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Message started by Midnightrider on 04/30/13 at 12:02:22

Title: Analysis Finds Monsanto’s GE Corn High In Toxins
Post by Midnightrider on 04/30/13 at 12:02:22

Analysis Finds Monsanto’s GE Corn Nutritionally Inferior and High in Toxins

A report given to MomsAcrossAmerica4 by an employee of De Dell Seed Company (Canada's only non-GMO corn seed company) offers a stunning picture of the nutritional differences between genetically engineered (GE) and non-GE corn. Clearly, the former is NOT equivalent to the latter, which is the very premise by which genetically engineered crops were approved in the first place.

Here’s a small sampling of the nutritional differences found in this 2012 nutritional analysis:

Calcium: GMO corn = 14 ppm / Non-GMO corn = 6,130 ppm (437 times more)
Magnesium: GMO corn = 2 ppm / Non-GMO corn = 113 ppm (56 times more)
Manganese: GMO corn = 2 ppm / Non-GMO corn = 14 ppm (7 times more)
GMO corn was also found to contain 13 ppm of glyphosate, compared to zero in non-GMO corn. This is quite significant and well worth remembering.

The Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPA) “safe” level for glyphosate in American water supplies is 0.7 ppm. In Europe, the maximum allowable level in water is 0.2 ppm. Organ damage in animals has occurred at levels as low as 0.1 ppm... At 13 ppm, GMO corn contains more than 18 times the “safe” level of glyphosate set by the EPA.

This is truly disturbing when you consider the fact that in countries like Argentina, glyphosate is blamed for the dramatic increase in devastating birth defects as well as cancer. Sterility and miscarriages are also increasing. This may be due to its similarity to DDT, which is well-known to cause reproductive problems, among other things.

Another health hazard associated with glyphosate is its effect on gut bacteria. Not only does it promote the growth of more virulent pathogens, it also kills off beneficial bacteria that might keep such pathogens in check—both in the soil, and in the gut of animals or humans that ingest the contaminated crop.

It's important to understand that the glyphosate actually becomes systemic throughout the plant, so it cannot be washed off. It's inside the plant. And once you eat it, it ends up in your gut where it can wreak total havoc with your health, considering the fact that 80 percent of your immune system resides there and is dependent on a healthy ratio of good and bad bacteria.

An additional disturbing piece of information is that GMO corn contained extremely high levels of formaldehyde. According to Dr. Huber, at least one study found that 0.97 ppm of ingested formaldehyde was toxic to animals. GMO corn contains a staggering 200 times that amount! Perhaps it’s no wonder that animals, when given a choice, avoid genetically engineered feed. Now we have to eat the sh!t because Obama put one of Monsanto's board members on his cabinet.

Title: Re: Analysis Finds Monsanto’s GE Corn High In Toxi
Post by Dane Allen on 04/30/13 at 13:29:55

Well, you had me until DDT, which was falsly villified for contributing to overpopulation by preventing Malaria. This may still be accurate but the false DDT reference makes me suspicious. I have always worried about GM crops and have actively avoided them to the point of avoiding corn for my family altogether. Will have to see where this goes....

Title: Re: Analysis Finds Monsanto’s GE Corn High In Toxi
Post by Midnightrider on 04/30/13 at 13:41:29

Read it again. glyphosate is blamed for the dramatic increase in devastating birth defects as well as cancer. Sterility and miscarriages are also increasing. This may be due to its SIMILARITY to DDT, which is well-known to cause reproductive problems, among other things

Title: Re: Analysis Finds Monsanto’s GE Corn High In Toxi
Post by Midnightrider on 04/30/13 at 14:19:57

Glyphosate's Toxicity

It should come as no surprise that sickness is becoming the normal state of health. Chronic diseases, once fairly rare, are now how we live and die. Diseases once seen almost exclusively in the elderly are now being seen in children. Autoimmune and neurological disorders are becoming common.

There are many potentially causative and contributory factors, but glyphosate has generally gotten a pass because it was considered "generally recognized as safe"—GRAS—for its apparently low toxicity. Indeed, short term studies appeared to confirm its innocence. However, long term studies of its effects on health weren't done until recently. The most insidious factor in glyphosate's toxicity has been the slow expression of harmful effects. Because of it, studies demonstrating glyphosate's insidious action inside the body—like those Samsel & Seneff reviewed—have been systematically ignored.

So glyphosate is now the most popular herbicide on earth, and that factor is driving the extent of harm it produces. It isn't just the fact of its toxicity that's at issue, it's the sheer volume of usage.

Samsel & Seneff's research is blowing away the smokescreen around the harmful effects of this monstrous product. They have provided specifics for how glyphosate can destroy health and produce the modern plague of chronic diseases.

Glyphosate: A Trajectory of Human Misery

The proven and probable effects of glyphosate are manifold. The meteoric rise in chronic diseases and metabolic disorders has occurred during the same time period that glyphosate was introduced, and has followed a trajectory much like that of the herbicide's massive increase in use.

