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Message started by raydawg on 07/01/16 at 17:05:14

Title: I believe her.....
Post by raydawg on 07/01/16 at 17:05:14

I think Loretta Lynch is telling the truth.

I believe Willie is trying to use her for his own motivation, like duh  ;D

She has admitted it was a mistake.

Clinton's have never, ever, admitted anything........

I also believe she knows she is being held to a higher standard.

She represents her gender, as well as her race, and people are looking to find fault in that.

I think she will indeed do the right thing, for that very reason.

I too, believe that it might escape Barrack, but not Michele, and no way in hell will she allow the Clinton's to use either of these two people, at such a cost.....

Title: Re: I believe her.....
Post by oldNslow on 07/01/16 at 18:16:24


Quote:
I believe her.....


Please tell me you don't believe the part about "We only talked about golf and grandchildren..."

Clinton is on one plane. Lynch is on another plane. They run into one another at an airport and decide to meet on another, empty, plane, conveniently parked nearby.  So they can shoot the sh*t about nothing for a half an hour.

The only reason she is admitting it was a "mistake" is that they got caught. I don't think Lynch is very bright, but she's at least smart enough to recognise when shes's been backed into a corner.

Whatdaya think would have happened if no one ever found out about their little get together?


Title: Re: I believe her.....
Post by Serowbot on 07/01/16 at 18:39:27

It seems a bit public for intrigue,... what sneaky business could have been discussed that couldn't have been handled with a phone call?...

I think they're just friends...


...as a side note...
Today learned that Trump can't talk about his grand-kids for more than 10 seconds without getting bored...
Funny,.. he can talk about himself 24/7...  :-/

Title: Re: I believe her.....
Post by raydawg on 07/01/16 at 18:51:32

They both left their respective planes and went to another vacant one?

Title: Re: I believe her.....
Post by oldNslow on 07/01/16 at 19:28:21


45564E53564050370 wrote:
They both left their respective planes and went to another vacant one?


That's what Rush said he learned from an ABC news crew that was at the airport. CNN has the story different. According to them Clinton got off his plane and walked over to hers.

Take yer pick. ::)

Title: Re: I believe her.....
Post by oldNslow on 07/01/16 at 19:59:46

In 1999 President Bill Clinton appointed Lynch as U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of New York, a job she would hold until the end of the Clinton administration in January 2001.

In 2010 Obama appointed her to the same post.

In between she was in private practice.

Remember the scene from "The Godfather" where a guy asks Don Vito Corleone to help him out with a problem. Corleone agrees to help, and as they are walking toward the door, tells the guy, Someday - and it is possible that day may never come - I may ask you to do something for me. Do you understand?"

I can hear Slick Willie saying the exact same thing to Lynch way back in 1999. Sometimes sh*t just doesn't work out exactly the way you want it to though. :D


Title: Re: I believe her.....
Post by raydawg on 07/01/16 at 20:47:09

Rush's story is hearsay at this point, however, if that is fact, it puts a huge question into play..... rightly so, but not until its verified.

I get the relationships, that happens, its the nature of the system we presently have, that door swings both left and right.

I will bank my chips of her declaring publicly today that she will stand by the FBI report, when released.
She would have to buck the Director, if she recants, and from what I hear about him, he is a straight shooter, and is above party politics....
That is a pretty tuff statement by her....

I just hope the conservative/right/republicans don't toss it all away and demand a new investigation, that would give the Clinton's what they want, delay.... on suppositions of what they might have been talked about.

Lets get this thing over, win, lose, or draw......

Title: Re: I believe her.....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/02/16 at 03:14:30

If your wife is being investigated by the Sheriff's department and you somehow get a private audience with the District Attorney AND YOU'RE a very influential person who could make things good or bad For the DA, then you have at Least the Look of impropriety. It's not important what plane they were on, it only matters that they were alone, together, for thirty minutes.
Why did they DO that when a phone call would have been so much smarter? I don't know and don't care. It's done. They met.
Don't add to it. Don't take away from it. It IS exactly and only what it IS.  A meeting. A Very Improper Meeting.
She should be forced out, resign.

