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Title: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 47% Post by srinath on 04/15/13 at 14:21:10 After the 47% excuse from RMoney 6 months before the the election as if to apologize in advance for his impending loss ... we have been lied to about how many are on welfare. Lets try some dry old numbers. Total number of Americans on welfare - 4,300,000 The source - http://statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/ in case that's too librull propaganda for you post your correct website. It is 4.1%. So lets try this one more time ... 47% is a lie offered up by RMoney to cover for his up coming failure. So we now say this 4.1% that is making less than the poverty line on welfare - total of $131.9 billion /yr is burying the country, when it almost immediately is put back in the economy ? Yea more lies. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by houstonbofh on 04/15/13 at 16:36:55 And how about unemployment for 2 years? And food stamps? |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by srinath on 04/15/13 at 17:13:04 7572686E6972737F727B751D0 wrote:
Yea and what about it ? Its counted in these numbers. Find your own source, this is what the govt agency charged with the job seems to have found. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by WebsterMark on 04/16/13 at 07:56:25 Yea and what about it ? Its counted in these numbers. are you sure about that? Welfare has turned into a broad term. I'll grant you that those getting benefits for the specific definition of welfare is 4.3 million. Those getting the equivalent of welfare under a different program is quite a bit larger and growing everyday. The increase in disability payments is huge; that % increase can be essentially added to what we generally call 'those on welfare'. personally, I would not lump all those on unemployment as being on welfare. I would say a great number of those on unemployment for a long period of time can be counted as 'being on welfare'. I knew a guy who stayed on unemployment as long as he could, not looking for a job, playing video games for year and a half, milking other government programs. he was never technically counted in srinath's 4.3 million as being a welfare recipient, but he was from a practical sense. The bottom line is it's a staggering high number living off uncle sam and growing daily. Romney's 47% comment was somewhat taken out of context and fools like our friend srinath (who's the equivalent of 'the walking dead') bought the line hook, line and sinker. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by srinath on 04/16/13 at 08:22:27 360403121504132C00130A610 wrote:
Disability - glad you brought that up - so that would be the guy with his leg blown off in Iraq and the guy who lost 1/2 his brain in afghanisthan right ? Good, so who's paying for it ? Obama is your guess. And who caused it ? Not Obama, Bush is my guess. There is a guy who didn't work and this and that, we all know these cases ... there is a few 100,000 that way. It still is part of the 5.1 million was it - on unemployment, and not the 4.3 million on welfare. In a sense Bush opened the flood gates - the biggest change for qualifying for these programs happened under Bush. He knows his demographic. Much Like our local republicomunnist Pat McCrory. He cut unemployment benefit payments, and didn't touch welfare. Anyway Bush also sent a lot of people to slaughter under false pretenses and some of them came back only partially slaughtered - and they went on the rolls that he expanded. Promptly adding to the deficit which now has been hung on obama's neck by the TEA baggers. The only 47% still is the 47% that voted for RMoney, who advocates lower taxes for the rich - lower than his 13% opposed to everyone else's 25% and he advocates cutting benefits for the poorest, cos he knows of 1 guy who has been playing video games on unemployment. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by srinath on 04/16/13 at 08:55:53 And these are the facts - Typically, then, the program grows in recessions and declines in economic boom times. But with the 2002 farm bill, President Bush dramatically expanded eligibility, restoring benefits to nearly a million individuals at the beginning of 2003, and paving the way for the program to expand as it did during the rest of presidency. As a result, Bush managed to oversee unprecedented growth in the program even as the economy grew. Obama then followed up on this with an eligibility expansion of his own in the 2009 stimulus package. This is the link - http://reason.com/blog/2012/01/23/bush-and-obama-the-food-stamp-presidents If this is a librull rag, go on google it and find your own. BTW Bush has touted his welfare expansion in a speech he made too. I cant find that link, but it was sometime in 2003-04. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by srinath on 04/16/13 at 09:06:07 And since you brought up disability - The number of workers taking federal disability insurance payments hit yet another record in July, increasing to 8,753,935 during the month from the previous record of 8,733,461 set in June, according to newly released data from the Social Security Administration. Thia is the site: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/8753935-workers-disability-set-another-record-july-exceed-population-39-states So lets see, 4.3 million on welfare, 5.1 mill unemployed, 8.7 mill disabled, and most of these likely included in the 47 million on SNAP. Still dont count to 47%. Closer to 20% ... 335 million+ illegals (10-80million) right. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by WebsterMark on 04/16/13 at 09:14:01 The huge number added to disability has nothing at all to do with causalities in Iraq or Afghanistan. My point, which any reasonable person would understand, is simply counting the number on the technical definition of welfare and using that for yet another stupid attack on Romney and to pump up the guy you've got a man-crush on; Obama, is misleading at best, and an outright lie at worst. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by Paraquat on 04/16/13 at 09:16:53 595843444B5E422A0 wrote:
Disability - glad you brought that up - so that would be the guy with his leg blown off in Iraq and the guy who lost 1/2 his brain in afghanisthan right ? Good, so who's paying for it ? Obama is your guess. And who caused it ? Not Obama, Bush is my guess. There is a guy who didn't work and this and that, we all know these cases ... there is a few 100,000 that way. It still is part of the 5.1 million was it - on unemployment, and not the 4.3 million on welfare. In a sense Bush opened the flood gates - the biggest change for qualifying for these programs happened under Bush. He knows his demographic. Much Like our local republicomunnist Pat McCrory. He cut unemployment benefit payments, and didn't touch welfare. Anyway Bush also sent a lot of people to slaughter under false pretenses and some of them came back only partially slaughtered - and they went on the rolls that he expanded. Promptly adding to the deficit which now has been hung on obama's neck by the TEA baggers. The only 47% still is the 47% that voted for RMoney, who advocates lower taxes for the rich - lower than his 13% opposed to everyone else's 25% and he advocates cutting benefits for the poorest, cos he knows of 1 guy who has been playing video games on unemployment. Cool. Srinath.[/quote] Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush. Point the finger all you want. If Obama wanted to go back and criticize everything Bush did he would've. In fact it was one of his campaign promises, remember? But he didn't. --Steve |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by houstonbofh on 04/16/13 at 11:25:09 696873747B6E721A0 wrote:
Yea and what about it ? Its counted in these numbers. Find your own source, this is what the govt agency charged with the job seems to have found. Cool. Srinath. [/quote] Really? How is 47 million "included" in 4.3 million? http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/46609072-people-food-stamps-2012_706745.html Can you breathe with your head up there? |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by srinath on 04/16/13 at 11:57:27 6F6872747368696568616F070 wrote:
Read that sentence again - OR get your grammar lessons - I wrote So lets see, 4.3 million on welfare, 5.1 mill unemployed, 8.7 mill disabled, and most of these likely included in the 47 million on SNAP. Still dont count to 47%. Closer to 20% ... 335 million+ illegals (10-80million) right. Read it again - then read grammar books. Paraquat wrote: Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush. Point the finger all you want. If Obama wanted to go back and criticize everything Bush did he would've. In fact it was one of his campaign promises, remember? But he didn't. He didn't cos he's continuing it. He didn't because that would look like he's not even going to try. You (as a republicommunist team on savage) are blaming Obama where you should have been blaming Bush. Webster wrote: The huge number added to disability has nothing at all to do with causalities in Iraq or Afghanistan. My point, which any reasonable person would understand, is simply counting the number on the technical definition of welfare and using that for yet another stupid attack on Romney and to pump up the guy you've got a man-crush on; Obama, is misleading at best, and an outright lie at worst. Dude how do you know the disabled from Iraq/afghan wars are not in the 8.7 million on disability ? call me stupid all you want, the numbers are burying you. Dont blame Obama for what Bush did, dont blame Obama for what RMoney promised, dont compare Obama to your hypothetical Ron Paul - he was buried by the republicommunists before he ever got out of the gate. Everything you're blaming Obama for were all done by Bush first, or by Bush in a larger sense. You once again dont have a leg to stand on, the numbers prove it. The reason you dislike Obama has nothing to do with any of the economic or other policies. Go back to talking about dead babies with abortion and how abortion is hurting women cos 50% of aborted babies are girls, and how legitimate rape is this or that ... that's what you do best. Anything numbers - they are out in the real world. Can be pulled up via google. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by WebsterMark on 04/16/13 at 15:45:15 Dude how do you know the disabled from Iraq/afghan wars are not in the 8.7 million on disability ? call me stupid all you want okay, in you insist; stupid. read what I wrote again. I'm sure the disabled from Iraq/Afghan ARE in the 8.7 million, it's just the number is so small, it's not significant from a statistical point of view. It's like when you say the one or two things that are coherent out of the thousands you say that are not, those one or two things don't change the fact, that on the whole, you have no idea what you are talking about. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by srinath on 04/16/13 at 16:19:30 5E6C6B7A7D6C7B44687B62090 wrote:
OK to get to 47% we need to get 150 million+. So far we have a good double counted 60 million. That would be 23% ... hey that's the amount I paid in taxes, as opposed to RMoney who paid 13% ... what a coincidence. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by srinath on 04/16/13 at 16:36:24 7A484F5E59485F604C5F462D0 wrote:
Read what you posted a couple hours ago - Then read this - 586A6D7C7B6A7D426E7D640F0 wrote:
Obviously after I read that first post, I learned that The huge number added to disability has nothing at all to do with causalities in Iraq or Afghanistan. Then of course I learned that they were sent in there by Bush (the dude you hope to invite into your bed) and it all made sense ... Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by Dane Allen on 04/16/13 at 22:45:05 4C4D56515E4B573F0 wrote:
OK to get to 47% we need to get 150 million+. So far we have a good double counted 60 million. That would be 23% ... hey that's the amount I paid in taxes, as opposed to RMoney who paid 13% ... what a coincidence. Cool. Srinath. [/quote] Wow, you paid $6 million in taxes?? Well, almost 6 million, 13% doubled is 26% and you say you paid 23% and make a big fuss about it so if you paid anything less than $5 million in taxes then you have nothing to complain about. You should be thanking Romney for his generous refusal to leave the country and take his rightfully earned money with him.. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by houstonbofh on 04/17/13 at 00:11:54 70716A6D62776B030 wrote:
Read that sentence again - OR get your grammar lessons - I wrote [i]So lets see, 4.3 million on welfare, 5.1 mill unemployed, 8.7 mill disabled, and most of these likely included in the 47 million on SNAP. [/quote] Not in this thread you didn't You go read it again. You NEVER said anything more that 4.3 million until I asked how that included the 47 million on welfare. This is another reason the shrinks would take your guns away. Delusional behavior is an automatic fail. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by Midnightrider on 04/17/13 at 00:54:49 I don't see why Romney should care if 100% were on welfare. Everyone knows his money is in the Caymans and Swiss banks. Anyone that refuses to show you their tax records isn't paying but a small percentage of what they owe. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by srinath on 04/17/13 at 04:10:41 193C33381C313138335D0 wrote:
I paid 23% in taxes - opposed to RMoney's 13% - how many times to tell you that ? And RMoney doesn't get to leave and take his $ with him, he still needs to pay US income tax. You can live outside the US, but still need to pay US income taxes - he he look it up. Once again he's offering to break the rules. Probably he'll manipulate his cronies in govt to let him soon enough. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by srinath on 04/17/13 at 05:28:53 5D5A4046415A5B575A535D350 wrote:
Read that sentence again - OR get your grammar lessons - I wrote [i]So lets see, 4.3 million on welfare, 5.1 mill unemployed, 8.7 mill disabled, and most of these likely included in the 47 million on SNAP. [/quote] Not in this thread you didn't You go read it again. You NEVER said anything more that 4.3 million until I asked how that included the 47 million on welfare. This is another reason the shrinks would take your guns away. Delusional behavior is an automatic fail.[/quote] Wrong again Houstonbofh - this below is my post from a few hours before your post about 47 mill - 61607B7C73667A120 wrote:
Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by Paraquat on 04/17/13 at 09:26:33 686972757A6F731B0 wrote:
I doubt I'm a republican or a communist. I do blame Bush. I disliked Bush a great deal. The very notion of the Patriot Act is insane. I wish someone went back and reviewed everything Bush did to straighten this ship we're all on and restore the Constitution. Obama promised he would. I won't lie - I got excited hearing that in his campaign promises (Still voted independent). ...and then he didn't. So if you can understand where I am coming from: I didn't like Bush, I don't like Obama. Obama has (had) a chance to fix it and didn't. I dislike liars. --Steve |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by Dane Allen on 04/17/13 at 10:09:40 0E3F2C3F2F2B3F2A5E0 wrote:
I doubt I'm a republican or a communist. I do blame Bush. I disliked Bush a great deal. The very notion of the Patriot Act is insane. I wish someone went back and reviewed everything Bush did to straighten this ship we're all on and restore the Constitution. Obama promised he would. I won't lie - I got excited hearing that in his campaign promises (Still voted independent). ...and then he didn't. So if you can understand where I am coming from: I didn't like Bush, I don't like Obama. Obama has (had) a chance to fix it and didn't. I dislike liars. --Steve[/quote] If you look at Obama's exposure to Marxism and his advocacy for such then it kinda makes sense that Obama broke most of his promises. Liberals are out to replace the Constitution with something more flexible so as to control us better. Marxism isn't a conspiracy theory, it is a real lfe ideology/religion that worships the State over the individual. It's the source of crazy ideas like $100 taxes on individual bullets and outlawing caves and bats. Obama never intended to protect our rights. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by srinath on 04/17/13 at 14:08:24 Parquat: No one liked Obama. No one believed Obama will keep his promises. No one voted for Obama. Everyone voted against Mitt "I paid 13% in taxes and hide behind the fact that it was 3 million dollars and confuse people into thinking I paid at the rate they pay their taxes" RMoney. Obama is a dirt bag cos he did't do what he said he would. RMoney is a far bigger and stinkier Dirtbag cos the fear was he would do what he said. We are under No illusion on the librull side. We just picked the smaller dirtbag. You are comparing the current president to a hypothetical Ideal. You compare him to RMoney like we did on Nov 6th. RMoney and Ryan lost both MA and WI. The people that knew them best, soundly rejected them. And try this - Only John Frémont in 1856 lost his home state by a larger margin than Romney out of the 100 major party presidential nominees on the ballot since the formation of the Democratic Party in 1828 That is not a state voting for someone, its voting against the person they know better. AKA anyone but him. You can beat this anyway you like ... I'll circle back to the 13% RMoney paid in taxes. Most of the rest paying over 20% are feeling like they are being robbed. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by houstonbofh on 04/17/13 at 20:55:32 686972757A6F731B0 wrote:
Read that sentence again - OR get your grammar lessons - I wrote [i]So lets see, 4.3 million on welfare, 5.1 mill unemployed, 8.7 mill disabled, and most of these likely included in the 47 million on SNAP. [/quote] Not in this thread you didn't You go read it again. You NEVER said anything more that 4.3 million until I asked how that included the 47 million on welfare. This is another reason the shrinks would take your guns away. Delusional behavior is an automatic fail.[/quote] Wrong again Houstonbofh - this below is my post from a few hours before your post about 47 mill -[/quote] And several hours after your post were you said food stamps were included. But you are right I missed the post. The fact that; It was after what I was replying to... Was burred in several other posts... And directly contradicts what you said earlier... ...may have someone confused me. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by Dane Allen on 04/17/13 at 21:30:26 1312090E011408600 wrote:
People voted identity politics, to get free stuff and to push the costs of socialism onto someone else. Plain and simple. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by Dane Allen on 04/17/13 at 21:33:26 Quote:
He paid $3 million in taxes, how much did you pay in dollars? why do you keep dodging the truth of the matter? You keep throwing this apple vs oranges comparison and then run away. How much did you pay IN DOLLARS?? |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by srinath on 04/18/13 at 05:35:49 484F5553544F4E424F4648200 wrote:
Read that sentence again - OR get your grammar lessons - I wrote So lets see, 4.3 million on welfare, 5.1 mill unemployed, 8.7 mill disabled, and most of these likely included in the 47 million on SNAP. [/quote] Not in this thread you didn't You go read it again. You NEVER said anything more that 4.3 million until I asked how that included the 47 million on welfare. This is another reason the shrinks would take your guns away. Delusional behavior is an automatic fail.[/quote] Wrong again Houstonbofh - this below is my post from a few hours before your post about 47 mill -[/quote] And several hours after your post were you said food stamps were included. But you are right I missed the post. The fact that; It was after what I was replying to... Was burred in several other posts... And directly contradicts what you said earlier... ...may have someone confused me.[/quote] OK fine - and I didn't quite contradict it, I just didn't talk about it before that. [i]People voted identity politics, to get free stuff and to push the costs of socialism onto someone else. Plain and simple. Maybe, but that was cos they didn't want to be identified with Mitt "the dirt bag" RMoney ... He paid $3 million in taxes, how much did you pay in dollars? why do you keep dodging the truth of the matter? You keep throwing this apple vs oranges comparison and then run away. How much did you pay IN DOLLARS?? None of your business ... Its 23%, that's all you need to know, and I'll bet its more than yours - and if Mitt "I've hidden my $$$ in cayman Islands, and on the rest I pay 13% in tax, and offer to pay no tax at all by leaving the country even though the tax code says I have to" RMoney were to have paid 23% before he manipulated the tax codes with his cronies of big business and Bush, I'm sure He'd have more than 47% voting for him. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by Dane Allen on 04/18/13 at 08:51:58 5C5D46414E5B472F0 wrote:
I paid 23% in taxes - opposed to RMoney's 13% - how many times to tell you that ? Cool. Srinath.[/quote] Good News!!! You can stop telling me that because it doesn't mean anything. $3 million dollars is a tangible amount. 23% of a mystery is nothing so I have to assume you paid nothing. I am very thankful to Romney for his $3 million in taxes and his $2 million in charity. 23% of nothing is zero. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by srinath on 04/18/13 at 09:21:48 03262922062B2B2229470 wrote:
Yes more judging belittling and blaming ... yea I paid $0 ... <---THIS IS SARCASM FOR THE MORON WHO CANT UNDERSTAND. Lets try this again ... RMoney paid 13%. Obama paid 20.5%. Go cry somewhere else, RMoney is a tax cheat - if not a tax dodger, he's got his cronies to manipulate the tax code in his favor. He and you can hide behind the 3 million all he wants. The rest of the country sees him as a tax cheat. His ignorance may be all that is left to debate. His offer to leave the country with his $$$ is telling, as is your repeating of it. He can leave, he still owes US taxes. Now you can also offer his ignorance of the tax code as his cover for dodging taxes. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by Dane Allen on 04/18/13 at 09:33:26 6C6D76717E6B771F0 wrote:
Yes more judging belittling and blaming ... yea I paid $0 ... Lets try this again ... RMoney paid 13%. Obama paid 20.5%. Go cry somewhere else, RMoney is a tax cheat - if not a tax dodger, he's got his cronies to manipulate the tax code in his favor. He and you can hide behind the 3 million all he wants. The rest of the country sees him as a tax cheat. His ignorance may be all that is left to debate. His offer to leave the country with his $$$ is telling, as is your repeating of it. He can leave, he still owes US taxes. Now you can also offer his ignorance of the tax code as his cover for dodging taxes. Cool. Srinath.[/quote] Yes, more deflecting, redirecting, skirting and deception. I am looking through your precious Goole for evidence (remember how you insinuated that if it isn't in google then it must be untrue) and I don't see where a President Romney or Senator Romney or Representative Romney altered the U.S. tax code in his favor. I don't know what cronies you speak of but I suspect you are comparing apples to oranges again to create a point out of nothing. Maybe you don't know the difference between a wage and a dividend or the difference between a job and a mutual fund. I am not going to explain it to you but you should know that the only person you are fooling is yourself because we all know these definitions and you look foolish. Who is dodging taxes? We all know he paid $3 million, you paid nothing by your own admission. I don't know if you are telling the truth about his offering to leave the country with his money but if that is his choice then I say go for it. Better to stop giving you a free ride so you can turn around and stab him in that back. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by srinath on 04/18/13 at 11:39:09 Dude you said RMoney offered to leave the country with his $$$. And Bush altered the tax codes - look it up. That was when everything became capital gains ... plus you get to deduct losing stock completely and it gets taken off your taxes. You're the only one even among the republicommunists here that dont know this. 2003. Under President Bush’s leadership, Congress passed a further package of pro-growth tax cuts in 2003. The centerpiece of the law was a cut in the top capital gains rate from 20 to 15 percent and a cut in the top individual rate on dividends from 35 to 15 percent. Tax experts had long discussed the distortionary effects of the excessive taxation of corporate equity in the U.S. tax code. Under the 2003 law, the capital gains and dividend cuts were set to expire after 2008. From http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/tax-policy-under-president-bush And they are libertarian - so they are for lower taxes - Like I said you're the only one who doesn't know this. And people who pay 23% are not paying 0 in taxes no matter what. One more of those missing math lessons I guess. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by Dane Allen on 04/18/13 at 12:11:30 2322393E312438500 wrote:
Do you ever get tired of getting your ass handed to you? Quote:
Thank you for proving that your statements referring to Romney having his cronies lower his taxes for him are false. The problem is you have distorted reality so much that no one knows what you are talking about. Had I known your fool speak was referring to 2003 I could have destroyed your argument completely a few pages ago. Now that I know you are calling a dining table a kangaroo I am able to better understand how far into the nut forest you have travelled. Quote:
As it should be, nothing wrong here. Just curious, what should the tax rate for negative earnings be? Quote:
As it should be, nothing wrong here. I really like how the entire Congress in 2003 was a crony of Mitt Romney. Where was Mitt Romney in 2003, gonna have to go look that up for a good laugh. Quote:
Yay!!! I'm for lower taxes and smaller government too!! :) Quote:
Last time I checked anything multiplied by zero is zero. Your magic percentages must follow different rules. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by srinath on 04/18/13 at 16:55:58 00252A21052828212A440 wrote:
Ooooo dane dane dane, lying again I see ... once again - RMoney can leave the country ... he still needs to pay his taxes. Its irrelevant whether he's generously refusing to leave or generously leaving ... either way, US tax code requires he pay US taxes. He needs to pay taxes even on income generated outside the US. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by srinath on 04/18/13 at 17:13:06 1A3F303B1F32323B305E0 wrote:
Do you ever get tired of getting your ass handed to you? Quote:
Thank you for proving that your statements referring to Romney having his cronies lower his taxes for him are false. The problem is you have distorted reality so much that no one knows what you are talking about. Had I known your fool speak was referring to 2003 I could have destroyed your argument completely a few pages ago. Now that I know you are calling a dining table a kangaroo I am able to better understand how far into the nut forest you have travelled. Quote:
As it should be, nothing wrong here. Just curious, what should the tax rate for negative earnings be? Quote:
As it should be, nothing wrong here. I really like how the entire Congress in 2003 was a crony of Mitt Romney. Where was Mitt Romney in 2003, gonna have to go look that up for a good laugh. Quote:
Yay!!! I'm for lower taxes and smaller government too!! :) Quote:
Last time I checked anything multiplied by zero is zero. Your magic percentages must follow different rules.[/quote] 2003 congress = republican. AKA cronies of Koch brothers and RMoney. RMoney has no capital gains, he was a corporate raider. He can claim anything and everything is capital gains ... dont make it so. Now lets see what a true capital gains tax payer looks like - Warren Buffet. As an example, Buffett said he paid an effective tax rate of 17.4 percent, while people who worked in his office made much less but paid higher effective tax rates of between 33 percent and 41 percent, averaging 36 percent. Here is the source - http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/aug/18/warren-buffett/warren-buffett-says-super-rich-pay-lower-taxes-oth/ And that is not surprisingly more in percentage like 25% and about 333 X more in number that Mitt "I'm a dirt bag who doesn't even pay full taxes on my declared US income and manage to pay under the 15% capital gains rate cos my cronies rigged the tax system for me" Rmoney. He's a dirt bag, we all saw it ... we voted against it. Simple. We'd have voted for Homer simpson if he ran against RMoney. Yea you're for lower taxes and smaller govt especially if it means stiffing the old, the retired, the injured, and the sick off their disability, medicare, and SS cos there is abuse by some ... probably republicans who think the system is to be bled cos there is so much "govt waste". My taxes are none of your Business ... Warren buffet paid 25% more taxes as a percentage and 333 X - 1+billion - I mean talk about Mitt "the twitt" RMoney claiming to be a job creator and demanding to pay less than the 13% he does pay now, when the mother of all Job creators was @ 17.4%. Like I said, tax cheating dirt bag for president ... didn't Rhyme. So the republicommunists went with Mitt RMoney for president. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by Dane Allen on 04/18/13 at 17:19:00 45445F5857425E360 wrote:
Ooooo dane dane dane, lying again I see ... once again - RMoney can leave the country ... he still needs to pay his taxes. Its irrelevant whether he's generously refusing to leave or generously leaving ... either way, US tax code requires he pay US taxes. He needs to pay taxes even on income generated outside the US. Cool. Srinath.[/quote] ;D ;D ;D ;D Oh, I see what you did there, in an effort to dodge and deflect the issues you focused on a passing remark I made two pages and two days ago and then you intentionally miss the point by making emphasis that Romney still pay taxes if he leaves the country when the point was you should be glad he is here creating jobs and helping the economy. You are one tricky dude and you just defined the strawman argument for yourself. The strawman here is the argument that Romney needs to pay his taxes, which no one ever argued against. The operative part of my comment is the "rightfully earned" phrase which you have conveniently ignored to generate a desperate comeback. The argument still is he paid $3 million in taxes and you are hypocritically attacking him for paying soo much after you seem to have paid soo little. Oh, and you hate Mormons, you have made that clear time and again. Looks like you ARE starting to get tired of getting your ass handed to you....now you're probably wishing you were a little nicer to me when I joined the forum. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by srinath on 04/18/13 at 18:02:05 1F3A353E1A37373E355B0 wrote:
RMoney is a corporate raider who was killing companies and selling off pieces and pocketing the difference. So the dirt bag aint creatin nothing and paying 13% in taxes on millions he has termed capital gains. 1F3A353E1A37373E355B0 wrote:
Yea strawman is one more thing you dont know ... but I'll skip that ... RMoney can move to timbuktu but he still needs to pay US taxes on his Rightfully earned money no matter in what currency ... he earns 100 tortillas ... the tax code says 13 tortillas in his case cos he's cheated are due to them. He can move to antartica, and its still 13 tortillas. 1F3A353E1A37373E355B0 wrote:
My taxes are none of your business. I am a private citizen, I dont need to say much more than 23% ... and it appears to be 70% higher than RMoney's 13% ... and more interestingly Warren buffet seems to have paid 25% more than RMoney. Like I said dirt bag who wanted to be president ... he picked a Vice Dirtbag and they got 47% ... You can keep saying anything you want about handing my tushy to you or me or whatever ... that dont make it so. You are full of lies and worthless arguments. Obviously that's what republicommunism is all about. Lower taxes for the rich while the rest are going to be bled dry because there is a few people also likely republicommunists cos the biggest welfare recipients are also republican states - engaging in welfare fraud or other abuse. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by houstonbofh on 04/18/13 at 20:44:58 6E6F74737C69751D0 wrote:
Let me have some help to explain what "evil corporate raiders" do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62kxPyNZF3Q It ain't that hard. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by srinath on 04/18/13 at 21:19:12 090E1412150E0F030E0709610 wrote:
Let me have some help to explain what "evil corporate raiders" do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62kxPyNZF3Q It ain't that hard.[/quote] Nice ... you see that whole movie ? or just that clip. Cos I have watched that whole movie. It does not run the way you think ... Thank god you didn't show me "pretty woman" Anyway, RMoney killed several - none of those ended the way Other people's Money does. If RMoney saved a company instead of killing it, it was in good shape that it would have survived itself. RMoney was a true vulture, and the ones he saved were the ones he was the most vulture like. There is a long list. The method was this. Find a union factory owned by a crony. Make it look bad so the employees think its going under. Buy it. Send all the work to china. Send all the union jobs to the shredder. Repeat. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by Dane Allen on 04/18/13 at 21:46:58 20213A3D32273B530 wrote:
Let me have some help to explain what "evil corporate raiders" do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62kxPyNZF3Q It ain't that hard.[/quote] Nice ... you see that whole movie ? or just that clip. Cos I have watched that whole movie. It does not run the way you think ... Thank god you didn't show me "pretty woman" Anyway, RMoney killed several - none of those ended the way Other people's Money does. If RMoney saved a company instead of killing it, it was in good shape that it would have survived itself. RMoney was a true vulture, and the ones he saved were the ones he was the most vulture like. There is a long list. The method was this. Find a union factory owned by a crony. Make it look bad so the employees think its going under. Buy it. Send all the work to china. Send all the union jobs to the shredder. Repeat. Cool. Srinath.[/quote] Way to tell it like it isn't, your fantasy world is slipping out again. There isn't anything here to discuss, just wild accusations and paraoid delusions. You have left the realm of rational thought and are just making up stories to deflect from any sort of answers. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by srinath on 04/19/13 at 13:26:17 1B3E313A1E33333A315F0 wrote:
Let me have some help to explain what "evil corporate raiders" do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62kxPyNZF3Q It ain't that hard.[/quote] Nice ... you see that whole movie ? or just that clip. Cos I have watched that whole movie. It does not run the way you think ... Thank god you didn't show me "pretty woman" Anyway, RMoney killed several - none of those ended the way Other people's Money does. If RMoney saved a company instead of killing it, it was in good shape that it would have survived itself. RMoney was a true vulture, and the ones he saved were the ones he was the most vulture like. There is a long list. The method was this. Find a union factory owned by a crony. Make it look bad so the employees think its going under. Buy it. Send all the work to china. Send all the union jobs to the shredder. Repeat. Cool. Srinath.[/quote] Way to tell it like it isn't, your fantasy world is slipping out again. There isn't anything here to discuss, just wild accusations and paraoid delusions. You have left the realm of rational thought and are just making up stories to deflect from any sort of answers.[/quote] What fantasy ... and what delusion ? RMoney himself said this is what Bain Capital did. Its one more of your mis conceptions like "Rmoney generously wanting to leave the country and take his $$$ with him ... " errmmm no ... you can leave generously, or stay generously, you still pay US taxes ... oh jeez I forgot about that ... Look up Bain capital's record. This is exactly what they do. The companies being saved are just the ones that were so good they need not have been sold to bain in the first place. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by Dane Allen on 04/19/13 at 14:16:23 Quote:
;D ;D ;D You tell me I don't know what a strawman argument is and then you go right on to create a strawman argument. I am not falling for it!! No one ever said Romney doesn't have to pay taxes, you are creating this out of nothing so that you have at least one correct argument. You are arguing with yourself about an issue you made up yourself by intentially misunderstanding and misrepresenting another post. Romney paid $3 million in taxes or tortillas or whatever you think is currency in your make-believe world. He cheated nothing but you can always call the IRS and give them your proof and then we both can watch him get arrested. I will tell you what, if you can blow the whistle, send in your evidence and get a government case brought against Romney I will retract everything I said about Romney paying $3 million in taxes. Deal? And don't give me any crap about the system being rigged or he bought everyone in Washington because that is complete lie and a cop out. Quote:
Well, except for the fact that you come on here and rail against Romney for paying $3 million and not stepping up and proving why you paid too much. You won't even tell us how much you paid but claim it is 70% more than Romney, which comes to $5.1 million. You then deflect, evade and run away. Quote:
See, unproven claims and wild accusations. It is no wonder why you complain that you couldn't win a debate in 6 months!! (See what I did there, using what you wrote and then turning it around except this has some truth to it.) Quote:
A dirtbag who paid $3 million in taxes and $2 million to charity while you paid what excatly? You can keep dodging and evading and running away after you lob these wild accusations but I am going to keep calling you on it until you either stop lying or come up with proof. Time to put up or shut up!! Come on, I dare you to prove he cheated on his taxes!!! |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by srinath on 04/19/13 at 14:39:55 Oh no he didn't cheat on his taxes ... he just got his cronies to "adjust it" so he pays less than people who make less than him, and people who made more than him ... AKA a dirtbag who manipulated congress to lower just his and his cronies taxes. The tax code has been manipulated so he can classify anything and everything as capital gains ... which is 15% ... and he managed 13% ... Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by houstonbofh on 04/19/13 at 20:37:59 66677C7B74617D150 wrote:
Let me have some help to explain what "evil corporate raiders" do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62kxPyNZF3Q It ain't that hard.[/quote] Nice ... you see that whole movie ? or just that clip. Cos I have watched that whole movie. It does not run the way you think ...[/quote] Yes, and if you ignore the last 10 minutes of fantasy, it is a very good movie. "Hungry? Since when do you have to be hungry to have a donut?" -- Danny Devito |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by Midnightrider on 04/19/13 at 21:41:56 Guys its all over. Obama won. I don't think Romney should not have been allowed to run hiding money overseas but I've heard Obama has an overseas stash too. Don't know if its true or not. Obama wants my guns while he's creating an American Gestapo. If Dr Carson and Rand Paul run in 2016 I think things will change for the better. Conn. already had an assault weapons ban, everyone knows Obama's motive was to take our guns and that would be one hell of a mess. I'm afraid he's gonna try again. He's already using the Boston bombs to increase and give Homeland Security (American Gestapo) more power. Some people are crazy, sh!t is gonna happen and when it does shoot the bastards. That's all we can do unless we become a Marxist State and then the Gestapo will mow us down in the streets. Those of you who have been following my post the last few years know I leaned to the left. The main reason I voted for the left is I'm not a racist but now the liberals are trying to take my guns and my freedom. Big mistake. Sri children are the most precious innocent things. on earth. If you're in the 23% tax bracket get you a permit and a nice reliable gun and protect your family. You've got the money. Its up to you, the police cant do it, they're highly understaffed. I'll be glad to help you. My wife has a sniper badge on her uniform and she loves to teach good people how to shoot. You're brown skinned, that's already three strikes against you. You have mentioned your bad neighborhood, don't wait for something to happen you'll regret the rest of your life. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by srinath on 04/20/13 at 05:46:58 3D3A2026213A3B373A333D550 wrote:
It wasn't too realistic, but it is true that an first gen airbag uses stainless steel. Would have been better if they said steel braided brake lines huh ... cos those use stainless wire. Not like micro fiber SS. Midnight: I am armed, however I also stay above the fray and the rough exterior tells people I am armed far more than I really am. Besides I am the worlds motorcycle mechanic, and it includes wanna be motorcycle riders ... which includes all the bling bling brothers ... Its one of those why shoot this guy, he dont do nothing and he repair our sheiete, even though we dont have no sheite to get him to repair. Obama has book income and presidents income. I dont think he has much more of a stash. Chicago is a dirty dirty city with lots of political mud slinging, not just party vs party, its ethnic group vs ethnic group too ... if he has managed to stay clean out of there I'd give him the benefit of doubt. Though I have maintained he's just a smaller bag of dirt compared to RMoney. Ron Paul - 8 years too late. Joe Arpaio - maybe the right man for 16. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by Midnightrider on 04/20/13 at 09:51:25 If you're armed youb still wanna pay $100 for a bullet. Gets expensive if you go practice. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by srinath on 04/20/13 at 10:06:58 082C212B2C222D31372C212037450 wrote:
I dont practice in the open ... I practice in a range. I have not in many years though. Now you do know I said gun range bullets are different right ? Yea yea I know Dane said blah blah blah ... but you do know you cant buy drinks @ a bar and walk out with them right. Yea similar idea. And there are fewer gun ranges, should be easier to properly monitor. We have to make some changes. Leave people with guns to defend ourselves but stop the sprayers. I cant think of a better way, without running up a few trillion per year $$ bill or getting into a serious violation of the second. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by Dane Allen on 04/21/13 at 10:00:29 3C3D26212E3B274F0 wrote:
Ok, prove it. Otherwise this is just spew. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by srinath on 04/21/13 at 10:15:53 7C59565D7954545D56380 wrote:
Ok, prove it. Otherwise this is just spew.[/quote] Prove what Dane ? That he paid 13% ? That his cronies (republicommunists who also rubber stamped the war based on lies) adjusted the taxes the rich would pay cos they were "Job creators" ... That it was a whopping 333 times lower than the job creator Warren Buffet paid ... not to mention 25 % lower ... Those were the points I made - oh yea its 13% cos he's funneled 10% to his home charity ... so its lower than 15% capital gains ... d-uh ... Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by Midnightrider on 04/21/13 at 13:25:18 4C4D56515E4B573F0 wrote:
I dont practice in the open ... I practice in a range. I have not in many years though. Now you do know I said gun range bullets are different right ? Yea yea I know Dane said blah blah blah ... but you do know you cant buy drinks @ a bar and walk out with them right. Yea similar idea. And there are fewer gun ranges, should be easier to properly monitor. We have to make some changes. Leave people with guns to defend ourselves but stop the sprayers. I cant think of a better way, without running up a few trillion per year $$ bill or getting into a serious violation of the second. Cool. Srinath. [/quote] You've talked about the neighborhood you live in, I feel a lot better knowing you're armed. The police cant protect us, its up to us to protect ourselves and family. As far as sprayers go we need to go the mental health route. Conn has an assault weapons ban, what good was it. These people need help or need to be locked up, a law on a piece of paper isn't going to protect anyone or make things any better. We cant enforce the laws we have now. Go to the range and practice when you get a chance. Our children and grandchildren are the most precious, innocent beings in the world. COOL! Midnightrider |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by srinath on 04/21/13 at 16:25:19 Midnight: My previous neighbor had a break in - guess what they stole ? laptop and guns. This was suspected to be an inside job - never proven, that guy was lets just say ... "single and swinging" to sound like a square. My current neighbor had a break in in their previous home. Guess what they stole ? Some low grade jewelry and guns. That was definitely an inside job - like friends of the nephew types. I am nearly sure no one will break in to my house to steal crap, cos the valubles are in the driveway and weigh 500 lb and have their own wheels ... and they are usually in just about poor enough looks to not bother. When I have good body work, it will be slapped on just before its sold. It will sit with mismatched/missing junk till then. I have landed on "crusty old geezer" quite by accident and have been since I was say 32-33. 10 years, and generally I am regarded as useful but not important. No one wants to kill me, and everyone wants me to fix their sheite ... even if they dont got sheite to fix. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by Dane Allen on 04/22/13 at 09:39:56 6362797E716478100 wrote:
Ok, prove it. Otherwise this is just spew.[/quote] Prove what Dane ? That he paid 13% ? That his cronies (republicommunists who also rubber stamped the war based on lies) adjusted the taxes the rich would pay cos they were "Job creators" ... That it was a whopping 333 times lower than the job creator Warren Buffet paid ... not to mention 25 % lower ... Those were the points I made - oh yea its 13% cos he's funneled 10% to his home charity ... so its lower than 15% capital gains ... d-uh ... Cool. Srinath.[/quote] Yep, that's what I thought, just spew. Well, all you have managed to do over severals days, threads and posts is prove you are envious of Ronmey's money, make hypocritical arguments and hate Mormons. You still haven't explained why Romney owes more than $3 million in taxes except to state he definitely didn't cheat on his taxes. So, it is someone else's turn to dismantle your views as there is nothing left for me to break down. Dodge, evade and deflect. Can't use logic and reason with someone whose views are creaed with neither logic or reason and it is pointless to argue religion with someone, which this has turned out to be. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by srinath on 04/22/13 at 19:15:06 Hey I said RMoney paid 13% on his taxes and it was 3 million didn't I. And the impressive part is that that fool thought we americans would be impressed by that ... Nothing to dismantle here ... you are suffering under a lot of delusions ... I did nothing other than to state the facts ... Like Rmoney paid 13% - 3 million in tax. Cos he's a job creator. By contrast Warren buffet paid 17.4% - 25% more than RMoney, and 1 billion - 333 times job creator RMoney. And speaking of jealous - I dragged in Warren Buffet out of nowhere. Wont that make me jealous of Warren Buffet ... I dunno being jealous of RMoney is like very chintzy ... like being jealous of a dirt bag ... Ooooo I wish I could have Warren Buffet's $$$ but pay RMoney's taxes. Yea ... that'd be cool. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by Dane Allen on 04/23/13 at 10:52:36 5352494E415448200 wrote:
That is a part of what you said Quote:
And here you go off into the nut forest with your aluminum foil hat. Did you actually read Romney's mind or was there some sort of hypnotism involved? Quote:
How can they be my delusions when I am just countering your wild accusations? I am just responding to the trash you throw out there, none of these delusions are mine, they are all yours. Refer to secret Romney mind reading above. Quote:
You are aware that, like, a hundred other people read these posts and know you did the exact opposite, right? You know everyeone sees what you write on here, right? The "Republicans are communists", "CO2 gune can kill a crackhead", "Romney's cronies changed the tax code for him and not Warren Buffet". You have to know that everyone sees what you write and that you have done everything BUT state the facts. Quote:
Do you not even have the simplest grasp of the tax code at all? Did it ever occur to you that Buffet earned more taxable income than Romney? Why so envious of what Romney earns? Did you ever say how much you paid? Quote:
Are you ever going to get tot he point of why Romney is a dirt bag for paying all his taxes and not cheating on said taxes and not earning as much money as Buffet? Quote:
Now that is tax evasion!! Isn't it interesting that the most ignorant are also the most vocal in some cases, and in this case? |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by srinath on 04/23/13 at 20:22:28 Warren Buffet paid 17.4% and 1 billion in taxes. RMoney paid 13% and 3 million in taxes. Why the disparity ? Because RMoney declared all of his income as capital gains. Warren Buffet did not. He paid 35% - top rate on several million and 15% on the rest average was 17.4% . And I dont think its possible without lying to say all my income is long term capital gains - the only kind you can get 15% on. Better yet - I get it that the mormon church is a charity. However paying 10 million to 1 charity that does only propogation of itself is hardly charitable. Its self serving charity at its best. So I gave a paltry 7% to charity in 12. This is how it was split. My self serving charity is autism society of NC. My county chapter. I have donated maybe 20 bucks in cash to it. I dont even write that off. This to me is my self serving charity. The biggest donation to this charity however is time, effort, planning, paper work, leg work, office work, technology work all executed by my wife. None of it is written off. The only thing that is written off is mileage on personal vehicle. The rest of my charity is salvation army, good will, SVDP, Habitat etc ... these are all items donated, labelled correctly etc etc. Some of this I bought at these same places, fixed, decided I dont want it and returned working items and write off the purchase price I paid with the thing broken. I bought a broken cd player for 2.99. I have it working and I actually bought it cos it matched mine, so I can use the same remote, and I had been wanting to pull mine cos it had read errors ... and I had to pull the thing 1/2 way apart to clean the lens .. anyway long story short, I have 2 working ones now. In a few days I will drop it off with a sticker saying working and take 3.21 (tax) off in 2013 taxes. That is all I write off in charity. Donating a ton of $ to 1 self serving charity does not impress any one, especially when its "in the rules to do so". Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by Krowl on 04/26/13 at 12:24:55 I think Srinath needs to get a job. Sounds like one bitter liberal! |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by WebsterMark on 04/26/13 at 13:07:41 Warren Buffet paid 17.4% and 1 billion in taxes. 1 billion? Say what?.... |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by Dane Allen on 04/26/13 at 16:30:45 6D6C77707F6A761E0 wrote:
Who gives a crap??? Two guys alone paid over a billion in taxes, that alone tells how broken the government is. These guys should never have to pay taxes again. Hey there's an idea!!! Once you pay a total of $1 million in taxes in your lifetime you never have to pay any more!!! That woudl motivate the hell out of me. :) |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by srinath on 04/28/13 at 09:59:10 0F2A252E0A27272E254B0 wrote:
Who gives a crap??? Two guys alone paid over a billion in taxes, that alone tells how broken the government is. These guys should never have to pay taxes again. Hey there's an idea!!! Once you pay a total of $1 million in taxes in your lifetime you never have to pay any more!!! That woudl motivate the hell out of me. :)[/quote] Oh yea the old ... cut it for you, and you and you and give me that $$$ cos you're govt waste. Brilliant. The beauty is ... the ones who are getting the hand out's are all in heavily red states like SC ... however the republicans are smart enough to know that ... the cuts all come out of middle class, and they are disguised as fraud prevention, and they all go to the rich ... their funders. Classic playing the 2 ends against the middle. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by WebsterMark on 04/28/13 at 20:29:25 the ones who are getting the hand out's are all in heavily red states like SC at some point, you've got to stop repeating lies and cite at least semi-truthful 'facts' to support your rants.... |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by srinath on 04/29/13 at 08:03:52 467473626574635C70637A110 wrote:
Oh my god, as I remember it this is the third time one of you republicommunists has asked for this in the last 10-12 months. I remember back in august 2012 serowbot posted this - then I have atleast 2 X - http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-08-18/politics/30039546_1_blue-states-federal-taxes-red-states This is there in a 100 places, I tried to find one you would find "not librull media" ... This is the text inside - in case you dont feel like looking @ the link - Take a look at the difference between federal spending on any given state and the federal taxes received from that state. We measure the difference as a dollar amount: Federal Spending per Dollar of Federal Taxes. A figure of $1.00 means that particular state received as much as it paid in to the federal government. Anything over a dollar means the state received more than it paid; anything less than $1.00 means the state paid more in taxes than it received in services. The higher the figure, the more a given state is a welfare queen. Of the twenty worst states, 16 are either Republican dominated or conservative states. Let's go through the top twenty. New Mexico: $2.03 Mississippi: $2.02 Alaska: $1.84 Louisiana: $1.78 West Virginia: $1.76 North Dakota: $1.68 Alabama: $1.66 South Dakota: $1.53 Kentucky: $1.51 Virginia: $1.51 Montana: $1.47 Hawaii: $1.44 Maine: $1.41 Arkansas: $1.41 Oklahoma: $1.36 South Carolina: $1.35 Missouri: $1.32 Maryland: $1.30 Tennessee: $1.27 Idaho: $1.21 Does anyone else notice the overwhelming presence of northern "rugged individualist" states, like Alaska, the Dakotas and Montana, along with most of the South? Why it's almost like there's a pattern here or something. Where can we find liberal bastions California, New York, and Massachusetts? California is 43rd, getting back only $0.78 for every dollar it sends to Washington. New York is 42nd, and one penny better off, at $0.79 per dollar. Massachusetts is 40th, receiving $0.82 for every dollar it sends to DC. Look here is a bright spot for you ... RMoney's state is sending out more $$$ than its taking in. OK happy. Its a blue state ... but it is RMoney's blue state. Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by Dane Allen on 04/29/13 at 08:15:30 40415A5D52475B330 wrote:
Who gives a crap??? Two guys alone paid over a billion in taxes, that alone tells how broken the government is. These guys should never have to pay taxes again. Hey there's an idea!!! Once you pay a total of $1 million in taxes in your lifetime you never have to pay any more!!! That woudl motivate the hell out of me. :)[/quote][/quote] Quote:
This is a total head scratcher!!! Where did you get any of this from what has been written above? Are you reponding to a different post or something? Quote:
Maybe the reason is people are tired of living off of handouts and look to Republicans to help free up opportunity that is crushed under socialism. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by srinath on 04/29/13 at 08:29:42 OK Lets go over this 1 point again slowly ... just for the hard of comprehension. You said Two guys alone paid over a billion in taxes, that alone tells how broken the government is. My reply: OK so 1 guy paid over a billion in taxes. Not 2. Rmoney paid 3 million, Warren Buffet paid over a billion just 1 paid a billion+. Anyway that aside - One guy paid a billion, and that tells you the system is broken ? And then you said - These guys should never have to pay taxes again. My reply: Oh yea cut out taxes for the super rich cos the govt is broke ? So there I got ... cut this and that cos that is broken govt and give it to me (or not take taxes form me). Duh ... Cool. Srinath. |
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Title: Re: How many people are on welfare, hint Its not 4 Post by srinath on 04/29/13 at 08:47:29 1C39363D1934343D36580 wrote:
Oh wow ... how red tinted are your glasses ... RMoney was interrupted by Nikky Haley (SC governor and TEA party princess) when RMoney was railing about cutting down on welfare. The Red states on welfare have for generations if not centuries been red. They have a deeply ingrained welfare culture. They put their welfare supporting republicans into power. NC - which not as bad as SC has a recent governor Pat McCrory - ex charlotte mayor. His first move was to cut unemployment to 60% of its original amount and to 25% of its original duration - and very smartly he didn't touch welfare. Republicans are all about keeping people on welfare. The biggest shift out of welfare happened under Clinton. The rest of the Bush years saw more and more welfare That is the republicommunists target demographic. They are also about getting the rich and businesses supporting them - which is why they target the middle class and labor unions. SC has been republican for over a 100 years. RMoney and McCain won the state by over 20 points and I think they called their election @ 6pm on both occasions. Welfare queens = republican states. No question. TEA baggers are dressing around the edges and biting into the middle class. Cool. Srinath. |
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