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Message started by arteacher on 09/24/14 at 14:42:18

Title: Headlight mods.
Post by arteacher on 09/24/14 at 14:42:18

We all know that the stock headlight is no where near sufficient for night time driving, especially on country roads at 50 mph, where you over drive the low beam considerably. The high beam is nothing to write home about either, but it is strong enough to upset oncoming motorists, so you can't drive with it on all the time.
My intent for this thread is to
1) Find out how others have addressed this problem, and whether or not they are happy with their results.
2) The technical difficulties encountered and how solved. (ie- where do you put all the connectors and stuff that normally fits in the stock light)
3) Sources for said lights.

If the thread turns out to be a useful source of info, maybe it could be put in the tech section.

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by verslagen1 on 09/24/14 at 15:05:57

I've put a GS series 5 3/4" headlight on with a stock bulb and I'm satisfied with it's performance.  But that city and superslab riding and no where near as dark as rural riding.  The advantage is better focusing of available light.

Around here, HID light are frequently found on cars and bikes and are substantially brighter. 3x more light is what's advertised and yeah, it is.  But if you don't have the starter cutout relay it will dim out when you start and you'll need to shut it off to restart it.  I had the halogen high beam version so I just put it to high beam whenever I was going to start.

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by HondaLavis on 09/24/14 at 16:42:13

I saw today that cyclegear has a new LED headlight conversion kit.  It's on sale for $60, and I'm considering getting one.  I don't know if the connector will be compatible, but that's easily rectified.  It looks simple enough: find a place to mount the small box, then plug and play everything else.  with 2200-2400 lumens, 30,000 hr life, and and only consuming 24 watts it seems a bit enticing.

http://www.cyclegear.com/SPEEDMETAL-LED-Conversion-Kit

That cyclegear light looks nearly identical to lights by CREE.  Here is essentially the same kit, but it has 2 lights for a car.  If somebody wanted to go halfsies, you could save money splitting a kit between two people.  this kit is only 1800 lumens, though.

http://www.amazon.com/New-Brights-LED-Headlight-Conversion/dp/B00HFK2RAE

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51sU%2BXvbmmL.jpg

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by Dave on 09/25/14 at 04:40:19

Here is a link for a fellow that replaced the stock headlight with a Marauder headlight....supposedly a bolt on switch.
http://www.joe-freeman-personal.blogspot.com/2011/05/suzuki-s40.html

I am not sure about the quality or durability of the new stuff that places like Dime City sell.  Some have plastic lenses, reflectors and/or housings, and I fear they are cheaply made products.  Most OEM headlights are well built and hold up well, and Harley folks are always changing and ungrading their stuff....so you might find a nice affordable OEM take off on eBay or Craigslist.  Most likely the Harley stuff will require you to make an adapter to mount them to the Savage.  You can find some really nice headlights if you look around a bit.  For the search you will find the most selection if you put in something like "Suzuki Headlight", the open a listing and go to it and then click on the category "motorcycle parts" at the top of any listing, then type in "headlight", then click on the link "highest cost + shipping price", then go over and type in the highest and lowest prices you are interested in.  This way it does not restrict the light to a specific brand or model.  You can also type things like "-LED" if you want to eliminate that stuff from the search.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/97-Buell-M2-Cyclone-Headlight-Head-Light-B37-/170961396955?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27ce17e4db&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/suzuki-vs1400-intruder-1400-head-light-lamp-assembly-lens-s83-94-95-96-97-98-99-/370936744375?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item565d8d89b7&vxp=mtr

This fellow bought a Dime City headlight and is in the process of mounting it, and currently he is having trouble with the size of the fork mounts being too small.....it is worth watching this thread to see how it works out for him.
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1411097139

Just about any headlight bucket will accept the number of wires that the S40/LS650 has in the headlight bucket....it has very few connections inside the bucket.

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by Fishbulb on 09/25/14 at 08:37:38

Quoting myself from that linked thread:

I went with a fork mounted set up from DCC and I am very pleased. MOved to a 7" with a Hella light. I Went with the chrome larger british style bucket, well built. MUCH better light output, even without adding a relay.

I did get the medium duty brackets, and they are a bit long for my tastes. And, as others have mentioned, they required a little bending.

The shorter ones you are looking at will be better for bringing the light closer to the forks, but I think it will take a bit of a bend to get it to meet the bucket.

