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Title: Anyone Watch the London Olympic kickoff? Awesome! Post by Starlifter on 07/27/12 at 22:50:00 The Olympic opening was just beautiful!!! The celebration of England's National Health Service was awesome, a huge beautiful tribute to their NHS. (It was also most certainly a STFU to our wingers who try to claim the UK National Health Service doesn't serve their citizen well.) We're decades behind Great Briton and Canada...(how embarrassing.) I imagine the NHS tribute confused many Americans as we're constantly told how awful the NHS is and that most the people in the U.K. hate it. Just as we're told most Canadians hate their system and so on and so on. Living on the border I love to tell Republicans how the Canadians hate their national health care system so much, they voted the founder of the system the Greatest Canadian. I think a lot of the pride in the (Canadian and UK) national health care systems is not only how well it works, but also has a lot to do with the American media continuously attacking it. Seriously. They are sick of all the stupid lies. Kudos to the UK for honoring their system in front of 'Mitt the twit'. (Talk about "The Ugly American in foreign lands). He made such a fool of himself criticizing their ability properly host the 2012 Olympics (among other major gaffs)...again, how embarrassing. The health care debacle in this country is an excellent example of the greed of our corporate masters, and the ignorance of the right's FOX-Bots voting base. No society can legitimately call itself civilised if a sick person is denied medical aid because of lack of means.

Title: Re: Anyone Watch the London Olympic kickoff? Aweso Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/27/12 at 23:04:00 I finally hear that interview with Mitt. Let me start with, I do Not like him, I dont want him for a pres, but then, I have to say the same for Bammy, so,, level playing field there. Mitt was ASKED by a reporter Do you think theyre ready? What he said was Honest. & Not out of line, not even particularly critical, He did say there had been revelations of weak points in the security that were disconcerting,, so what? Thats been acknowledged publicly.. He pointed out that from his experience, there are always details that have to get dealt with as they show up,, no slap in the face there,, Totally overblown buncha huuey.,,

Title: Re: Anyone Watch the London Olympic kickoff? Aweso Post by Starlifter on 07/27/12 at 23:46:37 There is a lot more to it than that. Do some research before dismissing something as hooey. Romney will be jeered anywhere he goes in London. This is particularly true because it's now being reported in Britain that Romney wrote the following in his idiotic 2010 book No Apology: The Case for American Greatness: England {sic} is just a small island. Its roads and houses are small. With few exceptions, it doesn't make things that people in the rest of the world want to buy. And if it hadn't been separated from the continent by water, it almost certainly would have been lost to Hitler's ambitions. Yet only two lifetimes ago, Britain ruled the largest and wealthiest empire in the history of humankind. Britain controlled a quarter of the earth's land and a quarter of the earth's population. The British media are also reporting that Romney has insulted their health care system and has repeatedly denigrated Europe throughout the primaries and campaign. If all these things were not bad enough, 10 Downing Street has let it be known that they found Romney to be 'apparently devoid of charm, warmth, humour or sincerity,' and 'worse than Sarah Palin.' And all this criticism is coming from members of the Conservative Party and their preferred newspaper outlets like the U.K. Telegraph and The Daily Mail. If Romney wanted to make the case that he'd get along with the U.K. better than Obama, he's failed spectacularly. Today, he wasl be the least welcome person at the opening ceremonies of the Olympics. And the Olympics were supposed to be Romney's only remaining strength, since his record as governor is indefensible and his record at Bain Capital is appalling. Thank you Great Britain for having an authentic press, for revealing the American press for the gutless lapdogs they are, pandering to the Prince of the Glorious Kingdom of Utah. He won't be able to point to his visit to the UK with any pride in his 'diplomatic prowess'.

Title: Re: Anyone Watch the London Olympic kickoff? Aweso Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/28/12 at 03:13:17 I dont really see the need for further "research",, I listened to him be asked a question, I listened to his answer, I didnt hear anything from his mouth that I didnt understand to be honest & fair & reasonable, I think people are hyperventilating over it for no good reason, & I would happily watch him dig a hole for himself..I just dont see the big deal here, I also heard an interview with the mayor from another town who agreed with Mitt,, I was driving,, didnt make note of it,

Title: Re: Anyone Watch the London Olympic kickoff? Aweso Post by WD on 07/28/12 at 05:53:07 Could have done without the Beatles cover band or Sir Paul. The USA team uniforms made Lisa and I both want to throw up. Both of us liked the way the cauldron was lit and created. As for Mitt the $hit? Who cares. Just another talking head foisted on us by the "Pettabees" (powers that be). No worse than Hobama (sorry, but he's a bit too Marxist for my tastes, so... the reference to Uncle Ho... Chi Mihn).

