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Title: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Rayven on 05/18/16 at 07:33:00 How silly is all of this when even "natural born women" cannot use the ladies room because they don't look like a stereotypical woman? https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/women-harassed-in-bathroom-for-appearing-205610620.html |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by old.indian on 05/18/16 at 07:48:49 I agree with you Rayven.... The entire situation is beyond stupid... |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Serowbot on 05/18/16 at 08:05:21 What Conservatives aren't getting, is... government directing a person to a specific bathroom is the "Big Brother" intrusion... It is the upsetting of the applecart. Things were fine before. This political football is yet another manufactured outrage that conservatives didn't know they had until it was shoved up their arse's by political hacks... Stir the pot of bigotry and prejudice to get out the vote in the Party of hate... Add it to the anti immigrant, anti black, anti Muslim, anti women, stew... The puppetmasters are pulling your strings again... |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by DesertRat on 05/18/16 at 08:32:56 Rayven, I'm interested in what your actual position is on a gender neutral, unisex, family restroom. |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by DesertRat on 05/18/16 at 08:34:36 Bot, I tried to get my partners position on the subject and the only thing she could muster was being pissed off that big brother was handing down another dictate. |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Rayven on 05/18/16 at 08:39:32 I agree with you about the political nonsense Bot, but I would not say things were fine before. I have had friends in similar situations to some of those women in that story I posted, before any of this gender neutral bathroom stuff was major news. I've had a couple of girl friends who, lets just say, don't wear dresses and have very short hair. On multiple occasions over their adult lives have literally had to lift up their shirts and flash people to prove that they were women and that it was acceptable for them to be in the ladies room. It's just nonsense... If you go camping and need to gooo, do you look for the mens tree vs. the ladies tree? I don't think so. You just find a spot and do your business. I just wish people would take off their silly blinders. We're all human, we all go, why should it matter where? |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Rayven on 05/18/16 at 08:41:05 " 240513051214320114600 wrote:
I am all for it. I think it's silly that it is even an issue honestly. |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Serowbot on 05/18/16 at 08:49:39 +1... :-? |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by DesertRat on 05/18/16 at 09:47:48 Rayven, In your examples, these women had to flash other women to prove gender before they could relieve themselves? |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by WebsterMark on 05/18/16 at 09:56:49 I've had a couple of girl friends who, lets just say, don't wear dresses and have very short hair. On multiple occasions over their adult lives have literally had to lift up their shirts and flash people to prove that they were women and that it was acceptable for them to be in the ladies room. I'm throwing the yellow bull$hit flag. |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Rayven on 05/18/16 at 09:58:22 As absurd as it sounds, yes they did. And not just flash women, men as well, who were concerned about a "man" going into the ladies room. When I say they had to flash them, I don't mean that someone said something so they turned around a lifted up their shirts, they have been physically grabbed and yelled at by people insisting they cannot go in there. |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Rayven on 05/18/16 at 09:59:06 " 477572636475625D71627B100 wrote:
Excuse me?! |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Rayven on 05/18/16 at 10:12:14 Let me see if I can put this in a way you can understand. I have some friends who in some ways resemble this gorgeous woman (her name is Ruby Rose in case you don't know). http://i64.tinypic.com/2ppbg21.jpg There have been times in public where they have not had makeup on (some don't wear it ever), a baggy t shirt and jeans, and are frequently mistaken for an "effeminate" man. It would appear people (from what I can tell, who are not much different from you ;)) find it necessary to assert themselves and try to control a situation they should just keep their noses out of. |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by DesertRat on 05/18/16 at 10:36:05 Rayven, don't mind WebmasterMark, he works for the ministry of truth ... as for your examples, both men and women were confronting these women who's outward appearance made it hard to determine gender, and these human beings had to prove gender before they could pi$$ and S#it? |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Rayven on 05/18/16 at 10:44:10 " 002137213630162530440 wrote:
Haha, I'll keep that in mind. Yes that is correct. It wasn't so much that these people were asking these women to prove themselves, as much as they were simply telling them they weren't allowed to go/be in there, to which my friends deemed it necessary to prove their womanhood by what was under their shirts. |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by old.indian on 05/18/16 at 11:09:55 1966 and lying in a rice paddy, I would have been thrilled to be informed that in 2016 I would be alive with a son, a daughter and grandchildren. I'm not sure what my reaction IN 1966 would have been to be informed that my daughter has a tattoo and my son has an ear ring.... :-? But that was 50 years ago, and a great number of things have changed. Some for the better, some for the worse, and some the jury is still out on.... :-/ FYI: In the opinion of this older male, Ruby Rose is a very attractive young lady.. My wife wears her hair short, wear slacks (I don't think she owns a dress), and has a small tattoo. 8-) I have NO tattoos, very little hair and my body piercings came with a certain amount of pain and required medical attention. |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by raydawg on 05/18/16 at 11:27:57 Some round here might need to pull down their britches and show em lil' willie, to gain access to a urnal, as they sure act like puzzies ;D |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Rayven on 05/18/16 at 13:22:58 Old.indian it might not be such a bad look for you ;) http://i66.tinypic.com/261jgxk.jpg Raydawg ;D ::) :-X |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by WebsterMark on 05/18/16 at 18:49:19 u 30031B14070C5B52620 wrote:
Excuse me?! [/quote] Bull$hit flag as in 15 yard penalty for an infraction. I don't believe you had a couple of friends on multiple occasions ask to prove their gender in a men's room. I travel for work an average of 3 days per week all across the country. So I eat in restaurants, bars, dinners, hotels, etc...probably 9 times a week for more or less the past 25 years and I don't recall ever seeing a person questioned in a bathroom about gender. Never. I've seen plenty of women duck into the men's room, usually at night in a bar to escape the line for the woman's room, but thats not what we're talking about now is it? You guys (oh sorry, I mean humans of self-proclaimed gender identity which may or may not match their plumbing) are missing the point. This is an issue the left is using to force the hand of the right knowing what passes for IQ on the left, will be easily manipulated. But like the crime from illegal immigrants, little girls being accousted or photos showing up online will just be another thing we deal with. And for what? |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by old.indian on 05/18/16 at 19:03:56 WebsterMark: Sorry to tell you this Sunshine, but it HAS HAPPENED recently in two of the local casinos here in New Mexico where females were challenged before entering the ladies' room.... NO, I was not a witness, but I was informed by creditable ladies who were. (My wife's bridge club. i.e. L.O.L.s who hang out at the slots...) |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Ruttly on 05/18/16 at 20:21:11 Damm , Whatever happened to looking for the Adams Apple ? |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Ruttly on 05/18/16 at 20:33:59 Leaning towards the yellow flag on this one. Where's Justin ? Resigning his bathroom ? |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/18/16 at 20:48:17 I guess Janet Reno will be going out behind a tree. |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Ruttly on 05/18/16 at 21:22:43 I knew you were lurking ready to strike. You mean Hilary's tree? |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/18/16 at 22:25:37 4F68696971641D0 wrote:
DUDE! I didn't Know about that when I was a young man. If not for a coupla guys who lived in the area, my dumb hitchhiking butt woulda got picked up by a Seriously Cute guy.. Nice legs,and, hey, I wasn't exactly in a hurry. So, the Waitress walks away, guy hops from a nearby table, sits just long enough to say, Dude, look at the hands and adams apple.. Kinda threw up in my mouth a little... Finished my beer. And Then the fun began. Got a ride from two guys in a van. They scared the crap outta me.. Hitchhiking in south Louisiana in the middle of the night. Whewww... |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by WebsterMark on 05/19/16 at 04:27:03 342B2D2A3730013101392B276C5E0 wrote:
Ha ha ha!!!! Literally laughed out loud! |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by raydawg on 05/19/16 at 05:18:11 Why is it guys can dig on two chicks going at it, but throw an attitude if it's two guys? I mean sea men don't float my boat, but this ok with one, and not the other mentality is exactly how the liberals act re: tolerance of conservative, ain't it? |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by raydawg on 05/19/16 at 05:18:56 536166777061764965766F040 wrote:
Ha ha ha!!!! Literally laughed out loud![/quote] Janet would never be asked to prove she is a man :o |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Paraquat on 05/19/16 at 06:15:21 7A656364797E4F7F4F77656922100 wrote:
You've told this story before and every time it makes me think of Uneasy rider '88. Makes me chuckle. --Steve |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by old.indian on 05/19/16 at 06:53:24 Since I have zero, zip, nada personal experience with the goings on in a Ladies Room, I'll take Rayven's word at face value..... Since WebsterMark, JOG, Ruttly and raydawg are disagreeing with her, I must assume that they do so based on their personal experiences... |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/19/16 at 07:27:59 It was a solo trip, back to Thibodeaux La. I was excited about it. And, all that Stuff happened. The guys in the van were acting weird, whispering to each other, I stuck my bag against the sliding door, so it would fall out when I threw it open to jump.. They had me studying the situation, I spotted a cooler, still had icy water, I was gonna soak the driver, hoping to force the other guy to grab the wheel. Knock the crap out them, and, out the door. I think they were just having fun, but, at the time, it was scary. |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Rayven on 05/19/16 at 07:50:09 "I don't believe you had a couple of friends on multiple occasions ask to prove their gender in a men's room. But like the crime from illegal immigrants, little girls being accousted or photos showing up online will just be another thing we deal with. And for what?" OK. 1. I said they had to prove their gender in the LADIES room, and they were women. To men and women like you who are worried about little girls being victims all the time. 2. As you fail to understand and properly respond to in previous "conversations" (if someone can have conversations with a stubborn mule ::)), are you not worried about little boys being victims here? Why aren't you also concerned with women being predators? WHY is it that YOU are only ever concerned with men pretending to be women to get access to the womens room to take advantage of little girls? I think you need to open your eyes a little bit sir and understand what I have tried to tell you many times already. A PREDATOR WILL FIND A WAY TO PREY ON SOMEONE REGARDLESS OF THIS STUPID BATHROOM BILL. GENDER NEUTRAL BATHROOMS WILL NOT MAKE OR BREAK A PREDATOR. Have predators not existed before now? AGAIN let me say to YOU, I am not saying some predator will not take advantage of this because I am sure they will, BUT they are going to prey on people regardless of this bathroom. Once more AGAIN I am going to tell you this, IF YOU DON'T THINK MEN WOMEN AND CHILDREN ARE ATTACKED IN BATHROOMS NOW AND IN THE PAST YOU ARE BLIND TO A BIGGER PROBLEM WITH OUR SOCIETY. One more thing I've tried to tell you that you have failed to respond to, if men and boys attacking women and girls is our big problem here, then maybe we should consider addressing rape culture and raising ours sons to look at women a little differently, instead of raising our daughters and telling them they will be victimized. |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Rayven on 05/19/16 at 07:54:21 One more thing Web... Since you have never witnessed a woman go through what my friends have gone through so you don't beileve it has ever happened... Why is it so easy for you to believe that men are going into the ladies room taking photos of little girls? Have you SEEN that happen? Seems you have a chronic case of picking and choosing what you want to believe, based on nothing... |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by WebsterMark on 05/19/16 at 08:50:50 As you fail to understand and properly respond to in previous "conversations" (if someone can have conversations with a stubborn mule Roll Eyes), are you not worried about little boys being victims here? Why aren't you also concerned with women being predators? WHY is it that YOU are only ever concerned with men pretending to be women to get access to the womens room to take advantage of little girls? I think you need to open your eyes a little bit sir and understand what I have tried to tell you many times already. While I'm sure that happens, its rare compared to the other way. Men are far, far more likely to be sexual predators. Don't hear too many stories about nuns having their way with little alter boys do we?... A PREDATOR WILL FIND A WAY TO PREY ON SOMEONE REGARDLESS OF THIS STUPID BATHROOM BILL. GENDER NEUTRAL BATHROOMS WILL NOT MAKE OR BREAK A PREDATOR. You put locks on your doors to make it harder to be victimized, but you know if someone really wants in, they'll find a way. You want to take the locks off and I have no idea why. What do we gain? And, by the way, if it's your point of view laws like this are worthless because a predator will always find a way, I'm assuming you are a strong advocate of limited gun control laws because "A PREDATOR WILL FIND A WAY