At some point, officials in power must take their heads out of the sand and address the evidence that ties glyphosate to the epidemic of chronic diseases. Samsel and Seneff have now collected, sorted, and logically extrapolated on evidence from studies, and they leave little question that there must be an association between the herbicide and the phenomenon of mass ill health.

Samsel and Seneff do not oversell their findings. They clarify that glyphosate is not the only toxin in today's world. Nonetheless, its known effects on some of the human body's most basic functions—disruption of gut bacteria, impairment of sulphate transport, and interference with CYP enzyme activity—indicate that, at the very least, glyphosate must have a synergistic effect with other environmental toxins.

It is, therefore, imperative that—at the very least—a moratorium be declared on the use of glyphosate until and unless it can be demonstrated to be safe. Surely it's long past time to apply the precautionary principle to glyphosate and its partner in synergy, Roundup. The toll in human suffering, not to mention costs to society and economic losses, cannot be allowed to continue.

Surely civilization cannot be maintained when the average person is irrevocably ill. This trajectory of human misery must come to an end.

Title: Re: Analysis Finds Monsanto’s GE Corn High In Toxi
Post by Dane Allen on 04/30/13 at 14:53:11

44606D67606E617D7B606D6C7B090 wrote:

Yeah, I know but all that stuff about DDT wasn't true and they all knew it so while I think this glyphosate stuff is probably pretty bad and I avoid GM crops as much as I can (unless I'm tricked due to deceptive packaging) making a comparison to DDT hurts the credibility. DDT is believed by non-scientists who have heard all the propaganda against DDT to cause reproductive problems but, in fact, is a dubious claim with no scientific proof. If something has come up regarding DDT then I am willing to change my view in light of actual science, of course.

But I am with you on the GM crops most likely being very, very bad.

Title: Re: Analysis Finds Monsanto’s GE Corn High In Toxi
Post by Starlifter on 04/30/13 at 19:44:11

Monsanto is a criminal enterprise.

Title: Re: Analysis Finds Monsanto’s GE Corn High In Toxi
Post by WD on 04/30/13 at 21:27:35

Dane, you also need to be avoiding commercial soy products. Most soy stocks grown in North America have been compromised by cross pollinating with GMO varieties that are supposed to be for INDUSTRIAL use only (like seat cushion foam in late model Ford cars). Similar problems are common in canola and emerging in rice. GMO soy and corn are supposed to be used for paint resins, plastics and fuel alcohols/solids only, but they've made their way into the food chain.

You want some DDT? I can probably scare up a few cans of cattle dust from the 60s for you. Trade you straight across for chlordane, the ONLY effective ant poison ever made (so of course, it was banned), active soil life up to 50 years.

I can't grow flint/hard corn here, it will be cross contaminated. I have one wind free pocket where I can still grow enough sweet corn for family use, but my farm stand customers are $hit out of luck.

Title: Re: Analysis Finds Monsanto’s GE Corn High In Toxi
Post by Midnightrider on 04/30/13 at 22:15:00

Star is being kind to Monsanto. One company has the power to poison and genetically change the whole world and our government is encouraging them to do it. I knew when Obama put that POS from Monsanto on his cabinet it was all over with. When Monsanto started getting bad press in the 80's who other than our dear friend Romney was hired to try to improve their image. WD I still have half a gallon jug of chlordane left. Mosquitoes were bad in my neighborhood and about once a week the local government would send a truck and fog the neighborhood with DDT. I would jump on my bicycle and follow behind the truck, was like riding in the clouds. Webster will tell you that's whats wrong with me today. Could actually be the truth, I have heart disease, Lupus and diabetes. I wish I had the power to destroy Monsanto but its probably too late. They're any which way the wind blows which is basically all over the planet. My kids and grandkids, what have we done to them?

Title: Re: Analysis Finds Monsanto’s GE Corn High In Toxi
Post by WD on 04/30/13 at 22:50:42

It's been that way since the dawn of big agribusiness. When I think back to all the Diaznon, Malathion, chlordane, other insect dusts, herbicides, etc I've handled over the years... My doctor says I'm in great shape for someone in their 70s or 80s, I'm 40.

20/100 vision; deteriorating joints; degenerative disc disease; close to half deaf (okay with high ranges, voices and such forget it); hands at full relax look like I'm holding a set of motorcycle grips, fingers are not only rotating on their axes (is that the plural of axis?) but 2 on each hand go left, 2 go to the right, crossing each other... Constant pain, frequent crippling headaches... food sensitivities (soy, dairy and msg)... I actually sweat out discernible levels of metals...

Title: Re: Analysis Finds Monsanto’s GE Corn High In Toxi
Post by srinath on 05/01/13 at 10:10:25

And people are wondering why we are getting allergies to all sorts of of food ...
Yea that's your peanut has a gene from a shark in it, a gene from a horse and one from a cricket ...

