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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 12/24/12 at 07:29:20

Title: Destination
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/24/12 at 07:29:20

I say 100%, full on Tyranny.

No food will be sold that is not scanned. So the goobs can see & approve of what we eat. Well,, after all,, we've signed our bodies over to Them, to be Caretakers of it. They WILL demand authority over it.
You WILL take your shots or you will be denied basic health care.
You WILL submit to searches before being allowed in public places, like malls.

If you dont see that as Where we are headed, I wonder why not.

Where do you see America in 10 years? Will we be free or not?
WE arent NOW, but I see it much worse.

Title: Re: Destination
Post by srinath on 12/24/12 at 10:09:38

As soon as whacko's with guns stop shooting into crowds at will, I'll agree with your argument.

You want to walk into a school without a kid in tow, I suggest you be prepared to be strip searched - your paranoia not withstanding.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Destination
Post by WebsterMark on 12/24/12 at 11:20:37

Where do you see America in 10 years? Will we be free or not?
WE arent NOW, but I see it much worse.


I think we'll look more like Germany than France. There is still a very strong work ethic in the US that while under attack, will take a while to beat out of everyone.

We'll still be in the top 3 economic-wise, but freedoms will continue to slip away. Now that the healthcare thing is out of the tube, I'm not sure how it can get put back in. The expansion of government and the subsequent feminization (only polite word I can think of that means wussy) of American will continue. The way this gun debate is going is a perfect illustration.  

Our influence in the world will lessen and eventually, there will be horrible consequences to pay because of it. I don’t see any circumstances where my future grandchildren will have the opportunities I had. I was never a huge fan or Romney (no conservative was), but he was at least a way to slow this downward spiral a little.

Title: Re: Destination
Post by Serowbot on 12/24/12 at 14:23:49


1A282F3E39283F002C3F264D0 wrote:
The expansion of government and the subsequent feminization (only polite word I can think of that means wussy) of American will continue. The way this gun debate is going is a perfect illustration.

There are more women than men... and more women vote than men...
More women are in government than ever before...
It seems natural to expect a literal, "feminization" of America...
... and that's not a "wuss" thing,..
Whining about it,.. is a wuss thing...

Title: Re: Destination
Post by WebsterMark on 12/24/12 at 14:39:09

More women are in government than ever before...
It seems natural to expect a literal, "feminization" of America...


exactly my point......

Title: Re: Destination
Post by LostArtist on 12/24/12 at 17:11:25

seems like Webster is suffering from thingy envy jk Web

but yeah, the whining about it . . .  idk, I think the conservatives have almost got it down

wait, what's this thread supposed to be about again? abortion right?

Title: Re: Destination
Post by Midnightrider on 12/24/12 at 17:32:52

Society as we know it will collapse unless some laws are changed quickly. In the last 20 years the top 1% are the only ones who have really profited from the capitolistic system we have in place now. Websters right concerning the goverment cant afford to keep us all up but the cappitolistic system he so stongly believes in has failed miserably. I never thought I would live to see states wanting to withdraw from the Union. Enough people go hungry and homeless there will be a revolution. Something is really wrong with this country when that dickhead in Vegas complains publicly it is costing too much to buy a politician.

Title: Re: Destination
Post by Uno-Lung on 12/24/12 at 18:19:32

It took less than five years in Austria.

http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/12/24/she-survived-hitler-and-wants-to-warn-america/

Title: Re: Destination
Post by LostArtist on 12/24/12 at 19:39:33


6358591B7A435851360 wrote:
It took less than five years in Austria.

