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Message started by RycaShawn on 01/19/12 at 22:38:59

Title: rear axle alignment
Post by RycaShawn on 01/19/12 at 22:38:59

what's the best way to align the rear axle?

Title: Re: rear axle alignment
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/19/12 at 22:42:20

The "Best" way? Thats debatable, but when youve got the front of the tire centered in the swing arm, Id think that would be pretty close.

Title: Re: rear axle alignment
Post by verslagen1 on 01/19/12 at 23:00:25

Align the belt and you got it made.

jack the rear up
spin the wheel and watch the belt, tracking in the center?
spin the wheel the other way, still in the center?

then check the belt tension, 90° twist.

Title: Re: rear axle alignment
Post by RycaShawn on 01/19/12 at 23:49:23


63706766797472707B24150 wrote:
Align the belt and you got it made.

jack the rear up
spin the wheel and watch the belt, tracking in the center?
spin the wheel the other way, still in the center?


Awesome! Did that and made sure the belt made no rubbing noises.


63706766797472707B24150 wrote:
then check the belt tension, 90° twist.


90° twist? Btw  how do I check tension if I removed the point on the swing arm and don't have the tension inspection tool?

Title: Re: rear axle alignment
Post by verslagen1 on 01/19/12 at 23:54:15

Grab the belt about mid way at the bottom.
twist it, if you can go 90° the tension is correct.

This may need some alteration, you RYCA boys have a different swingarm angle, don't know how it affects belt tension.

tool wasn't always reliable


Title: Re: rear axle alignment
Post by Wake51 on 01/20/12 at 01:08:06

A bit off topic, but does the belt on this bike require somewhat routine tensioning?

What I mean by this is my bike is about 10k and I've noticed it needs some tensioning. Is that normal stretching, or is it the belt only needs adjusting with new spec parts/when something is wrong?

*No intentions of hijacking this just seems an obvious place to get an answer while on the subject*

Title: Re: rear axle alignment
Post by Routy on 01/20/12 at 04:57:54

In 10K miles I would expect the belt could need adjusting a time or 2.
Supposedly these belts do not stretch, but seems logical the belt and sheaves could see a very slight amount of wear in 10K miles.

But I have been so impressed w/ the belt drive never needing anything,.....in 3K miles anyway. Except for the nerve wracking experience of a rock going thru the belt/sheave a couple times, there just isn't any maintenence on the drive. Some are known for squeaking at low speed,....mostly only when cold, but doesn't hurt anything,......if alignment is correct.

Title: Re: rear axle alignment
Post by MotoBuddha on 01/20/12 at 06:23:12

You might refer to the tick marks on the swingarm and adjusters.

Another way: take something very very straight, like a framing square or level, and lay it across the face of the rear pulley, horizontal to the ground. Is the belt parallel to the level/framing square? If not, adjust the axle.

Title: Re: rear axle alignment
Post by Digger on 07/09/12 at 19:24:40


5972686A58636A7C650B0 wrote:
what's the best way to align the rear axle?


Another way to skin that cat:

I used this the compare the distance from the swingarm pivot to the middle of the rear axle on both sides of the wheel:

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/3983/beamcompassezk6.jpg

When I checked the accuracy of the wheel alignment marks on the swingarm, I found them to be off by a full turn of an adjusting screw!  (It goes without saying that you can't trust the index marks on the swingarm.)

I got my beam compass for about five or six bucks at Sears:

http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?cat=Hand+Tools%2C+Carpentry&pid=00939947000&vertical=TOOL&subcat=Levels+%26+Protractors&BV_UseBVCookie=Yes

IHTH!


Title: Re: rear axle alignment
Post by kuri77 on 07/09/12 at 20:16:55

Mine's similar to above but sturdier and easily adjustable for different bikes.  I bought a length of allthread, 2 connectors, and a couple of nuts. Used a couple of short pieces of the allthread to make markers and drilled and tapped 2 large nuts.  Red locktited 2 smaller nuts inside so the left pointer can spin around to adjust.  Other one is permanent.  Center punched the swing arm nut and the axle.  Can use this on my Savage as well as my KLR.  Breaks down so it fits in my toolbox when I'm on the road.
http://i48.tinypic.com/21m88ew.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/xu72w.jpg

Title: Re: rear axle alignment
Post by 360k+ on 07/11/12 at 12:09:52

There are 2 symptoms that may be noticeable if the rear wheel is not aligned properly...  

