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Title: The Revolution grows evermore....... Post by raydawg on 02/23/16 at 15:50:05 Goodness, these two stories are authored by democrats deep within the party structure, and they get it...... Folks, do not give up hope just yet, some realize the party is over and the clean up needs to start  ;D Worth a read! The End of the Establishment? By Robert Reich February 23, 2016 link: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/02/23/the_end_of_the_establishment_129755.html And “It’s the corruption, stupid”: by: Bill Curry He was White House counselor to President Clinton and a two-time Democratic nominee for governor of Connecticut. He is at work on a book on President Obama and the politics of populism. http://www.salon.com/2016/02/23/its_the_corruption_stupid_hillarys_too_compromised_to_see_what_donald_trump_understands/

Title: Re: The Revolution grows evermore....... Post by old.indian on 02/23/16 at 16:21:48 :)

Title: Re: The Revolution grows evermore....... Post by pg on 02/23/16 at 16:24:41 That's why Trump is loved as well as loathed.  He is wading into deep water though.  This past week he made the assertion he would be interested in prosecuting Hillary, in favor of auditing the Fed, would publicize the confidential 28 pages from the 9/11 report, and said his position is that he is neutral regarding Israel & Palestine.   :o Best regards,

Title: Re: The Revolution grows evermore....... Post by raydawg on 02/23/16 at 16:42:50 I still think he is only savvy enough to tap into this energy of discontent, not that he runs policy deep. There is a story/article/interview of Al Sharpton about Trump, he too makes some interesting observations. This movement started with Ross Perot, he was right about that giant sucking sound. I wish I knew what they did to scare the dickens out of him, to make him drop out. JOG, you read this stuff yet?

Title: Re: The Revolution grows evermore....... Post by old.indian on 02/23/16 at 16:44:45 4B5C5A5659493B0 wrote: That's why Trump is loved as well as loathed.  He is wading into deep water though.  This past week he made the assertion he would be interested in prosecuting Hillary, in favor of auditing the Fed, would publicize the confidential 28 pages from the 9/11 report, and said his position is that he is neutral regarding Israel & Palestine.   :o Best regards, Re: Prosecuting Hillary... If she isn't elected I'd be willing to bet the farm that Obama will grant her a "Presidential Pardon" before he leaves office. Re: "Neutral regarding Israel & Palestine" Right or wrong, there is an very powerful "pro-Israel" lobby in this country that includes many  evangelical and fundament's Christian churches.

Title: Re: The Revolution grows evermore....... Post by raydawg on 02/24/16 at 04:55:41 And trump rolls on...... He is sucking the air out of the political system..... The establishment knows not what to do, or as the article suggest, opts to not look at reality. Isn't it telling when big money started deciding the elections the middle class of America started to decline? Did you read the links bot? Perhaps those one party only voters refuse to believe reality and will keep blaming the opposition, I guess, right where the establishment wants them  :-[

Title: Re: The Revolution grows evermore....... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/24/16 at 19:51:43 No, first stop in on this thread,,, been busy today. Sadly, most of the Discontent Is scattered. Got the right, unhappy about everything the left has shoved down our throats. The left is unhappy,, because the Idiot right wouldn't just admit that the left is correct and just let them run, and all would be well by now. Then, the Very few, like me, sees that there is only one party. I'm Tired of it. Isn't it odd how much the left hate war, until Their president says kill? Wait till they get to see what their electric bills go to. http://instituteforenergyresearch.org/topics/policy/power-plant-closures/ Clinton closes access to mining cleanest coal. You figure out Why. http://instituteforenergyresearch.org/topics/policy/power-plant-closures/ oreover, the coal at Kaiporowitz Plateau is a kind of coal that is not found "everywhere." It is very low sulfur, low ash - hence, low polluting - coal, the kind in high demand for power plants, such as one being designed for Ensenada, Mexico. That megawatt giant, presently on the drawing boards, will supply electricity across northern Baja, an area plagued by brownouts. Had it not been taken off the world market, the logical source of coal for the Baja plant would be the Kaiparowitz Plateau. Once mined it could be transported by rail to the ports of Long Beach or Los Angeles, then by barge to Ensenada. Thanks to Clinton, there will be no exporting of Kaiparowitz coal, which means the facility's procurement people will have to look elsewhere for clean non-polluting fuel. That's not nearly the whole article. Of course, only one or two will look. And they already know what is going on. Card carrying bubs and card carrying dems,,, gack.. Wake up.

