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Title: ATGATT Post by Silly Ogre on 06/07/11 at 18:15:35 Had a big camping trip coming up so I was getting the camper ready. I noticed a grease fitting missing from the axle. So off to the local autosupply, I went. Well it was very hot that day and I had been on the bike all day. I thought right before I got on the bike do I really need my jacket with armor. Well a little voice inside me said yeah you better take it. I was leaving the parts store coming out on to a four lane highway. A vehicle was pulled in the middle turn lane preparing to turn into the parts store. I had a clear opening to pull out going across all lanes of traffic while going behind the vehicle. So I did well as I pulled out and went to turn left I leaned a little too far causing the peg to grab asphalt, and the rear wheel to lose traction. Yup I laid it down rookie mistake. My fault I have scraped the pegs on this bike several times and was still learning that I could not lean it like a standard bike. I found the threshold for how far I could push it and learned my lesson. So I did a quick assessment of the bike and deemed it rideable and non-reportable as far as an accident goes. I rode the bike home without any problems. The only damage was a bent peg, and scraped end cap on handlebar. I however had no damage the armor in the elbows and shoulders saved me from any injury including a bruise or scratch. My jeans saved my legs, and my gloves my hands. I was a little sore on my left side but the gear did its job. Had I ridden without my jacket I would have suffered some road rash. A week later a friend of mine works an accident where the rider was wearing shorts and a t shirt. Not that bad of an accident, in all actuallity. The rider had muscle showing in the areas that were unprotected. He looked like he had been against a grater, Nasty.... |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by skatnbnc on 06/07/11 at 18:18:42 yesterday i saw a girl riding a Harley cruiser wearing a halter top, shorts and tennis shoes with no socks....ay yi yi!! :-X *she did have on a cap helmet....lot of good that would do to counteract the road rash.... :P |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by kimchris1 on 06/07/11 at 18:21:00 Silly Ogre, glad to hear you and your bike are ok. Nice your jacket did the job and your skin is all intact.. I am 100% ATGATT rider as well.. This past weekend, highest temps in months. Lots of riders out, several had tank tops, no jackets, lil 1/2 helmets. Guess if you don't have many brains, no reason to cover them.. :) kim |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by Silly Ogre on 06/07/11 at 18:24:34 It was a good lesson for me... I learned that I was not 18 anymore and riding a sportbike...I also made enough of an impression that my father has started wearing his armor all the time...I mean the laying it down I am so ashamed of, but it happened...I debated on posting it because of how stupid it was to happen...However I wanted to reinforce that we need to ATGATT...If someone laughs at me that is fine as long a they put the gear on the next time they ride... |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by Starlifter on 06/07/11 at 19:21:26 Thumbs up! ATGATT...Live it, Believe it, Do it! |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by Sunchasers on 06/07/11 at 20:26:53 I always "suit-up". I may get some weird looks on the 90-something degree days lately, but a little sweat lost is a small price to pay. I kringe everytime I see a young couple riding two-up on a crotch-rocket in just short-shorts, tank tops and tennis shoes or flip-flops (no helmet law here). |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by jef.savage on 06/07/11 at 21:14:08 I tried ATTGAT once but after I had three helmets on (one on my head and one on each knee I didn't know where to put the rest of them and the third riding jacket was very hard to get over the first two. Glad you're ok SO. |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by Wolfman on 06/08/11 at 00:57:42 A good 90% of the riders i see around here and on the highway usualy have a helmet, boots, jeans and t-shirt. Rarely do i see someone with a jacket, sometimes chaps, but thats about it. The ones i do see rideing in leather are generaly women and/or beginners. You can usualy tell them...lol The most leather i see most of them wear are the harley riders wearing their vest. Myself i wear a denim jacket when its oven hot, leather when its cool enough or on the highway. Had road rash once or twice, dont care for it...lol |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by Z on 06/08/11 at 04:35:55 I just shake my head and a lot of the people I see around here on bikes. They wear no helmet, no gloves, no glasses/goggles, they have on shorts, tanks tops (or no shirt at all for the guys) and SANDALS!!! [smiley=shocked.gif] The chicks on the back will have on flip flops. I am guilty of not wearing a jacket and only wearing a tank top for my shirt on hot days. :-[ Luckily for me