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Message started by Serowbot on 06/06/16 at 23:44:42

Title: Making America great again...
Post by Serowbot on 06/06/16 at 23:44:42

We'd all like America to be great...
...but, could someone point me to exactly when that was?...
When America was great?....
Not,... before this or that... or back when this or that...
Give a me a period of time... when America was great...
The time we want again...
Feel free to round it off to a year... (I don't need a month or day) (unless that period was that short)...
... just give me a year...

I think I missed it... :-?



Heck... I'd like the whole world to be great...
Can we do that?...
If I promise I can do that,... will you vote for me?... :-?
I don't have a plan or a clue... but I'll hire the best people to figure it out...
...and I'll make the rest of the world pay for it!...
It will be so amazing, ...you'll be blown away by how amazing it will be.

Vote for Sew !... as your write-in candidate...

A vote for Sew,... is a vote for, ...not those other guys...
... (that's my campaign slogan)... ;D
I will lead you like a m*f*ker.!...

Cum on,... somebody vote for me...
Just one vote...
How many people can say they were voted for President?...
Maybe we should have a vote exchange program?...  :-?...

It's a form of immortality...
...not the best one... that's a given... ;D


Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/07/16 at 03:48:38

You, WE, are much too young.
Gotta be Pre federal reserve. The numbers are not easy to find.
America GREW economically and people were prosperous.
Yeah, nobody had antibiotics and anesthesia was not very good,,
Hold that stick between your teeth.
The Left hadn't repaired our thinking yet.

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by raydawg on 06/07/16 at 04:59:51

How about a clever slogan.....

"Lost Hope, Change it Back"

You will never consider the fact that ideology produced Donald Trump.
When you have hate being exhibited against a hate monger, restricting free expression on campus and the political arena, etc.
When a system allows the candidate to go from dead broke to extremely wealthy but not stop on everyone else's doorstep....
And just plain physics..... Every action has a reaction.
Then this is our destiny.

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/07/16 at 05:11:57

If anyone is appalled by the fact that a Donald Trump is seen by so many as
What America NEEDS
then what they need to do is ask themselves why. Rather than see his supporters as idiots, see what his supporters are MOTHERcrappity smackING SICK TO DEATH OF.

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by WebsterMark on 06/07/16 at 05:27:23

Great is the enemy of good.

Your thinking is why liberals suck so much. You sound like Hopey-change on one of his world apology tours. Better yet, you sound just like Michelle Obama.

When was America great? When it gave opportunities to millions who crossed an ocean for a better chance. When it told the British we'll govern ourselves thank you.  When it wrote a document that was practically unheard of at the time; that Kings and Queens were no more, when we saved Europe (twice) from destruction, when the freedom of our culture allowed the genius of people to prosper and the ideas developed brought medical advances, science advances, economic advances and greater prosperity across the globe. And on and on and on and on...........

But, I started this with great is the enemy of good. And liberals like you will instead point to all the flaws that come along from being a nation of 300 million. Fine, go ahead. I have flaws, but my wife still stands by me. My wife has flaws (far fewer than me which I'm sure you would agree to that...) but I stand by her. My children screw up now and then, but I would still knock the $hit out of someone who attacked them.

I have no understanding of why a man such as yourself who enjoys a standard of living unknown to over half the world, if not an even greater number, can't acknowledge the greatness of your nation and wish to spread it across the world. Instead, for some inexplicable reason, you want to drag us and the rest of the world down.  

Why do liberals in general find the need to celebrate our few failures as opposed to the overwhelming amount of success?  



Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/07/16 at 05:48:16

Because, by God, we NEED to make sure that 1/2  of 1% of the mentally ill who can't admit that they are men must be accommodated and accepted and admired for their bravery and They are gonna scold me until I learn how to value them.
They have been Fixing society for decades. Ain't it grand?
A few more
It Should Be like This
ideas and we are toast.

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by Serowbot on 06/07/16 at 07:54:20

So far,...  we have narrowed those great days to be between 1750 and 1920...
We should probably take a notch out for the Civil War...  :-?

...and add the caveat that it only applies to white males born of some means...



I thought it referred more to perhaps the Eisenhower or Reagan era...
...or even,... Clinton...        (Sorry,.. did I say that out loud?)... ;D

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by raydawg on 06/07/16 at 08:04:41


7365726F77626F74000 wrote:
So far,...  we have narrowed those great days to be between 1750 and 1920...
We should probably take a notch out for the Civil War...  :-?