Title: Re: The Revolution grows evermore....... Post by raydawg on 02/25/16 at 03:53:39 Well JOG, money and power, power and money, has it not been the motivation for mankind since they exited their caves to live as a clan...... It is hard for most to grasp a gradual shift, as evidenced by the mindset of those who act as sheep. This election will is different, as the power and money will have to join forces to thwart what appears to be an awakening.... I am gladden to see the Bush is gone, and so early, and how the conservative pundits are ready to trip over their talking points re: Trump.... But alas, as with the left, many will only lie to themselves in order to not have to change themselves.... Can you imagine the next scene when/if Trump gets elected? He has stated so much, and those who follow him will demand results, as this is an angry bunch. Those who he campaigns against, if he follows through on his campaign rhetoric, with put up a resistance for sure..... That army will be made up of everything that has brought us to this point in time, except Custer  ;D

Title: Re: The Revolution grows evermore....... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/25/16 at 04:25:04 I thought it before I heard it. This is The most important election in my life. What will happen?

Title: Re: The Revolution grows evermore....... Post by thumperclone on 02/26/16 at 15:26:00 a person who keeps saying "to be honest" or "I'll be honest with you" is lying

Title: Re: The Revolution grows evermore....... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/26/16 at 19:43:58 It's right next to You can trust me. I'm a Christian.

Title: Re: The Revolution grows evermore....... Post by raydawg on 02/27/16 at 08:26:53 3B242225383F0E3E0E36242863510 wrote: It's right next to You can trust me. I'm a Christian. Honestly?  ;D

Title: Re: The Revolution grows evermore....... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/27/16 at 09:14:55 Yeah, Ray, seriously, to be honest with you, truthfully, . And I finally went to read the stuff in your original post. The first one, I survived that. Second one, I made it past here. What you notice first about Trump is his xenophobia, but he also speaks more about corruption than immigration. Do people who live in a high crime zone and put bars on the windows and dead bolts on the doors have Kleptophobia? Xenophobia? xen·o·pho·bi·a [ch716]zen[ch601][ch712]f[ch333]b[ch275][ch601],[ch716]z[ch275]n[ch601][ch712]f[ch333]b[ch275][ch601]/ noun intense or irrational dislike or fear of people from other countries. Wanting to stop the influx of people from other places while that influx is damaging the economy for everyone who is here is not fear of or hatred for other nationalities. There's a reason for the signs that say Capacity 250 By the door of the meeting room at t h e Hilton. Common sense tells us that when we have high unemployment, Importing people who need work is STUPID. WE ARE over capacity. Gee, how Could we have been so silly? Or , is there an agenda? Every Trade agreement has hurt us, yet, none are in danger of being repealed. When observed reality ALIGNS with the things that the crazy conspiracy theorists say, maybe it is time to stop sneering and start listening. The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with a national .

Title: Re: The Revolution grows evermore....... Post by raydawg on 02/27/16 at 09:56:49 736C6A6D70774676467E6C602B190 wrote: Yeah, Ray, seriously, to be honest with you, truthfully, . And I finally went to read the stuff in your original post. The first one, I survived that. Second one, I made it past here. What you notice first about Trump is his xenophobia, but he also speaks more about corruption than immigration. Do people who live in a high crime zone and put bars on the windows and dead bolts on the doors have Kleptophobia? Xenophobia? xen·o·pho·bi·a [ch716]zen[ch601][ch712]f[ch333]b[ch275][ch601],[ch716]z[ch275]n[ch601][ch712]f[ch333]b[ch275][ch601]/ noun intense or irrational dislike or fear of people from other countries. Wanting to stop the influx of people from other places while that influx is damaging the economy for everyone who is here is not fear of or hatred for other nationalities. There's a reason for the signs that say Capacity 250 By the door of the meeting room at t h e Hilton. Common sense tells us that when we have high unemployment, Importing people who need work is STUPID. WE ARE over capacity. Gee, how Could we have been so silly? Or , is there an agenda? Every Trade agreement has hurt us, yet, none are in danger of being repealed. When observed reality ALIGNS with the things that the crazy conspiracy theorists say, maybe it is time to stop sneering and start listening. The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with a national . Sorry buddy...... My"honestly" was tongue in cheek   :-[ I am in total agreement with your observation. I am amazed how many "believers" are really only believing, out of convenience..... If believers acted as they are taught ( scriptural ) the charge of hypocrisy would not stick  ;D As to your other points..... A void must exist, be it a natural occurrence from evolving, or man made, by design or misstep, that allows energy to try and fill it. JOG, I am not sure if man really has the intellect,  and capacity, to fill such a void, in a wholesale manner..... If we could somehow except the fact each one of us is a unique creation, and instead of trying to force our uniqueness into a commonness, as one..... We just accept the simple fact, or I see no real solutions of harmony in this world. We can give our efforts names, and assign valuations to it, yet, at best, it is a circle argument and has no beginning, or resolution, as different races, and cultures, step into this argument (circle) predicated on where they are presently at in their quest to assign meaning, and riddle solutions, to their "self".

