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Message started by WebsterMark on 04/28/15 at 05:40:27

Title: Baltimore
Post by WebsterMark on 04/28/15 at 05:40:27

on my way to downtown Baltimore this morning, this ought to be interesting. I'll report what I see.

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by Paraquat on 04/28/15 at 06:06:29

Act like an animal, get treated like an animal.

--Steve

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/28/15 at 06:32:14

step back, long game view

Remember how incendiary and constant and ongoing the Trayvon Martin thing was? It Looked like the media was trying to start a race war.

On to Ferguson. Information that Proved the cop shot him clean and fair was SUPPRESSED. And THAT has been USED as Another racially charged moment.

And I CAUTION everyone to be Very careful about what attitudes they allow the media to convince them are reasonable and justified.

Be aware that the economy is shaky,at best. Not just in America.

They NEED a Huge Problem. A societal breakdown of such proportions that You will beg for martial law. And they NEED for that to happen Before the collapse of the dollar.
IF the truth about the condition of the economy comes out, then the ones who have screwed the entire world will hang, and they know that, SO, they NEED the Inevitable Societal Collapse to APPARENTLY have its roots in Something, ANYTHING, but the economy.

Divide and conquer, it's not just a cliche.

What happened to anyone who was Truly working towards and starting to achieve any kind of racial unity?
Who ARE the people behind Sharpton and Jackson?
You REALLY can't see how manufactured society is?

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by WebsterMark on 04/28/15 at 07:04:58

My first report is no one on this plane looks like an activist on their way to start $hit. However, one difference between ferguson and baltimore is population density. Baltimore is close to DC and heck, it's only 3 hour drive to NYC so the ease in which outsiders can come in and start crap is way more likely than Ferguson which is 5 hours from Chicago, 4 from KC or Memphis. Our event in the convention center downtown is still scheduled as planned. National guard troops patrolling the downtown streets I'm told. Probably looks like Iraq.

And no JOG, you're wrong. This is not orchestrated. It's the results of many things, but purposeful actions by a few wishing to distract the populace ain't one of them.

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/28/15 at 15:36:02

For Web to not get what I'm saying is no surprise, but for no one?
I don't know how anyone can continue to pretend that we actually have what is allegedly guaranteed in the Constitution.
The recent Tax debate, all farce.
Look into history. I'm not going to say that it's easy, its not. The info isn't thrown at us. But question.. look back.
When DID the taxes really start? Is that what made us great?
I'm pretty much in the
You earn it, YOU keep it.
Camp
Remember, once upon a time Kings had a war chest. When it ran dry, no more money to spend..
Today, they just ANNOUNCE
We will SPEND....
and you PAY, with a diminished economy.

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by MnSpring on 04/28/15 at 19:23:57

Like Ferguson/Watts/and others.
I believe it is a, ’total’, MOB, mentality.

Today, went to a, ’Subway’ shop, with my 93 year old mother.
Their was another person, with what looked like her parents their.

In walked two, (Looked Like Mexican Gang Bangers).
Sweat pants, and hooded sweatshirt, (both several sizes to big),
in bright red, with a, ‘logo’, on front and back.
Red, baseball caps, several sizes to big, on backwards,
with same, ‘logo’. And walking in, ’That’, fashion.

They acted perfectly, ’normal’, (Well outside of their dress & walk).

Could be, they were just hungry, and wanted a sandwich.
Could be, their was no media around to record their actions.
Could be, their were away from their, ‘piers’, and just wanted to, ‘be normal’.
Could be, they had no idea who was carrying.

So the, TV’ed, ‘Riots’. How much is ’staged’ ?
How much is, ‘amplified’, by a company who wants, better, ‘ratings’ ?
How much is, ‘acting’, for the cameras ?

Again, it doesn’t take very long, to, ’Teach’ a person,
Or EVEN a Dog. That certain, ‘actions’, will occur a, certain, ‘result’.

When did people, STOP, ’teaching’, what is accepted behavior ?

