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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Politics, Religion (Tall Table) >> what is coming? /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1405336481 Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 07/14/14 at 04:14:41 |
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Title: what is coming? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/14/14 at 04:14:41 Mmmkay guys, it's been circling the drain for a long time.Now,in a time of great debt,a world increasingly shunning the dollar,we see a surge of people who will be burdening the expanding welfare state and spreading disease,creating a Tsunami of ruin in our society. I see all this as part of a plan. Most don't,but How and Why don't change the events.What's happening is happening,and the effects Will be what they will be. Isn't it just strange how,no matter what the options,they seem to always make the worst call? When does it stop looking like stupidity and start looking like treason? I believe Clinton KNEW EXACTLY what NAFTA would do. Bush did his Job for the Globalist creeps,too. And now,it's Bammy Time. Can't touch Dat. |
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Title: Re: what is coming? Post by Paraquat on 07/14/14 at 06:15:24 I wish radical change would come and fix it or someone would throw a lit rag in the pile. Either way I just want something to happen. We've been on the tipping point too long. --Steve |
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Title: Re: what is coming? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/14/14 at 06:42:25 And Should the masses awaken and Demand their country be restored, I am THINKING,not completely certain,but pretty sure that they have already built up means of dealing with that.I'm not saying that they would win,but that they would make life HELL. Grocery stores would stop being restocked,electric power would be knocked out by Homegrown Turrists,if ya catch my drift,blue helmets would be Restoring Order,coff coff. I think they tried Hard to create a race war with the Trayvon Martin thing. This Border Crisis thing is designed and will be effective in wrecking the already teetering economy AND sink what's left of the health care system. They know they can't just come for the guns,so they have to create a crisis that will justify declaring Martial Law. It's Gonna get UGLY in America.It's no longer a case of if, it's when. |
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Title: Re: what is coming? Post by Serowbot on 07/14/14 at 08:01:49 JOG,... if they tried to use Trayvon Martin, but failed... and are now trying to use the current immigrant influx,... to create an uprising, ...aren't you assisting them by getting up in arms over it?... After all,.. it's not their actions that will cause the problem, it's the reaction...(your theory, not mine).... If it were the action itself,... it would have already happened... They'd just do it... This theory makes you and your compadres tools of the Big Whatzit of OZ... :-?... |
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Title: Re: what is coming? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/14/14 at 08:28:05 Did I say I was going hunting?YEA,that's what they want,well,it's a scenario they've War Gamed out. Remember what JFK said. If you make peaceful revolution impossible,you make violent revolution inevitable. Nothing personal,Row,but your reality is based in wishful thinking.I lived there for quite a few years.Very conflicted,aware of SO MUCH that just didn't Add Up,but unable to find the information I needed to See past the facade the system created with school,the media, Remember,our ancestors were Trying to vote for good people. They used the tools they had to make those decisions.Think about that a while. How is it we got here? |
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Title: Re: what is coming? Post by Pine on 07/14/14 at 10:43:02 Interesting idea.. we have no proof its "planned" but surely they are aware of the effect. Already they seem very willing to run over local cities, and bring in whatever means needed to control "citizens". |
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Title: Re: what is coming? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/14/14 at 12:17:55 IDKwhat level of evidence you need to be able to see it's been planned,but my ability to chalk it up to a series of unfortunate mistakes has been overcome. Listen to Charlotte Iserbyt interviews. Read anything by G Edward Griffin,John Perkins,IIRC, Confessions of an Economic Hitman. Understand Agenda 21, read up on REX84,and Clowered and Piven. Also,the Bilderbergers,,remember,just a few years ago people were laughed at for suggesting that they even exist,now they exist ,they just don't DO anything.Yet,,David Rockefeller thanks the media for NOT reporting what they were allowed to be exposed to,which,he said,would have made it impossible to create the situation they have been wanting to create.I. certainly don't feel like a Situation beneficial to US has been created. No,we have no admission on the news,but you have Proof,in observed Reality. ADS for escorts for children in January? Make that NOT intenTional :-? |