I Would look for some of the brackets that already have a 'step' built into them, so you don't have to bend them yourself.

Good luck!

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by stewmills on 09/25/14 at 18:13:43

So no one else has attempted the Marauder swap other than that guy?  I'd be happy getting a used Marauder and bolting it right on if it's in fact that simple and provided a little more light. I'm just not up to any significant mods requiring relays, rewiring, new brackets, etc. as it's not that critical.

No other Marauder success stories/comments/un-success stories?

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by Dave on 09/26/14 at 04:05:03

I would be concerned about the amount of room that is required for the backside of the light bulb.  It appears to stick back pretty far - and it requires a cooling fan be mounted on the backside.  I don't believe that is going to fit in most motorcycle headlight buckets....and where is the cooling air going to come from?

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by Kris01 on 09/26/14 at 18:22:16

Which Marauder are we talking about?  ...or does it matter?  What size is the headlight?

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by stewmills on 09/26/14 at 20:26:58


48716A703332030 wrote:
Which Marauder are we talking about?  ...or does it matter?  What size is the headlight?


not sure. the blog referenced shows a pic but doesn't specify the exact bike or headlight size. if anyone here can confirm that i would get one.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-sDr4830ch7Q/TLmOjPBVChI/AAAAAAAAABs/INqiDPEL4jE/s1600/IMG_0597.JPG

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by HondaLavis on 09/26/14 at 21:21:54

You'll have better luck finding it under the vs1400.  The pickings for the marauder 800 seem few and far between.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2002-Suzuki-Intruder-VS1400-VS-1400-S437-headlight-mounting-bucket-/231340966631?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35dcff02e7&vxp=mtr

In regards to the LED conversion, I'm heavily considering trying it next month.  I opened up the bucket tonight, and I think it will fit.  The bulb sits pretty deep into the reflector, and a lot of space is taken up by the big rubber gasket.  I'll give you the point about airflow, and I'll likely be "customizing" the back of my stock housing.  If the LED doesn't fit, then my custom vent holes will have to accommodate.  :D  My current stock light housing has a few cracks.  Hopefully it will hold up, but if it doesn't I'll probably get a vs1400 housing and try it all over again!

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by stewmills on 09/27/14 at 08:51:37

thanks, hondalavis

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by ToesNose on 09/27/14 at 13:54:39

Here's my HID build, I finally got around to importing all the pics that got cut from PhotoBucket-
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1372603847/0#6

The HID makes a HUGE difference, especially on country roads with no street lights.

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by GridMonkey on 09/28/14 at 00:50:30

Hey,

So i swapped my lamp out for this http://www.ebay.com/itm/261536384680?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

3 LEDs 6 watts each, 2 on for low 3rd comes on for high beam at 20$ it was worth testing. The same store has a 30 watt 3x10 version for a bit more, though the 12/18 claims 2000lm and the 20/30 claims only 1600lm  I have no idea what the actual output is, only that with the one i got (link'd) and the stock housing, it is a world of difference, anything the slightest bit reflective jumps out at you instantly because of the 6000k white temp and it seems like i can see much farther down the road. My girlfriends rebel was using the other lamp in the 2 pack we bought of sylvania silverstar xtravision (the 2nd cheapest tier) and if she is right next to me you cant even tell her light is on. I will be buying the 20/30 watt version and comparing the two at some point also will include stock pics with the same sylvania bulbs too. For now here are some pics in the parking garage where i work right after i put the lamp in. Of course i managed to flip the wires so my high/low switch was backwards... but otherwise i'm pretty happy with it.

Low Beam oncoming, low center light source. The other lights in the pic are mercury vapor lamps
http://https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54329179/low%20oncoming.jpg

Low Beam
http://https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54329179/low%20beam.jpg

High Beam
http://https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54329179/high%20beam.jpg

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by Kris01 on 09/28/14 at 08:37:49

That's a drastic improvement!

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by Dave on 09/28/14 at 18:07:57


516873692A2B1A0 wrote:
That's a drastic improvement!


Are you looking at his "low beam" and "high beam" photos and calling that a drastic improvement?  It is not a before and after.

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by Tocsik on 09/28/14 at 18:21:37

GridMonkey, how "plug 'n play" was that LED bulb you installed?

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by Kris01 on 09/28/14 at 19:22:07

Dave, his low beam is a drastic improvement over mine. The high beam output would be nice on low beam.