Title: Re: Anyone Watch the London Olympic kickoff? Aweso Post by WebsterMark on 07/28/12 at 06:26:23 The Olympic opening was just beautiful!!! The celebration of England's National Health Service was awesome, a huge beautiful tribute to their NHS. (It was also most certainly a STFU to our wingers who try to claim the UK National Health Service doesn't serve their citizen well.) We're decades behind Great Briton and Canada...(how embarrassing.) Hey Genius… NHS is starting a reorganization program that moves control AWAY from a centralized bureaucracy and towards local control. Hmmmm….. sounds a bit like the beginnings of a for-profit healthcare system… I imagine the NHS tribute confused many Americans as we're constantly told how awful the NHS is and that most the people in the U.K. hate it. Just as we're told most Canadians hate their system and so on and so on. Living on the border I love to tell Republicans how the Canadians hate their national health care system so much, they voted the founder of the system the Greatest Canadian. I think a lot of the pride in the (Canadian and UK) national health care systems is not only how well it works, but also has a lot to do with the American media continuously attacking it. Yea, that’s why there’s a steady stream of Canadians coming across the border for treatment rather than accept the rationing… Seriously. They are sick of all the stupid lies. Kudos to the UK for honoring their system in front of 'Mitt the twit'. (Talk about "The Ugly American in foreign lands). Yes, next time the Olympics are in the US, maybe we have a great big photo of Kathleen Sebelius displayed and after that, we’ll do a little thing on social security. We can have the athletes carry in giant red numbers showing the deficit…  yep, fills me with a sense of pride…

Title: Re: Anyone Watch the London Olympic kickoff? Aweso Post by WebsterMark on 07/28/12 at 06:36:05 What he said was Honest. & Not out of line, not even particularly critical, He did say there had been revelations of weak points in the security that were disconcerting,, so what? Thats been acknowledged publicly.. He pointed out that from his experience, there are always details that have to get dealt with as they show up,, no slap in the face there,, Totally overblown buncha huuey.,, JOG; we’ve been on opposites ends a lot lately, but have to side with you on this one. I heard about a flap and read up on it and thought the same thing. But… get ready because this will be standard operating procedure for the media which is in love with Hopey-Dopey. Articles like this will be given front page status while all the stupid and dumb things Hopey says almost daily will be forgotten, not that they were covered to begin with. All conservative politicians know they have two opponents to defeat: their election rival and the US main stream liberal media. That’s just a simple fact. Again, liberals crybabies can rant against Fox News, Limbaugh, Beck all they want but they created them; it’s their own fault. I know you’re not a Mitt fan JOG; he’s not my first choice either. But, what we need right now is either an amazing once in a lifetime leader or someone who’s measured in their actions. Mitt is the latter, not sure we have the former anywhere right now. We need to work our way out of Hopey-Dopey’s mess and try to salvage this before we turn into a middle tier country, dependant on others. One of the single biggest unbelievable traits of Hopey-Dopey is his willingness for America to cede leadership. It’s hard to believe we have a guy in the Oval Office who is so …… un-American.

Title: Re: Anyone Watch the London Olympic kickoff? Aweso Post by Starlifter on 07/28/12 at 15:06:56 "the US main stream liberal media" ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Anyone Watch the London Olympic kickoff? Aweso Post by Serowbot on 07/28/12 at 15:34:47 The paper that called Romney a twit,.. was the SUN... owned by R.Murdoch.. owner of Fox News... :-?...

Title: Re: Anyone Watch the London Olympic kickoff? Aweso Post by Starlifter on 07/28/12 at 15:43:40 When a man who has been running non-stop for president for almost a decade has NO CLUE that it's a common practice to release many years of tax returns, he's a moron. When a man runs for president based on his business experience and he has NO IDEA that his business practices will be looked at by his opponents, he'd an idiot. When you run based upon your "success" as the head of an Olympics and you belittle the work of other Olympic organizers, you're a dipshit. Face it, Romney is too darn STOOOPID to know that when you're a guest in someone else's home (or country) you don't insult your hosts. If you're enough of a turdbrain to insult your hosts and they slap you down, you DON'T compound the situation by having your flunkies double down on the insults. Mitt the Twit Romney is STUPID! He is an out of touch with reality reality tv version of Richie Rich, a moron who has had a lifetime of well paid yes men telling him that he's a genius and covering up his f*** ups.   12 years ago, the Supreme court installed a moron in the white house. We learned a painful 8 year lesson that morons don't make good presidents. They don't even make mildly bad presidents. They make HORRIBLE presidents. I'm 66 years old. I thought that I'd never see a candidate as stupid as GW again. I SURE AS HELL didn't think I'd see one that was even more stupid! He doesn't even bother to get stuff right because he figures he doesn't have to. His base doesn't care, and Fox doesn't care, so why should he care?... If the pubs want him as POTUS they will fix it so that he is POTUS. ...or maybe not, he's so out of touch that even the repub base can't stand him.

