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Message started by justin_o_guy2 on 07/21/16 at 20:09:08

Title: The difference
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/21/16 at 20:09:08

Even her supporters should see


Look at it this way: If Driver A runs a stop sign and hits Driver B's car, causing damages, then Driver A will be held accountable for the reparation of Driver B's damages, provided Driver A is found to have acted without due care (negligently) in the running of the stop sign.
No attorney worth his commission would try to excuse Driver A's negligence by pointing out that he didn’t intend to crash into the other car!
That is exactly the argument being made by Hillary Clinton’s white stocking legal team, however.

She is guilty as she is ugly, and that's a lot.

Title: Re: The difference
Post by raydawg on 07/21/16 at 23:12:50

Jog, it's more than that, it really is.
The selfishness by her should be readily visible to anyone that can look beyond their own partisan beliefs, and glimpse the decay such behavior has on our society.....
Let me use this analogy: a dam fails fails when a small crack allows just a small amount of water to breach it.
More water will utilize that same crack, widening it, allowing even more water to enter through it until it undermines the integrity of the dam and it fails, the damage done.
When people show disregard to the system, opting to their welfare first, you are by your very actions sanctioning others to do the same....

That will never work, never, but ensure failure.

Title: Re: The difference
Post by thumperclone on 07/22/16 at 00:22:28


726D6B6C71764777477F6D612A180 wrote:
Even her supporters should see


Look at it this way: If Driver A runs a stop sign and hits Driver B's car, causing damages, then Driver A will be held accountable for the reparation of Driver B's damages, provided Driver A is found to have acted without due care (negligently) in the running of the stop sign.
No attorney worth his commission would try to excuse Driver A's negligence by pointing out that he didn’t intend to crash into the other car!
That is exactly the argument being made by Hillary Clinton’s white stocking legal team, however.

She is guilty as she is ugly, and that's a lot.


guilty of what?

Title: Re: The difference
Post by Paraquat on 07/22/16 at 06:17:09

I have to go with Ray.
Slippery slope.


--Steve

Title: Re: The difference
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/22/16 at 07:08:43


0C3D2E3D2D293D285C0 wrote:
I have to go with Ray.
Slippery slope.


--Steve


How is it a slippery slope.


.
an idea or course of action which will lead to something unacceptable, wrong, or disastrous.


She is guilty, and the analogy I posted encompasses the defense.

Title: Re: The difference
Post by Serowbot on 07/22/16 at 07:52:28

I saw an attendee interviewed at the convention... He said Hillary ignored over 200 e-mails pleading for help from Benghazi...

You can't argue with that... because it's a lie.

Hillary didn't run a stop sign and kill someone...
She drove with bald tires but never had an accident...

Laura Bush, ran a stop sign and killed someone... :-?

Title: Re: The difference
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/22/16 at 08:02:57

If you had half as much crap wrapped around your mouth as you do your eyes you couldn't say anything.

Title: Re: The difference
Post by Serowbot on 07/22/16 at 08:20:45


“When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”

[ch8213] Socrates

Title: Re: The difference
Post by raydawg on 07/22/16 at 08:29:23


4355425F47525F44300 wrote:
I saw an attendee interviewed at the convention... He said Hillary ignored over 200 e-mails pleading for help from Benghazi...

You can't argue with that... because it's a lie.

Hillary didn't run a stop sign and kill someone...
She drove with bald tires but never had an accident...

Laura Bush, ran a stop sign and killed someone... :-?


Let see hear......
You saw an attendee, taped interview on a TV network, yes, state this "fact", and you use it to paint all republicans?

Yes, I see how that is a fact  ::)

Title: Re: The difference
Post by Serowbot on 07/22/16 at 08:47:38

What I'm saying is,... 33% of Conservatives still believe Obama is a Muslim...
More than 50% still believe Saddam had WMD's...

I don't know what "facts" these people base Hillary's guilt on...
I don't know where this person got the idea, but he was confident enough to say it on national TV...
I don't have the time or patience to listen to all the creaming BS of the Far Right media...
Trump himself was a leader of the "birther" movement... ::)

Believe what you want,... fact is,.. 4 years and 7 million dollars of investigation, turned up diddly... and a Conservative appointed FBI head says there is no crime there...

Screaming "criminal" and "prison", for the next 8 years, is going to get boring...

Title: Re: The difference
Post by Paraquat on 07/22/16 at 09:03:47


2630273A22373A21550 wrote:
Laura Bush, ran a stop sign and killed someone... :-?


You liberals. Anything to blame Bush. (spoken in jest).