the worst I have gotten is a few bee stings in places you don't want to have bee stings. ;D I ALWAYS wear my helmet, gloves, glasses, jeans and boots. Oh, there are a lot of people who wear the little skull cap helmets if they do wear helmets. I want to ask them if they really think that little thin thing is going to help them if they crash. :-? Glad you are ok and you only bruised your pride a bit. |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by arteacher on 06/08/11 at 05:20:26 I have put a bike down while wearing shorts tee and sandals. (just going to the store for a quart of milk, dear). Tore the flesh between my left big toe and second toe, lots of road rash, and I lost a pint of blood standing in a cold shower pulling bits of road out of my arm and leg with tweezers. Now I always wear jeans and boots. On very hot days I wear a tee and leather vest, or a sleeveless denim jacket. Any other day I wear a leather jacket, and on cooler days I wear chaps as well. That was 35 years ago and the scars are barely visible now. ;D |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by Bug Chaser on 06/08/11 at 05:47:10 Met a friend for a cold one after work yesterday at a local watering hole. He said I looked like winter with my long sleeves, dungarees, and boots. As we were sitting there we heard a loud noise and turned to see a guy on a long chopper pick himself off the street. Shorts, tee shirt, and sandals. Typical South Florida attire. He didn’t quite make the turn at the light. My buddy looked at me and then looked at the other guy in the street and I could see it all clicked in his head. Later when we were leaving he asked if I ever dropped a bike. I told him sure, but I walked away with nothing more than a busted bike. Sticks and stones will break your bones and road rash really hurts me. |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/08/11 at 06:50:54 I wear chaps over jeans with steel toed boots to protect the waist down. I wear a tee shirt with a Dickies welders shirt & gloves & a modular helmet. Unless its cold, then I wear a jacket, too. Ive been told how a regular shirt wont hold up in a crash, but the one I wear already did. Ive crashed bicycles & had hide peeled off my leg by a sidewalk, I cant believe asphalt grooves would be any less painful, so I dont want me any O that |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 06/08/11 at 08:14:36 I'm 90% ATGATT. Never ride without armor jacket that is yellow in color and my red helmet ( to be seen - I don't get wearing black clothing), gloves, and jeans. However, I'm not into the boots. Probably won't get killed from a broken foot or ankle, although I know that boots add a little protection. I don't like the lack of pressure sensation when shifting or braking that you get with boots. Back 45 years ago, when I did some amatuer car racing, we wore bowling shoes with driving suits. The thin shoe soles made it a lot easier to sense pressure on throttle and clutch pedals. |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by weracerc on 06/08/11 at 09:41:37 Nuff-said - winter wear http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2010/10/29/bikepics-2088379-200.jpg the only difference is no hi-vis chaps in the hot and replace the hi-vis coat with a hi-vis long sleeve shirt - replace the full face with a modualr all white helmet - the gloves, boots and jeans are always there. |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by Serowbot on 06/08/11 at 09:46:02 Dat's da' scariest bumble bee I ever saw!... :-?... ...definitely ATGATT though... ;)... |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by Silly Ogre on 06/08/11 at 10:57:02 Jerry, I am with you on the boots...I to did some auto racing and the footwear is still the same...Flat soles with fire retardent material...I much prefer the sensitivity to the rigid boots...I wear a pair of leather shoes that have a flexible sole...May not make the best sense, but I feel at ease with those... |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by drharveys on 06/08/11 at 13:55:09 How about augmenting your shoes with some of these? http://www.gasolinaboots.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=52&Itemid=65 |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by Ed L. on 06/08/11 at 18:16:54 I would rather sweat than bleed. Summer riding I wear a mesh jacket, jeans, gloves, ff helmet and boots. Winter I swap out the mesh jacket for a leather. I've been real glad I wear gear more than once. Forgot to put the kick stand down and fell over at a gas station slamming my helmet off the pump on the way down. It didn't hurt anything except for my ego but without the skid lid I would of gotten a real good egg or a nice cut. Been down enough times so I wear gear all the time. |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by 2whlthrpy on 06/08/11 at 18:48:21 Bumble bee that looks like he is about to rob a bank... ;D I live in Florida 8-) and I wear long pants, usually jeans, mesh jacket with padding, full face helmet, leather gloves - all the time. Dont