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by WebsterMark on 04/29/15 at 14:29:01

National Guard troops all over downtown is a strange sight. It's very quiet here. Curfew meant bars next to hotel had last call at 9pm. I'm across from Candem Yards and while there's a Major League Baseball game going on, you would know it because no fans allowed. That was a huge mistake to do that. Beautiful day here in Baltimore and a day game would have brought a lot of sales to all the local shops around here. Lot of people pissed at that and they'll blame the rioters who are black so by default, it further divides. Besides, capitulating to thugs just wasn't a good idea. I can't believe they'll leave this curfew in place for another 5 days.

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/29/15 at 15:33:06

Lot of people pissed at that and they'll blame the rioters who are black so by default, it further divides.

Youre catching on..

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by WebsterMark on 04/30/15 at 06:22:36

The mayor of Baltimore is dumber than a bag of hair......
She doesn't exactly inspire confidence.... she's like Obama, got elected cause she was black and could string 3 or 4 sentences together but other than that, she adds nothing. It would be better if she just shut up. She must know this because every press conference I've seen, she says a little bit and turns the mic over to police leaders.

There's talk of ending the curfew a few days early. Business owners, especially those downtown, are screaming. Baseball team moved their home weekend series out of town. That's 3 nights of lost sales local restaurants and bars were expecting, not to imagine guys who live off tips in and out of the stadium.

My hotel I'm in would be 100% sold out but I was talking to front desk and she said they were less than 40%. Also, the big Hilton hotel next door has a huge bar I've been to a few times. It's always packed. last night at 9PM, there were only a handful in there. Lot of people losing money they can't afford to lose.
now there's a story about this guy perhaps hurting himself. it's possible he was partially injured in the arrest and 'finished' himself off on his own, banging his head against the side of the van out of frustration. Who knows what happened, but I know this for sure, whatever the truth is, it won't matter. Still a ton of idiots around the country walking around with the 'hands up; don't shoot' chat which of course never happened.
Can't wait to get the hell out of Baltimore tonight. Off to Cedar Rapids Iowa next week which is of course, next to Heaven!

I'm guessing they'll be no rioters and protestors in Cedar Rapids over a 12 times convicted drug dealer who ran from the cops....

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/30/15 at 06:49:01

The "Witness " HEARD him.
Didn't say SAW him.
Really? I'm not aware of police vans with individual solitary confinement, ssolid walled cells.
Is she dumb or just being told what to do?
She Admitted she ordered the cops to
Give them Room to Destroy.

Ohh, noo, this crisis isnt being used.

They NEED a crisis large enough to justify martial law, because afterwards, they can blame the economic collapse on the martial law.

IF the economy is the crisis, Then all those treasonous trade agreements and FED policies , bailouts, and the fortunes they created will be getting a more realistic looking at by the People on whose backs these illegal burdens have been laid.

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by jachase1980 on 04/30/15 at 09:48:30

I was in Jamaica I think in 99 rebuilding a church just outside of Kingston, when a state of martial law was enacted.

On that small island was enough for me to see you do NOT want that to happen at home.

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by pgambr on 04/30/15 at 17:34:02

657A7C7B6661506050687A763D0F0 wrote:

They NEED a crisis large enough to justify martial law, because afterwards, they can blame the economic collapse on the martial law.

They are going to have an 8-week training exercise through multiple states this summer. Pretty interesting, worth the read.

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user92183/imageroot/2015/04/JadeHelmMap.jpg

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-29/texas-governor-calls-state-guard-counter-jade-helm-federal-invasion-fears

Best regards,

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 04/30/15 at 18:41:03

Insurgent pocket

Really..

Anyone have even an idea Why S.California is red?

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by WebsterMark on 05/01/15 at 02:11:39

Lighten up Francis.

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by WebsterMark on 05/01/15 at 02:26:58

If Marshall is declared, no one wants it. And I thought the mayor of Baltimore was dumb as a bag of hair. You've predicted a million things none of which have come true so keep on throwing $hit against the wall and sooner or later a little piece will stick.