TO PREY ON SOMEONE REGARDLESS". One more thing I've tried to tell you that you have failed to respond to, if men and boys attacking women and girls is our big problem here, then maybe we should consider addressing rape culture and raising ours sons to look at women a little differently, instead of raising our daughters and telling them they will be victimized. I'm not suggesting we tell girls they'll be molested in a Target bathroom, but the simple fact is women and men are different. Woman have to be more aware of their surroundings then men. That's just a fact of life. I don't pay too much attention to where I park, what time I go out etc..., but woman do. They should. I have a 28 year old son and a 22 year old daughter. I treated them fairly growing up, but I didn't treat them equally. The world's an ugly place sometimes. Really ugly. You know when parents tell children there's no such thing as monsters? They're lying. If you don't know that yet, consider yourself lucky. |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by WebsterMark on 05/19/16 at 08:58:10 One more thing Web... Since you have never witnessed a woman go through what my friends have gone through so you don't beileve it has ever happened... Why is it so easy for you to believe that men are going into the ladies room taking photos of little girls? Have you SEEN that happen? Seems you have a chronic case of picking and choosing what you want to believe, based on nothing... Raven, like I said, I'm 55 years old. I've been in just about every life circumstance possible. I've been dirt poor with no food and been well off. Traveled just about everywhere and done just about everything. I know people, I know the country. No, I've never personally seen that occurring. I would be in jail for murder if I had. Children need to be protected. What was the whole Catholic priest fuss about if not that? And yes, go ahead and shout out "male chauvinist pig", but women need an extra layer of protection. |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by DesertRat on 05/19/16 at 09:14:50 Mark, you are propagating weakness ... and are seriously brainwashed ... |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Rayven on 05/19/16 at 09:17:59 "Don't hear too many stories about nuns having their way with little alter boys do we?... " Men and boys are just as often molested and raped. You don't ever hear about, because they are afraid to come forward due to the fact that it proves them less manly. I'm assuming you are a strong advocate of limited gun control laws I support the second amendment and I own a gun. I enjoy going to the shooting range. I do believe there are people who should not own guns, and I think that a training course that issues a license (much like MSF courses) could be very useful things, and not just for a concealed carry. However, just like motorcycles, not everyone with one is going to have a license, and if they got caught you get in big trouble. I'm not suggesting we tell girls they'll be molested in a Target bathroom, but the simple fact is women and men are different. Woman have to be more aware of their surroundings then men. That's just a fact of life. I don't pay too much attention to where I park, what time I go out etc..., but woman do. They should. That last part really troubled me. Yes women do have to pay attention to these things, HOWEVER they should not have to. Bringing me back to my point of raising our sons to respect women as equals and not as items for their enjoyment. You know when parents tell children there's no such thing as monsters? They're lying. If you don't know that yet, consider yourself lucky. Well lets just say I am not so lucky, and it has taught me that more than anything that some "men" need a "come to Jesus" moment. I am more than happy to show a man my knife or gun where the sun don't shine so he can learn a little respect if he thinks I am just some toy for him to play with. We need to stop the mentality of "boys will be boys" and teach our boys to respect each other and women. Rape culture is real. We need to teach more of our women to stand up for themselves and be strong and not need a man or anyone else to protect them. I can be a delicate flower, but don't think my thorns wont cut you the same as anyone else. |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Paraquat on 05/19/16 at 09:19:44 4B48400A4D4A404D454A240 wrote:
How presumptuous of you. We don't know that she identifies as a female. Make her show us the bits! (Kidding, of course) --Steve |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Paraquat on 05/19/16 at 09:30:18 003235242332251A36253C570 wrote:
Web - Sometimes you come across as a really pompous ass, and sometimes you say these things that... I don't want to call them "profound" but that really resonate with me. And I mean this as a compliment. My first roommate was a nice girl. Grew up in a gated community, without the gate. Very nice, isolated, private cul de sac where it was not uncommon that houses were a mil plus, in early 2000 money. She went to school to become a social worker. She was a crusader. Off to change the world for the better. She wanted to right every wrong, blah blah blah. She was also a space cadet. She'd leave her phone on the table at Wendy's to go to the bathroom and it'd be gone when she came back. Poor spacial/situational awareness, but her heart was in the right place. Street smarts and book smarts are two very different things. She was, as necessary for her degree, interning at a rehab center in Hartford and would get out around 11:30 pm- 1:00 am. She had sense enough to always make me pick her up. For all the good she wanted to do, there was still evil. Should she have had to worry about it? No. But did she? Yes. The world is not a nice place. --Steve |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Rayven on 05/19/16 at 09:38:07 Should she have had to worry about it? No. But did she? Yes. I completely agree with this statement. The only point I am trying to make is that it shouldn't be this way. Do I expect it to change over night? Of course not. Do I believe we should be trying to change how things are? Absolutely. We cannot make it a reality until we change the way we are doing things currently. |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Serowbot on 05/19/16 at 10:12:22 536166777061764965766F040 wrote:
Statistically speaking,... children are at most danger from their parents. Parents, relatives, and trusted individuals... The stranger danger is a rare bird... How do you fix that?... :-? |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Rayven on 05/19/16 at 10:23:49 "The stranger danger is a rare bird... How do you fix that?..." The cycle can be vicious. It starts with raising children to be respectable adults, so that when they are in the position of being the trusted individual they do trustworthy things. A lot of pedophiles (not all) were taken advantage of as children themselves. What we raise, we create. Some people can escape from that, some can't... |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by raydawg on 05/19/16 at 10:54:45 Odd in a weird sorta way...... We are talking about assumed risk, and assigning it a danger factor, based on mitigating circumstances. And forgetting we all ride motorcycles :o How you get to the hospital, is just a detail..... Is there anything new under the sun, or have people just decided to look at different things, and then base an opinion on their perception? Can't we all just listen to Bobbie McFarrin's Be Happy 8-) |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Rayven on 05/19/16 at 11:13:18 37243C21243222450 wrote:
*clapping my hands* ;D |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by DesertRat on 05/19/16 at 11:43:55 with 5 kids, 2 girls and 3 boys, they all got equal treatment. Taught about MUTUAL respect as HUMAN BEINGS ... better learn to cook clean forage work fight shoot and take care of yourself ... they all had self defense courses, karate and modern self defense, they all know how to shoot and clean boom sticks ... they all can build fires, cook, clean and dig fox holes ;) oh yeah and I taught them how to RIDE ... and drive trucks ... |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Rayven on 05/19/16 at 11:55:47 Right on Rat! |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by WebsterMark on 05/19/16 at 12:27:20 "Don't hear too many stories about nuns having their way with little alter boys do we?... " Men and boys are just as often molested and raped. You don't ever hear about, because they are afraid to come forward due to the fact that it proves them less manly. Just as often..... Holy Textiles Batman, we're gonna need more yellow flags! |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by WebsterMark on 05/19/16 at 12:28:33 260711071016300316620 wrote:
No on both counts. |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Rayven on 05/19/16 at 12:37:44 Mark, I almost feel bad for you. You are so blind to the real world around you. But hey, ignorance is bliss. ::) |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by DesertRat on 05/19/16 at 12:38:29 actually you are Mark ... any simple research into indigenous cultures proves your rebuttal false ... |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by WebsterMark on 05/19/16 at 12:45:11 14273F3023287F76460 wrote:
The fact you actually believe males and females are raped and sexually assaulted at the same rate pretty much says you are not just blind but delusional. Do you make up $hit like this all the time or is this just a red letter day for you? |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by WebsterMark on 05/19/16 at 12:47:25 537264726563457663170 wrote:
oh geez.....indigenous cultures crap...... Yea, because there's a direct correlation between tribes running around peeing behind trees and perverts crusing Targets.... |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by DesertRat on 05/19/16 at 13:00:56 7E4C4B5A5D4C5B64485B42290 wrote:
It is FACT Mark ... There are MILLIONS in the male population that are walking around as SURVIVORS of male on male and female on male sexual abuse ... 1 in 6 men, US male population: 151.8 million x 1/6 = 25 MILLION plus, and that's just in the USA ... You need to take a bunch of PSY classes, and a bunch more on human sexual behavior patterns ... not only that, you need to read up on gender equality, both the male and female side ... and grab a Bible and start reading while you're at it ... with all the religious and secular data on sexual abuse, and you still deny this ??? |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Rayven on 05/19/16 at 13:08:20 YES RAT!!!!! http://i66.tinypic.com/fjzuw4.jpg |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by WebsterMark on 05/19/16 at 13:18:24 It is FACT Mark ... There are MILLIONS in the male population that are walking around as SURVIVORS of male on male and female on male sexual abuse ... 1 in 6 men, US male population: 151.8 million x 1/6 = 25 MILLION plus, and that's just in the USA ... You need to take a bunch of PSY classes, and a bunch more on human sexual behavior patterns ... not only that, you need to read up on gender equality, both the male and female side ... and grab a Bible and start reading while you're at it ... with all the religious and secular data on sexual abuse, and you still deny this ??? Oh, great big bull$hit flag! 1 in 6 men have not been raped. Now, given liberals tendencies to expand meanings of words so as to reach epidemic proportions, have 1 in 6 men ever felt demeaned by a woman? Well, hell yea. And besides, Raven's ridiculous comment was equal numbers. Let me ask you Rat; what the % of gay men in the general population in the US? Don't look up anything, just tell me what you think it is, real quick after you read this. I'm heading out the door, check back later. Golly, hope I don't get raped by some frisky chick.... |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by DesertRat on 05/19/16 at 13:36:07 5E6C6B7A7D6C7B44687B62090 wrote:
WOW ... full of red herring ... the same can be said for women and men on the receiving end of demeaning behavior from BOTH sexes ... it's a HUMAN on HUMAN situation ... stop trying to split this as a gender specific issue ... it is not ... |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Rayven on 05/19/16 at 13:40:01 Raven's ridiculous comment was equal numbers. My name has a y after the a, just an fyi. They may not be equal numbers, but that does not mean that it doesn't happen. More men do not come out and report being molested or raped due to the fact that it not only makes them appear less manly if they are raped by a woman or a man, but also causes some conflict inside themselves about feeling that they are not a homosexual when they were raped by a man, or when a gay man reports a rape he probably deserved it because he's gay. Also, it is perceived more times than not, that if a young boy is approached for sex by a female teacher, babysitter, counselor or coach that it is a "high five" moment, when in reality that is also rape. I have to ask, what is it like to sit upon your high horse, know everything and consistently put people down for your own short comings? Golly, hope I don't get raped by some frisky chick.... As for this comment...WOW... I wish no harm come to you or your family, but god forbid if something along these lines ever does, I hope you feel great remorse for this very insulating and degrading comment to any human who has survived such an encounter. |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by DesertRat on 05/19/16 at 14:35:42 Mark works for the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministries_of_Nineteen_Eighty-Four#Ministry_of_Truth His job - Quote:
His tool box - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_techniques |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by raydawg on 05/19/16 at 15:07:16 Hey..... Can someone rape me..... At this stage of life it's just a way to tell I am still alive, AND, maybe we can sheit, and get off the pot. |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/19/16 at 15:29:03 I get to choose when I ride, where I ride. Might I ride through an area where everyone hates bikes and throws bricks at them? Possibly, but it hasn't happened yet, at least, not to me. A guy I knew did have stuff thrown at him, cracked the case, dripping oil.. The potential for danger is a given. Some places, some activities, our perception of an inherent danger has been with us even as children. The recent hoopla about using a public restroom, and Suddenly it's seen as such a potentially dangerous thing? Where do you think these people have Been going? Why should we expect to see any change in the behavior of people who need to pee? I don't understand why anyone would change how they respect others because Now it's a topic of discussion all over the place. What do people think? Why the hysteria? MUST we have a federal involvement to help people decide what door to go through? Pervs and creeps have been around forever. If you have a kid with you who needs to go, maybe you should go, too. Might hafta stand outside the door,, . There's no