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Title: This is a required course? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/27/17 at 22:14:33 “Crossing Identity Boundaries” aims to expand students’ “self-awareness” and help them develop “dialogue skills.” Taking the course, offered through the Department of Educational Studies, is one way students can fulfill the university’s mandatory diversity requirement, and many sections are offered throughout the school year. The course coordinator and instructors involved in teaching the class did not respond to requests from The College Fix seeking comment. Part of the homework includes taking two “implicit bias tests,” and writing journals on prompts such as “power/privilege in your life” or calling on Christians to write about what it might feel like to be Muslim, or males on what it’s like to be female, and “reflecting on how this new identity would have impacted your day.” One big part of the class is a microaggressions group presentation and reflective paper. The assignment, according to a syllabus, calls on students to “find at least 12 examples of microaggressions using at least 3 different types of social media (e.g., Yik Yak, Twitter, Facebook, Tumblr, Pinterest). Explain who the target http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/30923/ |
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Title: Re: This is a required course? Post by piedmontbuckeye on 01/28/17 at 06:41:32 The Lefties will stop at nothing to destroy our culture and America's history! They do it with OUR money! It is time to STOP them! |
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Title: Re: This is a required course? Post by raydawg on 01/28/17 at 08:04:56 At first I thought it would be a good thing, for people to step outside themselves. A prudent thing. To challenge ones "self" is good and leads to greater knowledge..... However, I clicked on your link, only to find it was targeted to "whites" only. So, if I am to understand the rationale behind this, they are to teach us about being prejudice, by being, prejudice..... Sorta like teaching about intolerance, by being, intolerant. Not really sure how that works..... Well maybe, if you adopt indoctrination mentally, it can be effective. However, wouldn't they see how the KKK membership has dwindled to nothing, since they practice similar methods? Here's a question..... Why use guilt? Can we chide fat people, to be skinny? Lazy people, to be productive? Gays, to be straight? WHAT......oh, they already do, you say? How is that working out? |
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Title: Re: This is a required course? Post by oldNslow on 01/28/17 at 09:06:34 Not bad. I just looked at Ohio State's website. Estimated cost of room and board for the 2017 academic year - $21,703 for Ohio residents, $39,963 for non-residents. Estimate doesn't include books or other miscellaneous expenses. Seems like a fair price to have your kid's head filled with bullsh*t like that. ::) |
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Title: Re: This is a required course? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/28/17 at 14:35:09 Something is way wrong about$2,000.00/ month JUST for a roof and three meals a day. College dorms are just a room for two and desks.. The bathroom is down the hall. It's not a hotel. I could make money just housing them.. |
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Title: Re: This is a required course? Post by oldNslow on 01/28/17 at 14:51:11 Quote:
Yeah, that's tuition and room and board. I need to proofread before I hit "post". Doesn't really change my point though. |
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Title: Re: This is a required course? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/28/17 at 18:58:02 Okay, well, that drops it down from absolute insanity to seriously questionable. |
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Title: Re: This is a required course? Post by T And T Garage on 01/30/17 at 08:00:49 Sigh.... so instead of taking the class name and looking it up on OSU's own site, you're taking the word of a self-described "right minded news and commentary site". Oh well. In case anyone is truly interested, here's the the course description from OSU itself - (note, it does not list the required reading - at least I couldn't find it): http://multiculturalcenter.osu.edu/education-and-training/crossing-identity-boundaries-es-hesa-25771/ It actually sounds like a good course. |
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Title: Re: This is a required course? Post by Joer0952 on 01/30/17 at 08:39:28 687679787568736E1C0 wrote:
BAsed on the link you provided it seems like a far left propaganda course to me |
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Title: Re: This is a required course? Post by T And T Garage on 01/30/17 at 08:43:39 7B5E544301080403310 wrote:
BAsed on the link you provided it seems like a far left propaganda course to me[/quote] LOL - yeah... I guess I should have expected that response.... Empathy is a left wing plot I guess... |
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Title: Re: This is a required course? Post by Joer0952 on 01/30/17 at 08:52:20 I have no problem with empathy, but this class seems to be pandering to the victim culture and the false narrative of the far left. Normally, that wouldn't be a problem, hearing everyones beliefs to make your own judgment is a good thing, except that the far left has taken over the university system and has repeatedly tried to censor any opposition to their ideology. For this reason it is indoctrination rather than the presentation of alternate views. |
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Title: Re: This is a required course? Post by T And T Garage on 01/30/17 at 09:07:37 6F4A4057151C1017250 wrote:
"seems to be pandering to the victim culture"? Completely your opinion. Your interpretation is just that. As is mine. There are far too many out there that actually need a class like this. |
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Title: Re: This is a required course? Post by Joer0952 on 01/30/17 at 09:21:40 796768696479627F0D0 wrote:
"seems to be pandering to the victim culture"? Completely your opinion. Your interpretation is just that. As is mine. There are far too many out there that actually need a class like this. [/quote] Yes, having not sat in on the class it is a educated interpretation based on the wording and the Left buzz word language used in the description. But seriously, are you really going to argue that it may not be a left narrative course, what do you think the likelihood of that is? I would say it is close enough to 0 to just round down to 0. |
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Title: Re: This is a required course? Post by T And T Garage on 01/30/17 at 09:30:59 684D4750121B1710220 wrote:
"seems to be pandering to the victim culture"? Completely your opinion. Your interpretation is just that. As is mine. There are far too many out there that actually need a class like this. [/quote] Yes, having not sat in on the class it is a educated interpretation based on the wording and the Left buzz word language used in the description. But seriously, are you really going to argue that it may not be a left narrative course, what do you think the likelihood of that is? I would say it is close enough to 0 to just round down to 0. [/quote] OK, I'll bite. Exactly what is wrong with this course? How would it be different if it were right? Is it even necessary in a right world? Think about this - it may actually teach those "terrible liberals" to be more accepting of right views.... how about that? |
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Title: Re: This is a required course? Post by Joer0952 on 01/30/17 at 09:40:32 I dont think your understanding my point, the problem isn't the class itself ,even though I would probably not agree with most of it, it is that it is the only views given. We don't know what the right course would be because it is not offered. When you only give one side it is for the purpose of indoctrination not for an open debate. |
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Title: Re: This is a required course? Post by T And T Garage on 01/30/17 at 09:50:11 0A2F253270797572400 wrote:
You seem to miss the point of the class as described. It's actually EXACTLY what you seem to think is lacking - a two sided view: At the conclusion of the course, students will be able to: -Identify micro-aggressions within their daily lives and within society as a whole. -Define power, privilege, value systems and difference and be able to identify their different forms. -Recognize the commonalities and differences that exist among people and cultures and how these factors influence their relationship with others. -Demonstrate a personal ethic geared towards civic responsibility. -Identify ways in which they can challenge or address systems of power and privilege. -Demonstrate an appreciation for other points of view and other cultures. -Recognize the influence of culture on communication and be willing to address any difference of one's own culture and communication style. -Use observation, conflict management, dialogue, and active listening as a means of understanding and engaging with others. -Discuss how they will be socially just global citizenship as part of their lifelong learning. |
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Title: Re: This is a required course? Post by raydawg on 01/30/17 at 10:13:43 Think of it this way...... If the left had put themselves in the deplorable shoes, they might have won...... Instead of now, like last week the democrats had a lesson in how to talk with people who hold a different perspective and belief. Or a need for safe speak in campuse ;D |
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Title: Re: This is a required course? Post by T And T Garage on 01/30/17 at 10:20:30 37243C21243222450 wrote:
Technically, the left did win - by nearly 3 million votes.... But then, hillary deserved to lose - her campaign stunk. She was way overconfident - just like the dnc. But that's not the point, is it? The point of this thread is this class and how "terrible" it is or isn't. There's been no answer how a right leaning class would be better, or even necessary. There's no proof that this is a left-leaning class in and of itself. This is all your interpretation. You have yours, I have mine. |
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Title: Re: This is a required course? Post by raydawg on 01/30/17 at 12:37:40 504E41404D504B56240 wrote:
Technically, the left did win - by nearly 3 million votes.... But then, hillary deserved to lose - her campaign stunk. She was way overconfident - just like the dnc. But that's not the point, is it? The point of this thread is this class and how "terrible" it is or isn't. There's been no answer how a right leaning class would be better, or even necessary. There's no proof that this is a left-leaning class in and of itself. This is all your interpretation. You have yours, I have mine. [/quote] You sure like grasping...... Must be a size issue ;D Hillary LOST. The rules were the same before. The horse is dead, and won't carry you, try walking. To teach others using what, guilt, or.... Really works, that's is so obvious eh. If ya wanna teach tolerance, I suggest using tolerance, would be a good place to start. You wanna teach victimization, be a victim. You wanna teach success, show how to overcome. |
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Title: Re: This is a required course? Post by Joer0952 on 01/30/17 at 12:46:50 3F212E2F223F24394B0 wrote:
You seem to miss the point of the class as described. It's actually EXACTLY what you seem to think is lacking - a two sided view: At the conclusion of the course, students will be able to: -Identify micro-aggressions within their daily lives and within society as a whole. -Define power, privilege, value systems and difference and be able to identify their different forms. -Recognize the commonalities and differences that exist among people and cultures and how these factors influence their relationship with others. -Demonstrate a personal ethic geared towards civic responsibility. -Identify ways in which they can challenge or address systems of power and privilege. -Demonstrate an appreciation for other points of view and other cultures. -Recognize the influence of culture on communication and be willing to address any difference of one's own culture and communication style. -Use observation, conflict management, dialogue, and active listening as a means of understanding and engaging with others. -Discuss how they will be socially just global citizenship as part of their lifelong learning.[/quote] I am not sure how you see that as a 2 sided view. If you are interpreting "other points of view" as including the rights point of view I think thats a misinterpretation. I think, based on every other bullet point, they are talking about the "privileged" understanding the point of view of the "marginalized" |
