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Message started by mick on 11/27/10 at 18:22:57

Title: huge stink coming
Post by mick on 11/27/10 at 18:22:57

Any of you news hounds been reading about this Wikileaks website ?
Seems some Swedish dude has got a hold of a sh1t load of diplomatic messages from presidents,prime ministers, and other leaders to diplomats and each other. Can you emagen the fall out from this stuff ,I have no idea how far this goes back , just think of what Bush said to Blair and vica virca about terrorists,to the public they are politically correct calling the muslims all nice guys with a few bad apples , I going to love to hear what they really said, BO sent a message of warning today to any leader that might have said things that were not kosher, isn't this fun ?

Title: Re: huge stink coming
Post by sluggo on 11/27/10 at 19:18:01

wikileaks was dpwn when i checked yesterday

Title: Re: huge stink coming
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/27/10 at 19:42:32

I wonder whats gonna happen when the deniers come face to face with the stuff Ive been saying...

Title: Re: huge stink coming
Post by Paladin. on 11/27/10 at 19:44:54

Interesting.  The host is the site down at the IP -- Http://88.80.13.160
GoDaddy, the registar, seems to have changed the DNS, at NS51.DOMAINCONTROL.COM, and have parked WikiLeaks.com on themselves.

Godaddy is the registar for *my* sites.  I may have to change them.  I don't like the idea of *them* stealing my sites.


Title: Re: huge stink coming
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/27/10 at 19:52:17


51606D6065686F010 wrote:
Interesting.  The host is the site down at the IP -- Http://88.80.13.160
GoDaddy, the registar, seems to have changed the DNS, at NS51.DOMAINCONTROL.COM, and have parked WikiLeaks.com on themselves.

Godaddy is the registar for *my* sites.  I may have to change them.  I don't like the idea of *them* stealing my sites.



I don't like the idea of *them* stealing my sites.


The least confusing bit of info presented.

I dont unnerstand a BIT of your post Paladin,

That said, what I DO understand is that you know one Hekk of a lot more about puters than I do.

Title: Re: huge stink coming
Post by Paladin. on 11/27/10 at 22:45:19

I don't know what will be tomorrow, but as of right now http://wikileaks.com/ is listed as a parked site at godaddy.com.

The actual site, wikileaks.com, is still at it's I.P address:  http://88.80.13.160/  Or not.

THAT site is shown as being "underoing scheduled maintenance. "

There is also a site, http://wikileaks.org/ and IS up.

The Registar for wikileaks.org is Dynadot.

Smells worse than English cooking.

I've  been drinking...

Title: Re: huge stink coming
Post by Edgar on 11/27/10 at 23:31:19


0D3C313C3934335D0 wrote:
Smells worse than English cooking.


Hey I Happen to like fish n chips and Shepards pie...

Title: Re: huge stink coming
Post by Phelonius on 11/28/10 at 09:37:52


7D5C5F594A380 wrote:
[quote author=0D3C313C3934335D0 link=1290910978/0#5 date=1290926719]


Smells worse than English cooking.


Hey I Happen to like fish n chips and Shepards pie...[/quote]


I never could get into kidney pie.

Title: Re: huge stink coming
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/28/10 at 11:04:26


053D30393A3B3C2026550 wrote:
[quote author=7D5C5F594A380 link=1290910978/0#6 date=1290929479][quote author=0D3C313C3934335D0 link=1290910978/0#5 date=1290926719]


Smells worse than English cooking.




& reasonably so, youre not a kidney.


The only way I can envision "kidney pie" ever coming to be created is out of famine.

I figure the first guy to eat a crab was pretty danged hungry.
Hey I Happen to like fish n chips and Shepards pie...[/quote]


I never could get into kidney pie.[/quote]




& reasonably so, youre not a kidney.


The only way I can envision "kidney pie" ever coming to be created is out of famine.

I figure the first guy to eat a crab was pretty danged hungry.