reason to believe that the restroom is SUDDENLY dangerous. The people who make up society were here and using restrooms Before the hoopla. It's looking like much ado about nothing. Someone said something about What's Really going on that this is a distraction from? The media was All, 24/7 Michael Jackson, pedo accusations, on and on and on,,, while in Florida, there was a meeting of global power brokers. That was not publicized more than a whisper. Why would EVERY news channel be covering the exact same thing? When the market is saturated with hot dogs, be the one who offers diversification. You know, the same concept that the left see as necessary for society. Be the one who offers the Other perspective, be the one who provides an alternative to every other News outlet. But , Nooo, they were in lock step. |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/19/16 at 17:16:02 You go, Rat.. George W. Bush. “See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda .” [ch8213] George W. Bush. tags: bushism. Gotta get people to understand the truth.. |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Paraquat on 05/20/16 at 09:07:22 Security Guard Arrested For Removing Man From Women’s Bathroom Photo of Peter Hasson Peter Hasson 9:35 AM 05/19/2016 Update: Metro PD confirmed to The Daily Caller that they are treating the incident as a “suspected hate crime.” A female security guard working at a Washington, D.C. grocery store was arrested Monday afternoon for physically escorting a man out of the women’s restroom after he refused to leave because he identifies as a woman. The shopper — a young, African-American male who identified himself as Ebony Belcher to local news outlets — reportedly passed the security guard on his way into the women’s restroom at a Giant grocery store in Northeast D.C. After seeing Belcher walk into the women’s restroom, the security guard followed him in and ordered the man to leave. When he refused, the security guard had to physically escort him out of the women’s restroom. http://dailycaller.com/2016/05/19/security-guard-arrested-for-removing-man-from-womens-bathroom/ --Steve |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Serowbot on 05/20/16 at 09:34:49 I get the feeling this a person that wouldn't go unnoticed in the Men's room either... Seems like unisex bathrooms would settle the issue... :-/ |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Meme on 05/20/16 at 10:16:09 3 bathrooms would fix the problem easily. Male, Female, and I Don't Give a crappity smack. But then, what would the extremists have to pregnant dog about? |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Paraquat on 05/20/16 at 11:13:10 042C242C490 wrote:
Give it a minute. I'm sure they'll find something. --Steve |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Serowbot on 05/20/16 at 18:19:15 Muslim bathrooms... ;D |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/21/16 at 08:16:25 I've Begged for the outline describing what society has to look like when they all exhale and declare It is done, society is set right, Social Justice Warriors have slain the dragons and killed,butchered and packed off to the freezers of hell the sacred cows of yesterday. Everything that once was wrong is now government sanctioned and anyone who doesn't like it gets fined, |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Serowbot on 05/21/16 at 08:40:02 302F292E33340535053D2F23685A0 wrote:
You have answered your own question, with your own bias... ;D How about, we all live together with mutual respect... :-? |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/21/16 at 08:52:45 Im DOWN with that. But the left will Not Have it. The baker didn't want to contract with the faggots. Why couldn't they go find someone else? But, NOOO, I'm gonna Beat you into submission. You WILL participate in my wedding, whether you want to or not! Yeah, that is being respected. Screw that. |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Serowbot on 05/21/16 at 09:10:21 What if there's only 3 bakers in town,.. and they all object?... Then, what if there's only one tux rental?.. Caterer?,.. Dj?,.. Wedding shop?... What if providers prejudice makes it impossible?... And should they have to go place to place in order to find service that isn't bigoted?... If a customer wants what you provide,... and is not being unreasonable,... you should serve... If you don't want to serve paying customers, you should find a new business... How about I decide I don't want to sell cake to fat people?... or people over 40?.... Replace gay with black,... and see if it sounds fair... Need I Google the "Whites Only" signs again?... https://www.google.com/search?q=whites+only&biw=1226&bih=615&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjisfjtndrMAhUCLmMKHSxeAUIQ_AUIBigB Discrimination, is not a right... :-? |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/21/16 at 09:13:41 What if didn't happen. There was no reason for suing. The SJW crap is about to my last nerve. crappity smacking live your crappity smacking life and leave