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Message started by raydawg on 02/03/17 at 10:27:49

Title: Do you think that.....
Post by raydawg on 02/03/17 at 10:27:49

If Trump would have won the popular vote, and Hillary the electorate college, she would say she isn't the elected president?

We know Trump would be calling foul, that is a given....
Would the left still honor their current argument?

Title: Re: Do you think that.....
Post by MnSpring on 02/03/17 at 10:50:07

Of Course Not !

Baseball:   “Hey  Our Team had more,  ‘Hits’.
 You only had more, ‘Runs’.  So  we won.”


And if a  team did that,  they would be called  ……. ?

Title: Re: Do you think that.....
Post by Serowbot on 02/03/17 at 10:52:20

What is the "Left " argument?..

Trump won,... but not by a majority.
Given that,.. he should not govern as though he had a landslide win or a mandate.
Some respect is due to the majority.

He's a bull in a china shop... and that's our china.

Title: Re: Do you think that.....
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 02/03/17 at 12:28:37

That's funny..

Title: Re: Do you think that.....
Post by raydawg on 02/03/17 at 13:15:41


6D7B6C71697C716A1E0 wrote:
What is the "Left " argument?..

Trump won,... but not by a majority.
Given that,.. he should not govern as though he had a landslide win or a mandate.
Some respect is due to the majority.

He's a bull in a china shop... and that's our china.


Ok, I see that, do you feel the same way with Obama writing all his executive orders, etc?
Do you think the deplorable feel the same way?
And do you believe the DNC would include these folks if Trump would have received more votes?
Remember Obama saying elections have consequences when he dismissed those who wanted a more effective input...

Title: Re: Do you think that.....
Post by MnSpring on 02/03/17 at 13:58:20


485E49544C59544F3B0 wrote:
What is the "Left " argument?...

Thinking a answer to, 'the  argument’,  could be,
  “Suck it UP”.

Baseball again:   One team, gets  3, ‘Hits’  every Inning.  Every person, gets on 1st, safely, but is thrown out on 2nd.  The Other team, gets  ONE  Hit, which that person get’s safely across Home Plate.   Score 1 - 0.    Yet did the, other team play better ball?   (After all they got, 27, hits ?)
But the rules of the game are, ‘Runs’, not, ‘hits’.   (So, change the Rules ?)
Football: One team, runs down the field  EVERY  Possession, yet fail to get in the end zone.  That  teams numbers, on Possession time and Yards gained, are   HUDGE.   Yet the other team get’s ONE   touchdown.   (Change the Rules ?)

In the case of this election,  (and others).
Couple of questions,  (Which, proven truthful answers,  are Un-Determined at this point)
Did the people who,  ‘Pay’,  or did the people that, ‘get’,  
        make the, ‘popular’, Vote?
Did,  ‘Citizens’,    Vote for HRC, or Trump ?

Upon, evidence, of which areas, States, and demographics,  and the lack of, requirement of, ‘Proof’, of  Citizenship, in those areas,  and the outgoing POTUS saying, (in effect),  ’non citizens will not be penalized for voting’.

It seems,  the,  ‘Citizens’, voted for Trump.

Their is,  (Yet),  no   Proof,  (one way or the other).  So depending on which, ’team’ one is on.
The argument, will be, ’one way or the other’.  

Change the Rules,  or Play a better game ?
Let Team members play the game, (team members = Citizens)

Or let anyone  just jump out of the stands and ‘hit’.  ?

Oh,  a,  ‘Wall’ ?

http://talk.baltimoresun.com/topic/171415-jan-brewer-responds-to-phoenix-suns-owner/
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=143_1290923704
http://www.espn.com/espn/commentary/news/story?page=brewer/100505
https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/28/2888267_arizona-gov-vs-phoenix-suns-owner-you-go-jan-brewer-.html
http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2012/03/arizona-governor-jan-brewer-vs-phoenix.html
https://thebsreport.wordpress.com/2010/08/02/email-of-the-day-governor-jan-brewers-response-to-phoenix-suns-owner-robert-sarver/
http://tomohalloran.com/2013/05/21/gov-jan-brewer-vs-the-phoenix-suns-owner/
http://www.pineforestjewelry.com/articles/arizona-governor-jan-brewer-vs-the-phoenix-suns-owner-robert-sarver
http://www.datehookup.com/thread-1115129.htm
  Etc    Etc     Etc     …

Title: Re: Do you think that.....
Post by Trippah on 02/03/17 at 14:09:51

Two piles of poo, which one to choose.

Title: Re: Do you think that.....
Post by raydawg on 02/03/17 at 14:40:17


66405B4242535A320 wrote:
Two piles of poo, which one to choose.


Yes, given the system, how many times have we heard the lessor of two evils?
It's rigged so the power can hold sway over one, or the other.