Title: Re: The Revolution grows evermore....... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/27/16 at 17:36:42 All of life's pains and sorrows have been with us since the beginning. Every generation has its Failure to Launch kids. In time past, where opportunity didn't exist, people left, and took risk, and Tried to carve out a life. I understand that people Want to come here. Just as shipwrecked swimmers Want in the lifeboat. And, the HEARTS of those IN the lifeboat Want to haul them aboard, but when the number Inside the boat begin to exceed the ability of the boat to support, yielding to the heart means EVERYBODY IN THE BOAT, winds up swimming. Funny how the The world is overpopulated crowd believe that the Planet can't support all of humanity, Yet, the ability of America to adopt everyone who can get here is endless. The logical disconnect is mind . Topic Summary - Displaying 14 post(s). Posted by: raydawg      Posted on: Yesterday at 17:56:49 justin_o_guy2 wrote on Yesterday at 17:14:55: Yeah, Ray, seriously, to be honest with you, truthfully, . And I finally went to read the stuff in your original post. The first one, I survived that. Second one, I made it past here. What you notice first about Trump is his xenophobia, but he also speaks more about corruption than immigration. Do people who live in a high crime zone and put bars on the windows and dead bolts on the doors have Kleptophobia? Xenophobia? xen·o·pho·bi·a [ch716]zen[ch601][ch712]f[ch333]b[ch275][ch601],[ch716]z[ch275]n[ch601][ch712]f[ch333]b[ch275][ch601]/ noun intense or irrational dislike or fear of people from other countries. Wanting to stop the influx of people from other places while that influx is damaging the economy for everyone who is here is not fear of or hatred for other nationalities. There's a reason for the signs that say Capacity 250 By the door of the meeting room at t h e Hilton. Common sense tells us that when we have high unemployment, Importing people who need work is STUPID. WE ARE over capacity. Gee, how Could we have been so silly? Or , is there an agenda? Every Trade agreement has hurt us, yet, none are in danger of being repealed. When observed reality ALIGNS with the things that the crazy conspiracy theorists say, maybe it is time to stop sneering and start listening. The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with a national . Sorry buddy...... My"honestly" was tongue in cheek   Embarrassed I am in total agreement with your observation. I am amazed how many "believers" are really only believing, out of convenience..... If believers acted as they are taught ( scriptural ) the charge of hypocrisy would not stick  Grin As to your other points..... A void must exist, be it a natural occurrence from evolving, or man made, by design or misstep, that allows energy to try and fill it. JOG, I am not sure if man really has the intellect,  and capacity, to fill such a void, in a wholesale manner..... If we could somehow except the fact each one of us is a unique creation, and instead of trying to force our uniqueness into a commonness, as one..... We just accept the simple fact, or I see no real solutions of harmony in this world. We can give our efforts names, and assign valuations to it, yet, at best, it is a circle argument and has no beginning, or resolution, as different races, and cultures, step into this argument (circle) predicated on where they are presently at in their quest to assign meaning, and riddle solutions, to their "self". Whaaaat?

Title: Re: The Revolution grows evermore....... Post by raydawg on 02/28/16 at 07:33:42 Theories....... Man's interpretation of life, etc, is his own belief verbalized as a theory.   You put up a lot of links to theories  ;D

Title: Re: The Revolution grows evermore....... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/29/16 at 19:56:02 I point out where the Theories of others look to have been adopted and put into practice. Of course, a smiley face will protect the masses from the Policies enacted based on a concept, or, theory. Apparently the title Theory allows otherwise intelligent people to pretend that Observed Reality is just an accident

Title: Re: The Revolution grows evermore....... Post by WebsterMark on 03/01/16 at 05:37:56 Just like electromagnetic radiation manifest itself differently so too do world events. Jog sees conspiracy at every turn like night vision goggles see infrared, but there's other spectrums out there you turn a blind eye to. I guess we all put on whatever filter we want to in order to discern the  truth that makes sense for us based on our understanding of the world. Sure, people, nations, conspiracy to affect events on occasion, but mostly people and nations act selfishly to protect themselves. They work with one another as long as it's within their own interest to do so. Alpha males don't play well with one another so the idea hundreds of influential people get together and manipulate events by sticking to Rube Goldberg type master plans is not credible. Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan pledging support to Democrats in order to thwart Donald Trump is not part of a master plan; it's power happy politicians trying to maintain their positions.

Title: Re: The Revolution grows evermore....... Post by justin_o_guy2 on 03/01/16 at 17:04:19 Having read the synopsis of the Cloward and Piven proposed strategy to guide society toward Their groups desired goals AND looking at the society we see today, is it not odd how the events of the day so beautifully Mirror what was the stated goal? Ohh, and the trade deals, all damaging our economy. Ohh,and schools, stay away from the information about How that happened.

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