...and add the caveat that it only applies to white males born of some means...



I thought it referred more to perhaps the Eisenhower or Reagan era...
...or even,... Clinton...        (Sorry,.. did I say that out loud?)... ;D


Tom Brokaw makes a good case for the WW2 generation.

Not sure if you even believe yourself if nirvana is even possible....
But that ain't the gist of your post, is it.

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by Serowbot on 06/07/16 at 08:09:40

If Nirvana is possible, you have to be dead to there... ;D

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by pg on 06/07/16 at 08:50:44


5741564B53464B50240 wrote:
So far,...  we have narrowed those great days to be between 1750 and 1920...


Ok Bot, when was there a period in time or perhaps a country where more wealth was created and people had more freedom?  

Best regards,

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by Serowbot on 06/07/16 at 09:08:24

Maybe not your idea of freedom... i,e,.. guns, guns, guns... and right to be bankrupted by a medical crisis...
... but,... Denmark,.. now...
http://www.demos.org/blog/10/20/15/united-states-vs-denmark-17-charts

They have more free time, more money, more personal security and peace of mind...
Prettier girls...
http://https://s17-us2.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http:%2F%2Fdanemarca.dk%2Fwp%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F01%2Fdenmark-girls-300x208.jpg&sp=771b3f9319d5213d81809e966845f78d

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/07/16 at 09:43:17

And how much more like them have we become in the last seven years?

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by pg on 06/07/16 at 09:43:45

And how do they pay for it?  55% income tax, 25% sales tax, 180% value added tax.  I don't care to subsidize other peoples lifestyles.

What's stopping you, you already have British citizenship don't you?

Best regards,

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by Serowbot on 06/07/16 at 10:04:35

Who cares what percentage of income you pay in taxes.. if you still end up with more money to play with in the end?...
Danes have more financial security, more free time, and more cash to spend on vacations... better retirement, and better health...
... a better lifestyle...

I stay here,.. 'cause my bikes and friends are here...
Otherwise,.. I'd probably be gone.
I'm also too old to enter the Danish system...
... but,.. they are certainly doing something right...

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by HovisPresley on 06/07/16 at 10:22:01

This pic, with the Danish prime-minister, always makes me chuckle...

http://i63.tinypic.com/25jcn80.jpg

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/07/16 at 10:37:16

Michelle looks pleased..

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by raydawg on 06/07/16 at 10:48:06

Yep, those danes sure have a diverse society.....

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 06/07/16 at 13:25:27

Last comment said it best.  All of the Scandinavian countries don't have to deal with what we have - a permanent underclass that defies all attempts to remedy their poverty, crime, and split families.
Look also at Switzerland, which is really the happiest country in Europe.  Same thing - except for the 20% that speak French instead of the majority language, German, a very homogeneous country with no racial tensions nor strife.
When we we a great nation?  I say between the end of the Civil War, thru the 1950s, perhaps into the 60s.  A century during which more wealth was created, more industry was created, more jobs were created, more advancements in medicine were created than any previous century in the history on mankind, and we saved Europe TWICE from destruction.  What more could you want?

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by pg on 06/07/16 at 14:24:10


3F303C363D303B373027323027550 wrote:
 All of the Scandinavian countries don't have to deal with what we have - a permanent underclass that defies all attempts to remedy their poverty, crime, and split families.


Precisely why socialism won't work in the US.  What % of the US do you think would fall into that category.

Best regards,

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 06/07/16 at 14:26:33

About 20%, give or take a little.

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/07/16 at 14:28:28


5C4F574A4F59492E0 wrote:
Yep, those danes sure have a diverse society.....



Every now and then, you just straight up Nail it..

They have an obligation to import some folks..

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by raydawg on 06/07/16 at 15:52:27


524D4B4C51566757675F4D410A380 wrote:
[quote author=5C4F574A4F59492E0 link=1465281882/15#16 date=1465321686]Yep, those danes sure have a diverse society.....



Every now and then, you just straight up Nail it..

They have an obligation to import some folks.. [/quote]

Can I shoot for two?

And Bot wants us to emulate that....
So much so he would consider moving there.