http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/12/24/she-survived-hitler-and-wants-to-warn-america/



yeah, that's NOTHING like what's happening here, but thanks for the strawman

Title: Re: Destination
Post by Midnightrider on 12/24/12 at 20:55:43

In a tactic that would have made Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Hugo Chavez proud, city officials in one Arkansas town are deploying police dressed in combat gear and carrying AR-15 assault rifles on foot patrol as a crime control measure, with permission to stop every citizen and ask them their business, even if they are not suspected of committing any crime.
According to the Paragould Daily Press, Paragould Mayor Mike Gaskill and Police Chief Todd Stovall told about 40 residents attending a town hall meeting recently that because of a recent spike in crime, they were essentially militarizing the city.
“[Police are] going to be in SWAT gear and have AR-15s around their neck,” Stovall told residents. “If you’re out walking, we’re going to stop you, ask why you’re out walking, check for your ID.”
‘We’re going to do this to everybody’
In justifying this civil rights outrage, Stovall said residents who aren’t doing anything wrong should save their indignation.
“We’re going to do it to everybody,” he said. “Criminals don’t like being talked to.”
Seeing no constitutional issues at all, Gaskill – who admitted he hadn’t consulted an attorney – went right along with the idea. He said innocent residents “may not be doing anything but walking their dog. But they’re going to have to prove it.”                                                                                                  I'm keeping my guns and buying more ammo. There's a couple of more guns I want if I can afford them. Chances are I will never have to defend myself from an armed criminal but chances are getting better everyday I will have to defend myself from a tyrannical goverment. That's what the 2nd amendment is all about.

Title: Re: Destination
Post by Serowbot on 12/24/12 at 22:23:09

Oh, good God,..  
Hitler comparisons...   Really?...  :-?...
Healthcare,... gay marriage,... and now, the govn't's putting UPC codes on yer' veggies?...
Hint,... there's been UPC codes all the bad for you foods, forever...

Mayor Gaskill may not have consulted a Constitutional law attorney,.. but, Obama is one...

The 2nd amendment,.. was not created for people to overthrow the US government,...
We were a British colony at the time...
It was to defend America against the British...
... they intended that you fight for your country, (and your right to representation)... not against it....
You have representation,...
At the time,.. they didn't...
The framers intended that you fight with your vote...

The bad news?...  You lost... Obama won...

If England ever tries to take America back,... the framers would appreciate your help in defending America....
If you decide to fight against your own duly elected government,...
America will take you out... and don't be mistaken,.. your AR-15 won't save you...
You will die... and you will be another wacko nutjob in the long line of history.... a traitor, murderer, loon, idiot, with a gun...

You're not seeing the big picture...
Benedict Arnold was a patriot... George Washington was a traitor...
That was before America existed... they were British colonists...
Now,... you, are an American...
Using guns against your government is an act of treason...
You will be Benedict Arnold, not George Washington...

If you actually think you can win,... good freakin' luck...
You can start your own, United States of Jesus, Smith, and Wesson... :-?...

You must see historical documents though the lens of history...
The founders didn't foresee nuclear weapons, drones, satellites, tanks, jet fighters, cell phones,... or even AR-15's... (or even a 6 shooter)...
It was muzzle loaders and pony power...

This is why,.. the Constitution must be a living document...

We need a national health... The technology of medicine has outpaced the wallets of the majority of people...
We need gun restrictions...  No,.. you can't have your own personal Scud missile...
Women can vote,... blacks too,.. They will vote in their own self interest... just like white men have for 200 years...
Sorry, you are a minority now...
Change happens.... Conservatism, is the resistance to change...
Time stops for no man... Conservatism attempts to stop time...
USSR already tried that... (shut out the progress of the world)...
It don't work...

The end game of Conservatism,.. would be,.. a United States of New England,.. the country of California,.. and the impoverished, 3rd world, wasteland, of Jesusland...
And, maybe that's how it will be...
No Superpower nation... Two thriving economies...
... and one giant wasteland... much like central Africa,.. or Mongolia... or Afghanistan...

I'll go back to England... and those of you that wish it,.. can live in a land of guns, freedom, and no UPC codes... (no electricity even)...
If you want to speed up that dream,... just move to Afghanistan...
... and live the dream...

:-?...




Title: Re: Destination
Post by thumperclone on 12/24/12 at 22:39:22


796F78657D68657E0A0 wrote:
Oh, good God,..  
Hitler comparisons...   Really?...  :-?...
Healthcare,... gay marriage,... and now, the govn't's putting UPC codes on yer' veggies?...
Hint,... there's been UPC codes all the bad for you foods, forever...

