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Message started by mick on 12/14/10 at 19:41:12

Title: guess what this is ?
Post by mick on 12/14/10 at 19:41:12

Ok name this bike. A new game.

http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr311/mickrowe37/motoguzzi.jpg

Title: Re: guess what this is ?
Post by mick on 12/14/10 at 19:44:32

how about this one ?

http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr311/mickrowe37/carberryenfieldvtwin2.jpg

Title: Re: guess what this is ?
Post by mick on 12/14/10 at 19:47:42

this one ?

http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr311/mickrowe37/005-3.jpg

Title: Re: guess what this is ?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/14/10 at 19:48:55

Top one has a Guzzi decal on the tank & that old exposed flywheel thing.. but just what it is, IDK..

Title: Re: guess what this is ?
Post by verslagen1 on 12/14/10 at 19:49:50

BSA 650 twin

Title: Re: guess what this is ?
Post by JohnBoy on 12/14/10 at 20:20:37

is number three a 1952 AJS single?

Title: Re: guess what this is ?
Post by Lupo on 12/14/10 at 20:22:34

1st one #26 is badged Moto Guzzi but the engine looks Gilera. 2nd one looks Vincent. 3rd I'm guessing BSA Road Rocket.

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Post by JohnBoy on 12/14/10 at 20:27:25

is number two an HRD/Vincent 990cc about 1952?

Title: Re: guess what this is ?
Post by mick on 12/14/10 at 22:13:54

537671775B7660190 wrote:

is number two an HRD/Vincent 990cc about 1952?

I thought that #2 would get you guys, Actuall it's a 1000 cc Royal Enfield, or two singles put together by a smart guy.

Title: Re: guess what this is ?
Post by Midnightrider on 12/15/10 at 08:21:17

The Japanesse had pretty much dominated the market around here when I was growing up. The only European motorcycle I spent any time with in my youth was a Ducati my uncle owned. It was sold and marketed by Sears and branded with Sear's Allstate Badge. It was a good motorcycle and my uncle let me put several miles on it. The pictures of the old European motorcycles really fascinate me. I know enough about history to realise the Japaneese would have still been building scooters if it wasnt for Triumph and BSA. I remember drooling when the Honda 450 came out and I realise it was a copy of a couple of European bikes. Mick you grew up at a good time, I like to refer to it as The Golden Age Of Motorcycling. I've owned five European motorcycles in my lifetime and right now if I could get any of my bikes back it would be two of the European ones I've owned. A 1974 Moto Guzzi Intercepter and a 2000 Triumph Thunderbird were my two favorites of the 20+ motorcycles I've owned. The Europeans are the true designers and innovators. For the most part the Japaneese copy making small improvements along the way. Right now its 21 degrees here and the old pics are a great way to pass the time. Keep em comin Mick ;)

Title: Re: guess what this is ?
Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 12/15/10 at 10:38:30

While not intending to be disrespectful of the Japanese, in my opinion, they are the great copiers of everything. Yes, they make minor improvements along the way.

But their greatest skill is copying something, and then building it with excellent build quality.

For those who know far more than I - has a Japanese company ever done any real innovation in any product? Have they really invented anything in the industrial sense?

Title: Re: guess what this is ?
Post by verslagen1 on 12/15/10 at 11:22:52

The Japanese aircraft industry prior to WWII was said to be innovative.
Best example being the Zero. But late in the war, seems to fall into your description as copiers being given several designs by their axis buddies.

Title: Re: guess what this is ?
Post by Serowbot on 12/15/10 at 11:37:20

2D222E242F2229252235202235470 wrote:

For those who know far more than I - has a Japanese company ever done any real innovation in any product? Have they really invented anything in the industrial sense?

