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Title: Legalized marijuana Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 01/04/13 at 12:19:24 Since Washington and Colorado legalized the recerational use of pot in November, in defiance of federal law, how can we get this whole subject re-visited on the national level? Perhaps many of you don't know it, but until the Prohibition movement gathered steam in the early 1900s, as more and more states went dry, Congress had to enact the first permanent income tax in 1913. Prior to that, the liquor tax funded the entire Federal budget, except for a few minor taxes that didn't affect the average person. We had a temporoary incvome tax during the Civil War to finance the war, but it expired when the war ended. Think what a national pot tax would do for the deficit. |
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Title: Re: Legalized marijuana Post by srinath on 01/04/13 at 12:49:04 616E6268636E65696E796C6E790B0 wrote:
Pot is easy to grow and you can smoke or cook wiht it right off the plant. So I think it will do nothing for defishit, on second thought, OK OK It will wpie out the defishit, come on you repugs, you need to legalise and tax it now. Only the librull's will be smoking, and they will be taxed ... and better than that, they will go crazy and just let you win all elections. Yea ... repugs need to legalise it. Now. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Legalized marijuana Post by Serowbot on 01/04/13 at 12:56:01 7D727E747F7279757265707265170 wrote:
+1.... ;)... ... and there would be savings on court costs, incarceration costs, and enforcement costs... That's additional revenue, and reduced government... ... and maybe the mass shooter wackos will just just get high instead of shooting people... (I hardly ever feel like shooting people when I'm high)... :-?... |
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Title: Re: Legalized marijuana Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/04/13 at 13:50:13 The reason for the income tax is far different from your imagined "need". In 1913 the Fed REserve was created. It IS a Bank & it Loans $$$ to America. They had to create a mechanism by which they could get paid the interest on that loan,, Your income taxes dont go to run the nation, they go to pay the feds interest. |
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Title: Re: Legalized marijuana Post by LANCER on 01/04/13 at 14:28:34 726D6B6C71764777477F6D612A180 wrote:
YEP |
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Title: Re: Legalized marijuana Post by LANCER on 01/04/13 at 14:33:17 6D6C77707F6A761E0 wrote:
Pot is easy to grow and you can smoke or cook wiht it right off the plant. So I think it will do nothing for defishit, on second thought, OK OK It will wpie out the defishit, come on you repugs, you need to legalise and tax it now. Only the librull's will be smoking, and they will be taxed ... and better than that, they will go crazy and just let you win all elections. Yea ... repugs need to legalise it. Now. Cool. Srinath.[/quote] Don't be so sure about that dude. ::) You never know who may support PERSONAL FREEDOMS. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, remember ? |
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Title: Re: Legalized marijuana Post by MShipley on 01/04/13 at 14:36:24 Havnt smoked weed in 30 years but have always thought it quite hypicritical for society to OK booze and not pot. People dont get high and think hey lets go rob a bank.........unless there are twinkies inside. |
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Title: Re: Legalized marijuana Post by LANCER on 01/04/13 at 15:03:58 Mellow, not rowdy ... that's my motto. 8-) |
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Title: Re: Legalized marijuana Post by Starlifter on 01/04/13 at 18:15:53 The government is missing the boat big time on this one...The "war on Drugs" (pot wise) is a complete failure and a wast of time and money. |
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Title: Re: Legalized marijuana Post by MShipley on 01/04/13 at 18:17:36 at last Starlifter, something we can call common ground. your starting to sound like a Libretarian. |
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Title: Re: Legalized marijuana Post by Drifter on 01/05/13 at 07:17:03 Alot less fights also. Never met a guy smokin that wanted to fight or kill, couple shots of whisky and you grow 4 feet and your brain shrinks to the size of a baseball....its fighten time. ;) |
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Title: Re: Legalized marijuana Post by LANCER on 01/05/13 at 07:21:52 677942435A464F532A0 wrote:
Could it be ? ? .................... yes. 8-) |
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Title: Re: Legalized marijuana Post by Starlifter on 01/05/13 at 11:58:01 Aww, there is a lot of common ground between myself and most others here, it's just that this is the "Tall Table" where the emphases is on the uncommon ground. :D |
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Title: Re: Legalized marijuana Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/06/13 at 18:41:35 606D626F697E3E3B0C0 wrote:
For any who dont understand, & that would be all who disagree, read Creature from Jekyll Island. It will change your world view. Your reality will change. Youll never see the world thru the same eyes again,. AND, it reads like a murder mystery. Its not dry & boring, its a fun read. I hated having to lay it down to go do the things life demands we do., I couldnt wait to get back to it & read more. Its inexpensive & a book to cherish. I hope I get mine back some day, |
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Title: Re: Legalized marijuana Post by srinath on 01/06/13 at 18:47:12 Quoting someone or suggesting you read a book - seriously its a point of view. Its right about the same as saying - listen to John "I am not a windbag, I just sound, think and act like one" Boehner, he speak truth, and see Rush "I shall say what I want about not doing drugs while snorting this powder here cos it is headache powder" Limbaugh and Glenn "even my circle of friends is square" Beck agree. Yes they said Mitt "I am my own opposite" Romney should be president, or our freedoms are going to be lost to socialism. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: Legalized marijuana Post by Midnightrider on 01/06/13 at 19:59:16 Every now and then JOG hits one out of the park and this time he's done it again. The book is more of a history book than opinion. Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders were responsible for a half ass audit of the Federal Reserve and some of the results that weren't hidden came out during the middle of all the campaigning. The Reserve printed over 18 trillion and gave it away to several of our crookedest banks, foreign banks that finance terrorist, foreign countries that do not share our interest and so on. Who gave them the right to do so. Thats more money than our national debt. Notice neither canditate commented on the audit. The Federal Reserve is the most evil thing that has happened to this country other than the Civil War. |
