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Message started by LostArtist on 06/14/16 at 20:34:42

Title: never worth it
Post by LostArtist on 06/14/16 at 20:34:42

sometimes I get down after hearing right wing fear/war mongering asshats talk as rude as they want, as loud as they want, they talk simply about complicated issues, like no one never thought dat dere before.  

I want to retort, to educate, but then, they think I'm condescedning (not with that spelling) them or being a know-it all, when I can just see a MILLION more possibilities than they can.  

It's no good, not worth even having a conversation about. believe what the big head on the radio/tv/internet that you already agree with tells ya, cause obviously that's all there is.


I'm done, sorry I ever bothered in the first place.

Title: Re: never worth it
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/15/16 at 01:17:49

You want WAR MONGERING? You think your precious democrats are not making a killing, killing?
I get bummed listening to people whine about exactly what they support.

Title: Re: never worth it
Post by pg on 06/15/16 at 03:02:02

Warmongering, how about Barry being the longest sitting wartime president in American history?  Yes, that is correct he earned that distinction.

Best regards,

Title: Re: never worth it
Post by raydawg on 06/15/16 at 03:44:35

Gee, I bet your gander really gets up when you hear of reports that the campus wants safe zones away from free speech and expression by those who hold a certain viewpoint, huh?

I hope this post is not deleted cuz someone might think its BS.

I feel your pain.

Seriously, you better not read any newspapers or listen to the radio, or watch TV..... this is going to get ugly.
Sad, yes, but how much have you too contributed to this outcome that you find objectionable in others?

Title: Re: never worth it
Post by WebsterMark on 06/15/16 at 04:16:58


74574B4C794A4C514B4C380 wrote:
sometimes I get down after hearing right wing fear/war mongering asshats talk as rude as they want, as loud as they want, they talk simply about complicated issues, like no one never thought dat dere before.  

I want to retort, to educate, but then, they think I'm condescedning (not with that spelling) them or being a know-it all, when I can just see a MILLION more possibilities than they can.  

It's no good, not worth even having a conversation about. believe what the big head on the radio/tv/internet that you already agree with tells ya, cause obviously that's all there is.


I'm done, sorry I ever bothered in the first place.


You get two BS flags for that! Oh, you can see a million possibilities I can't huh?  You're so great and wonderful and I'm a right wing fear/war mongering a$$hat.

You must put your $hit on apple pie cause it don't stink! Bit full of yourself aren't you Lost?

Just what are these awe-inspiring thoughts and solutions that only you have the mental capabilities to understand? Please, condesend to us peasants and show us just a fraction of your genius.

I await salvation, I've been living in darkness and you can deliver me. Tell me oh wise one.

Title: Re: never worth it
Post by raydawg on 06/15/16 at 05:12:11

Mercy, someone taint your wheaties this morning sweetie?  :-*

Title: Re: never worth it
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/15/16 at 06:23:19


342325292636440 wrote:
Warmongering, how about Barry being the longest sitting wartime president in American history?  Yes, that is correct he earned that distinction.

Best regards,


They live in a place of their own imagination. They were taught that they are the party of peace and they believe that whatever they do that is exactly correct. Facts can burn in hell. The Right is the war party.. But both sides are run by the same interests.

Just EXACTLY what policies would you expect from
The WORLD'S LARGEST WEAPONS EXPORTER?
Is conflict not good? If you're a Claw Hammer manufacturer
You wanna see stuff built, Lots of carpenters.
But we sell destruction. And we have a CIA that influences troublemakers, and starts rebellions. How stupid are Americans who actually believe that the Reason we couldn't locate the enemy, the enemy who have to have weapons,  food, fuel, everything ANY army needs, and Our satellites and spies could Not find them to bomb them until Russia left us some smoke trails to follow. We are responsible for a great deal of the turmoil in the middle east. If not all.

And Not One has explained General Wesley Clarke and the list.

Because it's not possible to explain it away. Unless someone is willing to accept the obvious.

Title: Re: never worth it
Post by LostArtist on 06/15/16 at 12:20:10

AT THE PRESENT TIME:

is it, or is it not true that the right wing media, and presidential candidate complaining about PC ruining America?  