The slippery slope, to me, is how the ruling class keeps pulling off these shenanigans. It just keeps getting worse and worse. They don't even try to hide their bribes or corruption or blatant quid pro quo deals. As long as they keep getting away unscathed, it seems they keep pushing the envelope.

How much longer until "some people are more equal than others"?


--Steve

Title: Re: The difference
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/22/16 at 09:05:30

ore than 50% still believe Saddam had WMD's


I Probably know more of them than you and I don't know Any who buy that crap.

They are also a bit skeptical about the economy being so much improved.

Title: Re: The difference
Post by Serowbot on 07/22/16 at 09:06:59

I agree there, Steve... we need to get rid of super PAC's, and paid lobbyists...

Title: Re: The difference
Post by verslagen1 on 07/22/16 at 09:15:49


2234233E26333E25510 wrote:
I saw an attendee interviewed at the convention... He said Hillary ignored over 200 e-mails pleading for help from Benghazi...

You can't argue with that... because it's a lie.

Hillary didn't run a stop sign and kill someone...
She drove with bald tires but never had an accident...

Laura Bush, ran a stop sign and killed someone... :-?



Quote:
(CNSNews.com) – Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton acknowledged to the House Select Committee on Benghazi on Thursday that of the more than 600 security requests related to Libya and Benghazi that came in in 2012 before the Sept. 11, 2012 terrorist attack none ever reached her desk.

However, Blumenthal’s 150 emails reached her desk, Rep. Mike Pompeo (R-Kan.) said.


http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/melanie-hunter/more-600-benghazi-security-requests-never-reached-clintons-desk-reports

Title: Re: The difference
Post by raydawg on 07/22/16 at 10:50:38

I think you answered your own question Bot.
You wonder how, why, people believe, what they do.
You state after all this exhausting investigation, no crime was committed.
That is not what was reported.
Hillary did break the law, she lied, etc, but the FBI declined on issuing their support to proceed a case against her.
Yet, you state this as fact, it seems.
Using your reasonings OJ was indeed innocent  ;D

Title: Re: The difference
Post by raydawg on 07/22/16 at 10:54:53


6375627F67727F64100 wrote:
I agree there, Steve... we need to get rid of super PAC's, and paid lobbyists...


I loved how Soros had a pow-wow in San Francisco with his extremely wealthy cohorts on trying to use their effluence to rid the system of big money opposition.....the irony escapes many  ;D  

Title: Re: The difference
Post by WebsterMark on 07/22/16 at 11:03:22

Sew, Sew, Sew......   I can only hope I live long enough to see the Matt Lauer and Chris Matthews gasping for air like you are in this new reality where a few control the actions of many......

What I'm saying is,... 33% of Conservatives still believe Obama is a Muslim...

-So? You think Trump is a racist. I've got more evidence for Obama being Muslim than you have against Trump being racist.

More than 50% still believe Saddam had WMD's...

-Well, that number should be 100% because he did have WMD's and he killed thousands of his own citizens with them. Don't you remember the photos of woman's bodies with their kids in their arms....

Believe what you want,... fact is,.. 4 years and 7 million dollars of investigation, turned up diddly... and a Conservative appointed FBI head says there is no crime there...

-No, that's a lie. The investigation turned up the existence of the emails in the first place. And he didn't say there was no crime, didn't say that at all. Truth is, he can't say there was or wasn't a crime, that's for a jury to decide.

What he said was, in his opinion, no reasonable prosecutor would pursue this case given the fact that in the past 50 years, only one other case had been pursued under similar circumstances. What he basically did say was Hilary was incompetent, arrogant, careless and frankly, stupid.


Title: Re: The difference
Post by thumperclone on 07/22/16 at 11:21:46


61726A77726474130 wrote:
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Hillary did break the law, she lied


you are wrong sir
there are no facts to support your position

Title: Re: The difference
Post by raydawg on 07/22/16 at 11:32:33


697568706D786F7E717273781D0 wrote:
[quote author=61726A77726474130 link=1469156949/0#14 date=1469209838].

Hillary did break the law, she lied


you are wrong sir
there are no facts to support your position
[/quote]

She sent not received any classified emails....

Look how she updated her replies from nothing wrong, to I did make mistakes, etc....

OJ is innocent right?  ;D

Title: Re: The difference
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/22/16 at 11:46:02

Comey STATED they found sensitive material that she Said she didn't send or receive.
He Also stated that Should someone else be in the Same circumstances, they have no reason to believe that they would Not be prosecuted.

Wanting to know the facts is a must.

