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Message started by verslagen1 on 11/29/15 at 20:06:05

Title: Adjuster check by external means
Post by verslagen1 on 11/29/15 at 20:06:05

Tell me what you guys think.

Make a calibrated bent wire to measure the extension of the adjuster.

You can hook the tensioner guide thru the oil port and with marks will be able to get a reading on the position of the plunger.

1st try looks promising.

I didn't have any music wire, maybe 1/8" or 3/16"

for this try I had some 1/8" brass wire handy.

all 90° bends

1st bend 3/4" long
2nd bend 3" but I think 2.5" will work better
3rd bend 1"
4th bend 4"
then cut off a 1" length

you should end up with long skinny S that'll sit flat on a table.


Title: Re: Adjuster check by external means
Post by verslagen1 on 11/29/15 at 20:07:16

1. Stick the end in the oil filler port

Title: Re: Adjuster check by external means
Post by verslagen1 on 11/29/15 at 20:31:17

2. turn it to the left and go in a bit

Title: Re: Adjuster check by external means
Post by verslagen1 on 11/29/15 at 20:31:47

3. turn it 90° CW up and go in a bit

Title: Re: Adjuster check by external means
Post by verslagen1 on 11/29/15 at 20:32:14

4. then turn it so the middle goes in

Title: Re: Adjuster check by external means
Post by verslagen1 on 11/29/15 at 20:32:35

5. keep it rubbing the inside of the cover

Title: Re: Adjuster check by external means
Post by verslagen1 on 11/29/15 at 20:32:56

6. push it in till the middle of the S hits the oil deflector

Title: Re: Adjuster check by external means
Post by verslagen1 on 11/29/15 at 20:33:17

7. then swing it in away from the cover and hook the tensioner.
the middle of the S should hit the wall visible thru the oil filler port.

Title: Re: Adjuster check by external means
Post by Serowbot on 11/29/15 at 21:39:48

"...then You do the hokey pokey
And you turn yourself around
That's what it's all about""
...  ;D...

This is a great idea... but, I'm not clear on step 7...
What,.. are we hooking?...
Is that the chain, itself?... or the leeward tensioner?...

Can we get a closer view of that point?...



Can we call it,.. the Versy diviner?...  ;D...
Maybe a name contest will be better... :-?...

Title: Re: Adjuster check by external means
Post by verslagen1 on 11/29/15 at 21:48:55


2036213C24313C27530 wrote:
This is a great idea... but, I'm not clear on step 7...
What,.. are we hooking?...
Is that the chain, itself?... or the leeward tensioner?...

that's the backside of the tensioner guide
there's no chain in that pic to protect the innocent.   ;)

Quote:
Can we get a closer view of that point?...

Can we call it,.. the Versy diviner?...  ;D...
Maybe a name contest will be better... :-?...

that last pic is quite blurry, I'll have to update it later.

wouldn't you need 2 sticks to call it that?   :-?

Title: Re: Adjuster check by external means
Post by Serowbot on 11/29/15 at 22:04:29


706374756A6761636837060 wrote:
wouldn't you need 2 sticks to call it that?   :-?


It's a thumper... two would be redundant.... ;D...

Title: Re: Adjuster check by external means
Post by Gus on 11/30/15 at 06:52:27

LOL!

786E79647C69647F0B0 wrote:
[quote author=706374756A6761636837060 link=1448856365/0#9 date=1448862535]wouldn't you need 2 sticks to call it that?   :-?


It's a thumper... two would be redundant.... ;D...[/quote]

Title: Re: Adjuster check by external means
Post by hotprops on 11/30/15 at 07:43:37

wow if you could perfect this than do a video with cover on and off with min/max values mass produce. every one would buy. what a headache solver  for people who still have oem adjuster, and are past the7k mark  keep working on it ,it will sell like mad

Title: Re: Adjuster check by external means
Post by norm92de on 11/30/15 at 08:07:32

Great idea!
I thought of using a bore scope until I found out what they cost.
I'm not sure how you actually measure the extension but it looks like a terrific way to save quite a bit of work. :)

Title: Re: Adjuster check by external means
Post by verslagen1 on 11/30/15 at 08:21:18

With casting tolerances there is nothing to measure from reliably.
One person maybe on the flat part of the guide, another maybe on the rivet.

At this point in time, the best we can do is mark a starting point and measure from there.

Of course, someone that has the cover off can precisely measure the extension of the plunger and mark a reference point on the "diviner" and know how far they have to go.

I'll have to get some more wire and play around with the bends to see what works best.  Right now I'm more concerned with a design that's reproducible than ease of use.

Title: Re: Adjuster check by external means
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 11/30/15 at 08:54:10

I've seen single sticks used. And, being a guy who keeps a stock of music/piano/hobby wire, I Know what bending that stuff takes.
To get accurate bends in desired locations isn't something that just happens by accident. Bend too fast or try for too sharp a radius and it can shatter. Heat it? Yeah, then it crumbles. I guess quenching is in order.

Versy, do you have a bar stock with two rods set into it for a bender?

Title: Re: Adjuster check by external means
Post by verslagen1 on 11/30/15 at 09:45:00


382721263B3C0D3D0D35272B60520 wrote:
Versy, do you have a bar stock with two rods set into it for a bender?

No, but I have a vice, a hammer and a pair of pliers.   ;D

I've done quite a bit of bending using these crude tools, but they get the job done.

Title: Re: Adjuster check by external means
Post by norm92de on 11/30/15 at 11:22:51

Versy,
What we need is another window to be able to see the adjuster. Problem solved. ;D

Title: Re: Adjuster check by external means
Post by Art Webb on 11/30/15 at 11:36:28

Reminds me of a salesman at a gun store I was talking to once
Me "Do you have the model with the 3' barrel?"
Him "No, but I have a hacksaw and a clear conscience"  :o ;D

Title: Re: Adjuster check by external means
Post by verslagen1 on 11/30/15 at 11:41:38


46475A45111A4C4D280 wrote:
Versy,
What we need is another window to be able to see the adjuster. Problem solved. ;D

You don't really need an oil filter do you?
It's too course to do any good anyhow.
Just take the oil filter cover off, toss the filter and cut thru the back wall.
When ever you need to check the adjuster, just take the cover off.   :-?  joker.

Title: Re: Adjuster check by external means
Post by Art Webb on 11/30/15 at 11:49:18

now that makes me wonder
what if you did cut a hole in the back wall?
easy adjuster check every oil change
probably no feasible though right?

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