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Message started by Midnightrider on 04/23/13 at 19:32:22

Title: Internet Tax
Post by Midnightrider on 04/23/13 at 19:32:22

"Majority leader Harry Reid (D-NV) and 73 fellow Senators advanced a bill yesterday that would require consumers to pay sales tax on ALL Internet purchases. The Marketplace Fairness Act forces online retailers to collect state and local taxes on every sale and then require them to send those taxes to the states where the shopper lives.

Some Senators are "selling" this legislation as a way to "level the playing field" for big business, while recouping lost tax revenues for states. But it's simply another tax that forces Americans to pay more for what they purchase online. It also imposes complicated regulations and unfairly burdens businesses by mandating that they be responsible for making separate tax payments to some 9,600 state and local governments." So they're gonna level the playing field for big business. I guess the CEO's and upper management are going broke. Can anyone imagine the paperwork involved paying taxes to the state and local municipalities. My county and state has local sales tax. Everytime I bought something off the internet that's 2 payments the vendor would have to send out. If I go downtown to shop I have to pay to park and pay state and local taxes. Just another uncalled for tax on the working middle class.

Title: Re: Internet Tax
Post by srinath on 04/23/13 at 20:24:29

Only if your retailer has over 1 million in yearly sales.

I wonder if it applies to chinese sellers on ebay.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Internet Tax
Post by raydawg on 04/23/13 at 20:28:04

Odd....I thought in was the republicans that were in BIG business pockets :-?

Title: Re: Internet Tax
Post by srinath on 04/23/13 at 20:33:44

24372F32372131560 wrote:

Odd....I thought in was the republicans that were in BIG business pockets :-?

There is big business on both sides of this issue.
Amazon is setting up distribution centers in several states - including one big one in SC - near charlotte, so there they have the local republicommunists lathered up, but there is democraps in other states too ... but on the opposite side there is ebay, and they are fighting this with mainly CA democraps.

There is R and D on both sides, and Big business on both sides.

I think the winner will be China and people who buy chinese junk on ebay/digi-key. OK I do sometimes. but electronics even the US ones are re packaged chinese junk.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Internet Tax
Post by oldNslow on 04/24/13 at 06:23:11

Quote:

Can anyone imagine the paperwork involved paying taxes to the state and local municipalities. My county and state has local sales tax

Don't know about other places, but here in NY if the online seller also has a brick and mortar store anywhere in NY, they already collect state and local sales tax on online sales from anyone in NY. Been that way for quite some time.

I don't really know how much of a headache this is for the retailers but the ones in NY seem to have it figured out. Besides; since when has the government ever given a crap how complicated and confusing its regulations are.

I don't much like having to pay the tax - who would- but I think this was inevitable. >:(

Title: Re: Internet Tax
Post by Pine on 04/24/13 at 08:12:42

47797874667A7B150 wrote:

Quote:

Can anyone imagine the paperwork involved paying taxes to the state and local municipalities. My county and state has local sales tax

pretty much my thoughts.

Yes, in MS if the shop has an in-state presence they collect sales tax. I am against the tax .. but for reasons that are mostly non-main stream. To be sure I dont want to pay MORE tax, but that too is a minor detail. The core reason I am against it is that this sets the Federal government up to basically replace state tax entitys.. no its wont be there with this bill.. but it sets the stage. Already in THIS bill, the states that want to participate MUST change thier tax laws to conform to this federal bill. its volunteer just like paying taxes is volunteer.

Why have a state anymore?? lets all just be one big unhappy state.. cause everyone knows that nothing is different from locale to locale. ( sarcasm) Verfy much against this.

Title: Re: Internet Tax
Post by Midnightrider on 04/24/13 at 09:51:05

Another way to keep records of everything we own.

Title: Re: Internet Tax
Post by ZAR on 04/24/13 at 21:17:51

11353832353B34282E3538392E5C0 wrote:

Another way to keep records of everything we own.

hitting real close to the truth Midnight! That's the prime reason I believe in the barter system!