Is it, or is it not true that the right wing clamoring for a stronger, more robust MILITARY effort to "destroy" islamic extremist terrorists?  

Is it, or is it not true that the right wing candidates for the president called for carpet bombing?

AREN"T ALL the attacks on me here from right wing conservatives???

and in truth, I'm not some crazy left wing nut, I'm not a democrat, last time I actually VOTED for the libertarian candidate Gary Johnson, and I might again this time.  

and even as I type those words, they are useless, you will all continue to see me as some crazy leftist commie bastard and you will continue to hate me.  As I said, it is USELESS to talk to anyone here.

now you may continue your circle jerk, my money is on webster to get off first and make a mess out of the rest of you



Title: Re: never worth it
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/15/16 at 12:38:56


4C5355524F4879497941535F14260 wrote:
You want WAR MONGERING? You think your precious democrats are not making a killing, killing?
I get bummed listening to people whine about exactly what they support.


A quick look and this is what I saw that I said in response. I will look again and see what attacks you've suffered.
That I don't remember your
Other Than Democrat
leanings , I'm sorry, but the stance Looks very much like what I expect from the left.  

What are the Right afraid of that the Left arent?
If someone suggests carpet bombing, what that means is
Let's go Win and Stop.
We shouldn't be there..

Title: Re: never worth it
Post by raydawg on 06/15/16 at 12:42:36

Ah......
One size fits all, eh?
Tell me LA, is that even fair?
How much do you really even know about everyone that you accuse of hating you?
Bot has talked up hate too, yet he preaches tolerance, how does that square?

I am an old fruck' man, I have made a mess of much, it is how I learned mostly......
In my years one constant observation I have discovered about myself, and in others, we seem to get our pannies most wadded when others act in a way that we ourself are guilty of, and that's the rub....

Hope you can ponder what I say then reply in a manner that brings you comfort without risking your buzz.

Title: Re: never worth it
Post by old.indian on 06/15/16 at 12:49:34


55766A6D586B6D706A6D190 wrote:
AT THE PRESENT TIME:

is it, or is it not true that the right wing media, and presidential candidate complaining about PC ruining America?  

Is it, or is it not true that the right wing clamoring for a stronger, more robust MILITARY effort to "destroy" islamic extremist terrorists?  

Is it, or is it not true that the right wing candidates for the president called for carpet bombing?

AREN"T ALL the attacks on me here from right wing conservatives???

and in truth, I'm not some crazy left wing nut, I'm not a democrat, last time I actually VOTED for the libertarian candidate Gary Johnson, and I might again this time.  

and even as I type those words, they are useless, you will all continue to see me as some crazy leftist commie bastard and you will continue to hate me.  As I said, it is USELESS to talk to anyone here.

now you may continue your circle jerk, my money is on webster to get off first and make a mess out of the rest of you

Like you I'm a registered Independent.       And like you, I get a bit tired of all the "bad a$$" who are more than willing to wage war with other peoples' kids' lives.    They are indulging in political rhetoric for the sake of getting attention.  "Carpet bombing" a piece of desert is a very expensive exercise in futility, for any number of reasons that any experienced military person knows.     Both sides of the aisle are espousing  the politics of fear.  "Political Correct" has become bullying one group's / minorities'  opinions/ social status on others as superior to the rest...  

"AREN"T ALL the attacks on me here from right wing conservatives???"

The large majority of members who come to this T.T. are "right wing conservatives"     Soooooo....
Cheer up... This election I'm casting my vote in the box labeled "None Of The Above"......

Title: Re: never worth it
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/15/16 at 13:03:02

I'm not seeing attacks.

Title: Re: never worth it
Post by WebsterMark on 06/15/16 at 13:30:37


6E4D51566350564B5156220 wrote:
AT THE PRESENT TIME:

is it, or is it not true that the right wing media, and presidential candidate complaining about PC ruining America?  

Is it, or is it not true that the right wing clamoring for a stronger, more robust MILITARY effort to "destroy" islamic extremist terrorists?  

Is it, or is it not true that the right wing candidates for the president called for carpet bombing?

