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Title: What did i do to piss off the Yamaha gods!! Post by Pine on 07/19/14 at 18:06:23 SO I traded the Savage for this Vstar 1100 classic. I certainly dont want to start a flame war on my own bike but golly gee this is getting expensive. new battery new regulator ( which fried the old battery) .... and today bike wont start The starter spins up find but does not engage. I tried things froma "weak battery" persptive ( thoughts are the new batter was also getting fried before I replace the regulator) NOT the battery.. I tested with a known good battery... So I called my mechanic.. seesm the start design is from the Virago ( a lovely bike IMO) and is a known weak spot. REALLY I thought it was the regulator! he will be coming by on monday for diagnoses. drats... we wanted to ride today.. my wife and I both now have matching MUSTANG seats (rider/passenger/lumbar) and we have matching topcases and racks. PS: figging guys that came by to deliver my safe said my wifes bike looks great.. not much comment on mine.... REALLY???? :P |
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Title: Re: What did i do to piss off the Yamaha gods!! Post by Serowbot on 07/19/14 at 18:21:22 It's not the Yamaha gods,... it's the Savage gremlins avenging your treachery.... ;D... |
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Title: Re: What did i do to piss off the Yamaha gods!! Post by Steve H on 07/19/14 at 20:06:38 Virago starters are known to be a problem. I would have thought it would be fixed by considering they've been making the bike for 30 years. Guess it's just like our cam chain tensioner. Not enough of a problem to them to bother. Good luck with it. They have a rep for being bulletproof except for the starter. |
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Title: Re: What did i do to piss off the Yamaha gods!! Post by ToesNose on 07/20/14 at 04:55:30 Sorry to hear about the issues Pine, you'll get them straightened out soon enough. Just think of how much closer you'll be to your new scoot after doing all this work! |
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Title: Re: What did i do to piss off the Yamaha gods!! Post by BalingWire on 07/20/14 at 05:09:26 The Virago / V-Star line is cool. Obsolescence—be it in starters or chain tensioners or computer printers or light bulbs—is deliberately planned, and is the secret mechanism at the heart of our consumer society. Next time you change a light bulb, remember that the handblown bulb inside the fire station in Livermore, California has been burning continuously since 1901. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfbbF3oxf-E[/media] the light bulb conspiracy | planned obsolescence http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfbbF3oxf-E |
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Title: Re: What did i do to piss off the Yamaha gods!! Post by MnSpring on 07/20/14 at 10:06:46 Planned obsolesce, has been going on a long time. Many years ago, a fellow who worked in the Cities, for a large farm tractor company, when asked: ” what do you do”, His response was: “ I Machine, 40 years off the life of gears, before they are installed in new tractors” 30 years ago, I went to replace incandescent light bulbs, in a, TALL, storage shed. I was tired of having to do that every year. So, I, ’special’ ordered, 130V light bulbs. (They were like hens teeth finding and ordering) I put them in, and then had to replace, one or two, about every 10 years after that. Gee, look at the light bulb, it says, “120v”, when you are pumping a average of 124v into it. Buying small engines. If They are new, take them home, run for 5 min, with no load, then drop the oil, It will come out BLACK, with LOTS of Metallic Swirls, in the drain oil. Run again for 5 min, change oil again. You will do that for 3 to 5 times, Before, the oil, comes out, looking the same, as going in. And their are no, Metallic Swirls, in the drain oil pan. YET, every ’salesman’, will tell you: “This has oil in it, just run it for 50 hours, then change” Right now, a 800-850 Lumen, LED, light bulb, (about 60 watt), is, ’stated’, to last 20 years. When incandescents, are hard to find. When people, FINALY, understand, CFL’s, contain MERCURY, and NEED to be recycled, instead of just thrown in the garbage. And LED’s, are all over the place. Their lifespan, will be down, to a year or two. In 1960, my Dad, bought a, New, “Lawn Boy” lawn mower. it cost 300.00. Substantial money in 1960. But, I mowed lawn with that for 12 years. It, (as much as I wanted it to), Just Would Not Quit! Today, you can go to any, mart mart, and buy same brand for (+/-) 125.00 And you would be, darn lucky to get 5 years out of it. Then, ’throw it away’, cause NO one will know how, to fix it. Perhaps their is someone, who is, modifying/fixing that starter, like the LS650/S40 chain tighter. But, it only, ‘reportedly’, cost 7.00 to, ‘fix’, the flaw in the Pinto. 