Title: Re: Internet Tax
Post by Starlifter on 04/25/13 at 16:59:02

Let me tell you how it will be,
There’s one for you, nineteen for me,
‘Cause I’m the Taxman,
Yeah, I’m the Taxman.
Should five per cent appear too small,
Be thankful I don’t take it all.
‘Cause I’m the Taxman,
Yeah, I’m the Taxman.

(If you drive a car ), I’ll tax the street,
(If you try to sit ), I’ll tax your seat,
(If you get too cold ), I’ll tax the heat,
(If you take a walk ), I’ll tax your feet.
Taxman.

‘Cause I’m the Taxman,
Yeah, I’m the Taxman.
Don’t ask me what I want it for
If you don’t want to pay some more.
Cause I’m the Taxman,
Yeah, I’m the Taxman.

Now my advice for those who die,
Declare the pennies on your eyes,
‘Cause I’m the Taxman,
Yeah, I’m the Taxman.
And you’re working for no-one but me,
(Taxman). ;)

Title: Re: Internet Tax
Post by Midnightrider on 04/27/13 at 14:29:26

In 1992 the Supreme Court ruled a business cannot charge you sales tax unless it has a retail outlet in the state you reside in. Guess whats gonna happen if the internet tax is passed, the Feds are gonna get in on it to. They'll have to get their grubby paws on it just like they do with the gas, cigarette, alchohol taxes etc.

Title: Re: Internet Tax
Post by Dane Allen on 04/29/13 at 13:11:11

486C616B6C626D71776C616077050 wrote:

Oh, absolutely, this is a gateway tax, they are running out of taxes to assess.

Title: Re: Internet Tax
Post by Trippah on 04/29/13 at 16:33:52

As long as we spend, we need to tax: and as long as we tax, we will spend.
It is the simple truth. ;D

Title: Re: Internet Tax
Post by srinath on 04/30/13 at 18:20:17

I would probably object being a hardcore internet shopper ... however the truth is lots of smaller districts, counties, cities have been stiffed by agencies like MERS - http://thearizonainvestor.com/mers-sued-under-rico-laws/ ...

Essentially - Real estate transfer fees have been bypassed by listing MERS as the owner of a property and you as the assignee or some such trick. Now this is for something definitely sitting as brick and mortar in the location ... nothing interstate about this ...
Of course they have charged you the fees ... pocketed it and changed the assignee to you in MERS.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Internet Tax
Post by Midnightrider on 05/03/13 at 00:30:28

I see where Paul (lets screw everybody I can) Ryan jumped in today and he's for it of course. I buy off the internet, one reason is as of the last few years I've gotten better customer service than I have from the local yocals. There's more competition, returns have become a lot easier, 0 interest financing, etc. Its not fair for a state to get sales tax that had absolutely nothing to do with my purchase. Ryan will be the POS that gets the Feds in on it, just wait and see.

Title: Re: Internet Tax
Post by Paraquat on 05/03/13 at 06:14:39

You're absolutely correct, MidnightRider.
My biggest pet peeve with parts is going into, say Autozone.

I need XXXX.
We don't have it, I can order it?
I can order it. I came here because I want it now.

But, if I can save money, get better service, and have it shipped to my door then why even leave the house... why burn the gas? Couple internet purchases with paypal and I just saved myself a trip to the ATM at the same time.

People are practically bending over backwards. I purchased something a while ago and I wanted more detailed pictures... and I got them in less than an hour. A service I couldn't get at Autozone.

--Steve

Title: Re: Internet Tax
Post by Midnightrider on 05/03/13 at 21:40:47

I buy just about everything off the internet, my RC Hobby supplies and my music equipment. My wife orders her craft supplies and things for our grandbabies and 100lbs of shelled peanuts each month for the critters around the house. Our front porch stays full of squirrels and racoons and flying squirrels at night.I buy so much the UPS man has become one of my best fiends LOL. He always takes his beaks here, we'll smoke a cigarette or eat lunch. He has a big farm he lets me target practice on, he's so used to stopping here he's stopped a couple of times by mistake with no package for us LOL.