Title: Re: I believe her.....
Post by raydawg on 07/02/16 at 07:14:12


425D5B5C41467747774F5D511A280 wrote:
If your wife is being investigated by the Sheriff's department and you somehow get a private audience with the District Attorney AND YOU'RE a very influential person who could make things good or bad For the DA, then you have at Least the Look of impropriety. It's not important what plane they were on, it only matters that they were alone, together, for thirty minutes.
Why did they DO that when a phone call would have been so much smarter? I don't know and don't care. It's done. They met.
Don't add to it. Don't take away from it. It IS exactly and only what it IS.  A meeting. A Very Improper Meeting.
She should be forced out, resign.


Honestly Jog, I get that, but too, at that level of government, the sort of circus atmosphere surrounding it, ones good judgement can laspe.

I think she got played, duped, by Clinton.

Yes, I believe that WAS his intentions, not hers.

She got played by a White President for his own needs and wants, imagine that, its Willie's MO, dude.

I believe this is why she made her statement about accepting the FBI finding.
By this maneuver, she effectively abrogated herself from this issue.  

BECAUSE Billy boy, wanted to use this meeting to pick her poker hand, of a card, with his schmoozing, this drunk old man thinks he has, and it appears, he does, on many, women.....

OK, Jog, now since no one was there, the old man just set up a, he said, she said, scenario, yes?

Not talking about getting a monica, no, but he can say they DID talk about Hillary, and blow this whole investigation to kingdom come...

The Clinton's are the King and Queen of players dude.

Look at their political machine, the foundation, shaking down foreign leaders, and businesses, that they bad mouth, for money.  

Two hicks from the sticks, and we all got played. BIG TIME  ;D

Title: Re: I believe her.....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/02/16 at 07:38:26

Clinton May be the smartest president, EVER.  Much as I despise him, I always give people an Honest evaluation. I don't think she's as smart as he is, Hillary, I mean.. Lynch, I don't know about at all.

d, she said, scenario, yes?

Not talking about getting a monica, no, but he can say they DID talk about Hillary, and blow this whole investigation to kingdom come



AAAAAND, you just may be onto something there.

But, hash it out.. How does it work?

FBI recommends action....
How does he use the meeting?
Does he say she promised to block?
How does that help Hillary?

Title: Re: I believe her.....
Post by raydawg on 07/02/16 at 07:54:43


435C5A5D40477646764E5C501B290 wrote:
Clinton May be the smartest president, EVER.  Much as I despise him, I always give people an Honest evaluation. I don't think she's as smart as he is, Hillary, I mean.. Lynch, I don't know about at all.

d, she said, scenario, yes?

Not talking about getting a monica, no, but he can say they DID talk about Hillary, and blow this whole investigation to kingdom come



AAAAAND, you just may be onto something there.

But, hash it out.. How does it work?

FBI recommends action....
How does he use the meeting?
Does he say she promised to block?
How does that help Hillary?


Look how it is already ready being played by the DUMB FRUCK conservatives.....
They are crying FOUL and demanding a NEW investigation as this one is TAINTED.....

Really, HOW?

All the investigating and findings were already in the BOOKS by then.

Clinton only has to say, "Yes, I talked about Hillary. Told Loretta if Hillary went to prison, the grandkids, that she much adores, will surely miss their grandma."

Oh be still my heart strings......

However, damage done, Bill and Hill get a new investigation, which means they drag this out past the elections, which IS what they wanted, she gets elected by the stupids, and now she calls the repubs only interested in getting her, for being a woman, etc,  and not the welfare of the country.....

Smart, yes, Willie had her over a barrel, with blackmailing her and ruining her career.....

But I think Loretta tossed her hand to the FBI, even smarter.

It still cost her, and she knows it was dumb, but she mitigated those damages by her move to the FBI.

However, the stupid conservatives now hold trump ( not that idiot Donald ) and their desire to get Clinton makes them even stupider than they normally are.
They will give the Clinton's what they want, and Loretta will be the one to pay the price  >:(    

PS: They, the Clinton's really care bout dem Black folk, sure nuff.....