7.00, sounds cheep, until you multiply that by 100’s of thousands ! Go to a dealer, buy a new 2014 S40, Run it for 10,000 miles, and the tightener falls out, and grenades the gears. And/or the engine is not running as it should, because, (even though you have changed oil), their is no Zink in it. The petcock fails, and you have to spend 80 for a new one. All, designed, so you can buy a, ’new’ bike, in Less time, than you normally would, had you known about those things. A-yep, ‘Planned obsolesce’. and, ’throw away’. |
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Title: Re: What did i do to piss off the Yamaha gods!! Post by Steve H on 07/20/14 at 14:07:44 check this out. It's a video on how to fix the starter/starter clutch problems. http://viragotechforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=75&t=8366 |
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Title: Re: What did i do to piss off the Yamaha gods!! Post by Pine on 07/26/14 at 13:24:10 New starter (via ebay) came... two bolts and its swapped. Everything works.. except well me... still with the back issue. |
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Title: Re: What did i do to piss off the Yamaha gods!! Post by Steve H on 07/26/14 at 16:23:29 Good to hear you got it ready to ride. Now, quit messing around and get yourself ready to ride it. I hope your back gets better soon. Did you get the starter that's not supposed to have the gear problem? It's made by some company in TN. |
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Title: Re: What did i do to piss off the Yamaha gods!! Post by Pine on 07/27/14 at 09:44:03 7F643D3E3F383A350C0 wrote:
Do what?? I did not know there was such a critter... link? |
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Title: Re: What did i do to piss off the Yamaha gods!! Post by Steve H on 07/28/14 at 04:47:21 Sorry, I don't have a link. I just remember seeing it mentioned on a virago forum a while back. |
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Title: Re: What did i do to piss off the Yamaha gods!! Post by WD on 07/28/14 at 08:32:57 Read... http://www.starbikeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1946 http://www.international-star-riders.com/starcruiser/vol6-4/article6.php http://goldsmithwatchworks.com/rocks-vstar-custom/work-v-star.htm https://sites.google.com/site/vstar1100kb/home/repairs/starter-clutch And now you know why I do not own a Yammerscammer. 30+ years of horrible starters. |
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Title: Re: What did i do to piss off the Yamaha gods!! Post by Oldfeller on 07/28/14 at 08:48:11 For a couple of years I owned a Yamaha XV535 and I haunted the Yamaha boards for the older V bikes. Lots of frustrated people who could not get ignition parts for their old scooters, lots of bad starters/gearing, lots of bad charging systems, lots of black boxes that caused the old scoots to be broken up for the other parts. I personally had to re-wire fresh new neutral grounds to several components and I did have to replace the regulator/rectifier on the bike as well. Still had what I considered a "weak spark" at the plug ..... The engines never seem to wear out though .... ball bearings throughout the entire valve train and everywhere else too. |
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Title: Re: What did i do to piss off the Yamaha gods!! Post by verslagen1 on 07/28/14 at 09:44:44 My brother got a deal on a triumph triple... apparently they've copied japans lousy starters and he has to push start it. The one way starter clutch gear is buried in the center of the case as well as the starter. |
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Title: Re: What did i do to piss off the Yamaha gods!! Post by Serowbot on 07/28/14 at 10:26:32 4D5E4948575A5C5E550A3B0 wrote:
Yikes!... I never heard that before... :o... |
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Title: Re: What did i do to piss off the Yamaha gods!! Post by Steve H on 07/29/14 at 15:38:38 What happened to kick starters? They were nice in case the electric didn't work. |
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