Mayor Gaskill may not have consulted a Constitutional law attorney,.. but, Obama is one...

The 2nd amendment,.. was not created for people to overthrow the US government,...
We were a British colony at the time...
It was to defend America against the British...
... they intended that you fight for your country, (and your right to representation)... not against it....
You have representation,...
At the time,.. they didn't...
The framers intended that you fight with your vote...

The bad news?...  You lost... Obama won...

If England ever tries to take America back,... the framers would appreciate your help in defending America....
If you decide to fight against your own duly elected government,...
America will take you out... and don't be mistaken,.. your AR-15 won't save you...
You will die... and you will be another wacko nutjob in the long line of history.... a traitor, murderer, loon, idiot, with a gun...

You're not seeing the big picture...
Benedict Arnold was a patriot... George Washington was a traitor...
That was before America existed... they were British colonists...
Now,... you, are an American...
Using guns against your government is an act of treason...
You will be Benedict Arnold, not George Washington...

If you actually think you can win,... good freakin' luck...
You can start your own, United States of Jesus, Smith, and Wesson... :-?...

You must see historical documents though the lens of history...
The founders didn't foresee nuclear weapons, drones, satellites, tanks, jet fighters, cell phones,... or even AR-15's... (or even a 6 shooter)...
It was muzzle loaders and pony power...

This is why,.. the Constitution must be a living document...

We need a national health... The technology of medicine has outpaced the wallets of the majority of people...
We need gun restrictions...  No,.. you can't have your own personal Scud missile...
Women can vote,... blacks too,.. They will vote in their own self interest... just like white men have for 200 years...
Sorry, you are a minority now...
Change happens.... Conservatism, is the resistance to change...
Time stops for no man... Conservatism attempts to stop time...
USSR already tried that... (shut out the progress of the world)...
It don't work...

The end game of Conservatism,.. would be,.. a United States of New England,.. the country of California,.. and the impoverished, 3rd world, wasteland, of Jesusland...
And, maybe that's how it will be...
No Superpower nation... Two thriving economies...
... and one giant wasteland... much like central Africa,.. or Mongolia... or Afghanistan...

I'll go back to England... and those of you that wish it,.. can live in a land of guns, freedom, and no UPC codes... (no electricity even)...
If you want to speed up that dream,... just move to Afghanistan...
... and live the dream...

:-?...

and i thought jog left :-?
btw wheres mick nowdays

Title: Re: Destination
Post by Midnightrider on 12/24/12 at 23:13:04

According to the Paragould Daily Press, Paragould Mayor Mike Gaskill and Police Chief Todd Stovall told about 40 residents attending a town hall meeting recently that because of a recent spike in crime, they were essentially militarizing the city.
Did anyone actually read that? Cant walk my dog in this city without being stopped by a goon in a black suit carrying an AR15? Militarizing the city, I think that qualifies for a tyranical goverment.   No law enforcement agency should have the right to stop me from walking down the steet minding my own business unless there is probable cause.

Title: Re: Destination
Post by WebsterMark on 12/25/12 at 06:30:07

Mayor Gaskill may not have consulted a Constitutional law attorney,.. but, Obama is one...

That’s like calling me a doctor because I put a band aid on someone with a cut…. His ‘constitutional’ law abilities are more than a little suspect, but that’s for another day….

The 2nd amendment,.. was not created for people to overthrow the US government,...

I agree 100%. The citizens of the US could never in a million years overthrow the government of the US in a traditional battle, assuming the military followed orders. Military has automatic weapons, missiles etc…. we have a bunch of AR-15 modified to fully auto along with a few guys who have managed to make their own .50 calibers.


You will be Benedict Arnold, not George Washington...

As a fan of great writing, that’s a great phrase; worthy of being stolen and used in another forum which I intend to do.


This is why,.. the Constitution must be a living document...