Title: Re: The difference
Post by raydawg on 07/22/16 at 11:54:07


594640475A5D6C5C6C54464A01330 wrote:
Comey STATED they found sensitive material that she Said she didn't send or receive.
He Also stated that Should someone else be in the Same circumstances, they have no reason to believe that they would Not be prosecuted.

Wanting to know the facts is a must.


What I am hearing is this, not going after her, has caused more damage than going after her.
If you compare the polls/numbers prior to the FBI release, the numbers were pretty even, for against, appeared to be along party lines. Now, it's like 2 to 1 thinking she unfairly got away with what others would not have, and isn't that perception that has always dogged the Clinton's ?

Title: Re: The difference
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/22/16 at 11:58:58

Perception?

I'm leaning towards Reality..

Title: Re: The difference
Post by raydawg on 07/22/16 at 13:44:58


47585E5944437242724A58541F2D0 wrote:
Perception?

I'm leaning towards Reality..


At this "sound bite" mentality stage of short attention span, same thing amigo  ;D

Title: Re: The difference
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/22/16 at 14:43:55

Hardly.

I have been alive, watching the Clinton crime family.

Airplane, meeting,, and then, she walked..
Accusing me of being lazy and only looking at the surface, after all I've typed on just the schools?

Title: Re: The difference
Post by raydawg on 07/22/16 at 15:38:01


2F3036312C2B1A2A1A22303C77450 wrote:
Hardly.

I have been alive, watching the Clinton crime family.

Airplane, meeting,, and then, she walked..
Accusing me of being lazy and only looking at the surface, after all I've typed on just the schools?


Jog, do you read the whole post and in context?
My referring was to those who think Clinton walks on water, and everyone else is only rocking the boat to cause waves...

Title: Re: The difference
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/22/16 at 17:34:48

I do my best, Ray, but, sometimes it seems like you swap sides a bit, and when you type, it's making sense to You.
I'm guilty, too.

Title: Re: The difference
Post by HovisPresley on 07/22/16 at 17:56:24


516364757263744B67746D060 wrote:
-So? You think Trump is a racist. I've got more evidence for Obama being Muslim than you have against Trump being racist.

-Well, that number should be 100% because he did have WMD's

....................................................
Big lolz  ;D

Title: Re: The difference
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/22/16 at 17:59:14


1F38213E24072532243B322E570 wrote:
[quote author=516364757263744B67746D060 link=1469156949/15#16 date=1469210602]
-So? You think Trump is a racist. I've got more evidence for Obama being Muslim than you have against Trump being racist.

-Well, that number should be 100% because he did have WMD's

....................................................
Big lolz  ;D
[/quote]




-Well, that number should be 100% because he did have WMD's


Who said?

Title: Re: The difference
Post by HovisPresley on 07/22/16 at 18:09:35

Mark

Title: Re: The difference
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/22/16 at 18:24:32

If he did, we sold them to him.. He was not making them.
Bush JOKED about not being able to find them.
People who are still CONvinced that Gadhafi was evil problem don't know what We did to help Saddam get Into power.

The media Lies, it's so obvious..

Title: Re: The difference
Post by WebsterMark on 07/22/16 at 19:25:44


332C2A2D30370636063E2C206B590 wrote:
[quote author=1F38213E24072532243B322E570 link=1469156949/15#26 date=1469235384][quote author=516364757263744B67746D060 link=1469156949/15#16 date=1469210602]
-So? You think Trump is a racist. I've got more evidence for Obama being Muslim than you have against Trump being racist.

-Well, that number should be 100% because he did have WMD's

....................................................
Big lolz  ;D
[/quote]




-Well, that number should be 100% because he did have WMD's


Who said?[/quote]

I think you cut off the answer to your question

Title: Re: The difference
Post by HovisPresley on 07/22/16 at 19:52:09

Sorry, stomach muscles hurting....WMDs? Where?
Or is it 45 minutes before they are found?

Title: Re: The difference
Post by pg on 07/22/16 at 20:01:08


45627B647E5D7F687E6168740D0 wrote:
WMDs? Where?


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/16/world/cia-is-said-to-have-bought-and-destroyed-iraqi-chemical-weapons.html?&_r=1

The extraordinary arms purchase plan, known as Operation Avarice, began in 2005 and continued into 2006, and the American military deemed it a nonproliferation success. It led to the United States’ acquiring and destroying at least 400 Borak rockets, one of the internationally condemned chemical weapons that Saddam Hussein’s Baathist government manufactured in the 1980s but that were not accounted for by United Nations inspections mandated after the 1991 Persian Gulf war.