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Title: Re: This is a required course? Post by T And T Garage on 01/30/17 at 13:07:39 67746C71746272150 wrote:
Technically, the left did win - by nearly 3 million votes.... But then, hillary deserved to lose - her campaign stunk. She was way overconfident - just like the dnc. But that's not the point, is it? The point of this thread is this class and how "terrible" it is or isn't. There's been no answer how a right leaning class would be better, or even necessary. There's no proof that this is a left-leaning class in and of itself. This is all your interpretation. You have yours, I have mine. [/quote] You sure like grasping...... Must be a size issue ;D Hillary LOST. The rules were the same before. The horse is dead, and won't carry you, try walking. To teach others using what, guilt, or.... Really works, that's is so obvious eh. If ya wanna teach tolerance, I suggest using tolerance, would be a good place to start. You wanna teach victimization, be a victim. You wanna teach success, show how to overcome. [/quote] Wow - you sure use a lot of words to say nothing! LOL |
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Title: Re: This is a required course? Post by T And T Garage on 01/30/17 at 13:14:40 193C3621636A6661530 wrote:
You seem to miss the point of the class as described. It's actually EXACTLY what you seem to think is lacking - a two sided view: At the conclusion of the course, students will be able to: -Identify micro-aggressions within their daily lives and within society as a whole. -Define power, privilege, value systems and difference and be able to identify their different forms. -Recognize the commonalities and differences that exist among people and cultures and how these factors influence their relationship with others. -Demonstrate a personal ethic geared towards civic responsibility. -Identify ways in which they can challenge or address systems of power and privilege. -Demonstrate an appreciation for other points of view and other cultures. -Recognize the influence of culture on communication and be willing to address any difference of one's own culture and communication style. -Use observation, conflict management, dialogue, and active listening as a means of understanding and engaging with others. -Discuss how they will be socially just global citizenship as part of their lifelong learning.[/quote] I am not sure how you see that as a 2 sided view. If you are interpreting "other points of view" as including the rights point of view I think thats a misinterpretation. I think, based on every other bullet point, they are talking about the "privileged" understanding the point of view of the "marginalized"[/quote] I consider "other points of view" just that - someone other than me.... I don't look at someone and label them right or left. If you honestly base everything/everyone on a partisan point of view, you're lost. Your interpretation is just that - an interpretation. |
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Title: Re: This is a required course? Post by Joer0952 on 01/30/17 at 14:01:36 Are you denying that Academia has a far left agenda? |
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Title: Re: This is a required course? Post by T And T Garage on 01/30/17 at 14:11:27 785D5740020B0700320 wrote:
I identify as more liberal than conservative - obviously. I honestly don't care what one school does as opposed to another. I've sent 3 kids through college (all to the same liberal arts school) - 2 of them are far more conservative that the other. No big deal. If you feel that they're liberal, then don't send your kids there. Get over the conspiracy. But you may want to ask yourself this - why is the country center-left as opposed to center-right? Regardless of the electoral results, the left won the popular vote. That does say something. |
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Title: Re: This is a required course? Post by justin_o_guy2 on 01/30/17 at 15:00:33 But you may want to ask yourself this - why is the country center-left as opposed to center-right? Seeing the majority as left leaning doesn't make left leaning correct. It just means that the perpetual onslaught of PC above common sense has taken its toll on the People. Our schools are indoctrination centers. Dodgeball is outlawed. Say gun, go to jail. Mommy and daddy, verboten, |
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Title: Re: This is a required course? Post by Joer0952 on 01/30/17 at 15:07:58 I will admit that the left has done a far better job at taking over the media and academia in recent times, but over history the political views and support of the center has ebbed and flowed with current events. You nor I have no way of knowing for sure what the future holds. And then of course there is what Justin has already stated. |
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Title: Re: This is a required course? Post by T And T Garage on 01/30/17 at 15:17:43 Well fellas, if the right is so right, then why have they been unable to move the country in the last 6 years? In the last 20 years? If you don't like the direction of the schools, get involved. I do (even now that my kids are grown) & I love dodge ball and think it should be included in gym. |
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Title: Re: This is a required course? Post by Joer0952 on 01/30/17 at 15:26:40 352B242528352E33410 wrote:
justin already answered this question |
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