There’s a difference between a ‘living’ document and one co-opted by the current media dominated liberal majority.

We need a national health... The technology of medicine has outpaced the wallets of the majority of people...

We need an honest discussion and presentation of healthcare ideas; not an impossible bill that is doomed to failure forced on us by one party and every conceivable media outlet.  It will be the death of us.

We need gun restrictions... No,.. you can't have your own personal Scud missile...

No one disputes that. I don’t want anyone to own their own sub-machine gun. It’s just all these ideas being proposed will accomplish absolutely nothing. Again, no one has come up with an answer as far as what to do about the fact there are 300 million guns in the US. No law is going to stop that. Did you see Meet the Press Sunday? The host had a 15 or 30 round clip in studio which is in Washington DC. It’s illegal to have that in DC yet he had it and was bitching about the need for more gun laws. Does anyone else see the irony in that….!

Change happens.... Conservatism, is the resistance to change...
Time stops for no man... Conservatism attempts to stop time...
USSR already tried that... (shut out the progress of the world)...
It don't work...


That is absolute nonsense. Conservatism is the adult in the room that’s needed to temper the wildness of the children who are the liberals. Both are necessary. We need the new ideas of the children coupled with the wisdom of the adults.

The end game of Conservatism,.. would be,.. a United States of New England,.. the country of California,..

Funny, but the end game of liberalism is California. Broke, busted, ignoring reality all around them and quite literally biting the hand that feeds them. They are a 'dead man walking' yet some how held up as an example. Go figure...



Now, I’m off to enjoy Christmas.

Merry Christmas to all.

Title: Re: Destination
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/25/12 at 10:58:28

I cant believe the progressives cant see where we are & see their role in it, we have "progressed" to an immoral society & are suffering for it.
Not that the "right" is right. War mongering for profit is wrong, too. Bombing the world to bring peace? Riiiight,, thats workin OUT,, & raising poppies, importing drugs, filling prisons to keep the company that runs them happy, by fulfilling the COntractual obligation to Keep the Prisons at at least 90% Occupancy!

How can a government PROMISE a corporation 90% occupancy unless its Willing to make criminals?

Hitler Would have been proud.

Title: Re: Destination
Post by houstonbofh on 12/25/12 at 16:03:35

I am just wondering when "Progressives" and "Conservatives" will realize we have more in common with each other than any of the idiots in Washington.  I could list 10 slogans that would work as well at a Tea Party Rally as at an Occupy Anywhere Rally.

Title: Re: Destination
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/25/12 at 17:57:35

Share a few. Im wondering if you really know what the Tea Party members stand for. I said Members, not recent additions to people who ran for office under the Tea Party banner. Id name Palin as one who has claimed to be a tea party member/leader who is nothing of the sort. She was one of the many who jumped aboard, well,, jumped in front of the parade & Pretended to be a leader Of that parade, then took it down the wrong street & left the Tea Party to look like idiots for the left to lampoon. The left only want to disparage anyone who isnt in their camp & jumped all over that opportunity, even while it was absolutely obvious to anyone with ANY intellectual honesty & honest character that they were Not Tea Party in their ideology. If it doesnt talk like Ron Paul & VOTE like Ron Paul, It Is NOT Tea Party. Period, whoa, stop, quit, halt,

Title: Re: Destination
Post by houstonbofh on 12/25/12 at 20:10:37

1) No more government bailouts of failed businesses.
(Really, who was for TARP?)

2) Readable legislation, available to all, before the vote.

3) No more unrelated pork barrel amendments to any bill.

4) A simplified tax system with less loopholes.

5) Less government interferences with personal choices.
(Regulation of churches and church charities on one end, and gay marriage on the other)  (Not that the sides agree on the specifics, but the slogan can work either place.)

6) Audit the Fed.
(Really, who is against this?)

And this is off the top of my head.

Title: Re: Destination
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/25/12 at 20:59:40

No time now, but just at a glance, Im not gonna argfue, gotts read the small print tomorrow, nita all.,

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