Title: Re: huge stink coming
Post by Edgar on 11/28/10 at 11:25:06

The one I had at a pub was made with beef, like beef stew. Delicious, maybe the Irish make it different?

Title: Re: huge stink coming
Post by mick on 11/28/10 at 11:41:05


5C7D7E786B190 wrote:
The one I had at a pub was made with beef, like beef stew. Delicious, maybe the Irish make it different?

As a rule their is very little kidney in a S&K pie it's mostly steak,maybe 2 or 3 pieces of kidney because it has a very strong flavor, like wild game,naturally you have to boil the piss out of it ;)

Title: Re: huge stink coming
Post by mick on 11/28/10 at 11:54:04


2E3137302D2A1B2B1B23313D76440 wrote:
I wonder whats gonna happen when the deniers come face to face with the stuff Ive been saying...

Oh God ! I just had an awful thought,you and I might be sharing the same jail cell. It would be interesting if TWO Athiest walk out after our time  :)

Title: Re: huge stink coming
Post by mick on 11/28/10 at 11:58:04


1F2E232E2B26214F0 wrote:
I don't know what will be tomorrow, but as of right now http://wikileaks.com/ is listed as a parked site at godaddy.com.

The actual site, wikileaks.com, is still at it's I.P address:  http://88.80.13.160/  Or not.

THAT site is shown as being "underoing scheduled maintenance. "

There is also a site, http://wikileaks.org/ and IS up.

The Registar for wikileaks.org is Dynadot.

Smells worse than English cooking.

I've  been drinking...


Obviusly

Title: Re: huge stink coming
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/28/10 at 12:00:20


686C666E716D60696C68607C050 wrote:
[quote author=2E3137302D2A1B2B1B23313D76440 link=1290910978/0#2 date=1290915752]I wonder whats gonna happen when the deniers come face to face with the stuff Ive been saying...

Oh God ! I just had an awful thought,you and I might be sharing the same jail cell. It would be interesting if TWO Athiest walk out after our time  :)[/quote]



beyond interesting. Impossible

Title: Re: huge stink coming
Post by mick on 11/28/10 at 12:03:50

like the lady that went into the butcher shop and asked the butcher
a pound of kideley, the butcher said "you mean Kidney don't you?"
she said" that's  what I said didelli .

Title: Re: huge stink coming
Post by Starlifter on 11/28/10 at 16:25:43

UPDATE: El Pais, Le Monde, Speigel, Guardian & NYT will publish many US embassy cables tonight, even if WikiLeaks goes down
4 minutes ago via web

From: http://twitter.com/wikileaks
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________


Wikileaks 'hacked ahead of secret US document release'

Source: BBC

Whistle-blowing website Wikileaks says it is under attack from a computer-hacking operation, ahead of a release of secret US documents.

"We are currently under a mass distributed denial of service attack," it says on its Twitter feed.

It adds that several newspapers will go ahead and publish the documents released to them by Wikileaks even if the site goes down.

=snip=

The newspapers set to publish details of the US embassy cables include Spain's El Pais, France's Le Monde, Germany's Speigel, the UK's Guardian and the New York Times.

Full article: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11858637

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

BREAKING NEWS 5:13pm UK, Sunday November 28, 2010

WikiLeaks Claim: 'We're Under Cyber Attack'

Alison Chung, Sky News Online

Thousands of potentially embarrassing US documents are due to be published by whistleblower website WikiLeaks - but the organisation says it is under cyber attack.

The secret files - believed to be the first batch of up to 2.7 million documents to be published - are expected to be released this evening.

But Wikileaks has written on Twitter: "We are currently under a mass distributed denial of service attack."

Sky News has been able to access the whistleblower website and news outlets that have already seen the documents insist they will go ahead in publishing the contents.