Title: Re: I believe her.....
Post by Serowbot on 07/02/16 at 08:28:04

Maybe the Rep's have given up on this election,... so they want to drag the investigation out to the midterm...
4 more years,.. 10 million more dollars... 1,000 more leaks...
That'll fix it... ;D

Title: Re: I believe her.....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/02/16 at 08:59:22

I know how hard it is to do, but Stopping seeing the bubs and dems as warring factions is necessary in order to understand what is happening. Both Sides have a vested interest in maintaining Status Quo. If you remember, the bubs Cut Ron Paul s throat rather than even try to
Beat the dems.

Title: Re: I believe her.....
Post by raydawg on 07/02/16 at 09:00:59


594F58455D48455E2A0 wrote:
Maybe the Rep's have given up on this election,... so they want to drag the investigation out to the midterm...
4 more years,.. 10 million more dollars... 1,000 more leaks...
That'll fix it... ;D


Yes, that too, as they are still infatuated with Willie slipping out of their grasp ( oh that just doesn't sound right  ;D )

Time they get over it, but they won't.
Many democrats hold the same attitude toward B2.

I so want uncle Joe to run....
He would win in a landslide  ;D
What perfect timing too, we need to step back and be able to laugh at ourselves, and he is a pro at it  :D

Title: Re: I believe her.....
Post by Serowbot on 07/02/16 at 09:15:24

Joe wins the, "Most want to have a beer with" category.
He always seems genuine and decent...
I'd vote for him...

Title: Re: I believe her.....
Post by raydawg on 07/02/16 at 11:18:56


6177607D65707D66120 wrote:
Joe wins the, "Most want to have a beer with" category.
He always seems genuine and decent...
I'd vote for him...


I would as well!

Title: Re: I believe her.....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/02/16 at 12:50:02

The importance of Hillary Not being indicted can't be overstated.
If you look up Arkancide you'll be able to understand how some people handle certain things.
Now, maybe, Juuust Maybe, Ol' Beyull, that gravelly voiced snake, decided to explain Just how important it is for Hillary to walk away from all this and simply Couldn't do it on the phone.
Everything is listened to and if Anybody is Gonna be listened to it's people like Bill... And If they Did go get on a different plane, then that was covering some tail. Why would they not Just simply Meet on his or Her plane? Unless someone was afraid of being taped? It just Doesn't add up until you start thinking about it this way.

Now, do we know for Sure that they both left their plane and got on another?
If he boarded her plane then she had an opportunity to set up a recorder. IF that's something she keeps handy. If I had a job like that I would.. Scribbling notes? Phhhht...

Bill will be running the U.N.soon after she is the electeDictator.

Title: Re: I believe her.....
Post by webbrob on 07/02/16 at 21:48:04


56455D40455343240 wrote:
[quote author=425D5B5C41467747774F5D511A280 link=1467417914/0#7 date=1467454470]If your wife is being investigated by the Sheriff's department and you somehow get a private audience with the District Attorney AND YOU'RE a very influential person who could make things good or bad For the DA, then you have at Least the Look of impropriety. It's not important what plane they were on, it only matters that they were alone, together, for thirty minutes.
Why did they DO that when a phone call would have been so much smarter? I don't know and don't care. It's done. They met.
Don't add to it. Don't take away from it. It IS exactly and only what it IS.  A meeting. A Very Improper Meeting.
She should be forced out, resign.


In the military, for fraternization cases, (screwing or associating with the help) just the "appearance of impropriety" is enough to get your thingy slammed in the dirt. It doesn't have to actually happen. >:(

Title: Re: I believe her.....
Post by webbrob on 07/02/16 at 21:49:34

gotta love the auto "beep" of censorship  8-)

Title: Re: I believe her.....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/03/16 at 06:05:55

A few years ago it would not allow petcock.

The appearance of impropriety is all over This moment.