AREN"T ALL the attacks on me here from right wing conservatives???

and in truth, I'm not some crazy left wing nut, I'm not a democrat, last time I actually VOTED for the libertarian candidate Gary Johnson, and I might again this time.  

and even as I type those words, they are useless, you will all continue to see me as some crazy leftist commie bastard and you will continue to hate me.  As I said, it is USELESS to talk to anyone here.

now you may continue your circle jerk, my money is on webster to get off first and make a mess out of the rest of you


I don't hate you Lost. I believe you thinking to be idiotic however.

I'm 55 and sitting in the ridiculously crowded Philly airport waiting for my flight home and no Viagra with me. If I could get it up, I wouldn't waste it on these TT clowns....,

Title: Re: never worth it
Post by verslagen1 on 06/15/16 at 13:31:54


2C3335322F2819291921333F74460 wrote:
I'm not seeing attacks.

you're calling him a liar... what a dastardly attack!

Title: Re: never worth it
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/15/16 at 13:34:11

Hmm, I'm just so busted...

Title: Re: never worth it
Post by LostArtist on 06/15/16 at 14:11:21


687771766B6C5D6D5D65777B30020 wrote:
I'm not seeing attacks.



you must be blind or you have a very tolerant sense of attack, especially if you agree with it.

Webster said I eat sh!t

rawdawg called me sweetie, now I'm going to have nightmares.  ;)

you, yourself accused me of thinking democrats are precious, you're kidding right, LBJ was aweful, Carter was a well meaning do nothing, as is Obama (mostly, but Obama inherited a huge foreign policy crisis which he hasn't been able to fix) Bill Clinton got lucky (a lot)  and even so, democrats are often the BETTER choice, if just barely for a social liberal (live and let live), mainly because the hyperbole the right wing media talking heads resort to is simply absurd and utterly unbelievable, Hillary may not be what you want as a president, but the things they've called her and Obama over these last few years, is really borderline treasonous. They should be glad that Obama has thicker skin than Trump, Trump is already compiling his libel lawsuit hit list.  

Title: Re: never worth it
Post by WebsterMark on 06/15/16 at 14:18:27

Webster said I eat sh!t

Actually, I didn't. I was pointing out how sanctimonious you sounded, so much so you were so pure, your $hit don't stink. Haven't you heard that before?

Title: Re: never worth it
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/15/16 at 14:25:31


53706C6B5E6D6B766C6B1F0 wrote:
[quote author=687771766B6C5D6D5D65777B30020 link=1465961682/0#11 date=1466020982]I'm not seeing attacks.



you must be blind or you have a very tolerant sense of attack, especially if you agree with it.

Webster said I eat sh!t


I think it's more hyperbole.


ou must put your $hit on apple pie cause it don't stink! Bit full of yourself aren't you Lost?

Just what are these awe-inspiring thoughts and solutions that only you have the mental capabilities to understand? Please, condesend to us peasants and show us just a fraction of your genius.

############

You seem focused on what you can get all butthurt over, and OBLIVIOUS to the opportunities to express what we, the unwashed, so Desperately Need to know.
I don't see many of the millions of complex ideas to resolve the problems.



rawdawg called me sweetie, now I'm going to have nightmares.  ;)

########
Well, Peaches, sometimes people Just like to get a bit of a dig in. Give him some slack, he Is Still in search of his much needed GL,




########

Typically, unless someone Starts with

I am independent or libertarian, and they start ripping the bubs, I figure they are dems. State your position, e k se someone will be guessing. Why would ANYONE guess the minority position?



you, yourself accused me of thinking democrats are precious, you're kidding right, LBJ was aweful, Carter was a well meaning do nothing, as is Obama (mostly, but Obama inherited a huge foreign policy crisis which he hasn't been able to fix) Bill Clinton got lucky (a lot)  and even so, democrats are often the BETTER choice, if just barely for a social liberal (live and let live), mainly because the hyperbole the right wing media talking heads resort to is simply absurd and utterly unbelievable, Hillary may not be what you want as a president, but the things they've called her and Obama over these last few years, is really borderline treasonous. They should be glad that Obama has thicker skin than Trump, Trump is already compiling his libel lawsuit hit list.  [/quote]


they've called her and Obama over these last few years, is really borderline treasonous.