The internet relies on DNS. DNS translates names like "wikileaks.org" into an IP address used by computers. At the moment, wikileaks.org translates to 46.51.186.222

There's nothing to prevent changing that DNS record, and the US Gov't owns the 'root' DNS servers. So they could change it so that "wikileaks.org" comes back as 72.14.204.103 (google.com). Or any other address they felt like using.

Now, if you happen to know the old address for wikileaks, you could still get there. But if you didn't happen to save that (and who would?) then you're going to go to the new address.


Title: Re: huge stink coming
Post by WebsterMark on 11/28/10 at 17:30:05

hacking the site doesn't matter anylonger. They pre-released selected documents to The Guardian and New York Times.

What wil be interesting to watch is the spin coming from all sides. The last batch of documents that were released really didn't reveal anything surprising. So far from what I've read, none of this is man ites dog news. The fact that the Saudis want to get rid of Iran is not news, funding for Al Queda comes from Saudi isn't news either. China being involved in computer spying isn't a surprise, it would be more shocking to find out they were not. Its early in the game and they claim 250,000 documents will come out.

Title: Re: huge stink coming
Post by WebsterMark on 11/29/10 at 10:33:38

Just listened to Hillary Clinton’s statement on the stolen cables and thought she did an excellent job minimizing any damage and basically saying the people who did this are not heros by any stretch of the imagination.

It reminded me that if the liberal dominated press had treated John Edwards like they would have treated any Republican, they would have exposed his affair earlier. Had they done that, his delegates would have swung to Hilllary and with her lead, the later states would have still likely voted for her in droves. If you recall, Obama lost many of the later primaries. As the Democratic nominee, she would likely have beaten McCain as well.  If she had, this silly Obamacare wouldn’t have happened and it’s doubtful the mega-bailout would have occurred. As it stands now, Obama is probably a one term President. All because creepy little Johnny got his tail covered by his media pals.

Title: Re: huge stink coming
Post by buttgoat1 on 11/29/10 at 14:38:32

apparently they need to consult with the college registrars where barry attended and officials in charge of hawaiian birth records.
THEY know how to keep stuff under wraps.

Title: Re: huge stink coming
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/29/10 at 16:11:21


56415247414641524D200 wrote:
apparently they need to consult with the college registrars where barry attended and officials in charge of hawaiian birth records.
THEY know how to keep stuff under wraps.




Im gonna hafta call that
Funcky


Funny AND tacky, all at the same time..

Title: Re: huge stink coming
Post by mick on 11/29/10 at 17:31:04


382F3C292F282F3C234E0 wrote:
apparently they need to consult with the college registrars where barry attended and officials in charge of hawaiian birth records.
THEY know how to keep stuff under wraps.

What is wrong with you buttgoat ? do you honestly think he a alien.
Ihe was he would still be twice as good as McCain and Sarah palin.
If I knew personaly for sure BO was an alien ,I would't say a word for fear of the alternative.
Here is a little quote from your beloved idiot Ronald Reagan.
" Those gentlemen are the moral equivalent of America's founding fathers"
He was refering to the Talaban while they were fighting against the russians,

Title: Re: huge stink coming
Post by buttgoat1 on 11/29/10 at 19:33:47

thanks JOG
glad you appreciated it

its funny, barry once forced a political opponent to drop out of a race by suing to have his sealed divorce records unsealed, yet the chickensh1t has everything of his locked away,

oh, and in todays irony, low wage union members are losing theirs kids insurance:

"One of the largest union-administered health-insurance funds in New York is dropping coverage for the children of more than 30,000 low-wage home attendants, union officials said. The union blamed financial problems it said were caused by the state’s health department and new national health-insurance requirements"

http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2010/11/20/union-drops-health-coverage-for-workers-children/

talk about morons, the SEIU made barry, and under the bus they go...
suckers........