DANG, maybe he very well could, ya know....
Help them to build a wall to keep all those folks like him wanting to sponge off of them, out.

Golly, I think I heard some dude on FOX mutter the same stuff while he is running for president.

Great thing about a liberal mind is you can just think it, then feel good, but never have to pencil it out to see if it really is doable.

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by Garry on 06/07/16 at 16:12:18

I belong to a motorcycle club in Australia. One of our members was hounded out of the club yesterday for expressing the very same concerns regarding Australia as you guys are doing here. This, in my opinion, is why the battle is already lost in Australia. If people don't toe the left wing line in Australia they are now marginalised by the herd! They can also be sued under a piece of legislation called 18C and lose everything they own if they are accused of being perceived of vilification. Very few here are willing to take the risk and simply mouth the PC platitudes that are the flavour of the day. At least you still have freedom of speech in the USA - please don't allow that to be taken from you as it has from us!

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by pg on 06/07/16 at 16:14:20

Thanks for posting Garry, they just don't understand.

Best regards,

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by oldNslow on 06/07/16 at 16:51:07


Quote:
Danes have more financial security, more free time, and more cash to spend on vacations... better retirement, and better health...
... a better lifestyle...

they are certainly doing something right...


Well, for one thing, they more or less agree with Trump when it comes to immigration, particularly Muslim immigration, now that they are waking up to the problems that an open border policy can cause.


http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/01/denmark-refugees-immigration-law/431520/

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by WebsterMark on 06/07/16 at 17:29:09


78747D747B4D0 wrote:
I belong to a motorcycle club in Australia. One of our members was hounded out of the club yesterday for expressing the very same concerns regarding Australia as you guys are doing here. This, in my opinion, is why the battle is already lost in Australia. If people don't toe the left wing line in Australia they are now marginalised by the herd! They can also be sued under a piece of legislation called 18C and lose everything they own if they are accused of being perceived of vilification. Very few here are willing to take the risk and simply mouth the PC platitudes that are the flavour of the day. At least you still have freedom of speech in the USA - please don't allow that to be taken from you as it has from us!

Liberals everywhere f'ing suck!

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by raydawg on 06/07/16 at 18:21:12


142621303726310E223128430 wrote:
[quote author=78747D747B4D0 link=1465281882/15#22 date=1465341138]I belong to a motorcycle club in Australia. One of our members was hounded out of the club yesterday for expressing the very same concerns regarding Australia as you guys are doing here. This, in my opinion, is why the battle is already lost in Australia. If people don't toe the left wing line in Australia they are now marginalised by the herd! They can also be sued under a piece of legislation called 18C and lose everything they own if they are accused of being perceived of vilification. Very few here are willing to take the risk and simply mouth the PC platitudes that are the flavour of the day. At least you still have freedom of speech in the USA - please don't allow that to be taken from you as it has from us!

Liberals everywhere f'ing suck!
[/quote]

A liberal is like a evangelical Christian standing outside a porn convention,waving signs and telling the adult entertainment industry partispants that they are headed for hell if they don't repent.....

While one of the guys waving his sign, whispers to his buddy sign waver, " Man, look at the jugs on that one, would love to go motor-boating with her!"

True story, just as I was typing this.
My wife just told me Mary, who she works with, a big liberal, hates believers, NRA, FOX, etc....
Just shared with her that she and and husband are going to go looking for a place to retire in Mexico.
She said you can get a maid for 20 dollars a day and stay drunk way cheaper than here.

Oh the irony......  ;D

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by Serowbot on 06/07/16 at 22:26:33


46554D50554353340 wrote:
A liberal is like a evangelical Christian standing outside a porn convention,


...and how is a raven like writing desk?... :-?

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by WebsterMark on 06/08/16 at 04:43:09


6A585F4E49584F705C4F563D0 wrote:
Great is the enemy of good.

Your thinking is why liberals suck so much. You sound like Hopey-change on one of his world apology tours. Better yet, you sound just like Michelle Obama.

When was America great? When it gave opportunities to millions who crossed an ocean for a better chance. When it told the British we'll govern ourselves thank you.  When it wrote a document that was practically unheard of at the time; that Kings and Queens were no more, when we saved Europe (twice) from destruction, when the freedom of our culture allowed the genius of people to prosper and the ideas developed brought medical advances, science advances, economic advances and greater prosperity across the globe. And on and on and on and on...........