However, if stop and think beyond the results, we can see a pattern.
Folks are getting tired of the same old crap, played, and the spoils divided between two.
I go back to Ross Perot, this was a foretelling of howfolks felt.
We had the Tea Party, and we had an unknown Obama beat Hillary 8 years ago.
Go back and look at Obama stumping, he was a populist, much like Trump, that he wasn't part of the entrenched.

The RNC did not want Trump, the DNC did, they thought him the easiest to beat.
So, as Obama wasn't a real part of the Party structure, neither was Trump....
And the sick and tired elected both.

I see a 3rd party, maybe more, if we can break up this monopoly, we can turn the power back to folk...

So, one poop is poop, the other, tho stinks like chit, smells like a rose because it's a sign of change......

We'll see, but removing the power structure away from the fed is the first step to real governing, as it should be...

Title: Re: Do you think that.....
Post by MnSpring on 02/03/17 at 16:24:24


486E756C6C7D741C0 wrote:
Two piles of poo, which one to choose.


It’s  a,  “Drive  By   Comment”.

Could be said about, anything,  (depending on what Team you are on)

You,  HAVE  to look,  deeper.
You Have to find out ‘what is what’, yourself !
No longer can one rely on,  ‘news’, because their is NOT, any ‘news’.
It is,  ‘spun’, to one POV or the Other.

“YOU-Tub”,  is a Cesspool of the Internet.
      90%,  total  Crap, and perhaps 10%  knowledge.

Then their is the, ‘ back treading’, which in many cases viewed as bad.
    (From Both Sides)

If one person said, (years ago): “I am For that”
Then today says: ‘I am against that”
Is that,  ‘learning’,  or   ’Spin’ ?

If someone says:   “Let me re-think that position”.
 Is that, ‘Learning’, or, ’Spin’. ?

Just looking at the people that debate on this little forum,
(Like a grain of sand on the beach)
Divide them into, R/L, people/groups.
The groups, will STILL,  disagree, on the minutia,
of, ‘what to do exactly’.

The  Point is.   Trump, is the POTUS.
Like it or not.   Get on the Buss or stand in the Street and CRY.

By All Means,   STILL,   contact him, ( and your elected official/s), and express your views.
Do a  ‘protest’, Peacefully, (not Steel, Burn  Loot, etc etc. etc)
Which makes that protest look like ALL FOOLS.
And, make  SURE, the people,  protesting’,  KNOW,  what they are  Protesting,
 (Not doing so,  regardless of how peaceful)   STILL  makes them  ALL  LOOK LIKE  FOOLS.

But do NOT, spend your time,
Standing in the Street,  Obstructing  Traffic.

Title: Re: Do you think that.....
Post by Trippah on 02/03/17 at 16:29:44

I must say, it would be interesting if we start evolving to a system more like the Brits, with a variety of parties.  Don't know if it works any better than the "two party" system presently entrenched.

Title: Re: Do you think that.....
Post by raydawg on 02/03/17 at 16:55:56


597F647D7D6C650D0 wrote:
I must say, it would be interesting if we start evolving to a system more like the Brits, with a variety of parties.  Don't know if it works any better than the "two party" system presently entrenched.


No where in the founding documents does it suggest only 2 parties....

Title: Re: Do you think that.....
Post by MnSpring on 02/03/17 at 17:05:46

To many ‘parties’, or POV’s,
May hurt,  allowing so much ‘diversion’, and Dissecting little  tiny points,
that 2 parties, may still rise to the top.

Perhaps it is better to have a  strong, 3rd party.
Which, while, ALL  IN  That  Party, will have a difference of small points.
They,  ‘agree to disagree’.  (On the small stuff)

But with a  solid,  ‘Platform’,  To change,  the 2 party system.
( A  Platform,  which  the Majority of the  Citizens, believe in)
It could be done on a  Nat  Level.  
And I Believe, in 2 years, will be the time to, ’start’, (if needed),
and 4 years, the time to, finish.

If  Trump,  is successful, (and I will BACK HIM),
And if he goes to a  3rd party.
I believe the,  CITIZENS, will Vote for that,  Person,
Not the Party.  
For what was  DONE,  not what, ‘could’, be done.

Title: Re: Do you think that.....
Post by MnSpring on 02/03/17 at 17:12:02

H. Ross Perot,   Started something.
Remember,
‘Rome was not built in a day”
And the Earth was Not created in 7 days”
    (as, ‘ we’,  know a ‘day’ is 24 hours, and we know, 24 hours is a sunrise and a sunset)

Title: Re: Do you think that.....
Post by MnSpring on 02/03/17 at 18:40:43

Can hear it now,
the,  “Underwear in a Bunch Crowd”.
  “You said this,  you said  that”.

Well,  80 %  of  HRC  was   TOTAL   LIES.
20% of  Trump was  Total Lies.

So  Guess which one I am Behind !

Get on the Bus,
or stand in the street,  (Obstructing Traffic),  and  CRY !



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