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Title: Re: what is coming? Post by MnSpring on 07/14/14 at 13:54:22 5C65626978637E0C0 wrote:
That, is true in many cases, And it, works, because, the 'citizens', ALLOW it to happen. And Tug at their forelocks, bow down, and say: "yessum sir" Yet, in Many cases, NOT, reported by the Media, the, 'citizens', have stood on their own two hind legs, and said: "NO". |
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Title: Re: what is coming? Post by RatdogWillie on 07/14/14 at 16:22:29 What is Coming? Yet the truth is staring us in the face just as surely as the fact that the Emperor was wearing no clothes. https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/the_emperors_new_clothes_the_naked_truth_about_the_american_police_state |
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Title: Re: what is coming? Post by BalingWire on 07/14/14 at 17:01:38 Oh, to have been born 250 years ago, when you could had a choice like the "disgusted" fellow with "a good Estate" about whom Benjamin Franklin wrote.... [...] When an Indian Child has been brought up among us, taught our language and habituated to our Customs, yet if he goes to see his relations and make one Indian Ramble with them, there is no perswading him ever to return, and that this is not natural to them merely as Indians, but as men, is plain from this, that when white persons of either sex have been taken prisoners young by the Indians, and lived a while among them, tho’ ransomed by their Friends, and treated with all imaginable tenderness to prevail with them to stay among the English, yet in a Short time they become disgusted with our manner of life, and the care and pains that are necessary to support it, and take the first good Opportunity of escaping again into the Woods, from whence there is no reclaiming them. One instance I remember to have heard, where the person was brought home to possess a good Estate; but finding some care necessary to keep it together, he relinquished it to a younger Brother, reserving to himself nothing but a gun and a match-Coat, with which he took his way again to the Wilderness. ~Benjamin Franklin, letter to Peter Collinson, May 9, 1753 (http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/letter-to-peter-collinson/) Motorcycles give us some modicum of that feeling of that "Indian Ramble" of which Franklin wrote. http://https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0061/2552/products/13-024D2001_large.jpg |
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Title: Re: what is coming? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/14/14 at 18:18:39 0E3D2838333B0B35303035395C0 wrote:
Yup. And look up S1867 America is a war zone We don't live in the America we were raised BELIEVING we live in. Time to shed the blinders and open those eyes to Reality. As UnFun as that may be. |
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Title: Re: what is coming? Post by RatdogWillie on 07/14/14 at 19:01:33 5E7D7075727B4B756E791C0 wrote:
Great story! I know that I feel more comfortable when I am in the woods and away from civilization. |
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Title: Re: what is coming? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/14/14 at 20:15:35 How many are ready to rethink things now? |
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Title: Re: what is coming? Post by RatdogWillie on 07/14/14 at 20:35:33 617E787F62655464546C7E72390B0 wrote:
I am |
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Title: Re: what is coming? Post by WebsterMark on 07/15/14 at 04:35:20 Re-think what? That reality really isn't the result of random actions by persons or occasionally groups of people or nations working selfishly for their own best interest? |
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Title: Re: what is coming? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/15/14 at 07:38:40 Yeah,that. It's not that. It's not random. It's going One way and the hands pulling the strings are mostly working in unison now. We,our military,has been being used to destroy those who have not been willing to join.Look at the nations that have been invaded. Look at the common threads between them. They had sovereign money and wouldn't be part of the IMF World Bank scheme. Look at the things I posted earlier. They,together, make the case that all of these Failures and Unintended Consequences were planned. Our school s were deliberately destroyed. If YOU wanted to make something work better and you changed something and things got worse,wouldn't YOU have enough sense to put things back like they were?That's NOT what these who SAID they would make the school s better did. |