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Analysis Finds Monsanto’s GE Corn High In Toxi
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/01/13 at 10:29:03

It is such a huge comfort to see so many so awake. I remember not so long ago I felt so alone in my claims.

Title: Re: Analysis Finds Monsanto’s GE Corn High In Toxi
Post by srinath on 05/01/13 at 11:34:01

7A656364797E4F7F4F77656922100 wrote:

It is such a huge comfort to see so many so awake. I remember not so long ago I felt so alone in my claims.

JOG you always had me against pharma and monsatan.
Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Analysis Finds Monsanto’s GE Corn High In Toxi
Post by Drifter on 05/01/13 at 14:11:57

And what can we do about it.....not a darn thing....big money rules!

Title: Re: Analysis Finds Monsanto’s GE Corn High In Toxi
Post by Steve H on 05/03/13 at 03:37:58

I keep wondering when Monsanto is going to get into the pharmaceuticals business. Then they'd have the perfect setup.

Produce the foods that make us sick and then produce the "medicines" that make us "better" when all we need is to consume real food.

Title: Re: Analysis Finds Monsanto’s GE Corn High In Toxi
Post by Dane Allen on 05/03/13 at 10:08:17

6D762F2C2D2A28271E0 wrote:

Title: Re: Analysis Finds Monsanto’s GE Corn High In Toxi
Post by srinath on 05/03/13 at 10:31:10

61444B40644949404B250 wrote:

[quote author=6D762F2C2D2A28271E0 link=1367348542/0#13 date=1367577478]I keep wondering when Monsanto is going to get into the pharmaceuticals business. Then they'd have the perfect setup.

Produce the foods that make us sick and then produce the "medicines" that make us "better" when all we need is to consume real food.

Title: Re: Analysis Finds Monsanto’s GE Corn High In Toxi
Post by WebsterMark on 05/03/13 at 17:54:22

A report given to MomsAcrossAmerica4 by an employee of De Dell Seed Company (Canada's only non-GMO corn seed company) offers a stunning picture of the nutritional differences between genetically engineered (GE) and non-GE corn.

Pardon me but isn’t De Dell Seed Company a competitor to Monsanto’s seed? Do you have any suspicions at all about the validity of their ‘report’?

Title: Re: Analysis Finds Monsanto’s GE Corn High In Toxi
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/05/13 at 11:45:38

Wouldnt take any skewed science to beat monsanto.

Title: Re: Analysis Finds Monsanto’s GE Corn High In Toxi
Post by Dane Allen on 05/06/13 at 13:50:39

11100B0C03160A620 wrote:

[quote author=61444B40644949404B250 link=1367348542/0#14 date=1367600897][quote author=6D762F2C2D2A28271E0 link=1367348542/0#13 date=1367577478]I keep wondering when Monsanto is going to get into the pharmaceuticals business. Then they'd have the perfect setup.

Produce the foods that make us sick and then produce the "medicines" that make us "better" when all we need is to consume real food.

Title: Re: Analysis Finds Monsanto’s GE Corn High In Toxi
Post by srinath on 05/06/13 at 18:49:42

75505F54705D5D545F310 wrote:

[quote author=11100B0C03160A620 link=1367348542/15#15 date=1367602270][quote author=61444B40644949404B250 link=1367348542/0#14 date=1367600897][quote author=6D762F2C2D2A28271E0 link=1367348542/0#13 date=1367577478]I keep wondering when Monsanto is going to get into the pharmaceuticals business. Then they'd have the perfect setup.

Produce the foods that make us sick and then produce the "medicines" that make us "better" when all we need is to consume real food.

What if the "medicine" is only for those who are on the Marxist's good side? Kinda like a loyalty ration, show fealty to the Liberals and you get your daily allotment of food poison neutralizer. Otherwise... :(

That would be a great way for Socialists to keep people in line.[/quote]

This thread was going fine till you scrucked it up.
Cool.
Srinath.[/quote]

Uh oh, a little too colse to home, is it? I'm not into conspiracy and all that but I wouldn't put it past some enterprising person or group to do something like this. Wanna feed your family?? Sign this loyalty pledge and give this a light sprinkle on your bread. Oh, and don't forget to report back on what your neighbors are up to. It's been done in the past in other ways.[/quote]

Its wasn't close to home ... Monsatan turned into a monster under Bush's watch ... I just meant it was free of you calling someone a socialist and spouting some BS theory while ignoring the republican communists ideals in propogating Monsatan ... I just pointed out that up till that point the thread was just about Monsatan ...

I guess that's too much to ask.

Cool.
Srinath.

Title: Re: Analysis Finds Monsanto’s GE Corn High In Toxi
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/07/13 at 09:25:33

Monsatan was ready to take that step. Bush was in office. Wouldna mattered if it was a Dem,, there would have been no difference in what the corporation was given.