But, I started this with great is the enemy of good. And liberals like you will instead point to all the flaws that come along from being a nation of 300 million. Fine, go ahead. I have flaws, but my wife still stands by me. My wife has flaws (far fewer than me which I'm sure you would agree to that...) but I stand by her. My children screw up now and then, but I would still knock the $hit out of someone who attacked them.

I have no understanding of why a man such as yourself who enjoys a standard of living unknown to over half the world, if not an even greater number, can't acknowledge the greatness of your nation and wish to spread it across the world. Instead, for some inexplicable reason, you want to drag us and the rest of the world down.  

Why do liberals in general find the need to celebrate our few failures as opposed to the overwhelming amount of success?  


Reposting this because all of you are missing a key point: America has always been great. We allowed the God-given genius of people to shine through because our system allowed men and woman to reach upwards as far as they could.

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/08/16 at 05:52:50

We used to lead the world in patents. After decades of
Fixing the Schools, mehh, notsomuch..

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by Serowbot on 06/08/16 at 06:48:41


526067767160774864776E050 wrote:
When was America great? When it gave opportunities to millions who crossed an ocean for a better chance.
...but, now that they come across the desert and have brown skin it's different?...


But, I started this with great is the enemy of good. And liberals like you will instead point to all the flaws that come along from being a nation of 300 million.

You blame our flaws on our size?...  Don't you argue that there is plenty for everyone?... food, space, opportunity, resources?...

Instead, for some inexplicable reason, you want to drag us and the rest of the world down.  

What policy do I support that drags us and the rest of the world down?...

Why do liberals in general find the need to celebrate our few failures as opposed to the overwhelming amount of success?  

Sorry, I don't see how I celebrate our failures...
Why do you wish to ignore them?...  Voltaire, who you quote, would have been very interested in trying to set them to right


..and finally..

Quote:
America has always been great.

????    Then why do we need to make it great again?...
Does "always"not include now?...
...and if it doesn't,.. when did that change?...(which is my originating question)....


What you wrote was elegantly composed nonsense...
I did like it,.. and it was way better than Trump could ever do...
...but, it was nonsense...

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/08/16 at 07:08:37

You know Bot, America is and has been Number One, according to every politician I've heard.
I'm pretty sure even Dear Leader has said it.
Yet, in spite of being number one, his Promises were many, and he kept two.
He promised to ruin the coal industry, and has just about gotten it done.
He promised to make Fundamental Change, and has.

Why would you make Fundamental Change in the Best?
That's Nonsensical.. And yet ,it's done.

Bringing refugees into a country suffering from high unemployment is BEYOND STUPID.
Bringing refugees who are sworn to Kill Christians, into a predominantly Christian nation?
Well, that's Literally SUICIDE...
There's part of what you support that is dragging America down.

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by Serowbot on 06/08/16 at 07:22:50


637C7A7D60675666566E7C703B090 wrote:
Why would you make Fundamental Change in the Best?

Why wouldn't you?...
If you want to be the best, you have to work at it.
Sitting back on your laurels while the rest of the world moves forward, will drag you into the stone-age...
Sh!t happens...   :-?

There's an i-phone 6 now ya'know?...
;D

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/08/16 at 08:30:56

When you Are Number One, tweaking the details is fine, but, maybe you don't understand what Fundamental actually means, so, I'll toss a clue,,

Fundamentals are foundational.
For the loud, unwilling to see the obvious, AMERICA is going downhill. Not saying Bush wasn't pushing on the yoke... HARD.  
We've been headed down since JFK. Before, actually, but Dramatically since.

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by pg on 06/08/16 at 16:50:29

http://img.ccrd.clearchannel.com/media/mlib/15172/2016/06/default/gop_primary_popular_vote_0_1465386905.jpg

I thought this was some pretty interesting material.  Sorry not sure why it is so big.  

Best regards,

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by Serowbot on 06/08/16 at 19:34:34

Wanna' bet?...
This is a new spin on the odds game... :-?
https://electionbettingodds.com/week.html

Title: Re: Making America great again...
Post by verslagen1 on 06/09/16 at 08:42:27

Total number of votes is worthless without knowing what the total number of voters is.
getting 1 billion votes isn't significant if there are 1 trillion voters.
FN stats.

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