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Title: Re: what is coming? Post by BalingWire on 07/15/14 at 08:06:02 "When a place gets crowded enough to require ID's, social collapse is not far away. It is time to go elsewhere. The best thing about space travel is that it made it possible to go elsewhere." ~Robert Heinlein (1973) Time Enough for Love Gentlemen, there is no conspiracy. The loss of freedom that enrages your wild savage soul is a simple matter of demographics. The more crowded people get, the more laws are necessary and the more hierarchy intensifies. To live in a crowded Polis (city) requires the Polis (city-life enforcers) to enforce the Policy (city rules) of Politics (city business.) http://i57.tinypic.com/219vszr.jpg Anthropologists understand this phenomenon very well. "Civilization originates in conquest abroad[ch65279] and repression at home." ~Stanley Diamond (1981) In Search of the Primitive: A Critique of Civilization, p. 1 (first sentence of the book) The biologist who coined the term "rat race" understood well that crowding leads to a "behavioral sink." Plumbing the ‘Behavioral Sink’: Medical Historian Examines NIMH Experiments in Crowding. (2008) National Institute of Health Record. Vol. LX, No. 15. nihrecord.od.nih.gov/newsletters/2008/07_25_2008/story1.htm Thomas Jefferson understood the equation crowded rat race = loss of freedom well. "When they get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, they will become corrupt as in Europe." ~Thomas Jefferson, letter to Martha Jefferson Randolph, December 23, 1790 "I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health and the liberties of man." ~Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Benjamin Rush, September 23, 1800 The United States has been a bastion of freedom simply because of the New World being uncrowded. Being uncrowded, we rebellious Europeans in the New World could afford to take up some Indian ways; we were a little more wild and free than in city-ized Europe. http://i61.tinypic.com/15ev79t.jpg Even our Constitution, with its Bill of Rights, is much derived from European settlers observing Indian "free" ways. Iroquois Gayanashagowa: Influence on the United States Constitution http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Law_of_Peace#Influence_on_the_United_States_Constitution To "restore" the level of freedom that the US once knew would require restoring sparse population; that just isn't going to happen. And, just maybe, we'll find another sparsely populated frontier, out in space, as Robert Heinlein had hoped. "Peace is an extension of war by political means. Plenty of elbowroom is pleasanter--and much safer." ~Robert Heinlein http://i59.tinypic.com/34sgjdv.jpg Unfortunately, I doubt humanity's moving into the frontiers of space is going to happen. "The moon landing may be our Great Pyramid, an accomplishment never to be equaled." ~Alan Cromer, 1993 [url=http://dieoff.org/page125.htm]source[/url] But I'm not going to give up hope either. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ5sWfhkpE0[/media] |
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Title: Re: what is coming? Post by oldNslow on 07/15/14 at 08:55:33 Quote:
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Might not need space travel. We are quite capable of inadvertently restoring that sparse population without leaving earth. Happens to other species all the time, for all sorts of reasons. No reason to believe that humans are special. |
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Title: Re: what is coming? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/15/14 at 08:56:16 Too many events and too many people who were in positions to know otherwise prove a dark power has been working against,not just us,but the world. Again,go back to my post. Spend some time. Listen to Charlotte Iserbyt. Understand Agenda 21,all of what I said. You listen to the guy who wrote Confessions of an Economic Hitman and THEN say there's no conspiracy.Then look at the Bible and see what it says about a World Government. I've read your posts,you're no dummy. And I know that changing ones Concept of Reality is painful. When I finally found the information that proved my suspicion s right I was physically uncomfortable for a few days. My wife begged me. PLEASE don't change my reality,but I kept laying proof after proof at her feet,till she finally got it.It's NOT FUN,knowing what I know,but I'd rather know the truth than live in a make believe world Let me remind you all,I've been disabled for about 15 year,while you've been working and living a normal life,I've been spending time digging into things most just don't have time for. |
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Title: Re: what is coming? Post by Pine on 07/15/14 at 09:32:23 So I was a watching vid yesterday... and he "seemed" to explain what it is that I have not been able to wrap my head around. My ponder was" Why would Wall Street/bankers/politician" do what it is they are doing? What this person pointed out was: During the 2008 collapse: Banks (such as JP Morgan) were betting against thier own customers. They were betting against theri own advice, their own story. So too NOW are the same banks.. and the Federal Reserve and Central banks betting AGAINST their own policies. Central Banks are pumping more money and more debt into a system already exploding with dept and liquidity... they then use that money to buy .. GOLD. Banks and Central Banks are going long on GOLD while creating fiat to pay for it. His last statement gave me one of those "AHA moments": The FASTER and LARGER the bubble... the higher the profits for those betting against the bubble. I know its kinda an "captain obvious" thing.. but it caught me. |