Also, what would constitute a WMD?  -  a nuclear, radiological, chemical, biological or other weapon that can kill and bring significant harm to a large number of humans or cause great damage to human-made structures (e.g. buildings), natural structures (e.g. mountains), or the biosphere.

Best regards,

Title: Re: The difference
Post by pg on 07/22/16 at 20:06:32


7D4F48595E4F58674B58412A0 wrote:
What I'm saying is,... 33% of Conservatives still believe Obama is a Muslim..


What would make anyone believe to the contrary?

Best regards,

Title: Re: The difference
Post by HovisPresley on 07/22/16 at 20:09:27

"Also, what would constitute a WMD?"

Only really answerable by our governments....

But let's get this straight...Iraq had WMD ?  :o

Forget oil reserves, but WMD ?

Title: Re: The difference
Post by pg on 07/22/16 at 20:23:41


4B6C756A70537166706F667A030 wrote:
Forget oil reserves, but WMD ?


I suspect he had a bit of both; although the decision to invade was made well in advance.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw[/media]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw

Best regards,

Title: Re: The difference
Post by WebsterMark on 07/23/16 at 04:50:16

I would suggest killing a few thousand people quickly by using chemicals weapons a valid definition of WMD.

No, he didn't have stockpiles. I didn't know that was the case at the time, neither did you. But there are a lot of surviving family members of those he gassed who wish he didn't have anything.



Title: Re: The difference
Post by HovisPresley on 07/23/16 at 18:36:22


4C7E79686F7E69567A69701B0 wrote:
I would suggest killing a few thousand people quickly by using chemicals weapons a valid definition of WMD.

...................
Good morning Vietnam!

Title: Re: The difference
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/25/16 at 13:19:38

http://static.infowars.com/politicalsidebarimage/hillary-trump-puppet_large.jpg



That's Another difference.

Title: Re: The difference
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/25/16 at 19:00:45

http://www.rense.com/1.mpicons/ivankahillary575x548.jpg

Actually, I'm quite pleased that Hitlery is Well covered.

Title: Re: The difference
Post by Trippah on 07/25/16 at 19:15:35

Hmm..4 died in a CIA black ops center, military declined to move assets to support the folks in Benghazi....not sure how this is Hilary's fault.  Do you suspect that the whole screw up came, not from the Sate Department but from the never ending struggle for power between The CIA and the DOD.  If you don't think this, I would suggest you missed the boat. ;)

Title: Re: The difference
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/25/16 at 20:00:33

Stephens asked for security Many times.
Not one of those emails made it to HER desk.

Whose fukking email address did he HAVE?

Title: Re: The difference
Post by verslagen1 on 07/26/16 at 08:01:02

They went to her staff, she told her staff not to pass them on.

Why is bengazzi hellery's fault?
The rescue team had plenty of time to get there.
Someone hymned and hawed about whether to go in uniform or street clothes.
They reportedly changed clothes several times.
key indecision at the top cost 4 lives.

Title: Re: The difference
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/26/16 at 08:16:00

If you believe that She was not part of the Ball dropping, okay.
I'm convinced of quite the opposite.
Stephens knew that we were arming the enemy and was not willing to play along, so, they just had to die.


Title: Re: The difference
Post by pg on 07/26/16 at 08:23:10


342730312E2325272C73420 wrote:
key indecision at the top cost 4 lives.


If that was the case why wasn't someone fired or held accountable in some manner?  Then they rubbed salt into the wound when they blamed it on some youtube video that was out for 6 months.

Best regards,

Title: Re: The difference
Post by verslagen1 on 07/26/16 at 08:54:05

she had a stroke remember?
it's not nice to fire someone in the hospital.

Title: Re: The difference
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/26/16 at 11:49:27


7A6D6B6768780A0 wrote:
[quote author=342730312E2325272C73420 link=1469156949/30#42 date=1469545262]
key indecision at the top cost 4 lives.


If that was the case why wasn't someone fired or held accountable in some manner?  Then they rubbed salt into the wound when they blamed it on some youtube video that was out for 6 months.
=
Best regards,
[/quote]


9/11,,,, Biggest bunch of Failures ever. Everyone who Failed was promoted.

Title: Re: The difference
Post by pg on 07/26/16 at 14:43:09


6D7E6968777A7C7E752A1B0 wrote:
she had a stroke remember?
it's not nice to fire someone in the hospital.


That's right, but what was the official diagnosis?  I remember her wearing those awful glasses.

Best regards,

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