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Title: Re: Legalized marijuana Post by mpescatori on 01/07/13 at 00:44:28 4B556E6F766A637F060 wrote:
Very wise and solemn observation. While attending Staff College in the UK I had the opportunity to write a Term Paper on the issue of "light drugs" and had the courage to go upstream, look at the issue with a different approach, authentic "thinking out of the box". The issue over light drugs is purely cultural. I'll say it out loud, the issue is culture. There are Nations in this world where it is legal, no, it is customary to chew on herbs and carry on your daily work, because you will feel less fatigue. Yet nobody will commit a crime by OD'ing those herbs. There are Nations where alcohol is an integral part of life as much as fruit&vegetables, and wine is served openly; yet drunkenness is seen as a vile and debasing thing, and socially unacceptable. You can have dinner at a restaurant and a bottle of wine (not a glass, they will leave the whole bottle on the table) and you will walk home undisturbed. There are Nations who take pride in declaring themselves dry during weekdays, yet will go on drinking sprees on weekends, and people (teenagers too) will be picked up semiunconscious with their faces in the gutter the next day. Those nations often hold the record for crimes and violence related to alcohol abuse. The issue is culture. Demonize something because you can't socially handle it, and two things will happen: - organized crime will make the best of it, - people will Just as it is useless, from a cultural point of view, to allow teenagers to drive at 16 yet outlaw the consumption of alcohol before they're 21, it is just as useless to ban the consumption of a herb which doeas have its advantages if used wisely. Quite simply, learn to use it wisely. If it has medical properties, allow its consumption through a medical prescription and its purchase through a Pharmacy, period. And, just like for other medicines, this should be valid nationwide, else there is the infringement of the rights of the ill who are forbidden a cure, or at least a palliative. If it has recreational qualities, allow its use and sale in the same terms as other "recreational" substances such as spirits. If a 21 y.o. can buy a bottle of Jack Daniel's, why can't he buy a 5-pack of "pharmaceutically controlled" weed? Mind you, I wish the same applied over here as well. And NO, I wouldn't smoke it anyway. But it would take a whole lot of money away from organized crime and into the industry => into taxes. By the way, my Term Paper was highly applauded for its corageous thinking and unexpectedly unconventional approach. It was also rejected because "it went against the Nation's interest". So much for thinking out of the box... maybe one day... when . I . will be Prime Minister... ::) :o :D Not gonna happen--- |
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Title: Re: Legalized marijuana Post by LANCER on 01/07/13 at 02:30:21 1D39343E393738242239343522500 wrote:
It is the ultimate PONSI scheme. |
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Title: Re: Legalized marijuana Post by LANCER on 01/07/13 at 02:34:49 0C1104120200150E1308610 wrote:
Very wise and solemn observation. While attending Staff College in the UK I had the opportunity to write a Term Paper on the issue of "light drugs" and had the courage to go upstream, look at the issue with a different approach, authentic "thinking out of the box". The issue over light drugs is purely cultural. I'll say it out loud, the issue is culture. There are Nations in this world where it is legal, no, it is customary to chew on herbs and carry on your daily work, because you will feel less fatigue. Yet nobody will commit a crime by OD'ing those herbs. There are Nations where alcohol is an integral part of life as much as fruit&vegetables, and wine is served openly; yet drunkenness is seen as a vile and debasing thing, and socially unacceptable. You can have dinner at a restaurant and a bottle of wine (not a glass, they will leave the whole bottle on the table) and you will walk home undisturbed. There are Nations who take pride in declaring themselves dry during weekdays, yet will go on drinking sprees on weekends, and people (teenagers too) will be picked up semiunconscious with their faces in the gutter the next day. Those nations often hold the record for crimes and violence related to alcohol abuse. The issue is culture. Demonize something because you can't socially handle it, and two things will happen: - organized crime will make the best of it, - people will Just as it is useless, from a cultural point of view, to allow teenagers to drive at 16 yet outlaw the consumption of alcohol before they're 21, it is just as useless to ban the consumption of a herb which doeas have its advantages if used wisely. Quite simply, learn to use it wisely. If it has medical properties, allow its consumption through a medical prescription and its purchase through a Pharmacy, period. And, just like for other medicines, this should be valid nationwide, else there is the infringement of the rights of the ill who are forbidden a cure, or at least a palliative. If it has recreational qualities, allow its use and sale in the same terms as other "recreational" substances such as spirits. If a 21 y.o. can buy a bottle of Jack Daniel's, why can't he buy a 5-pack of "pharmaceutically controlled" weed? Mind you, I wish the same applied over here as well. And NO, I wouldn't smoke it anyway. But it would take a whole lot of money away from organized crime and into the industry => into taxes. By the way, my Term Paper was highly applauded for its corageous thinking and unexpectedly unconventional approach. It was also rejected because "it went against the Nation's interest". So much for thinking out of the box... maybe one day... when . I . will be Prime Minister... ::) :o :D Not gonna happen---[/quote] I will send in a "write-in" vote for you dude ! ;) ;D |
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Title: Re: Legalized marijuana Post by mpescatori on 01/07/13 at 08:46:25 Expect a free plane ticket for my being "swon in"... :) (...not my being sworn at... :D) ;) . . . ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Legalized marijuana Post by Serowbot on 01/07/13 at 09:03:12 Make it legal,... and I'd probably quit... Some things I only do, because I think it's unjust to be told I can't... :-?... |
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Title: Re: Legalized marijuana Post by MShipley on 01/07/13 at 09:43:44 Lol.....too funny |
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Title: Re: Legalized marijuana Post by LANCER on 01/07/13 at 14:38:43 Somebody load and put some fire in the hole; let's just sit back and be mellow...sound good ? ? 8-) |
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