And just how much criticism of Our ELECTED leaders is allowed?
When did the founders say that for the People to talk bad, make accusations of bad behaviour, and that's Treason?


Odd, and I see what they have done is Past the line.


Im curious about what you thought about Ron Paul ..

Now, this took a while. I won't appreciate it not getting the respect of being answered.

Title: Re: never worth it
Post by pg on 06/15/16 at 14:26:01


4651575B5444360 wrote:
Warmongering, how about Barry being the longest sitting wartime president in American history?  Yes, that is correct he earned that distinction.


And the biggest arms dealer.

http://ammo.com/media/images/infographics/obama-admin-earths-largest-arms-dealer-infographic.jpg

Best regards,

Title: Re: never worth it
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/15/16 at 14:52:07

What other simplistic claims will you be making? You do realize how far from the narrative that stuff is, right?  There's a chance that i s almost treasonous, just pointing out the Facts.

Title: Re: never worth it
Post by pg on 06/15/16 at 16:00:41


7B646265787F4E7E4E76646823110 wrote:
What other simplistic claims will you be making? You do realize how far from the narrative that stuff is, right?


Claims, no more claims.  

What narrative might that be?

Best regards,

Title: Re: never worth it
Post by raydawg on 06/15/16 at 16:02:14

For what its worth....

LA, I hope you stick around.
Yes, it can get snidely.
However, is that enough reason to be silenced?

I am a believer in the truth of Jesus.
I get all sorts of snide remarks, fairy tails, etc....
But why would I, or should I, let someone live in my mind rent free?

I use to love listening to Christopher Hitchens talk about religion, before he passed.
I think he was more agnostic, than atheist, but he was extremely thoughtful, well reasoned, and I welcomed the challenge to my faith/belief.
I sure as heck don't want to believe in something that is shallow, or so weak it can't stand to the scrutiny of inspection... this is what we are seeing in politics today.
Name calling, assertions, distortions, and absolving of themselves.
He asked questions I couldn't answer, yet, I had answer he couldn't understand either....

So please reconsider, all POV are valid and WORTHY, and should never be deleted, silenced, or censored..... IF we hold ourselves to the standards,  we impose on others.
Its crazy that our schools of so called higher learning have broken their own rules of tolerance.
If we allow all speak, no matter how ugly, to be spoken, it will soon reveal what is true and sustainable, or that which has to be constantly changed, amended, or altered, in order to satisfy the scrutiny and challenge to its truth.

Think about it, OK?

Title: Re: never worth it
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/15/16 at 16:22:25

He came in, got all butthurt, blamed people who were just treating him like everyone else, and, while Claiming to have bunches of good answers, has yet to answer any questions or explain Why my reply was not sufficient...
I am a Constitutional Conservative. The Answers need to be constitutional. Or, I'm gonna be pointing out how UnAmerican they are, like the notion that criticizing the treasonous actions of Bammy and Hillary as treasonous is ludicrous.

Wanna rassle me? Read it.. learn it, appreciate it.
Ray is right, hear everyone, not just the precious butthurt few.
Besides, it's not My fault they sat on a pole.

Title: Re: never worth it
Post by LostArtist on 06/15/16 at 18:58:10

nah, ya don't deserve it ....  

sorry I'm not jumping every two seconds to answer you, I do have a job, but yeah, I'm not going to answer you anyway, mainly just to get my dig in....

since you don't respect my time, you know doing real life things, I'm not going to respect your questions, jumping all over me before I even get a chance to look at the site again...  so, nah, ya don't deserve it

oh, and for the record, Web, now I'm being sanctimonious

but you're always right anyway so I'm not going to bother you no mo' you got it all figured out and know exactly who to blame for everything so have at it hoss.

bye bye now

:-*

Title: Re: never worth it
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/15/16 at 19:06:50

Mm mm. Mmwaaaaah.