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/01/15 at 11:19:49

Mark, if I was as wrong as you say, my wife would have been gone years ago. When I first started showing her the things I talk about, she disagreed. Over time and after much deliberation, she stepped back, looked carefully at ALL the time s I had shown her what was happening, and agreed. If I had the time to spend with you, I could change the Way you see the world.
All I can do here is toss stuff out. The ones who have the desire to see the truth and are willing to have their heart broken by coming to see the truth of the reality of what is happening will. I can only toss clues and offer evidence, conclusions and understanding is just not something I can help you with.
Perhaps you have a better explanation for the things I see that tell me that the future is grim. I believe Eisenhower, maybe you believe his speech,warning us, was an old mans demented rant. But,I see evidence of what he said that we should Not allow,,,

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by verslagen1 on 05/01/15 at 12:12:12

In any of those states this summer, it will be cruel and unusual punishment to be outside.

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by Art Webb on 05/01/15 at 12:24:59

maybe that's whay they're designated 'hostile' ;D

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/01/15 at 15:30:39

Nobody wants to even try to answer the question?
Why THERE?
Look up the word

Insurgent

The sound of the word would have you think wrong.

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/01/15 at 17:55:54

Really? Someone has to be savvy enough to at least take a shot.

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/01/15 at 19:22:06

If I said Obamacare was a bad deal, would I be wrong?

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/01/15 at 21:50:36

Really? Nobody wants to try?
Okay, insurgents, did you look it up?
Why THERE? What is going on there that would Cause people to BE insurgents?

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by WebsterMark on 05/02/15 at 05:23:15

243B3D3A2720112111293B377C4E0 wrote:

I'm not denying the future is grim, in fact, I'm probably more sure we're f'd than you are. I just know events are not orchestrated in the manner you think they are. There's a difference between taking advantage of situations that occur at random or knowing an event will likely occur and then being ready when it does than your deranged view that a relatively small group of people are able to plan and pull off ridiculously complicated events over and over again (like 9/11) to maintain society to their benefit. That makes for good movies, but it ain't reality.

No one planned for Mike Brown to rob a store and attack a cop, it just happened. No one planned for Freddie Gray to run from the wrong group of pissed off cops, it just happened. No one planned for Hinckley to shoot Reagan, it just happened, etc...etc...etc...

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/02/15 at 10:58:24

Someone planned 9/11, if you believe that the defense of the area and security at every airport, everything just went right for the hijackers and wrong for us AND NOBODY who was supposed to keep it from happening wass punished and most, promoted.

Correct you are,
They announced that they do not Fail to make use of crises.

Reagan, I believe was not meant to be killed, only wounded. ANd I believe Bush had a hand in it.

I agree, no one has a full grasp of the Steering Wheel, though it is just a matter of time. That power Eisenhower warned of is the power that killed Kennedy and wounded Reagan.

Now, what is your assessment of Obamacare?

The question as to why S.Ca. is red, still open gents.

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by pgambr on 05/02/15 at 15:28:05

Quote:

Yes, I believe there are nefarious forces at work. Here are some of the easier examples to illustrate. Do you really believe this is not orchestrated?

NAFTA
Repeal of Glass-Steagall Act
NDAA
Obamacare
Consolidation of all the media in the US – 5 groups own everything
TPP – In the works, they won’t even let Congress see the what is in it
Free citizenship to millions of illegal aliens
Jade Helm - Live military drills in the streets this summer

Best regards,

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/03/15 at 17:53:52

Insurgents, read citizens, sick of watching the border, well,you do the math.

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by mpescatori on 05/04/15 at 00:50:14

657A7C7B6661506050687A763D0F0 wrote:

May I kindly ask permission to step in.

I realize all this is none of my business, BUT having done a plethora of military and Martial law exercises with very similar scenarios, I believe I understand the scenario illustrated.
(incidentally, it's martial law, not "Marshall"; Gen.Marshall has nothing to do with it)

Here is my anecdote by the occasional foreign tourist...