Uhhh,... ever heard of Sony?... CD"s. DVD"s, Video cassette, floppy disc, ...
Plasma tv's,..
... and don't forget Ramen noodles, the Magnificent Seven, and Karoke'... ;D...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_inventions

Title: Re: guess what this is ?
Post by mick on 12/15/10 at 11:49:55

3639353F3439323E392E3B392E5C0 wrote:

they did a good job of copying German Cameras,they copied Lieca,and Roliflex to perfection, my Dad who repaird cameras for a living could hardly tell the difference, strangly enough the giveaway was the black material that covered there cameras,they used an inferior glue ,and it used to peel off easily.the only other way was to look at the lens, it said "Made in Japan"

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Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/15/10 at 22:19:51

In late 1945, after the end of World War II, Masaru Ibuka started a radio repair shop in a bomb-damaged department store building in Nihonbashi of Tokyo. The next year, he was joined by his colleague, Akio Morita, and they founded a company called Tokyo Tsushin Kogyo K.K.,[8] (Tokyo Telecommunications Engineering Corporation). The company built Japan's first tape recorder called the Type-G.[8]

In the early 1950s, Ibuka traveled in the United States and heard about Bell Labs' invention of the transistor.[8] He convinced Bell to license the transistor technology to his Japanese company. While most American companies were researching the transistor for its military applications, Ibuka and Morita looked to apply it to communications. Although the American companies Regency[disambiguation needed] and Texas Instruments built the first transistor radios, it was Ibuka's company that made them commercially successful for the first time.

In August 1955, Tokyo Tsushin Kogyo released the Sony TR-55, Japan's first commercially produced transistor radio.[9] They followed up in December of the same year by releasing th

wiki

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Post by mick on 12/15/10 at 23:18:51

203F393E23241525152D3F33784A0 wrote:

Do you know I always figured it would take small guys to make those transister radios.
Kidding aside I remember my first transister radio, It was very cool to own one, alot of guys used them in there cars,not many cars had radios in those days.I don't know why they never stayed on signal,always fiddling with bloody thing.

Title: Re: guess what this is ?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/16/10 at 04:51:16

Cuz back then, they were AM radios. Going near a [power line would make them squeal.
& now, those single transistors, 3 legs poking out of a tiny tin can, are found in the integrated circuits, holding millions ( I guess,, millions, or just hundreds, theyre TINY now). They replaced the tubes. Back in the day, some tubes were called Valves. In a simple tube, with a high Voltage on the plate & the emitter all heated & ready, current flow will be at max, but, put a signal on the grid, a skinny wire, wound around a frame between the plate & emitter, then you can control the current flow thru that tube, by putting a negative charge on the grid,( which is close to the emitter) you cancel out the effect of the + charge on the plate. The emitter cant feel it, so, current flow stops.
Same idea for transistors.Just harder to picture mentally, whats going on in there, with transistors.
Short answer is, a small Voltage on the grid ( tube) or base( transistor) controls the flow thru the part.

I was lucky enough to get the last class they taught in Biloxi Miss on tube theory when I went thru tech school in 73.

Title: Re: guess what this is ?
Post by bill67 on 12/16/10 at 05:15:23

The first tape like recorder I ever heard was a wire running in there instead of a tape,that was in 1949,Does anyone else remember those.

Title: Re: guess what this is ?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/16/10 at 05:23:16

Im not that old, but Ive seen a machine for it in the movies. heres a pic.

http://www.videointerchange.com/wire_recorder1.htm

Title: Re: guess what this is ?
Post by mick on 12/16/10 at 08:46:03

2B343235282F1E2E1E26343873410 wrote:

I remember going into a drug store where they had a machine where you could test your valves from your TV just buy new ones for the ones that didn't light up .
Now my big flat screen has gone belly up,a week after the garentee ran out one year and one week,I might take it in this morning.
I rarely watch it but I have my daughter and kids coming to visit, so I had better get it fixed for the kids.
When I was a kid I used to make sci fi cities using those old valves /or tubes that had burnd out.

Title: Re: guess what this is ?
Post by Midnightrider on 12/16/10 at 09:00:17

I still use tubes, (valves for you Mick) in all my guitar amps. They are getting expensive. Technicians have tried for over 50 years to come up with a solid state guitar amplifier that will duplicate the old allmost three demensional sound of a tube amp and so far they have failed miserably. All the major companies have pretty much given up and are concentrating on manufacturing tube amps. A major European tube manufacturer Mullard has regrouped and reopened their plant that has been shut down over 50 years just so they can supply us guitar geeks with tubes.

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Post by bill67 on 12/16/10 at 09:01:23

In the late 1940's the shoe stores had a x-ray machine you put your foot in and could see how the shoes fit your feet,As a little kid if was fun to see the bones in your feet.