Title: Re: Anyone Watch the London Olympic kickoff? Aweso Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/28/12 at 22:58:23 That Mitt is a twitt is not the issue. I personally despise that  jakass,, but that doesnt mean he is less qualified that Obama, Yes, Mitt sux,, but so does Bammy,& the deal in London is completely overblown,theres absolutely NO justification for all the uproar, Plenty to gig him on, but not that.,

Title: Re: Anyone Watch the London Olympic kickoff? Aweso Post by WebsterMark on 07/29/12 at 04:33:18 The best comment I heard about the opening ceremonies sums things up perfectly: It’s hard to believe the opening ceremonies in London England were more communist than the ones in Beijing China….

Title: Re: Anyone Watch the London Olympic kickoff? Aweso Post by Starlifter on 07/29/12 at 18:01:59 The Brits are Communists now?? ;D One of the characteristics of stupid people is that they're too dumb to realize how stupid they are.

Title: Re: Anyone Watch the London Olympic kickoff? Aweso Post by Serowbot on 07/29/12 at 18:13:46 See the grey areas,.. that's the places without Universal health or mandated care... Those are the places you want to live in Webster... ;)... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/Universal_health_care.svg/800px-Universal_health_care.svg.png

Title: Re: Anyone Watch the London Olympic kickoff? Aweso Post by Starlifter on 07/29/12 at 18:33:25 "Those are the places you want to live in Webster?" ...hell, we'll even buy your one way ticket and help you pack! ;D

Title: Re: Anyone Watch the London Olympic kickoff? Aweso Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/29/12 at 21:24:05 You guys are so messed up in the head,,, do you REALLY not remember how things worked? Before HMOs, it was cheap & easy,, IDK why those things started,, but that was the beginning of the end, & Why is it that the same drugs, made in USA, By USA companies cost more here than in Canada? & ya cant go to Canada & get them & bring them home,, phhhht,,

Title: Re: Anyone Watch the London Olympic kickoff? Aweso Post by WebsterMark on 07/30/12 at 05:37:51 I’ll stick with the good old USA thank you. With a little luck, obamacare will die a merciful death which will at least be better than the elderly in the US 20 years from now if it doesn’t. I remember being in Vancouver sometime shortly before or after the winter Olympics and me and my boss were talking to three bartenders who were all skiers. So naturally, I brought up healthcare. Having nothing to compare it to, they thought it was fine. However, after a few questions, they admitted that out of the three of them, two had waited for treatment for sking injuries. However, the third was better than the other two and at one time was on track to be a top skier, maybe an Olympic athlete. Would have been a long shot, but at least his name was known. When he got injured, someone ‘pulled strings’ and he got treated right away. Which brings me to your map…. All those non-grey countries have learned to live with what is described below or will soon be force to live with it… Horror stories about the NHS abound. A 2007 survey of almost 1,000 physicians by Doctors’ Magazine found that two-thirds said they had been told by their local NHS trust not to prescribe certain drugs, and one in five doctors knew patients who had suffered as a result of treatment rationing. The study cited one physician who characterized the NHS as “a lottery.” A new study this year by GP magazine supports that conclusion. Through Freedom of Information Act records, it found that 90 percent of NHS trusts were rationing care. Rick Dewsbury of the Daily Mail was aghast at the worship of the NHS during Friday’s Olympic ceremony. The columnist noted the sheer hypocrisy of the spectacle, as “the majority of the athletes taking part in the Games will have access to the most expensive cutting-edge private treatment available in the world for even the slightest graze on their bodies.”

Title: Re: Anyone Watch the London Olympic kickoff? Aweso Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/30/12 at 09:27:45 Awww, Now, Webby,,, thats just way outside the narrative,, you otta not be postin stuff like that.

Title: Re: Anyone Watch the London Olympic kickoff? Aweso Post by Serowbot on 07/30/12 at 10:29:43 ... and our health system is so good... By Kathleen Doheny WebMD Health News May 19, 2009 -- Little progress has been made to reduce deadly medical errors in the U.S. in the past decade despite a call to action in 1999, according to a report by Consumers Union. In 1999, the Institute of Medicine (IOM) issued an alarming report titled "To Err is Human," detailing the toll of preventable medical errors in the U.S; it estimated that up to 98,000 Americans die annually from them. The report triggered a flurry of activity, including congressional hearings, introduction of legislative bills, and promises of reform. But today, more than 100,000 people a year still die from medical errors, says Lisa McGiffert, campaign director for the Safe Patient Project of Consumers Union and a report co-author. The estimate of 100,000 deaths is drawn from more recent data from the CDC. "As a country we haven't moved forward as the Institute of Medicine has hoped," McGiffert tells WebMD. ''In 1999, the IOM said we should reduce errors by 50% over five years." Even the 100,000 figure is an estimate, she says, because there is no centralized system for tracking and monitoring medical harm.

Title: Re: Anyone Watch the London Olympic kickoff? Aweso Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/30/12 at 16:36:52 That things are bad isnt something I question,, thats a given,, that bammy care is gonna be better? Thats what I question,, Im pretty sure a drowning person is in a bad spot, but painting "Life Preserver" on an anvil & handing it to them isnt likely to be a great help,,

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