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by GridMonkey on 09/28/14 at 19:22:44

Well, It comes with "finished" wires, that is a metal sleeve on the ends of the wires that would push into a connector, you can see them on the ebay link i posted part way down, its not the standard 9003/h4 plug, BUT, i just pushed them into the back of the plug where the wire connects into it, easy peasy, did it to test the lamp but it was snug enough that everything has held together for about 250 miles so far. Just be sure to check high low switch works correctly BEFORE you put it all back together and not backwards like i did and then get confused on the test ride :)

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by Dave on 09/30/14 at 04:03:05

Keep us posted on how the LED light holds up.  The LED lights seem to make a lot of heat, and most kits have fans on the back to dissipate heat.  In an enclosed headlight bucket.....I am not sure how that is going to work out long term.

Does the rubber boot that seals the dirt out of the headlight fit properly on this LED system?  

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by GridMonkey on 09/30/14 at 14:35:38

This one does have a fan, and no the boot does not fit, totally forgot i should have mentioned that. Also the retaining wire/rod piece only half holds in place, i should get a pic of that, expect one tomorrow. I really had just popped it in to check it out, and it worked then i didn't ride for a few days and now i've just accepted its in there so i never did a full "here what i did" photo set like i planned.

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by GridMonkey on 10/03/14 at 14:48:11

So here are a few pics of the install.

Retainer clip had to be altered slightly as it wont clip both sides. Still seems secure.
http://https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54329179/retainer%20clip.jpg


As you see no rubber boot, wont fit.

The wiring was pretty easy, just pushed it into the back of the connector and taped them in place.

http://https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54329179/wiring.jpg


516A66766C6E050 wrote:
GridMonkey, how "plug 'n play" was that LED bulb you installed?

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by verslagen1 on 10/14/14 at 11:59:21

I just received a high and a low watt LED bulbs.

I was able to get both legs of the wire retainer in place.

And yes, they're instructions are incorrect, they state blue is high beam.
Which I interpret to mean passing light.

I just flattened out the bullet point to make a blade connector and used the stock connector.  I'll replace the bullet points with blade connectors at some point.  but might be easier just to cut off the stock connector and splice it.

The hi watt bulb appears to be brighter than the stock bulb (age unknown).

At some point I'll put it in the GS bucket as that has 2 holes in it for ventilation.

I bought the low watt bulb for the 71 Honda cb500 as the stock bulb is 35 watt and the generator is weaker than the savage.
installation will be easier as it has bullet connector already.

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by old_rider on 10/14/14 at 13:07:52

Wife has been complaining about how her's doesn't give out enough light, so I just ordered a couple.
Seems to be worth giving it a try, will keep tools available to change it back on the bike, just in case.

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by Albert Verdugo on 10/16/14 at 12:49:07

Hello every one, I was thinking more about adding a switch for the lights, and reduce the charge consumption while starting the bike. It has caused me some troubles at a time, mostly when start the bike in winter time :)

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by verslagen1 on 10/16/14 at 13:36:45


092B223F2B294A0 wrote:
Hello every one, I was thinking more about adding a switch for the lights, and reduce the charge consumption while starting the bike. It has caused me some troubles at a time, mostly when start the bike in winter time :)


Easiest way... put a lighted switch in the shell for the ground wire leading to the headlight.
There are probably better ways, but they get complicated.

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by GridMonkey on 10/16/14 at 17:02:42

Versy, by high watt / low watt bulb do you mean you got one of each of those LED type ones, the 12/18 and the 20/30 to compare them side by side?

EDIT: reread your post, saw yes you got one of each for 2 different bikes.

My g/f put her bike up for the winter so i don't have a chance to sit the two side by side for pictures, maybe i can swap lamps out and do it, otherwise it may have to wait till start of next season.

Didn't think of flattening the bullets, may have to do that. I still cant get over how much reflective signs pop, not that they move or anything, but even in the middle of the day i see road signs and things painted that way just jumping out at you, hopefully that's what my headlight looks like to traffic.

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by verslagen1 on 10/16/14 at 20:24:33

yep 1 of each.  not so much for comparison, but different uses.

the hi watt  :-?  is better than the stock bulb, maybe cause it was old.

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by strang on 10/18/14 at 04:39:00

I have tried fork mount and that was a pain as our forks are so wide you have to bend the cafe style brackets and in my opinion that looks a bit shite. Hard to find a nice looking headlight that is 7" plus to combat this.
I have also tried the bates style headlights and as part of vehicle testing (once a year here) they can be a pain as they don't stay perfectly vertical and that leaves you open to a fail on your test.  ::) Fork mounted can also have this issue in my experience.