She shouldn't have allowed him on the plane.
And WHY, if he so Desperately wanted to talk, didn't he call?
Maybe she wouldn't take his call?
Maybe he didn't want to talk on the phone.
She won't be indicted, not because there is no crime, but because her first defense witness is Obama. He Exchanged email with her. He Knew that was a private server.
Lynch isn't gonna allow her to be indicted. If it was you or me, Jail.

Title: Re: I believe her.....
Post by WebsterMark on 07/03/16 at 06:50:07

Trump posted a tweet that he'd heard fron sources that she will not be indicted. No idea if that's true but I'd say this comes to a conclusion this week.

Title: Re: I believe her.....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/03/16 at 06:54:57

Just looking at it is what tells me.. I never thought she would be. I Hoped, but I know better..

Title: Re: I believe her.....
Post by WebsterMark on 07/03/16 at 07:01:27

Crazy things happen and the country marches on. Remember Bush/Gore recount going on forever, Nixon Watergate on TV (black and whie ones!) all of 1968, Clinton's impeachment, plus recent events like Great Britian finding her balls, and read up on whats going on Down Under. Maybe it's just July 4th Patroitism but this nation has survived much worse than Hilary Clinton.

Hilary could get indicted and forced out. Sanders get screwed at convention and a Biden/Warren ticket emerges.

Title: Re: I believe her.....
Post by raydawg on 07/03/16 at 07:55:10


744641505746516E425148230 wrote:
Crazy things happen and the country marches on. Remember Bush/Gore recount going on forever, Nixon Watergate on TV (black and whie ones!) all of 1968, Clinton's impeachment, plus recent events like Great Britian finding her balls, and read up on whats going on Down Under. Maybe it's just July 4th Patroitism but this nation has survived much worse than Hilary Clinton.

Hilary could get indicted and forced out. Sanders get screwed at convention and a Biden/Warren ticket emerges.


The nation would survive, not sure about the rabid conservatives who still want to nail a Clinton ( oh goodness, that gives me bad visions ).

Yes, I would love to see a Biden/Kasich ticket, maybe even a Biden/Fiorina......
What a defining moment, AND message, that would provide to this F'd Up partisan, negative energy, that is consuming so many people.

Title: Re: I believe her.....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/03/16 at 09:37:59

I would see Bush in jail, it's Not partisanship for me or several others. It's simply right and wrong. Why is that hard?  

Title: Re: I believe her.....
Post by old.indian on 07/04/16 at 20:22:57

If you think about it, this gives Ms Lynch a out to get out of the spotlight with the least amount of damage to her reputation.    Her comment that she will abide by the judgement of the "Professionals" tells me that the Clintons are home free.          
My reasoning for this....  The FBI is a government bureaucracy staffed by those who depend political patronage for their career advancement.  A faceless, nameless bureaucracy will issue a press announcement  whitewashing the whole affair.     Any other result would immediately terminate the careers of those who allowed evidence of wrongdoing to result in prosecution.       You must keep in mind that this is the same Department of Justice that brought us "enhanced interrogations" "Fast and Furious" gun smuggling stings,  "no knock search warrants, Boston's Bulger era , etc. etc..    

Title: Re: I believe her.....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/05/16 at 00:01:30

Well,, it almost seems like you don't trust the
Inside D.C. crowd to investigate the
Inside D.C. crowd..

Title: Re: I believe her.....
Post by raydawg on 07/05/16 at 03:45:43


27242C6621262C212926480 wrote:
If you think about it, this gives Ms Lynch a out to get out of the spotlight with the least amount of damage to her reputation.    Her comment that she will abide by the judgement of the "Professionals" tells me that the Clintons are home free.          
My reasoning for this....  The FBI is a government bureaucracy staffed by those who depend political patronage for their career advancement.  A faceless, nameless bureaucracy will issue a press announcement  whitewashing the whole affair.     Any other result would immediately terminate the careers of those who allowed evidence of wrongdoing to result in prosecution.       You must keep in mind that this is the same Department of Justice that brought us "enhanced interrogations" "Fast and Furious" gun smuggling stings,  "no knock search warrants, Boston's Bulger era , etc. etc..    



Gee, do you think they might seal the findings for 50 years, are so, like the JFK'er?  ;)

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