Title: Re: never worth it
Post by Ruttly on 06/15/16 at 19:14:09

This country cannot function without war. It is what my mother would call a " nessecary evil ". Not always being called a war, just a police action , how else are we going to sell and ship all those arms. It's a business that no one wants to talk about or doesn't want it to be talked about. So just go to work and follow the pursuit of happiness/ignorance !

Title: Re: never worth it
Post by Ruttly on 06/15/16 at 19:18:14

There you go again Justin , how do you do it? Wow his panties are waay too tight ! LMFAO

Title: Re: never worth it
Post by Paraquat on 06/16/16 at 11:01:56

I've posted before about how the government bought brand new F35's and then sold them to Egypt.

I've also posted saying NATO countries should stop manufacturing arms if they were so Hell bent on peace.

I guess the leaders want the profits from selling arms, but the safety at home... This is a lot like bringing the war to the home front.


--Steve

Title: Re: never worth it
Post by raydawg on 06/16/16 at 12:54:28


3100130010140015610 wrote:
I've posted before about how the government bought brand new F35's and then sold them to Egypt.

I've also posted saying NATO countries should stop manufacturing arms if they were so Hell bent on peace.

I guess the leaders want the profits from selling arms, but the safety at home... This is a lot like bringing the war to the home front.


--Steve


Ok, then you are good with the gubbermint taking away people's right to own weapons too?
Just because you have them does not mean you will use them.
I hope I never have to use my fire insurance, etc, but just in case, I purchase it.

Title: Re: never worth it
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/16/16 at 14:02:25


53405845405646210 wrote:
[quote author=3100130010140015610 link=1465961682/15#27 date=1466100116]I've posted before about how the government bought brand new F35's and then sold them to Egypt.

I've also posted saying NATO countries should stop manufacturing arms if they were so Hell bent on peace.

I guess the leaders want the profits from selling arms, but the safety at home... This is a lot like bringing the war to the home front.


--Steve


Ok, then you are good with the gubbermint taking away people's right to own weapons too?
Just because you have them does not mean you will use them.
I hope I never have to use my fire insurance, etc, but just in case, I purchase it.
[/quote]

Part of me wishes I could understand how you can make that leap of understanding. The rest of me is glad I can't.
How pointing out that Nations building and exporting weapons of War is counter to the Mission Statement of the U.N. and conflating that to mean The People shouldn't be able to get guns is beyond me.

Title: Re: never worth it
Post by raydawg on 06/16/16 at 17:20:47


0A151314090E3F0F3F07151952600 wrote:
[quote author=53405845405646210 link=1465961682/15#28 date=1466106868][quote author=3100130010140015610 link=1465961682/15#27 date=1466100116]I've posted before about how the government bought brand new F35's and then sold them to Egypt.

I've also posted saying NATO countries should stop manufacturing arms if they were so Hell bent on peace.

I guess the leaders want the profits from selling arms, but the safety at home... This is a lot like bringing the war to the home front.


--Steve


Ok, then you are good with the gubbermint taking away people's right to own weapons too?
Just because you have them does not mean you will use them.
I hope I never have to use my fire insurance, etc, but just in case, I purchase it.
[/quote]

Part of me wishes I could understand how you can make that leap of understanding. The rest of me is glad I can't.
How pointing out that Nations building and exporting weapons of War is counter to the Mission Statement of the U.N. and conflating that to mean The People shouldn't be able to get guns is beyond me.
[/quote]

Business 101 buddy.
Look here.
Ivan sell you one savage for 10 million and then retire.
Chances are I will have a very hard time selling one, but all I need is just sell one....

OR

I can thousands of them at a fair market value, and then retire.

Which model seems like the best chance to succeed?

Jets, bombs, etc, all commodities.

Title: Re: never worth it
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/16/16 at 17:30:03

k, then you are good with the gubbermint taking away people's right to own weapons too?

You haven't explained how you conflate what he said with him being okay with taking the guns from Americans.
Your outlandish reach into what you call logic is ridiculous.
The U.N. supporting selling crappity smackING MILLIONS OF MILITARY GRADE WEAPONS  is Somehow correlated to citizens owning a few guns?
Dude, cut the end off an extension cord, strip it back a few inches, plug it in, apply the separated ends to each temple.
Hold, until you achieve consciousness..

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