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Message started by Serowbot on 07/11/16 at 23:23:11

Title: Socialism/Communism...
Post by Serowbot on 07/11/16 at 23:23:11

Brace yourselves...
I will expound tomorrow.

Teaser,..  what is Democracy?... or, a Republic, if you prefer?... :-?



BTW........ We have determined that this forum leans Right, and votes primarily Conservative, if not Republican...
...but,..on a surprising number of issues... I see liberal thought...
How many of you, vote differently than your core ideology dictates?...
We shall see... :-?

...to be continued...    

Title: Re: Socialism/Communism...
Post by Paraquat on 07/12/16 at 09:13:07

I don't get why I have to choose from broad sweeping generalizations instead of voting a la carte - (at the risk of repeating the Roman senate's mistakes).

Why can't I be pro Second Amendment, pro abortion, and pro homosexuality, but be opposed to war and increased military spending?


--Steve

Title: Re: Socialism/Communism...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/12/16 at 11:16:30

Our internal and external policy decisions are and Have Been made by people who don't care about the rights of the People for decades. Certainly since JFK.  
As Thomas Jefferson said, “An enlightened citizenry is indispensable for the proper functioning of a republic. Self-government is not possible unless the citizens are educated sufficiently to enable them to exercise oversight.”


Sadly, most believe themselves informed, when they're really just sufficiently propagandized to be able to stand on a Party platform and spout talking points and wave a finger in the air, admonishing the fools who believe differently. There are only a couple who agree with what I've been saying. And we are neither dems or bubs, and the dems and bubs have been in and out of power numerous times, NEITHER EVER REPEALS THE OTHERS LEGISLATION, but You believe that they Oppose each other.

And you call me delusional.

Title: Re: Socialism/Communism...
Post by Serowbot on 07/12/16 at 11:16:59

Works for me...


Title: Re: Socialism/Communism...
Post by pg on 07/12/16 at 11:33:13


594F58455D48455E2A0 wrote:
Brace yourselves...
I will expound tomorrow.


Whatcha got Bot?  Is there anything to follow?

Best regards,

Title: Re: Socialism/Communism...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/12/16 at 12:51:35


2036213C24313C27530 wrote:
Works for me...



You call that addressing ideas? And you don't understand why I get snotty? Nobody has ever been willing or able to address the points I make, but you can somehow just sneer and pretend that there IS no point.
Who CARES that these two ideologically opposed groups who are each sometimes in control of the legislative process NEVER SEIZE the opportunity to Repeal the others legislation..

That's not Telling to any of you?
What would You do, given such an opportunity?

Can anyone find the balls to even think about it?

Title: Re: Socialism/Communism...
Post by raydawg on 07/12/16 at 14:59:41


4E5157504D4A7B4B7B43515D16240 wrote:
[quote author=2036213C24313C27530 link=1468304591/0#3 date=1468347419]Works for me...



You call that addressing ideas? And you don't understand why I get snotty? Nobody has ever been willing or able to address the points I make, but you can somehow just sneer and pretend that there IS no point.
Who CARES that these two ideologically opposed groups who are each sometimes in control of the legislative process NEVER SEIZE the opportunity to Repeal the others legislation..

That's not Telling to any of you?
What would You do, given such an opportunity?

Can anyone find the balls to even think about it?[/quote]

Can transgendered reply?

Title: Re: Socialism/Communism...
Post by Serowbot on 07/12/16 at 16:27:26

Last night, when I OP'd... I had the idea for giant politichologinickle diatribe on the philosophy of governance...
When I woke today... the urge was gone... :-?

Maybe it was just gas...  ;D

Title: Re: Socialism/Communism...
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/12/16 at 16:53:59

What? Realized that you were about to open yourself up to actually defending your position.

Title: Re: Socialism/Communism...
Post by raydawg on 07/12/16 at 17:05:21


2C3335322F2819291921333F74460 wrote:
What? Realized that you were about to open yourself up to actually defending your position.


Maybe, or, it just smelt different, after it aged........

Title: Re: Socialism/Communism...
Post by Serowbot on 07/12/16 at 22:09:53

Youz guyz iz good at assuming the mental state of a muppet...

I just been a busy recently, and ain't keeping up....

It's also way too hot here...
I needed a bit of exterior home work, this afternoon, and think I got some heat stroke...
My heart was beating it's way out of my chest for a while...
Better now...  ,,, but still not a lot of free time...

Only here for short bursts at the moment...

Argue, or speculate amongst yerselfesies...
I'll kick yer' assessesss soon...   8-)


Title: Re: Socialism/Communism...
Post by raydawg on 07/13/16 at 03:37:14


3325322F37222F34400 wrote:
Youz guyz iz good at assuming the mental state of a muppet...

I just been a busy recently, and ain't keeping up....

It's also way too hot here...
I needed a bit of exterior home work, this afternoon, and think I got some heat stroke...
My heart was beating it's way out of my chest for a while...
Better now...  ,,, but still not a lot of free time...

Only here for short bursts at the moment...

Argue, or speculate amongst yerselfesies...
I'll kick yer' assessesss soon...   8-)


Honestly, don't screw around in that heat Bot, it creeps up on you and can have serious consequences......

Title: Re: Socialism/Communism...
Post by WebsterMark on 07/13/16 at 05:24:21


BTW........ We have determined that this forum leans Right, and votes primarily Conservative, if not Republican...
...but,..on a surprising number of issues... I see liberal thought...

I would agree this table leans to the right, but I would dispute Republican. Other than myself and the rarely seen Jerry, not who else would call themselves a solid Republican.

This table leans more Libertarian if anything. And frankly, the product that brought us all to this table, a low priced, single cylinder motorcycle that is almost always highly modified by it's owners, draws a certain do-it-yourself mentality that unfortunately is not representative of the population as a whole. Let's face it, there are not to many Jogs out there in the real world.

Libertarians bounce all over the place on issues. There's a reason why it will always be a fringe party of a couple %.

I think you need to carefully consider your basic outlook on life and stick to that. When issues come down the pike, you can run those through your filter so to speak and arrive at the right position to take. One side of the coin, liberal or conservative, will appeal to you more often. For example, I said I'm Republican, but I am against the death penalty in all cases. I don't think it's right for an individual or the state to take a life unless in self-defense or war for example. Abortion and capital punishment in my mind are both unnecessary murder. That puts me at odds with Republicans, but I think I'm right about that issue.

This is also why liberal Democrats don't debate their positions particularly well. The deeper you get into an issue with a liberal, the weaker his position becomes. It's why our Sew plays the 'I'm tired of being picked on" card and dodges debates that go on to long.

Title: Re: Socialism/Communism...
Post by pg on 07/13/16 at 14:14:01


033136272031261935263F540 wrote:
BTW........ We have determined that this forum leans Right, and votes primarily Conservative, if not Republican...
...but,..on a surprising number of issues... I see liberal thought...


Bot is not going to like this one.  The way I see it, I'm dead center in the middle.  To the left is totalitarianism, communism, fascism, socialism so on.  To the right of me the less control you have until you reach outright anarchy.  Actually, their is a great deal of merit to this paradigm.  

Best regards,

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