1) If you notice that the bike can turn easier in one direction than the other, you may have an alignment problem.  This is so because the rear wheel's turn radius is outside the front wheel radius when turning one direction, but inside when turning the other direction, and will present a turning "hump" that has to be overcome when leaning.   It can be fairly noticeable, but depends on skill level and experience.

2) If you can have a friend follow directly behind you and he sees the bike crabbing to one side or the other when you ride in a straight line, then you probably have an alignment problem.  You may have noticed this with cars or trucks that have been involved in accidents and the rear axle has been misaligned.  They will appear to drive at an angle rather than straight, frame and body wise.

Title: Re: rear axle alignment
Post by Serowbot on 07/11/12 at 12:15:55


3C22253E6060570 wrote:
Mine's similar to above but sturdier and easily adjustable for different bikes.  I bought a length of allthread, 2 connectors, and a couple of nuts. Used a couple of short pieces of the allthread to make markers and drilled and tapped 2 large nuts.  Red locktited 2 smaller nuts inside so the left pointer can spin around to adjust.  Other one is permanent.  Center punched the swing arm nut and the axle.  Can use this on my Savage as well as my KLR.  Breaks down so it fits in my toolbox when I'm on the road.
http://i48.tinypic.com/21m88ew.jpg



I know I've got a big dope slap coming.... but,..
Nice tool,.. What do I do with it?... :-?...



EDIT... Shoot!... Never mind, I got it... (Dope slap!)... ;D...

Title: Re: rear axle alignment
Post by Spamy on 07/11/12 at 13:49:11

My marks on the swingarm and the brackets were not very accurate. I put a straight edge on the rear pulley and see how it lines up with the belt and front pully with the guards off.  Then when its lined up I tighten the axle, give it some spins while off of the ground and see how it looks.

Title: Re: rear axle alignment
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/11/12 at 21:46:05

You can take a string & run it under the belt, & roll the bike forward till its at the front of the pulley & run the string to the rear pulley.

Title: Re: rear axle alignment
Post by Routy on 07/12/12 at 07:55:17

Maybe heres another "slap me" question,......once I align the belt tracking, do I have a choice on the rear axle tracking ? I would even wonder why them marks are even on the adjusters,....I couldn't care less about them once I track the belt.
Ok, slap me silly,......I have to be missing something.

Title: Re: rear axle alignment
Post by kuri77 on 07/12/12 at 09:39:26

Seems to me if you align the rear axle to the swing arm pivot then the belt should be aligned automatically.  Wouldn't be if the swing arm pivot is out of alignment with the forward pulley but that would be a rarity I imagine.

Title: Re: rear axle alignment
Post by HighME32 on 11/17/14 at 17:39:41

Would a caliper work on thw adjustment screws to make sure they are the same distance out?

Title: Re: rear axle alignment
Post by Dave on 11/17/14 at 17:46:55


597876795C542223110 wrote:
Would a caliper work on thw adjustment screws to make sure they are the same distance out?


Not any better than the index marks.

The most accurate method is to take a stick and mark the distance from the swing axle pivot point to the axle on the left side - then move the right side to match as it does not affect the belt tension much when moved alone.

The belt may not center itself when you align the axle this way, as the bearing in the pulley hub can get loose and allow the pulley to angle forward under the belt tension....which causes the belt to move to the outside edge.

Title: Re: rear axle alignment
Post by HighME32 on 11/19/14 at 08:03:07

I got the perfect tool for this. I bought it at Harbor Freight yesterday for $10 and 20% off with coupon. 24" jumbo caliper. [img][/img]

Title: Re: rear axle alignment
Post by Kris01 on 11/19/14 at 20:00:25

I just use a tape measure. If you measure from the same point on both sides (like the swing arm pivot) then you can get it pretty even.

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