The original Savage design is actually a good one, with its set and forget adjustment and I think it looks pretty cool. Only issue for me is the plastic bucket - mine has cracked already after 8k.

So to the point: this week I bought a Intruder 1400 to try that solution. The Intruder is the same size lens (5.5") but has a solid steel bucket. The Intruder headlight I ended up getting had stripped screws and is a bit rusty but luckily the Savage front lens unit will also fit in the Intruder bucket. Just. Tight fit and I might open the bucket holes a touch with a dremel, but it works.

Main issue is the bottom mounting holes. Intruder are a bit wider (40mm). I will probably weld a plate at the bottom and redrill.

Anyway a solution but not a perfect one. If I went this way again I would just try to find a Intruder bucket but I didn't know it would fit the Savage lens at the time. Now you do  :D
Shame on you Suzuki morons for cutting corners with the savage.

Photo of my "Intruderavage" headlight.

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by strang on 10/18/14 at 05:03:36

plastic Savage - steel Intruder 1400
25mm vs 40mm mounting holes.

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by old_rider on 11/09/14 at 17:03:03

Ok guys, I seen the results of GridMonkey's pictures and pointed it out to the wife, she liked the idea and has been bugging me for awhile to get her a brighter light.
I followed GridMonkey's lead and ordered this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261536384680?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Well, it took me a day (My body is broke, so I take breaks), but I finally installed one in my bike (to make sure it wouldn't blow up and kill my wife's bike I did mine first).
Here is the video that I made of the swap-out....ok its a bit lengthy and I talk to dang much, and I change my mind every other thought...but the results are quite outstanding.
At the end of the video (if you don't want to wait 22min.) I have pics of before and after..... from the front....my eyes still have a black dot...LOL...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQdOkxtlFU4&feature=youtu.be

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by GridMonkey on 11/09/14 at 20:21:56

Hey, old_rider, im not so sure you got that on there right. That adapter ring should replace the one that comes attached on the shaft of the led. Should be a silver screw that you would undo and then replace with the adapter ring that fits your housing. I didn't get a pic of that on my install, sorry. I worry that, while it does seem pretty bright, the LED's themselves are not in the focus point of your reflector. I put the spring in front of the adapter before inserting it into the reflector housing. Give your light a check at distance on a wall., if the beam  seems to have a hollow spot on it in the middle then you'll need to change that out to be the right ring. If there isn't, well, huh, guess it works pretty well that way too. I work as a stage lighting tech, optics and focus points are things i deal with daily so that's why i suggest checking this, if the filament/LED isn't in that sweet spot, its asking for trouble.

Thanks for the shout out btw :)

Luke

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by verslagen1 on 11/09/14 at 20:28:52

Yep, I took off the ring that was installed and replaced it with the correct one.  
And secured it with the screw.  No spring.  
Then locked it in place with the clip just like the stock bulb.

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by old_rider on 11/09/14 at 21:18:23

Gotcha...

Was wondering why it fit so weird.... i'll redo the video....

The hard part is done already :)

Spring kicked my butt.... its too tall, bent it a bit.... might try something different.

How in the world did you make it fit?

Video sucked.... might just try an explanation one tomorrow....to tired now. :P

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by Dave on 11/10/14 at 05:30:49

I am curious to see what hill happen with the cooling fan and heat in the enclosed headlight on the Savage.  The heat might build up inside the headlight and either cook the plastic....or overheat the LED unit.

Some headlight buckets for motorcycles have huge holes in them for the wiring to run in and out of the bucket....the Japanese bikes used to use the headlight bucket for "wiring central" and all the handlebar controls ran the wires into the headlight bucket to make the connections with the wiring harness.  Those buckets would not have any trouble with airflow - in fact the  headlight had a 1/8" gap all around the edge between the bucket and the headlight and air could flow in the gap in the front and out the back of the bucket....there wasn't anything about them what was waterproof!  That is one reason the headlights all had big rubber boots on the back of the headlight when they use the H-4 bulbs.

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by GridMonkey on 11/10/14 at 20:46:31

Hey,

I personally took the short arm and bent it out of the way, someone in this thread said they managed to get both, i think it was Versy, my guess is he just spread them a bit to the sides and moved them back in.