Title: Re: huge stink coming
Post by mick on 11/30/10 at 01:51:13

If it hadn't been for Repugnant party, OBs origional plan of single payer would have passed and all these people would be happy.
The republican party is a wholly owned subsidiary of the insurance industry" One day in the future Americans will wake up to the fact that the insurance business runs this country,every time health insurance come up they spend millions and millions to crush it. And people like you cheer them along while 44,000 Americans die every year for lack of health care,talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.
unbelievable !

Title: Re: huge stink coming
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/30/10 at 07:17:43

OB's plan? Hell, the whole thing was written by insurance companies & Big Pharma, not our representatives & sure as hell not Bammy.


If OUR people wrote it, they could have explained it, Since no one in DC could actually explain what was in the bill, that pretty well says

We Didnt write it

now dont it?

Title: Re: huge stink coming
Post by mick on 11/30/10 at 12:39:26


554A4C4B5651605060584A460D3F0 wrote:
OB's plan? Hell, the whole thing was written by insurance companies & Big Pharma, not our representatives & sure as hell not Bammy.


If OUR people wrote it, they could have explained it, Since no one in DC could actually explain what was in the bill, that pretty well says

We Didnt write it

now dont it?

Justin you know good and well that "The President of the United States of America"  wanted a single payer system ,we all pay Uncle Sam out of our paychecks, the government will run health care, instead of FOR PROFIT insurance company's, who have full time employees trying to figure out how to screw you out of ANY claims you might have,
Strikes me as odd Justin you don't take the time to find out these things. Insurance company's are all crooked,there are no exceptions.
Just after the Legal election Obama put his health plan to the test,he made the mistake of trusting the republicans, he tried to be fair ,but it was way to late ,the insurance company's had allready gotten to the Reps,with huge gifts of cash,in the millions. It's very hard to compete against crooks,very greedy crooks who coulden't care less about you or me.

Title: Re: huge stink coming
Post by WebsterMark on 11/30/10 at 13:38:14

Mick, it’s laughable to say Obama trusted Republicans……he strong-armed them from the beginning. It didn’t matter to him what the Republicans thought. (or his fellow Democrats for that matter) He took advantage of enough stupid Democratic congressmen to get the bill passed and then many of them lost their seat because of it.

Besides, as JOG said, the insurance companies wrote the bill to begin with. President Hopey-Change never let anyone in Congress get involved. That’s why they didn’t know what was in it, they were not significantly involved in its creation.  

How is a bureaucrat with no profit motive, but plenty of other motives, making your healthcare decisions is  preferable over a for-profit insurance company?

Title: Re: huge stink coming
Post by mick on 11/30/10 at 15:12:23


1F2D2A3B3C2D3A05293A23480 wrote:
Mick, it’s laughable to say Obama trusted Republicans……he strong-armed them from the beginning. It didn’t matter to him what the Republicans thought. (or his fellow Democrats for that matter) He took advantage of enough stupid Democratic congressmen to get the bill passed and then many of them lost their seat because of it.

Besides, as JOG said, the insurance companies wrote the bill to begin with. President Hopey-Change never let anyone in Congress get involved. That’s why they didn’t know what was in it, they were not significantly involved in its creation.  

How is a bureaucrat with no profit motive, but plenty of other motives, making your healthcare decisions is  preferable over a for-profit insurance company?

Definately, without a shadow of doubt. The government have no reason to deny coverage. See the movie "the  Rainmaker" it is based on a true story, See the Movie "Sicko" As soon as that movie aired the repubs put together a sceme to railroad Michael Moore,i know you won't see the movie because you are all scared of the truth ,and how the insurance industry has been screwing you for eons.
I have medicare and extra insurance for what medicare will not pay,which is most of it. that is $228 per month out of my SS of $1000 a month.
I can manage,
But my concern is the 55 milion without insurance, and the 44 thousand people a year who die just for the lack of medical care. is that something you all are proud of ? Or is it something you want to do something about ? Or is the old retort I hear from most Americans,
Fu+k you Jack I'm just fine".  A government run system would be great for EVERYBODY.  

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