I was in California and the Southwest in June/July 2008. I was amazed at the number of people who couldn't utter a single word of English.
I stopped and asked for directions in L.A. - actually, in Anaheim - I was on Katella Ave.
My TomTom said I was on Katella Ave., road signs said I was on Katella Ave., passersby confirmed I was on Katella Ave. ...
...yet at the address provided by BEST WESTERN, instead of THIS

http://www.anaheiminn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Anaheim-Inn-exterior-2014-4-474x316.jpg

I FOUND A TRUCK TIRE RETAILER !!! :o :o :o

So I asked a gas station attendant... "where is Disneyland?"
::)
"Please, can you tell me where is Disneyland?"
::)
"Do you speak English?"
:-X
"Por favor, donde sta el fu*king Disneyland?" >:(
(I had been at the wheel for the better part of 12 hours, from Parker, AZ up through Lake Havasu and Old Route 66 to L.A. and all I wanted was a cool shower and dinner)

A good samaritan stopped and explained "This is East Katella Ave, you want West Katella Ave... ;) "
::)
So I thanked her and in a few minutes found my hotel but never could understand why TomTom wouldn't name the Street properly.

Why am I telling you this anectode ? Because of the guy who couldn't speak a single word of English.

Give another 20 years, ladies and gentlemen, and the US Southwest will be a Latino majority area, like it or not.

What Davy Crockett took away from Mexico... the State of Tejas (that's the original spelling) and California, Mexicans will take back, not with guns but with votes.
Arizona and New Mexico are sandwiched inbetween and will go along with the tide.
They will be in sufficient numbers to outvote the White minority and might well lure the black and chinese communities to go with them.

Think about it, they are all ethnic minorities which, one way or another, were "exploited" by the White community,
and now that they have the numbers, the economy and the education, they can have their say on an open and level field.

Am I advocating violence ? Not at all ! I am simply watching things happen.

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by mpescatori on 05/04/15 at 00:51:49

P.S. It seems 3 of the 6 LEOs indicted for the Death of the guy in the Baltimore Police van... are black.

So the accusation of "racist police" should be dropped...

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/04/15 at 09:39:52

Agreed with by Pesci,, that is encouraging.

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by Art Webb on 05/04/15 at 11:08:05

7C6174627270657E6378110 wrote:

P.S. It seems 3 of the 6 LEOs indicted for the Death of the guy in the Baltimore Police van... are black.

So the accusation of "racist police" should be dropped...

Agreed, but will not be, because it doesn't fit 'the narrative'
And yes, the policies of NAFTA, legalizing illegals, etc, is leading that way
Funny thing is, the folks pushing that result think they are going to be kept in power by doing so, they fail to recognize the greater implications

This is a large part of why the citizens have the rights we do, here, because the founding fathers saw the possibility of these sorts of occurances

Of course those rights are meaningless if 'we the sheeple' allow them to be abrogated

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by Paraquat on 05/04/15 at 11:14:19

3B242225383F0E3E0E36242863510 wrote:

Really? Nobody wants to try?
Okay, insurgents, did you look it up?
Why THERE? What is going on there that would Cause people to BE insurgents?

http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2015/05/02/403865824/texas-governor-deploys-state-guard-to-stave-off-obama-takeover

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/12/22/politics/obama-military-low-approval-rating/index.html

Either one of these?

--Steve

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/04/15 at 19:28:57

That doesn't speak to Why SoCal is red and labeled as possible insurgent.
Understand the term, insurgent. Then look at where, the border has been overrun,the citizens are tired of it. The game designer has decided that it is likely that that area COULD become resistant to further abuse. Does that sound reasonable?

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by old.indian on 05/04/15 at 21:05:05

Why is SoCal labeled as "insurgent" ???? A) What is located in SoCal? Naval bases, Naval and Marine air stations , Camp Pendleton etc. plus a large retired military community. The military is historically conservative politically. And who, exactly is doing the labeling ???? Think about it.. ::)

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/04/15 at 21:31:33

Your update on the demographics makes my point.

WHO is doing the labeling of the segments of the country? Excellent question.

Title: Re: Insurgent
Post by mpescatori on 05/05/15 at 04:15:42

You can have two kinds of "insurgent", diametrically opposite.

1. The Latino community, legal, native or immigrant, realizes they have become the ethnic relative majority, and with a good portion of the black/asian community they can create a "SoCal Party" which wins local elections and runs a pro-latino policy.
Something which the Ca.Governor in Sacramento might find unacceptable, so he sends the Ca. National Guard, to which "THE PEOPLE" become "insurgents".