As to the overheating, i don't know, i'm in the northeast and it had not occurred to me, and of course now i'm riding and its 40-60 and that's sure cold enough to keep the led heat sink cool. IF i remember ill check it out come spring/summer time.

Luke



Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by verslagen1 on 11/10/14 at 21:09:23


310A0710010D16100B030E11620 wrote:
I am curious to see what hill happen with the cooling fan and heat in the enclosed headlight on the Savage.  The heat might build up inside the headlight and either cook the plastic....or overheat the LED unit.

The front of the bulb is open, that's why they then to buzz.

Heat is less than a 90w bulb anyway.

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by verslagen1 on 11/10/14 at 21:11:39


44716A674E6C6D68667A030 wrote:
I personally took the short arm and bent it out of the way, someone in this thread said they managed to get both, i think it was Versy, my guess is he just spread them a bit to the sides and moved them back in.


Yep, I used long nosed pliers and sprung the clip around the base and in.

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by old_rider on 11/11/14 at 20:56:05


617265647B7670727926170 wrote:
[quote author=44716A674E6C6D68667A030 link=1411594938/30#34 date=1415681191]I personally took the short arm and bent it out of the way, someone in this thread said they managed to get both, i think it was Versy, my guess is he just spread them a bit to the sides and moved them back in.


Yep, I used long nosed pliers and sprung the clip around the base and in.[/quote]


Thanks... I tried, but after a long day my hands were a bit weak.... i'll try again tomorrow. :)

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by old_rider on 11/12/14 at 16:03:42

Decided to just let it be.... the spring is under the LED and holding it, it cannot pop loose.
Although the light is at an angle, it is still putting out a round beam and I adjusted the angle of the light to compensate.
The video is not great and I ramble, but I hope you get the idea.... (maybe I should just stick to pictures...LOL)
At the end is a good comparison of OEM vrs. LED

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urIwSSFTLN4&feature=youtu.be[/media]

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by old_rider on 11/12/14 at 18:42:52

Went outside to adjust the headlight.... so this is what it looks like, the building i'm aiming at is about 200 feet away.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHOdDOAFS38&feature=youtu.be[/media]

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by -CIKMO- on 11/12/14 at 21:29:07

Hey guys,
I hava marauder hl on my bike. Its a 1996 and about 7 inches across bolts right up!

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by Kris01 on 11/15/14 at 06:03:15

I'm very interested in a direct swap, no modifications needed 7" headlight. EXACTLY which Marauder headlight did you use? Was it as simple as bolting on the new one without having to make anything fit?

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by Dave on 11/24/14 at 03:55:58

old_rider:

Has anyone been on the oncoming side of your LED headlight at night, and can comment on the amount of light coming at them?  I wonder if the less than stellar reflector in this light is good at controlling where the light goes.  Normal bulbs/reflectors have a horizontal cut off for the low beam that keeps the light from shining up into folks eyes.

Friday night I went past the high school and they were getting ready for a game, and a young fella's 4WD truck had LED headlights and a big wide LED light bar on the grill.  The thing was absolutely blinding, and totally RUDE.  I betcha' it won't be long before he is either given a ticket....or gets his lights punched out by someone tougher than him.

The DOT beams used in the US and shown in yellow and listed as North American Beam, the E Code beams are the European lights and are shown in white.  The E-code beams are better at lighting up the road shoulder at night, and perhaps a bit more visible in the daytime for folks who might pull out in front of you from the right side of the road.
 

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by carcaveman on 01/04/15 at 18:18:42

I got the same LED light that Oldrider received and installed it. My biggest issue was getting the retaining wire spring to fit and be usable. I used the best fitting retaining spacer to mimic the stock bulb filament position in the reflector. I had some socket crimp terminals that fit the connectors that came with the bulb (Yep, I wired it up backwards at first with the whole 'pass' and 'drive' wires). I am happy with the results, but need to test it out a bit more.. Thanks for this write up, it made things easy for me and will help others, I am sure.

David.

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by Joe F on 01/23/15 at 14:25:08


556C776D2E2F1E0 wrote:
Which Marauder are we talking about?  ...or does it matter?  What size is the headlight?


That's my picture  :)  I used an older (previous generation) Suzuki 800 Marauder headlight.  It was easy and it is sized right for the bike.  I found out that it would work after reading some old forum posts.


Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by Kris01 on 01/23/15 at 20:54:49

I think I read somewhere that the Marauder headlight mounts with a wider base or something. It's not a true plug and play. You have to modify the base to fit. Is this true?

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by koehlerrk on 01/25/15 at 04:36:53

Well, I can say this thread has inspired me to either do a Marauder headlight, or to do a projector lamp. I think I'd prefer the Marauder as it's tech I'm familiar with... I know nothing about projector lights. I'll keep you all posted...

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by verslagen1 on 08/09/15 at 15:43:45

1st issue with the LED headlight
I've been noticing some vibration coming from the headlight this week...
So today I took it apart and noticed a couple of the fan blades are missing.  Also the screw for the mount was gone.
snipped off a blade on the opposite side to balance it and found another screw along with a lock washer and it's back together.

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by GridMonkey on 08/09/15 at 18:30:39

Sorry to hear that, would hate to think i pointed someone at some bad gear, mine is still going strong, though stupid bucket rattle, and i had a second one that i put in my g/fs rebel still working fine. i wonder how well they will run w/o a fan at all. Id suggest we all, whoever has one, adds some threadlock to that mount screw at the least and keep looking at it.

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by GT61 TURBO ZX14 on 01/20/18 at 22:05:16

What about this it's supposed to be Plug and Play

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by Dave on 01/21/18 at 03:34:09


04283B221E0E283C3D21202C3B490 wrote:
What about this it's supposed to be Plug and Play


The photo doesn't show the bottom of the mounting bracket to confirm that it has the 2 mounting screws that are 6mm - the light is likely a single "Harley" style bracket.

From the looks of that fluted lens, it is a "utility" or "work" style of light and it scatters the light at close range.  It will not be able to provide any useful light down the road for any distance.


Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by GT61 TURBO ZX14 on 01/21/18 at 03:42:41


4C777A6D7C706B6D767E736C1F0 wrote:
[quote author=04283B221E0E283C3D21202C3B490 link=1411594938/45#49 date=1516514716]What about this it's supposed to be Plug and Play


The photo doesn't show the bottom of the mounting bracket to confirm that it has the 2 mounting screws that are 6mm - the light is likely a single "Harley" style bracket.

From the looks of that fluted lens, it is a "utility" or "work" style of light and it scatters the light at close range.  It will not be able to provide any useful light down the road for any distance.

It also only shows a black and a red wire - which would indicate that it is not a dual filament bulb that would have a High/Low beam.[/quote]


It's got 3 wires for the plug in I ordered one to see if it won't work I will put it on the snowblower lol


Here is the link


Krator 5" Black LED Headlight with Light Mounting Bracket for Suzuki Savage LS 650 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N7Z3RNR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_wXhzAbS0KHWG6

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by Dave on 01/21/18 at 08:16:47

I am a bit of  skeptic when it comes to buying something of quality with free shipping for $19.95 - I seriously doubt that you are going to get a headlight that works better than the stock light housing - you would have been better off to buy a $20 LED or Silverstar bulb.


Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by Gary_in_NJ on 01/21/18 at 11:22:19

Or if you are going for the all black look, just have the OEM unit powder coated.

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by GT61 TURBO ZX14 on 01/21/18 at 13:25:02


5C676A7D6C607B7D666E637C0F0 wrote:
I am a bit of  skeptic when it comes to buying something of quality with free shipping for $19.95 - I seriously doubt that you are going to get a headlight that works better than the stock light housing - you would have been better off to buy a $20 LED or Silverstar bulb.



I still mitt by a different set up but for $20 it's worth the try the try lol

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by GT61 TURBO ZX14 on 01/21/18 at 13:27:05


7A70747E757C78712F292D1D0 wrote:
Or if you are going for the all black look, just have the OEM unit powder coated.


No just trying to get more power for the ignition system to increase a hotter spark . So I'm trying to cut down on power usage everywhere else.

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by verslagen1 on 01/21/18 at 14:53:03

looks like a driving light, not a headlight.
just a bank of low power led's, with no focus... great if you want a flood light for 6 feet.

Title: Re: Headlight mods.
Post by GT61 TURBO ZX14 on 01/21/18 at 14:59:46


7F6C7B7A65686E6C6738090 wrote:
looks like a driving light, not a headlight.
just a bank of low power led's, with no focus... great if you want a flood light for 6 feet.


Well we will find out once it gets here worse comes to worse it goes on my snowblower ;D

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