care if its 95 out. I also am guilty of wearing jogging shoes or leather sneakers though. ::) |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/08/11 at 20:29:06 A sports spray bottle, pump it up, hang the hose w/ nozzle & valve on the side O th bike.. pull over & get wet & ride,, I get wet before I ride off & stay cooler. |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by prsavage on 06/08/11 at 22:29:01 I am an ATGATT rider. I just got a very nice three season jacket that goes down to mesh and all the armour for summer riding. It would be nice if summer got here now. I also wear at least jeans and boots but for highway riding I have kevlar and armoured pants. Always gloves and glasses too, and usually full face helmet instead of my half helmet. |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by Sunchasers on 06/08/11 at 22:48:19 (How about augmenting your shoes with some of these? http://www.gasolinaboots.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=52&...) Cool....Leather gators! |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by verslagen1 on 06/08/11 at 23:10:50 and there's these... http://www.leatherlegs.net/BB.jpg http://www.leatherlegs.net/llegpic2new.html |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/09/11 at 07:00:40 Or, save yer $$$ & hack the tops off that old pair O boots in the closet.. & Do NOT ask me where I came up with that or if Ive ever seen it done,, coff, coff.. |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by weracerc on 06/09/11 at 07:31:20 or these http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2011/06/09/bikepics-2221653-200.jpg Be Seen! - Be Safe! |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by 2whlthrpy on 06/09/11 at 19:04:48 Ok weracerc do you really wear those? I agree bee seen bee safe but they do look like a bumble bees legs after collecting pollen all day. :-X |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/09/11 at 21:03:28 Why do ya think the board is all abuzz over them? |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by Sunchasers on 06/09/11 at 23:08:47 607F797E63645565556D7F73380A0 wrote:
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by weracerc on 06/10/11 at 08:49:10 I have them - not worn them yet - when the hi-vis chaps wear out then these are on deck to take their place - these are also excellent for all season riding.and cheap $7......worlds largest bumble bee! - I was going for the Power Ranger effect but bumble bee will do |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by kimchris1 on 06/10/11 at 11:12:01 Weracerc, what type of material are those made of? Is it something that could melt if it should come into contact with the exhaust? Curious as the material looks to be of a plastic type. :-? kim |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by Serowbot on 06/10/11 at 11:41:08 Note to self... If Weracerc ever posts about yellowed pipes... it's probably not running lean... :-?... |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by Starlifter on 06/10/11 at 18:40:30 Concerning tee-shirts and what not. If it's too hot for the gear, it's too hot to ride. |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by Boofer on 06/12/11 at 18:18:38 One reason people don't wear safety gear is that it's inconvenient. I'm in no way saying that is a good excuse. The Gasolina Spats look like a good solution, but I wouldn't buckle six buckles to run to WalMart for a signal bulb. I bought a pair of cheap pull-on boots so I can kick off my tennis shoes and step into them in a minute. I do wear a mesh Joe Rocket and of course, a helmet and some Wells Lamont mesh and stretch Wal Mart gloves tee and jeans You need to figure out what you will most likely wear on an everyday basis and use it. Something I can put up with may drive you crazy. The old arguments about "everybody's gonna die sometime" and "I can take a little road rash" don't hold up very well when they are picking gravel out a mangled hand that will always hurt when you get milk out of the 'fridge. And I am not worried about my insurance going up because of your wreck. I just want you to live a full happy life with a minimum of pain. ;) |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by Paladin. on 06/13/11 at 00:21:16 143326352B2E21332235470 wrote:
Some people do not ride for fun. If I need to do somewhere I have to ride. "Too hot to ride" is not an option. |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by Paladin. on 06/13/11 at 01:08:24 577A7A737067150 wrote:
The few times that I have fallen, I have been doing between 0 and 5 mph. Total road rash has been less than a square inch. I have never crashed. If I ever felt that I needed to wear "gear" I will get shred my drivers license -- I am no longer capable of safely driving a car or bike. |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by babyhog on 06/13/11 at 06:37:29 When I took the safety course, they made an analogy that I still remember. Your own personal riding style is like climbing a ladder. The higher you climb on a ladder, the higher the possibility of bigger injury. But everyone has different limits of acceptable risk. How many steps you decide to take up the ladder is your own choice. |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by Boofer on 06/13/11 at 06:59:21 Paladin, what I mean is, IF you are concerned about your safety enough to wear safety gear, then choose something you can stand. Otherwise you may be tempted to leave it at home. The level of gear used varies with the individual. :) |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by weracerc on 06/13/11 at 08:21:55 My pipes are Golden'ish! muahahahahaha! http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2011/06/13/bikepics-2223847-800.jpg |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by Paladin. on 06/13/11 at 10:29:56 466B6B626176040 wrote:
I think I am getting the idea. You are willing to climb that ladder. You are willing to climb higher if you feel you have "gear" so you will not be hurt if you fall. Problem is, I know that I will be hurt if I fall. Use of "gear" still means you will be hurt. On our trip to Rainbow Cafe (http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1279330563/59#59) we saw two motorcyclists that went down, collision or high speed drop. The gentleman that was hit by a car went in an ambulance. The man on the sportbike died. Both were wearing gear. I am not willing to be hurt. Gear means you get less pain. I do not want any. The day I am not capable to dodge the traffic is the day I stop riding. |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by bill67 on 06/13/11 at 11:51:26 6E5F525F5A57503E0 wrote:
I think I am getting the idea. You are willing to climb that ladder. You are willing to climb higher if you feel you have "gear" so you will not be hurt if you fall. Problem is, I know that I will be hurt if I fall. Use of "gear" still means you will be hurt. On our trip to Rainbow Cafe (http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1279330563/59#59) we saw two motorcyclists that went down, collision or high speed drop. The gentleman that was hit by a car went in an ambulance. The man on the sportbike died. Both were wearing gear. I am not willing to be hurt. Gear means you get less pain. I do not want any. The day I am not capable to dodge the traffic is the day I stop riding.[/quote] +1 Paladin |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by kimchris1 on 06/13/11 at 14:44:40 Most of you know about my accident back in 2010. I won't rehash all of that. I will say, without the gear my injuries would have been much worse. Defensive riding is the best protection on a bike. IMO being in gear adds to the protection level. I have my old chaps, boots and jacket that shows the signs of sliding on asphalt. Much easier and cheaper to replace the gear instead of my skin. Again my choice and will stand behind that decision 100%..:) kim |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by Boofer on 06/13/11 at 16:59:29 No, you guys are making this all wrong. I am 58 yrs old. I have always used a helmet. I don't want to make you wear one. I don't wear gear to go faster. It's like carrying a gun for protection...most will carry a pistol for convenience insted of a shotgun. I was only making the point for those who wear gear that it seems to me we will ATGATT if our gear, however much or however little, is easy to don, comfortable, etc... You guys are around the bend putting out philosophical thought that I do not have. I practice quick maneuvers all the time on open roads. I also practice braking from time to time, again on open roads without traffic. I have told my wife a thousand times to not fixate and slide through a target in the car, but to steer around. And when I no longer have the dexterity or mental acuity to safely ride around bad drivers I too will quit riding, because GEAR OR NO GEAR it hurts and I could be killed. I'm done. :( Not sure acuity is a word, but it sounds good. |
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Title: Re: ATGATT Post by Stimpy - FSO on 06/14/11 at 04:16:20 ATGATT 101 MATH Yes, yes, there are those who say that a helm is nothing more than an overpriced tupperware designed to keep your brains in one place so you can have an open casket service, I, however, chose to see it diffently. 1. Visit your favorite online or real gear shop and select all THE BEST, MOST EXPENSIVE bike gear they have. 2. Yup, it's a big investment that you may, thankfully, never even use, so DON'T buy it quite yet, just write down the amount $. 3. Now go to your local hospital and just ask what the admittace fee is, and costs per day, surgery and such as... write the amounts down. 4. Now compare amounts. 5. Now relax, breathe and try not to kill yourself by rushing back to the store to buy your gear, lol. ...on second thought, fugittaboutit since obamacare will sureley get you outta your 90° wrong way bent joints. Just think "The 6 Million Dollar Biker" http://roadsafety.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/chick.jpg L8r |
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