2. Sebastopol/Crimea scenario, where the Russian navy and families were the "hard core" onto which the "Crimean declaration of self-determination and secession from Ukraine, adhesion to Russia" was declared.
In this case, the Military / White-NeoCon community revolt against the Latino Community, and have the upper hand not because of numbers etc. but because of better organization, discipline and chain of command.
So in the end you have a quasi-civil war between "whites" and "latinos".

These two scenarios are in appearance diametrically opposite, yet the result is exactly the same.

When you live in the Powder depot, it doesn't matter who lights up the first cigarette, it's all up in flames anyway... ::)

And THIS http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2015/05/02/403865824/texas-governor-deploys-state-guard-to-stave-off-obama-takeover is the clear evidence.

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by Paraquat on 05/05/15 at 06:04:30

I am a little impressed, Mpesc.

Curious how JoG responds now.

--Steve

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/05/15 at 07:38:01

The Wal-Mart thing is alarming. For a Drill they are doing this?
Looks like a real op setup. Maybe I won't be around.
As for Pescis definition s, yes, i understand. I'm still seeing it the same. Citizens are tired of watching the border Not be honored. Could I be missing it? Sure, who is designing the game, who is doing the labeling,
I'm trying to get in front of an unknown. The variables are just more than anyone without inside information can really know. The definition of insurgents is something that people need to understand. I'm sure that few here had a good idea what it means before yesterday. The scenario s that could bring someone to Be considered as an insurgent are many.
The point is that the Word SOUNDS like the Insurgents are the Bad Guys,
Surging In, causing trouble. They CAN just be normal citizens who are tired of lawlessness who stand up.
That's the point I was trying to make. The media has used that word as a label for the enemy. Read that until you get the importance of it.

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by mpescatori on 05/06/15 at 01:34:11

"Insurgent = Surging In, causing trouble"

JOG, you have just defined the New England Patriot, the Minute Man.

http://https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/12/bf/75/12bf75db9b66b39ac7ddeab9ee592895.jpg

They, too, rebelled against a far, far away centralized government which bullied the local population without giving back very much in terms of sound local administration...

They coalesced and fought an Army which they considered to have become foreign... and in some ways foreign it was, as the German Emperor loaned King George III his Hussar and Hessian Regiments
(so that the Patriot Army was often fighting German troops commanded by British Officers...)

Won't anybody remember this man ? The moral example he gave all ?
http://www.history.org/almanack/life/politics/giveme.cfm

http://www.history.org/Almanack/people/bios/images/patrickhenry_sm.jpg[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHo-3LEcgQE[/media]

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by mpescatori on 05/06/15 at 01:41:46

Quick ! Off the cuff... can anyone tell me what this picture is all about ?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0y8wtqAi8R4/VUUUsQR-mSI/AAAAAAAAAt4/OFDwoBPJpw0/s1600/Lexington%2BGreen%2BMap.jpg

There, I've thrown the gauntlet... ;)

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/06/15 at 07:29:55

Spectators

Reenactment of some battle, I hadda look up Lexington, we have several and none of thones I knew were established back then, so, Mass.
Id remembered Lexington Concord, but my History isn't good enough, Google told me. First battle of war for independence.
I don't know what is gonna come out of the Jade Helm thing, but im not comforted by it.

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by WebsterMark on 05/06/15 at 15:09:26

Meanwhile back in Baltimore..... The prosecuting attorney might as well burn Baltimore to the ground on her own....Those cops are not going to get convicted based on her ineptness.... When they get off, and they will, you don't want to be anywhere near a major urban area.....

Title: Re: Baltimore
Post by oldNslow on 05/08/15 at 17:20:32

JOG wrote:

Quote:

I don't know what is gonna come out of the Jade Helm thing, but im not comforted by it.

You're right to be uncomfortable. This probably isn't going to make you feel any better.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/05/brandon-smith/when-the-power-elite-wage-war-on-americans/

The powers that be expect that the Sh*t is going to hit the fan sooner rather than later. They're just getting ready for when that happens. That's pretty much all you need to know about JADE HELM