition from matter to energy and back, then most of the issue is solved, again given the propulsion system that could drive a craft that fast. Once you're nothing but energy, navigation is simple - just figure out beforehand the direction you need to go and go for it. But don't run into anything. And neither ship nor crew would age going at lightspeed. Time stands still then. Physicists have already calculated that at the speeds that spacecraft currently travel, a six month stay in orbit aboard the space station results in the crew saving a few seconds of their life. As speed increases, time slows down. I flunked the only college math course I ever took, so this is way beyond my comprehension. Interesting stuff, but as you said, way beyond our lifetimes. |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by bill67 on 11/03/10 at 15:29:18 Alley Op had a time machine that worked. ;) |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/03/10 at 16:34:10 454E4B4B1110270 wrote:
Well, yes he did. I once downloaded the owners manual for it. All lube points were spec'ed for Klotz oil. It must surely be sitting somewhere, ( or somewhen) in a state of perfect repair. |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by Arnold on 11/03/10 at 17:03:34 Einstein was not always right though, great physicist but not as good a mathematician. According to his theory, as an object approaches the speed of light its mass becomes infinite, as such, he never properly understood how light itself does it. |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by mpescatori on 11/04/10 at 09:39:16 65706B686861706176040 wrote:
Actually, he was a mathematician. His wife was a physicist, and many think Einstein actually stole his wife's idea. Now, back to business. Jerry, scientists insist nothing can ... never mind pass, but even reach the speed of light... because they are thinking (IMHO) with the wrong physics in mind. Let me get this right, before you all fall off your chairs laughing. I am NOT saying "Me smart, you Cheetah", but... - the ancient geocentric theory was proven WRONG by Galileo; - Kepler's Heliocentric theory was proven WRONG by 19th century astronomers; - it was thought outer space was a vacuum of nothingness WRONG - it was thought light was made of particles WRONG - a steam engine can't ride any faster than 10meters/sec = 20mph WRONG - a plane can't fly faster than sound WRONG - I'll never win the lottery WRONG (whoops, I said it !!! ) Science is that one aspect of man's intellectual activity where whatever is considered th elimit today, will lead to startling discoveries tomorrow... So, just because you can't sail west of the Pillars of Hercules doesn't mean a daring sould couldn't try... ...who knows, he just might return... yesterday ??? ;) |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by Serowbot on 11/04/10 at 09:49:46 I can't get over that there are 10 dimensions... Can you imagine trying to hang a door in there?... :-?... |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by WebsterMark on 11/04/10 at 10:28:24 mpesc.... And Darwin was proven wrong by...... And Global Warming was proven wrong by... ha ha,just kidding. but back on time traveling, isn't the simplist argument against time travel the fact that no one's come back to our time and told us? In the future, wouldn't you come back and stop Hitler if you could? |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 11/04/10 at 10:39:31 WM - I'm hardly qualified to even discuss this subject from a theoretical point of view. But, assuming you could get to the speed of light, or nearing the speed of light, time stands still. So, you could accelerate, enjoy watching time go on for those not with you while you zip around the universe, then return to near Earth, decelerate and pop in on a future world. According to Einstein's theories, that's potentially possible. But how could one go back in time? I know of no present theories to explain that possibility. |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by Arnold on 11/04/10 at 10:47:15 I always made more sense to me that forward only would be the way to go. But as WebsterMark said, why has no one from the past come forward to our present time and told us? |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by Serowbot on 11/04/10 at 10:50:15 340601101706112E021108630 wrote:
One of the theories is, the multi- verse theory.... In that theory, if a time traveler made such a historical change, it would create a parallel universe in which Hitler was murdered, and WWII never happened... ... and Bill67 ends up president... ... and Palin is VP, of course... ... and there are no shrimp... :-?... |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by verslagen1 on 11/04/10 at 11:19:19 6772696A6A63726374060 wrote:
There would be no advantage to going forward in time unless it was to travel to some far distant star and return in your own lifetime. |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by verslagen1 on 11/04/10 at 11:23:42 053730212637201F332039520 wrote:
Why wouldn't you go back and stop the assassination that started WWI? Or... or... or... And at what point would you cease to exist? Changing History is a dangerous thing. |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by WebsterMark on 11/04/10 at 11:30:29 Jerry; I believe that’s call time dilation and is very real. Not sure of all the details, but I’m told the effect had to be taken into account when designing color televisions. Don’t know why, but I imagine it has to do with the fact that mass increases as speed increases and time slows down. Which would seem to mean if you could speed up in a ship to near light speed, I’m not sure you would be able to observe anything else not traveling at the same relative speed. You could slow down and return to the point where you left, but that point would have aged more than you. |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by WebsterMark on 11/04/10 at 11:32:25 verslagen1 that's my point. it seems someone would have done it already. |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 11/04/10 at 11:36:12 I'd much rather go forward. I have no desire to go back. Just think about the endless possibilities of what life MIGHT be like in the future - could be bad, but as the eternal optomist, I'll assume it would be much better. For sure, more medical advances and other neat stuff we can only dream about. What would Abe Lincoln have thought if he could have gone forward and traveled to distant lands in Air Force One, for instance. I don't think he ever even traveled outside the U.S. to Canada or Mexico, did he? Did he even go west of the Mississippi in his lifetime? Go back further in time and bring Julius Caesar into the 21st century - can you imagine the gaze in his eyes as he would see our world? For the most part, we now about the past - it's the future that mystifies us. |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by Serowbot on 11/04/10 at 12:07:05 Forward time travel is easy,... ...we're all doing it right now... :-?... (I think Bill was supposed to say that,... but he's probably busy contemplating his presidency).... |
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Title: Re: Time Traveler... Post by Arnold on 11/04/10 at 12:15:33 We cant go in the past for the simple facts that the Langoliers ate it all. |
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