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Title: Re: what is coming? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/15/14 at 10:42:18 And while they were selling it,they were betting against it,making money. How is that not fraud? And Who has gone to jail? And how many of those people who knew about it have committed suicide? Who hasn't been aware of the bankers dying? What does it take to make you think? Remember the recent spate of microbiologists who died? Think THAT was just coincidence? |
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Title: Re: what is coming? Post by raydawg on 07/15/14 at 10:49:01 I believe you guys are looking/focusing on the symptoms instead of the root cause..... I will give this observation/belief (by me) and explain how this action is only trying to mask the symptom without getting to its root cause. Let me use Gay marriage as an example. People are trying to use the courts, media, and economics as a way to achieve their own desires.... What really is that desire? Acceptance....... These are merely tools to achieve what they think will being them joy and happiness, filling a present void in their lives, affirming them and their beliefs. When in all reality it can't. You can't force a belief upon anyone else, its akin to trying to put a square peg in a round hole. War being the ultimate force in trying to do so. Now to be fair to the example of Gay folk, we ALL are guilty of this behavior to some degree, heck, its why we have regular "posters" to this tall table. Think of those Harley riders and their leathers giving free advertising to a product, etc, how they look upon on our lil' thumper with uh, objectivity ;D For our choice in ride does not affirm theirs, or theirs mine :-* The healing begins with each one of us accepting ourselves first. We must look at ourselves brutally honest, have the fortitude to change that which we don't like, instead of trying to get others to accept it for us.... That is real peace, internal, regardless of what surrounds you or circumstance. This lil' prayer says it all: God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; courage to change the things I can; and wisdom to know the difference. Finally, be the CHANGE you wish to see in the world :) |
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Title: Re: what is coming? Post by RatdogWillie on 07/15/14 at 10:52:07 7F6066617C7B4A7A4A72606C27150 wrote:
kind of like the Put Options placed on American and United airlines in the days just before 9/11/2001 |
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Title: Re: what is coming? Post by BalingWire on 07/15/14 at 10:53:58 Quote:
I concur. A couple books I've got upstairs go into detail how it might happen: • Jared Diamond (2011) Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed. Penguin Books. • William Catton (1980) Overshoot. University of Illinois Press. Quote:
Again, I agree. Your position is argued well in former Thatcher conservative John Gray's book Straw Dogs: Thoughts on Humans and Other Animals (2003.) Maybe George Carlin's view that the reason we humans are on the earth is to manufacture plastic is apropos: "The earth probably sees plastic as just another one of its children. Could be the only reason the earth allowed us to be spawned from it in the first place. It wanted plastic for itself. Didn’t know how to make it. Needed us. Could be the answer to our age-old philosophical question, 'Why are we here?' "Plastic, assholes.” [ch8213] George Carlin ;D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBRquiS1pis [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBRquiS1pis[/media] |
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Title: Re: what is coming? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/15/14 at 11:41:14 330015050E0636080D0D0804610 wrote:
kind of like the Put Options placed on American and United airlines in the days just before 9/11/2001 [/quote] Bush said following the money trail would not help find the bad guys... HA! |
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Title: Re: what is coming? Post by Trippah on 07/15/14 at 18:25:09 If you look up the fruit fly experiments of the 50-60's, overcrowding leads to many issues. Is it planned? I sorta doubt it, but segments of short sighted manipulation have to be present- we are humans, after all. Either global warming and the ensuing weather changes will knock a lot of us off, or a perhaps it will be a plague.......or perhaps all those ak's and AR's will get'er done. The US is, with this latest immigration "problem" is at that place we used to make fun Europe for...we actually don't have a lot of room (although a few mil could fit in Montana). ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: what is coming? Post by WebsterMark on 07/15/14 at 19:16:52 What the hell are you guys talking about? Overcrowding? Say what? |
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Title: Re: what is coming? Post by old_rider on 07/17/14 at 11:06:29 Can't figure the whole vid length of that snippet... The total routine he does says it all...the plastic part is neat tho... After the video plays...look for the title, the planet is fine the people are fu$($ed. |
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