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Title: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by Midnightrider on 04/01/13 at 18:26:26 http://www.westernjournalism.com/elderly-woman-holds-intruder-at-gunpoint/ |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/03/13 at 10:07:06 THATS the way its sposed to work out.. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by srinath on 04/03/13 at 15:48:57 And if the bullets were $100, and she had shot the guy say 5 times, she'd have got those bullets back when the cops came. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by rfw2003 on 04/03/13 at 16:20:48 77766D6A65706C040 wrote:
Except with her at that age being on SSI she wouldn't be able to afford the box of ammo, to load the gun with it already being around $30 to $60 per box depending on caliber then an additional tax of $100 per bullet on top of that, and that is just for a small box of 20 rnds of defense type ammo right now as the price is going up as it is with all the crap that is going on. Believe me I know the SSI isn't that much per month, I'm a disabled person myself, not retired but disabled. R.F. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by srinath on 04/03/13 at 16:25:28 66726326242427140 wrote:
Except with her at that age being on SSI she wouldn't be able to afford the box of ammo, to load the gun with it already being around $30 to $60 per box depending on caliber then an additional tax of $100 per bullet on top of that, and that is just for a small box of 20 rnds of defense type ammo right now as the price is going up as it is with all the crap that is going on. Believe me I know the SSI isn't that much per month, I'm a disabled person myself, not retired but disabled. R.F.[/quote] Aaaah, OK there could be a disability/SSI waiver, but only a few per person per year or ever, else they will be hocking them to anyone who would buy em for a few $$ more. if used to shoot an intruder, they get replacements from the cops. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by Dane Allen on 04/03/13 at 19:50:02 5C5D46414E5B472F0 wrote:
Except with her at that age being on SSI she wouldn't be able to afford the box of ammo, to load the gun with it already being around $30 to $60 per box depending on caliber then an additional tax of $100 per bullet on top of that, and that is just for a small box of 20 rnds of defense type ammo right now as the price is going up as it is with all the crap that is going on. Believe me I know the SSI isn't that much per month, I'm a disabled person myself, not retired but disabled. R.F.[/quote] Aaaah, OK there could be a disability/SSI waiver, but only a few per person per year or ever, else they will be hocking them to anyone who would buy em for a few $$ more. if used to shoot an intruder, they get replacements from the cops. Cool. Srinath. [/quote] Or...you could just forget about this nonesense altogether and save everyone the hassle. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by houstonbofh on 04/03/13 at 20:23:12 60454A41654848414A240 wrote:
Except with her at that age being on SSI she wouldn't be able to afford the box of ammo, to load the gun with it already being around $30 to $60 per box depending on caliber then an additional tax of $100 per bullet on top of that, and that is just for a small box of 20 rnds of defense type ammo right now as the price is going up as it is with all the crap that is going on. Believe me I know the SSI isn't that much per month, I'm a disabled person myself, not retired but disabled. R.F.[/quote] Aaaah, OK there could be a disability/SSI waiver, but only a few per person per year or ever, else they will be hocking them to anyone who would buy em for a few $$ more. if used to shoot an intruder, they get replacements from the cops. Cool. Srinath. [/quote] Or...you could just forget about this nonesense altogether and save everyone the hassle.[/quote] The hassle is the part he enjoys! And if facts go in the way, the argument than at $100 a pop people would just make bullets in the garage would have had some kind of impact. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by ZAR on 04/03/13 at 20:28:12 7F7862646378797578717F170 wrote:
Except with her at that age being on SSI she wouldn't be able to afford the box of ammo, to load the gun with it already being around $30 to $60 per box depending on caliber then an additional tax of $100 per bullet on top of that, and that is just for a small box of 20 rnds of defense type ammo right now as the price is going up as it is with all the crap that is going on. Believe me I know the SSI isn't that much per month, I'm a disabled person myself, not retired but disabled. R.F.[/quote] Aaaah, OK there could be a disability/SSI waiver, but only a few per person per year or ever, else they will be hocking them to anyone who would buy em for a few $$ more. if used to shoot an intruder, they get replacements from the cops. Cool. Srinath. [/quote] Or...you could just forget about this nonesense altogether and save everyone the hassle.[/quote] The hassle is the part he enjoys! And if facts go in the way, the argument than at $100 a pop people would just make bullets in the garage would have had some kind of impact.[/quote] Yep,Srinath thrives on the attention and feeds on discontent and discord. Facts only cloud the issues for him. He's like a bad cold,only the cold goes away in a week or two ::) |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by srinath on 04/04/13 at 03:15:51 Yea and people will make bullets out if nothing in their garage ? No, you need a bunch of machinery, chemicals etc etc ... and skill ...not going to happen in the scale we are thinking, especially after you restrict everything. Once again, we cant stop 1 guy from shooting 1 bullet into his intended target. 1 on 1 killings are almost un stoppable. If we were to remove all guns from society, they will kill with a knife. Remove those, baseball bats, remove those, pink pongs ... We can stop 1 or 2 or 3 guys from a bullet rain into a random crowd if the bullets were very very expensive. It also has to be a nationwide tax and we need to get mexico and canada to play along. Sadly you are all purposefully missing the point. Mostly because "you dont want it to change". Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by Paraquat on 04/04/13 at 06:17:20 I told you that they can make them in their own garages. People melt, pour, cast, reload. --Steve |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by Dane Allen on 04/04/13 at 08:59:42 6A6B7077786D71190 wrote:
We get the point AND we don't want the change because the change will not work and will have no effect on your point. Your first premise that a $100 per bullet tax will deter crazy people because crazy people are all broke and have no access to cash is completely flawed. Your second premise that creating a massive government bureaucracy to give certain people subsidies is even worse than the first idea, and that is hard to do. The third premise of having the State, though a surrogate you defined as the police, be in charge of deciding when we get to exercise our inalienable rights by doling out bullets to replace spent ammo is so far beyond the pale. You seem to have no concept of what the Constitution and Bill of Rights were created to protect. You completely disconnect the great success of this country from these basic human rights. You have no capacity to understand how ideas like yours are so counter the security of a free people. Again, if you want to be safe from your neighbors and crazy people then I am sure North Korea will take you in, maybe China too. Nothing to fear from your neighbors there. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by Paraquat on 04/04/13 at 09:24:00 44616E65416C6C656E000 wrote:
It's a living document that has grown to encompass cellphones, social media, blogs, etc but obviously only means muskets and cannons. --Steve |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by Dane Allen on 04/04/13 at 12:01:48 5564776474706471050 wrote:
It's a living document that has grown to encompass cellphones, social media, blogs, etc but obviously only means muskets and cannons. --Steve[/quote] I'm still trying to figure out how they rung abortion out of there. Whatever your views on abortion, that "right" is absolutely not in either of those documents. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by Pine on 04/04/13 at 12:05:45 Skipping all the "what if" posts Go Granny! And once he gets home... I hope dad/mom beats his ass.. and make him fix the window. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by srinath on 04/04/13 at 14:04:03 59687B68787C687D090 wrote:
Right ... and let them do that after we have put every component of a bullet into tight control (like ephedrine or 1/2 the pharmacy aisle) and we will worry about stopping that. In any case, 300 bullets in 3 mins ... will have to stop. I cant stop the 1 bullet in 3 hours crowd. But the 300 in 3 min should be stopped. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by srinath on 04/04/13 at 14:13:27 01242B20042929202B450 wrote:
We get the point AND we don't want the change because the change will not work and will have no effect on your point. Your first premise that a $100 per bullet tax will deter crazy people because crazy people are all broke and have no access to cash is completely flawed. Your second premise that creating a massive government bureaucracy to give certain people subsidies is even worse than the first idea, and that is hard to do. [/quote] Crazy people do have $$ ... just not enough to buy several 1000. Any one can buy a few bullets crazy or otherwise. Its beyond that it gets harder and harder ... and they will walk to a random place and rain bullets on people they dont even know ? they are crazy, they may, but $100,000 on a 1000 bullets is still a serious amount of $$$ to be spent in cash. Exemptions etc etc are all your idea. Granny already had the gun and the bullets. If granny had to buy a gun I'm sure she'd buy a few bullets. Anyone that wants a gun for self defense and is going to buy it now will have to spend the few 100 more for bullets. And anyone who has a gun already I'd assume already have bullets too. So I guess I should take back the fixed income exception. You buy a gun now you pay 100 for the bullet. Again we will have to iron a few things out, for example someone shoots an intruder with a old bullet, do cops give them the old bullet of the new ones in the baggie ? My thought - old. But how do we know it was kept well and not sat in a wet basement with rat piss on it. Again I am not your answer man ... a $100 bullet will really cut off the spraying into a crowd mentality even if they are psychopaths. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by rfw2003 on 04/04/13 at 14:18:24 383922252A3F234B0 wrote:
Right ... and let them do that after we have put every component of a bullet into tight control (like ephedrine or 1/2 the pharmacy aisle) and we will worry about stopping that. In any case, 300 bullets in 3 mins ... will have to stop. I cant stop the 1 bullet in 3 hours crowd. But the 300 in 3 min should be stopped. Cool. Srinath.[/quote] And how might I ask do you plan on stopping the illegally gained weapons and bullets, or the components that are used to reload them? The laws that are passed only stop those that are law abiding citizens, not those of the criminal mind. Those that are intent on doing harm will find a way to do it regardless of what ever law or tax is put into place. I would venture to guess that there are as many if not more ill gotten firearms and ammo out there then there are legally gotten ones right now. No I don't have any documents to prove that, but I've lived in enough big cities to know how easy it is to get guns and ammo by less then legal means on the streets. R.F. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by srinath on 04/04/13 at 14:50:33 RF - the criminal - does not ever want to use 1 bullet - let alone 3000. we cant stop them ... they will make the bullet if they had to ... but a criminal is out to intimidate, not to kill. A seasoned contract killer wants to use 1 bullet to get his man. Either of those 2 - the stakes are so high we cant touch them. Illegal guns - hard to stop without choking off the ones that need it for protection. Illegal bullets - see a $100 bullet tax today will make me install a 1.5 cu ft safe and lock up my $50 - 60,000 in bullets. That would be everyone's reaction. Ohh crap, this sheite is priceless. I'll lock it up. Once again you are purposefully misunderstanding my intent. It is to stop the crackhead who is spraying bullets into people he does not know. You cant stop an assasin, a contract killer, or even a career criminal. The difference is, those guys want to kill their man or kill no one at all. The crackpots want to kill as many as they can. That we stop with $100 a bullet just cos they cant cough up the 300K they need. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by rfw2003 on 04/04/13 at 15:29:27 Srinath, I think you are mis-understanding me here. What I'm saying is, is that the illegal guns and millions of rounds if not more of illegal ammo is already out there on the streets. There is no need for those that want to do harm whether it be a career criminal or someone that has snapped and wants to go on a mass shooting spree, to go rob a store, or someones house for the ammo. It's already out there and they won't have to pay the tax, and on the plus side for them they can get it at rock bottom prices, for both the guns and the ammo even military grade armor piercing ammo. As far as illegal guns only being able to be choked off by stopping those that need it for protection, that wouldn't work either. As long as there are guns in the world period even if they are only meant for LE or military use, they would still find their way into the black markets or underground sales for illegal use. There is no way to stop it period unless every firearm and every piece of ammo and the stuff used to make the ammo was permanently destroyed, but that can't happen because the materials that are used for each are also used for other things that are in our daily lives. R.F. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by srinath on 04/04/13 at 15:44:17 RF - You misread what I said. The gun control BS wont affect any one except the good people who want em for protection, but wont break the law to get it. So screw that, not ever my idea. Bullet tax. Let me tell you what happened when copper prices spiked in 2005-7. You'd find computers sitting on the curb, with power cords cut off. If the value of something goes up, they will stash and lock them. If we hit bullets with a $100 tax instantly the street value of a bullet will shoot, to near 100. Afterall a new bullet is still worth more ... so 100 for new, $99 for "like new". OK that will make everyone lock up bullets, but also create a nice black market. After all there is still the "how was it kept" mystery. So we separate the new bullets by bagging them, bar coding them and bar coding the bullet itself. That baggie will make people know these $100 bullets are indeed much better than that unknown bullets. However a bullet stash needs to be worth some $$$ so people will lock em up. My stash could be 50K, or 5K and I'll still lock it up. So the idea is to make the old bullets worth $$ but not so much there will be a huge black market, still be worth enough to get people to lock it up ... if it stays worthless, it will end up in the hands of the crackhead. It has to be worth $$$. It will still take years to bleed out though. Took us 150 years to get there, may take us 150 to get out. So leave guns alone, heck include free bullets in gun sales ... Tax bullets $100 nationwide, get canada to go along, we tell them "just go along eh" ... and mexico ... so smugglers will be bringing bullets instead of drugs. Hey, cant win em all. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by houstonbofh on 04/04/13 at 19:59:49 If you make bullets cost $100 a bullet, more people will make bullets. Lots more people... |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by Midnightrider on 04/04/13 at 23:05:11 If a guy sold me a bullet for $100 I would shoot him with it and take all the bullets he has left. I can think like a criminal. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by srinath on 04/05/13 at 07:46:15 2423393F3823222E232A244C0 wrote:
Let them. You think someone is going to make 3000 of it and rain it into a crowd. You think 30 hand made bullets will come out of a gun before the gun jams ... You still need serious equipment to have them consistent. We will still not let all the rest of it, the powder, the primer everything will be restricted. Yes they will still get their hands on it, but it will just take a lot more $$$ and effort and focus. And they are going to rain that into a crowd ? Seriously, we can worry about that if/when it happens Midnight wrote: If a guy sold me a bullet for $100 I would shoot him with it and take all the bullets he has left. I can think like a criminal. You see many shootings @ a gun store ? Cos that's where you'd be buying bullets. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by Paraquat on 04/05/13 at 11:08:18 You don't need serious equipment. You can buy a reloading press for ~100 bucks at Cabelas. A decent press like a Dillion is 500. ...but congrats, you've just made it more cost effective to bomb people. Something that can be done remotely. Given the two options I'll take the devil I can see (on an even playing field). --Steve |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by rfw2003 on 04/05/13 at 11:19:23 1E2F3C2F3F3B2F3A4E0 wrote:
I mentioned that in another post to him, and he just ignored it completely, like he doesn't even think it's a thing that will happen. Guess he doesn't remember Timothy McVay and all the damage and lives he took with some fertilizer, diesel fuel and a cell phone or was it a remote timer I can't remember. R.F. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by srinath on 04/05/13 at 11:46:55 40544500020201320 wrote:
I mentioned that in another post to him, and he just ignored it completely, like he doesn't even think it's a thing that will happen. Guess he doesn't remember Timothy McVay and all the damage and lives he took with some fertilizer, diesel fuel and a cell phone or was it a remote timer I can't remember. R.F.[/quote] Aaaah, This topic has been beaten several months ago - maybe you happened to miss that ... and since this site deletes stuff older than 2-3 months I guess I have to post it again. OK so all you need to do to make bullets is make the jackets, melt and pour in the lead, make the shell casings, make the rim, make the black powder (remember ephedrine - we gonna restrict it like that) and make the primer (again like ephedrine - restricted), and you can then press it all together ... OK man, as soon as we see a rain of fully home made bullets wreaking havoc somewhere we can worry about how we are going to stop that. Till that happens, I stand by this idea. $100 tax a bullet, choke off all the chemicals to make the bullet components and watch the crackpots kill people with Pink Pongs. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by Dane Allen on 04/05/13 at 11:49:43 2C2D36313E2B375F0 wrote:
I mentioned that in another post to him, and he just ignored it completely, like he doesn't even think it's a thing that will happen. Guess he doesn't remember Timothy McVay and all the damage and lives he took with some fertilizer, diesel fuel and a cell phone or was it a remote timer I can't remember. R.F.[/quote] Aaaah, This topic has been beaten several months ago - maybe you happened to miss that ... and since this site deletes stuff older than 2-3 months I guess I have to post it again. OK so all you need to do to make bullets is make the jackets, melt and pour in the lead, make the shell casings, make the rim, make the black powder (remember ephedrine - we gonna restrict it like that) and make the primer (again like ephedrine - restricted), and you can then press it all together ... OK man, as soon as we see a rain of fully home made bullets wreaking havoc somewhere we can worry about how we are going to stop that. Till that happens, I stand by this idea. $100 tax a bullet, choke off all the chemicals to make the bullet components and watch the crackpots kill people with Pink Pongs. Cool. Srinath.[/quote] Ok, let's try this. Srinath, all your points are hollow and false!! You go research why you are wrong on your own, I'm not going to do it for you. Yeah, I see why you like to do this. ;D |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by srinath on 04/05/13 at 12:18:08 OK lets try it this way Dane - I have outlined the steps to make the bullet, its not a bunch of random accusations - he said this and did that stuff - so is any of my steps wrong ? missing ? not needed ? this is a self contained post, not one with several strings to outside ergo - your point of me looking up things does not apply. So - I did, and I am a hobby machinist, welder, fabricator, chemist and electronics repair guy all of it as a hobby in addition to being a semi professional motorcycle mechanic and a professional software engineer with a full time job. I know of what you need to do to "make a bullet" what the tolerances so the third bullet wont jam the gun ... Having to make all the bits you need to make the bullet, and pressing it all in will put it out of the reach of 99% of the population, and the 1% who does have the access and skills (machinists and chemists) will be so busy making bullets for legit clients for good $$$ they wont have time to try to shoot up a crowd. Once again. We are out to stop crackpots who want to spray 3000 bullets into a random crowd. Not the assasin who wants to put 1 bullet into the right persons head. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by rfw2003 on 04/05/13 at 12:22:16 31302B2C23362A420 wrote:
I mentioned that in another post to him, and he just ignored it completely, like he doesn't even think it's a thing that will happen. Guess he doesn't remember Timothy McVay and all the damage and lives he took with some fertilizer, diesel fuel and a cell phone or was it a remote timer I can't remember. R.F.[/quote] Aaaah, This topic has been beaten several months ago - maybe you happened to miss that ... and since this site deletes stuff older than 2-3 months I guess I have to post it again. OK so all you need to do to make bullets is make the jackets, melt and pour in the lead, make the shell casings, make the rim, make the black powder (remember ephedrine - we gonna restrict it like that) and make the primer (again like ephedrine - restricted), and you can then press it all together ... OK man, as soon as we see a rain of fully home made bullets wreaking havoc somewhere we can worry about how we are going to stop that. Till that happens, I stand by this idea. $100 tax a bullet, choke off all the chemicals to make the bullet components and watch the crackpots kill people with Pink Pongs. Cool. Srinath.[/quote] As I said you totally ignored what I posted. I never said anything about reloading. As far as I'm concerned your IQ drops every time you get near the computer, and I hereby will completely ignore anything and everything you post especially in this area of the boards, as you seem to have no clue as to what your saying, because you don't even read what people are typing. You just can't except that you have no clue that your idea is about the most idiotic thing to ever be thought up by anyone in the world, as it would make thing much much worse then it is now. So go ahead and have fun talking to yourself till your blue in the face as most here can see that you have no clue. R.F. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by srinath on 04/05/13 at 12:42:28 I got it, your point was - bombing people is better - was that your point ? Its hard to see posts here wihtout getting distracted by the prevailing current ... OK Bombing crowded places - You see lots of people even now try that. Why ? they can live - they wont be involved - and if they are careful and have no prior record (or even if they do) they believe they can be not detected and hence be free and live to relish the thought. If bullets were more $$$ would more people resort to trying to bomb places. Maybe - however the draw with bombing is that they can live to see the havoc and potentially not be caught. I think that would outweigh the cost savings over bullets. So maybe we'd see a increase in bomb attempts. But I really doubt it. This is the difference. Psycho "Bombers" want to live, preferably as free men. Psycho "shooters" dont care about that. Cos the last bullet usually is into their head. If they get tackled or run out that's when we have them alive. I think I can think like a psycho - being autistic, as well as having an autistic son makes me a lot closer to the psycho of sandy hook (I think). You can call me Dexter. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by srinath on 04/05/13 at 12:46:34 Dont bring in McVeigh. He was part of an organisation. With brains and funding. Its like Bin Laden, he flew planes into buildings. To do that you need means, brains and motive. This too I have addressed before. The garden variety sandy hook psycho doesn't have atleast 2 of those 3. hence he has to use bullets. You then dont need means - bullets are cheap, brains - no need for that and motive - yea they have those a plenty. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by houstonbofh on 04/05/13 at 21:09:33 696873747B6E721A0 wrote:
And just how do you plan to regulate bat crap and sulfur? (Not to mention charcoal?) |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by Midnightrider on 04/06/13 at 00:19:22 Sri wrote a lot of shootings at gun stores. Hell everybody in there is armed to the hilt. Before you could get out of the parking lot your car would look like Bonnie and Clydes.I've never heard of one, that's the last place I would go. Hundreds of them get broken into at night. A friend of mine who owns a gun and tackle store quit stocking guns because he was broken into all the time at night. He'll order you anything you want but no more in stock. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by Midnightrider on 04/06/13 at 00:38:39 Obamas lost the white support now by trying to take away our guns. I use to hunt a lot, I'm an ol country boy (grew up on rabbit and squirrel meat) but I've lost the killer instinct. I have a paralysed squirrel living in my house. She's 3 years old and well taken care of. I still like to punch holes in paper and shoot gang members but I haven't got a chance to do the latter. It was a terrible thing in Conn. but parents and drugs are more to blame than guns. You take a kid who kills his mother steals her gun and knows hes gonna kill himself before he's captured, ya cant blame it on the gun. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by srinath on 04/06/13 at 09:09:06 686F7573746F6E626F6668000 wrote:
And just how do you plan to regulate bat crap and sulfur? (Not to mention charcoal?)[/quote] We will worry about that when people actually start making their own bullets en masse from the raw materials. I am serious, 99.9 % wont get that far ... or they will burn down their garage trying. Obviously you have to cut them off @ insurance too. If you're messing with flammables you dont get no insurance payout. And bat crap is almost completely imported if I recall, from south america. Its called Guano, and for a 100 years we have been buying it from South america. Easy to choke off. Sulphur too, its mined. Again its the McDonalds Monopoly analogy. You dont need to restrict all of them, you control it by restricting 1 or 2 ... Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by srinath on 04/06/13 at 09:13:52 76525F55525C534F49525F5E493B0 wrote:
You said you'd shoot the guy that sells you a $100 bullet. I was just saying no you wont. Yea there are break in's @ gun stores, and I guess they would have to order and call for pick up for $$$ stuff. Not stock it. But bullets are small, several 1000 will fit into a 1-2 cuft safe. It was a terrible thing in Conn. but parents and drugs are more to blame than guns. You take a kid who kills his mother steals her gun and knows hes gonna kill himself before he's captured, ya cant blame it on the gun. I am not denying psych drugs are the problem, but addressing that will be serious money. Like 2-3 trillion over 1-2 years before you can even start, then several years of trillion+ a yr. That will address the cause. However $100 a bullet tax will remove the tool the psycho's prefer to use or make it $$$ for them to do large scale damage. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 04/06/13 at 11:20:17 Midnight, JOG, and the rest of us old-timers: Just ignore Srinath and don't reply to his postings. Eventually he'll give up and go away. From now on, I choose to ignore whatever he post and whatever discussion thread. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by srinath on 04/06/13 at 15:37:33 39363A303B363D313621343621530 wrote:
Yea I guess you're getting tired of carrying your butt after I hand it to you. You can ignore me, if you're spewing BS I'll be there to shovel it, and trust me its tiring, but I have to do it. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by houstonbofh on 04/06/13 at 17:32:54 4E4F54535C49553D0 wrote:
It will be so hard to source locally... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL7RKPhPxAE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnRxd615oKY |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by Midnightrider on 04/06/13 at 22:08:29 All Americans are going to have to realize that unless there is a civil war guns are forever. I never wanted an assault rifle but when the government told me they didn't want me to have one I went out and bought one LOL. My once nice neighborhood is going downhill it could save a good life someday, mine LOL. Never thought much about conceal and carry but I'm doing that to now. I'm not doing it to kill someone, I do it to keep from getting killed. If I had to pull my concealed carry if it were a rape I'd shoot for the guys crotch. If it were an armed robbery I'd try to blow the guy's knee out. I'm not the least bit interested in killing anyone, I just believe innocent law abiding people should be protected. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by srinath on 04/07/13 at 06:26:57 61667C7A7D66676B666F61090 wrote:
It will be so hard to source locally... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL7RKPhPxAE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnRxd615oKY[/quote] I will worry about it when we see large scale mass killings with home made powder and bullets. Long before that happens many many "home chemists" gonna burn their house down. BTW the guys that will do this, will first have to stop cooking meth. So we're just moving sideways there. There are bat caves - you can get em, just that there are maybe 5-6 in the country, not enough to supply 1 gun store. Like I said, the Mc D Monopoly analogy. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by bill67 on 04/07/13 at 07:00:30 77535E54535D524E48535E5F483A0 wrote:
The law abiding are protected my the cops,So far in the last 150 years none of my family or friends have been shot or robbed. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by srinath on 04/07/13 at 15:14:12 4D46434319182F0 wrote:
The law abiding are protected my the cops,So far in the last 150 years none of my family or friends have been shot or robbed.[/quote] Cops usually show up a little too late to help ... However no one breaks in to houses anymore, they know nothing in your house is worth much ... you know in the early 90's people will break into your car to steal your stereo ... now ... nothing, never happens, why ? not cos you have guns ... but cos stereo's are worthless. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by houstonbofh on 04/07/13 at 21:06:44 34352E2926332F470 wrote:
It will be so hard to source locally... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL7RKPhPxAE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnRxd615oKY[/quote] I will worry about it when we see large scale mass killings with home made powder and bullets. Long before that happens many many "home chemists" gonna burn their house down. BTW the guys that will do this, will first have to stop cooking meth. So we're just moving sideways there. There are bat caves - you can get em, just that there are maybe 5-6 in the country, not enough to supply 1 gun store. Like I said, the Mc D Monopoly analogy. Cool. Srinath.[/quote] They must all be in Texas as I know of three in Houston. But don't let them facts stop you... |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/07/13 at 21:35:19 77766D6A65706C040 wrote:
It will be so hard to source locally... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL7RKPhPxAE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnRxd615oKY[/quote] I will worry about it when we see large scale mass killings with home made powder and bullets. Long before that happens many many "home chemists" gonna burn their house down. BTW the guys that will do this, will first have to stop cooking meth. So we're just moving sideways there. There are bat caves - you can get em, just that there are maybe 5-6 in the country, not enough to supply 1 gun store. Like I said, the Mc D Monopoly analogy. Cool. Srinath.[/quote] I will worry about it when we see large scale mass killings with home made powder and bullets. Long before that happens many many "home chemists" gonna burn their house down. BTW the guys that will do this, will first have to stop cooking meth. So we're just moving sideways there. Another smear,, just because you look down on those who would do whatever they needed to do in order to have what is their Right to have is in now way gonna convince me the people who would make their own powder are too stupid to do it & not burn their homes down OR that they are currently engaged in criminal activity. You're an arrogant jerk,,screw you,, You insult ME when you say things like that, because I AM one of those people.I did quite well in chemistry, thank you.,.I scored the highest in the school( Odessa junior college) on the lab mid term. IOW, I aced it. Its a standardized test. Everyone , a few hundred, who was taking that course, regardless of which professor was teaching it, took the same test. Standardized by the science community. Everyone in every school in the state took the same test. The bats in Austin are part of the tourism. Again, you dont know guano about what youre saying. But, fer Gawds SAKE, dont allow the fact youre ignorant on the subjects & self righteous & poorly informed on the facts get in the way of your forming solid opinions & expressing them constantly. YOure a thrill a minute to read.. almost like reading what the great mind of Bill the OIl Pro Man has to say.. as if the fact that since no one HE knows personally has ever been mugged or shot, then its obvious the cops are always there to protect you.. Even tho its been brought down thru the courts that the cops dont even have an OBligation to protect you,, If you call them & tell them youre pinned down by a shooter & they come to the scene & sit in the car for 20 minutes while the guy kills you, your widow has no lawsuit,, Go Look it UP. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by Dane Allen on 04/07/13 at 21:35:30 34352E2926332F470 wrote:
The law abiding are protected my the cops,So far in the last 150 years none of my family or friends have been shot or robbed.[/quote] Cops usually show up a little too late to help ... However no one breaks in to houses anymore, they know nothing in your house is worth much ... you know in the early 90's people will break into your car to steal your stereo ... now ... nothing, never happens, why ? not cos you have guns ... but cos stereo's are worthless. Cool. Srinath. [/quote] Cops are report takers and tax collectors, that is pretty much all. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/07/13 at 21:41:17 The law abiding are protected my the cops,So far in the last 150 years none of my family or friends have been shot or robbed. Hey, Bill,, when was the last time you had a flat on the car? Its been years since Ive had one, but I still carry that spare, |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by bill67 on 04/08/13 at 01:30:06 JOG my 2012 Kia Rio sedan doesn't have a spare.It has a small pump and a liquid sealant.Last flat I would have to guess,In the 50s or 60s. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by srinath on 04/08/13 at 04:49:13 42455F595E454448454C422A0 wrote:
It will be so hard to source locally... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL7RKPhPxAE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnRxd615oKY[/quote] I will worry about it when we see large scale mass killings with home made powder and bullets. Long before that happens many many "home chemists" gonna burn their house down. BTW the guys that will do this, will first have to stop cooking meth. So we're just moving sideways there. There are bat caves - you can get em, just that there are maybe 5-6 in the country, not enough to supply 1 gun store. Like I said, the Mc D Monopoly analogy. Cool. Srinath.[/quote] They must all be in Texas as I know of three in Houston. But don't let them facts stop you...[/quote] I've only heard of bat caves in texas. I dont hear of em in NC, in India we all grew up in houses with a few bats. I dont think they can live where it gets below freezing. Let me look it up. They are in Pennsylvania, I guess they OK with cold. Anyway getting guano and making powder is not going to be possible for 99.9% - see we are not talking about stopping McVeigh, we can stop the Sandy hook crackpot. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by srinath on 04/08/13 at 04:58:00 223D3B3C21261727172F3D317A480 wrote:
You do know the crackpot isn't dealing with a full deck right ? You may be the Genius of savage.com. The Sandy hook Idiot was not. You may make your own powder and bullets. Like I said, the common psycho does not. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/08/13 at 05:53:50 YOu have no idea how smart the guy was. YOu also dont know how much of his insanity was Caused by the very medications he was taking. They put kids on drugs for A.D.D. for no reason, all the time. The school gets Bonus $$$, or so I hear. Those drugs do things to their developing minds. Havent we seen a correlation YET? The "Problem" just exploded out of the 70's. Its NOT an accident. It doesnt get this bad on every one of them, obviously, just like not every kid gets autism from the vaccines, but its enough to create a problem & THEN, the Problem THEY created MUST be solved! Ohh & HOW can we Fix It? Why,, more answers from the same group Who brought the problem in the first place. Look up Problem/REaction/Solution |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by srinath on 04/08/13 at 06:37:03 4E5157504D4A7B4B7B43515D16240 wrote:
JOG - really I dont think we'll see a big number of people going to get bat crap from the bat caves, seriously. We will restrict all the rest of em chemicals too. You only need to make 1 component immensely hard to get to put a stop to the home made production. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by houstonbofh on 04/08/13 at 21:06:04 3E3F24232C39254D0 wrote:
If you Google "north carolina bat guano" you sure find a lot of companies willing to remove it. Does not seem that scares to me. As to Sandy Hook, he stole his weapons and ammo. How exactly are you going to stop that? He could have stolen them from someone else. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by srinath on 04/09/13 at 05:14:02 7B7C6660677C7D717C757B130 wrote:
If you Google "north carolina bat guano" you sure find a lot of companies willing to remove it. Does not seem that scares to me. As to Sandy Hook, he stole his weapons and ammo. How exactly are you going to stop that? He could have stolen them from someone else.[/quote] I leave my bullets and gun lying around (well not quite - adult reach only) too. But if they cost like 50g for the bullets - I'd install a small safe and put it in there except for 1-2 in the gun. If its street value shoots up cos its replacement value is $100+ per bullet, people will lock em up. It was stolen cos it was'nt locked up, and that's cos its not worth locking up. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by Paraquat on 04/09/13 at 09:21:38 ...and we come back to this. The point I've made before. Prove that the mother didn't have her firearm secured. You cannot. You cannot prove whether or not Lanza planned ahead and waited for her to remove it from her safe. before he decided to strike. I'd say she took the bullets out of the safe also but here in CT you cannot store ammunition with the firearm. On the other hand, you could tell me to "prove she didn't secure it" and we'd be right back where we started. --Steve |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by rfw2003 on 04/09/13 at 09:53:35 I store and carry my 1911 in the way the 1911 was designed to be done, fully loaded with one in the pipe, and cocked and locked. with a few spare mags ready to go right next to it. I also store my mossy 500 the same way, but of course it doesn't have any spare mags so I keep a box of shells fairly near it. R.F. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by Paraquat on 04/09/13 at 11:16:11 If I choose to carry I never carry chambered. I take great issue with that in a firearm like my Glock. In my Sig it's a different story because it's a double action however I still never carry chambered. My home defense weapon, whether I'm in the mood for a rifle or a shotgun, is also never chambered. However I have a clamshell on my Mossberg and a spare mag on my nightstand. --Steve |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by rfw2003 on 04/09/13 at 13:16:29 0A3B283B2B2F3B2E5A0 wrote:
on my 1911 if it wasn't for the grip safety I wouldn't carry cambered, it's also a variant of the series 80 so the firing pin can't even reach the primer even if it's dropped unless the the grip safety is activated as well as the trigger pulled. R.F. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by srinath on 04/10/13 at 19:44:50 5465766575716570040 wrote:
2-3 days after the shooting they said there were several gun safes in the house including one in his den and there were several weapons in that. They were secure ... secured by him. Mommy was armed to the teeth too. So a good guy with a gun didn't stop the bad guy with the gun. Why do you think I didn't say we need to lock up all guns in gun safes. Worthless rule. A $100 a bullet will have made the thing $$$$ to stock with bullets. Especially when you're spraying it into strangers. Anyway gun control is not the answer, gun safes are not the answer, background checks will cause a lot of conspiracy theorists to alarm and make up stories and well as have true stories. Nothing will stop a guy who needs a gun to get a "job done". Nothing will stop a guy who wants to show a gun and not plan to use it. We can stop a guy who wants to spray 30,000 bullets into a random crowd by making it cost 3 million in cash for that privilege. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/11/13 at 07:43:11 Someone can steal a gun, but bullets? Naaah. People get guns into Chicago where theyre outlawed, but bullets? Thatd be impossible. Its like some part of the brain is just missing, some things you say are spot on,, then, you dive into Full On Stupid. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by srinath on 04/11/13 at 13:27:25 495650574A4D7C4C7C44565A11230 wrote:
You will be able to buy it somewhere and drive it in ... but it will still be $100 - has to be nationwide. I have always said we'd need it nationwide and we'd have to get canada and mexico to go along. Canada should go along, but mexico yea all bets are off, however they are still pushing drugs in, they will do that with bullets, we will have to deal with it the same way as drugs. Stealing a gun is a bit materially different and yes they both can be stolen but, bullets are smaller, they will get locked up far quicker cos the whole philosophy of "if my gun is locked up how can I shoot the bastard" does not arise. You leave a gun with bullets in quick access. You lock up your cache of 30,000 bullets cos it costs 30 million to replace it. The reason no one locks up bullets is cos of how little they cost to replace. No one locks up a gun cos they want to have quick access to it in their time of need. Fundamentally different reasons. THINK IT OVER, YOU'D SEE. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by houstonbofh on 04/11/13 at 13:57:35 696873747B6E721A0 wrote:
How can you possibly not understand how this can not work? I can make bullets in my garage. I am sure many other people here can as well. Sure, maybe not 99%, but who cares? 99% of people can't farm either, but somehow we all still eat. Just a few people making black market bullets can mean tens of thousands or rounds a month. Then consider the cases of bullets that will come up missing at armories and police stations all over. When you can drop $2500 in your jacket pocket, some people will be tempted. |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by Paraquat on 04/12/13 at 09:12:53 383922252A3F234B0 wrote:
Which good guy with a gun? The good guys with guns respected the gun free zone and didn't enter it. Unless she was hosting a gang bang there were no other people in her house. Are you implying she was the good guy with the gun? And as if she anticipated her own son killing her? --Steve |
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Title: Re: You Go Gal, You're my Hero Post by srinath on 04/12/13 at 17:52:46 292E3432352E2F232E2729410 wrote:
How can you possibly not understand how this can not work? I can make bullets in my garage. I am sure many other people here can as well. Sure, maybe not 99%, but who cares? 99% of people can't farm either, but somehow we all still eat. Just a few people making black market bullets can mean tens of thousands or rounds a month. Then consider the cases of bullets that will come up missing at armories and police stations all over. When you can drop $2500 in your jacket pocket, some people will be tempted.[/quote] You make bullets in your garage in a few minutes per bullet, cos the chemicals are all easily available ... everything will be restricted. You will have to collect the guano, which I would assume the gun companies will be the first to get there (cos they know you're gonna make bullets and that hurts their business) and scrape off leaving you to fight for scraps ... you wont find none of the components ... you find 100 lb guano, you wont find primer making chemicals ... McDonalds monopoly game my friend ... need all the peices, and we'll not make more than 1 of 1 piece, and you will have garage full of useless junk. Paraquat: Which good guy with a gun? The good guys with guns respected the gun free zone and didn't enter it. You're taking 1 line from my post in a random context - I dont think its the correct context here. Cool. Srinath. |
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