others alone. |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Serowbot on 05/21/16 at 09:39:09 You see the issue very clearly from the bakers pov... You fail to see it from the customers... ...back up 60yrs... You are a black man traveling in the south with your family... you're tired, one kid is crying, it's hot,... and the diner in this Podunk town you're in says, "We don't serve your kind here,.. and the bathroom's for customers only"... "This gas is for white people only,.. go up the road and see if the nigga' family up there has some they'll sell ya'"... |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/21/16 at 11:26:38 I don't Fail to see anything. I see it all. Both sides. And the fact is, a Business Owner has the Right to do or not do as his conscience directs. You, as an atheist, are unable to grasp the true meaning of that. A Cake is not essential to life. We Arent in the sixties. Society, in general, is enlightened enough to be tolerant of the NEEDS of others. I don't think the baker would have let them starve or be stranded for want of fuel. A Christian would not. You pretend you're the arbiter of right and wrong, and have about zero grasp of property rights and contract law and how someone who sees the world and their place in it could be torn by a request. Don't you think they knew that, at best, they would fail to make the profit from the sale? Do you really think that, as a businessman, he looks for ways to avoid a Sale? Do you understand what level of conviction to stand for principle that took? No, because you can not understand Where it came from, nor are you able to delineate the difference between refusing services, as in, offering for sale to anyone, any product or service, OTHER THAN choosing to accept a contract to provide Material Support for the Holy marriage ceremony of queers. You people are bullies and ignorant of how things Really are. And I have explained this for the last time. Read it. |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by DesertRat on 05/21/16 at 16:12:39 just go pee in the bushes already ... sheesh ... ::) |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/21/16 at 16:23:42 Brilliant analysis. Ohh, so rarely are we blessed with such insight and depth. The absolutely Stunning display of intellect leaves me breathless. Where Is that standing O emoticon? |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by pg on 05/21/16 at 16:41:21 4D5B4C51495C514A3E0 wrote:
For a group who prides itself on progressive movement forward you spend an enormous amount of time living in the past. Incidentally, the people who founded this country wore wigs, you don't see that any more do you..... Best regards, |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/21/16 at 17:03:11 They are convinced that without their perpetual beatings over the yesterdays that society would fall immediately back into the past. I would undo those laws. Let people be. I don't think society would support openly racist companies. And, people ARE tribal. It'd be interesting to see how the minority groups handled it. Before we Helped them, they were more prosperous, fewer, by far, illegitimate births, insanely different abortion rates. LBJ hated blacks. So did the founder of Abortion is us. |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Paraquat on 05/23/16 at 06:10:51 A baker gets beaten into submission by the long arm of the law, yet Michael Moore can chose not to show his movie in North Carolina for their anti-LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ laws. Sounds fair. --Steve |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by old.indian on 05/23/16 at 07:15:15 1205030F0010620 wrote:
For a group who prides itself on progressive movement forward you spend an enormous amount of time living in the past. Incidentally, the people who founded this country wore wigs, you don't see that any more do you..... Best regards,[/quote] "Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it." My question is simply this. With all the social and economic problems this Nation has, why is the corporate media so focused on the rantings of a small number of bullies pushing their version of "Political Correctness" ??? Ever wonder what all this PC hoopla/bs is diverting public attention away from ????????? |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by Serowbot on 05/23/16 at 08:09:10 686B63296E69636E6669070 wrote:
...must be a Globalist conspiracy... ;D |
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Title: Re: Bathroom Vigilantes Post by old.indian on 05/23/16 at 08:36:34 1204130E16030E15610 wrote:
...must be a Globalist conspiracy... ;D[/quote] Sorry 'bot-ie , but I'll leave the conspiracy theories to others. What I do know for a fact is that the media is ratings orientated / obsessed and that more than one "spokesperson" has been known to brag how well they could control the press. And I doubt if you will disagree that there are more important issues to concern us than who is going in to which bathroom.. |
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